On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:42 -0400, Raghavendra Prabhu <rrprabhu@...>
wrote:
> Dear Xfce users,
>
> I want to run a single standalone application in XFCE in a full screen
mode
> When XFCE loads up, everything other than the application needs to be
> disabled. I am currently using XFCE 4.4
>
> What would be the configuration i should use to enable this?
>
> Prabhu
Forgive me for answering your question with a question, but wouldn't it be
more sensible to run somethin lighter in your situation? If you are going
for something close to a kiosk mode, wouldn't something like Openbox be
more practical since it uses considerably less resources?
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:42 -0400, Raghavendra Prabhu <rrprabhu@...>
> wrote:
> > Dear Xfce users,
> >
> > I want to run a single standalone application in XFCE in a full screen
> mode
> > When XFCE loads up, everything other than the application needs to be
> > disabled. I am currently using XFCE 4.4
> >
> > What would be the configuration i should use to enable this?
> >
> > Prabhu
>
> Forgive me for answering your question with a question, but wouldn't it be
> more sensible to run somethin lighter in your situation? If you are going
> for something close to a kiosk mode, wouldn't something like Openbox be
> more practical since it uses considerably less resources?
>
> Yours,
> Morten
Or even better, why not make Xorg load directly this application? After all,
why use a window manager when you do not want any windows at all?
If xorg.conf were to directly start an application , would there be any constraints. I was planning to develop a Java Awt application which would embed workflows in it and other embedded applications which are available such as embedded open office.
Would this application require a minimum windows manager and so on?
Prabhu
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Thiago Varela <thiagodrv@...> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:42 -0400, Raghavendra Prabhu <rrprabhu@...>
> wrote:
> > Dear Xfce users,
> >
> > I want to run a single standalone application in XFCE in a full screen
> mode
> > When XFCE loads up, everything other than the application needs to be
> > disabled. I am currently using XFCE 4.4
> >
> > What would be the configuration i should use to enable this?
> >
> > Prabhu
>
> Forgive me for answering your question with a question, but wouldn't it be
> more sensible to run somethin lighter in your situation? If you are going
> for something close to a kiosk mode, wouldn't something like Openbox be
> more practical since it uses considerably less resources?
>
> Yours,
> Morten
Or even better, why not make Xorg load directly this application? After all,
why use a window manager when you do not want any windows at all?
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér wrote:
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:42 -0400, Raghavendra Prabhu <rrprabhu@...>
> wrote:
>> Dear Xfce users,
>>
>> I want to run a single standalone application in XFCE in a full screen
> mode
>> When XFCE loads up, everything other than the application needs to be
>> disabled. I am currently using XFCE 4.4
>>
>> What would be the configuration i should use to enable this?
>>
>> Prabhu
>
> Forgive me for answering your question with a question, but wouldn't it be
> more sensible to run somethin lighter in your situation? If you are going
> for something close to a kiosk mode, wouldn't something like Openbox be
> more practical since it uses considerably less resources?
> On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:13:48 -0700
> Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér <morten@...> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:42 -0400, Raghavendra Prabhu <rrprabhu@...>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear Xfce users,
>> >
>> > I want to run a single standalone application in XFCE in a full screen
>> mode
>> > When XFCE loads up, everything other than the application needs to be
>> > disabled. I am currently using XFCE 4.4
>> >
>> > What would be the configuration i should use to enable this?
>> >
>> > Prabhu
>>
>> Forgive me for answering your question with a question, but wouldn't it be
>> more sensible to run somethin lighter in your situation? If you are going
>> for something close to a kiosk mode, wouldn't something like Openbox be
>> more practical since it uses considerably less resources?
>>
>> Yours,
>> Morten
>
> Or even better, why not make Xorg load directly this application? After all,
> why use a window manager when you do not want any windows at all?
I actually tried that once, it didn't work out as well as it sounds.
There needs to be some sort of window management, otherwise widgets and
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On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT)
"Arthur H. Johnson II" <arthur.johnson@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Thiago Varela wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:13:48 -0700
> > Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér <morten@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:42 -0400, Raghavendra Prabhu <rrprabhu@...>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dear Xfce users,
> >> >
> >> > I want to run a single standalone application in XFCE in a full screen
> >> mode
> >> > When XFCE loads up, everything other than the application needs to be
> >> > disabled. I am currently using XFCE 4.4
> >> >
> >> > What would be the configuration i should use to enable this?
> >> >
> >> > Prabhu
> >>
> >> Forgive me for answering your question with a question, but wouldn't it be
> >> more sensible to run somethin lighter in your situation? If you are going
> >> for something close to a kiosk mode, wouldn't something like Openbox be
> >> more practical since it uses considerably less resources?
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >> Morten
> >
> > Or even better, why not make Xorg load directly this application? After all,
> > why use a window manager when you do not want any windows at all?
>
> I actually tried that once, it didn't work out as well as it sounds.
> There needs to be some sort of window management, otherwise widgets and
> popups won't work correct.
Well, that's what I tried to implicitly state before: you don't need a window
manager if you do not want any windows at all.
But if you need any sort of popups or widgets, then you DO want windows,
therefore needing some way to do the window management, aka a window manager.
That is pretty helpful. I will try to assess my application requirements and do it accordingly
Prabhu
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Thiago Varela <thiagodrv@...> wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT)
"Arthur H. Johnson II" <arthur.johnson@...> wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Thiago Varela wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 11:13:48 -0700
> > Morten Juhl-Johansen Zölde-Fejér <morten@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 00:14:42 -0400, Raghavendra Prabhu <rrprabhu@...>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Dear Xfce users,
> >> >
> >> > I want to run a single standalone application in XFCE in a full screen
> >> mode
> >> > When XFCE loads up, everything other than the application needs to be
> >> > disabled. I am currently using XFCE 4.4
> >> >
> >> > What would be the configuration i should use to enable this?
> >> >
> >> > Prabhu
> >>
> >> Forgive me for answering your question with a question, but wouldn't it be
> >> more sensible to run somethin lighter in your situation? If you are going
> >> for something close to a kiosk mode, wouldn't something like Openbox be
> >> more practical since it uses considerably less resources?
> >>
> >> Yours,
> >> Morten
> >
> > Or even better, why not make Xorg load directly this application? After all,
> > why use a window manager when you do not want any windows at all?
>
> I actually tried that once, it didn't work out as well as it sounds.
> There needs to be some sort of window management, otherwise widgets and
> popups won't work correct.
Well, that's what I tried to implicitly state before: you don't need a window
manager if you do not want any windows at all.
But if you need any sort of popups or widgets, then you DO want windows,
therefore needing some way to do the window management, aka a window manager.
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT)
> "Arthur H. Johnson II" <arthur.johnson@...> wrote:
>>> Or even better, why not make Xorg load directly this application? After all,
>>> why use a window manager when you do not want any windows at all?
>> I actually tried that once, it didn't work out as well as it sounds.
>> There needs to be some sort of window management, otherwise widgets and
>> popups won't work correct.
>
> Well, that's what I tried to implicitly state before: you don't need a window
> manager if you do not want any windows at all.
> But if you need any sort of popups or widgets, then you DO want windows,
> therefore needing some way to do the window management, aka a window manager.
>
start xfwm4 (nothing else) and your application only. make sure that
popup windows are raised to the foreground. should be all you need.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Auke Kok<auke@...> wrote:
> Thiago Varela wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT)
>> "Arthur H. Johnson II" <arthur.johnson@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Or even better, why not make Xorg load directly this application? After
>>>> all,
>>>> why use a window manager when you do not want any windows at all?
>>>
>>> I actually tried that once, it didn't work out as well as it sounds.
>>> There needs to be some sort of window management, otherwise widgets and
>>> popups won't work correct.
>>
>> Well, that's what I tried to implicitly state before: you don't need a
>> window
>> manager if you do not want any windows at all.
>> But if you need any sort of popups or widgets, then you DO want windows,
>> therefore needing some way to do the window management, aka a window
>> manager.
>>
>
>
> start xfwm4 (nothing else) and your application only. make sure that popup
> windows are raised to the foreground. should be all you need.
>
> Auke
>
A problem with that setup may be that minimized windows just
disappear. A solution might be to also run xfdesktop and use the
setting to show minimized windows as icons.
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Auke Kok<auke@...> wrote:
>> Thiago Varela wrote:
>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT)
>>> Well, that's what I tried to implicitly state before: you don't need a
>>> window
>>> manager if you do not want any windows at all.
>>> But if you need any sort of popups or widgets, then you DO want windows,
>>> therefore needing some way to do the window management, aka a window
>>> manager.
>>
>> start xfwm4 (nothing else) and your application only. make sure that popup
>> windows are raised to the foreground. should be all you need.
>>
>
> A problem with that setup may be that minimized windows just
> disappear. A solution might be to also run xfdesktop and use the
> setting to show minimized windows as icons.
I think xfwm4 still allows you to alt-tab to them anyway....
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Auke Kok<auke@...> wrote:
> Alexander Toresson wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Auke Kok<auke@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thiago Varela wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> Well, that's what I tried to implicitly state before: you don't need a
>>>> window
>>>> manager if you do not want any windows at all.
>>>> But if you need any sort of popups or widgets, then you DO want windows,
>>>> therefore needing some way to do the window management, aka a window
>>>> manager.
>>>
>>> start xfwm4 (nothing else) and your application only. make sure that
>>> popup
>>> windows are raised to the foreground. should be all you need.
>>>
>>
>> A problem with that setup may be that minimized windows just
>> disappear. A solution might be to also run xfdesktop and use the
>> setting to show minimized windows as icons.
>
> I think xfwm4 still allows you to alt-tab to them anyway....
>
> Auke
Yes, of course. But it may not be straight-forward that you can bring
back the window with alt-tab, if 'normal' users are supposed to use
it.
I had xfwm4 + xftaskbar4 + idesk running on a old box for my parents
to use (while their computer was broken), and I remember finding a
second firefox started, even tho the old one was just minimized :)
I'm trying to say that if the computer is supposed to always be
running one window in fullscreen, it might be an idea to have a setup
that disables minimizing, if a minimized window will be invisible.
Oh, and I had forgotten, xfwm4 can do that -- just remove the minimize
button -- and disable any key shortcut.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Auke Kok<auke@...> wrote:
> Alexander Toresson wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Auke Kok<auke@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thiago Varela wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:02:03 -0400 (EDT)
>>>> Well, that's what I tried to implicitly state before: you don't need a
>>>> window
>>>> manager if you do not want any windows at all.
>>>> But if you need any sort of popups or widgets, then you DO want windows,
>>>> therefore needing some way to do the window management, aka a window
>>>> manager.
>>>
>>> start xfwm4 (nothing else) and your application only. make sure that
>>> popup
>>> windows are raised to the foreground. should be all you need.
>>>
>>
>> A problem with that setup may be that minimized windows just
>> disappear. A solution might be to also run xfdesktop and use the
>> setting to show minimized windows as icons.
>
> I think xfwm4 still allows you to alt-tab to them anyway....
>
> Auke
Yes, of course. But it may not be straight-forward that you can bring
back the window with alt-tab, if 'normal' users are supposed to use
it.
I had xfwm4 + xftaskbar4 + idesk running on a old box for my parents
to use (while their computer was broken), and I remember finding a
second firefox started, even tho the old one was just minimized :)
I'm trying to say that if the computer is supposed to always be
running one window in fullscreen, it might be an idea to have a setup
that disables minimizing, if a minimized window will be invisible.
Oh, and I had forgotten, xfwm4 can do that -- just remove the minimize
button -- and disable any key shortcut.
Raghavendra Prabhu wrote:
> That was pretty helpful.
> How do i prevent right click on the desktop and create new folders and
> settings. I want to disable it
first you learn to top-quote/bottom-post, thanks
> I enabled XFCE to manage the desktop but the option was still available.
xfdesktop needs to be running. you can set it to display minimized
applications instead of file objects with the settings manager.
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