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Best realtime audio dstro for EeeHi y'all, I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my Eee. I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). AFAIK, options include: DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 Eeebuntu http://www.eeebuntu.org/ Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with that. Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. TIA Norv Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeOn Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
Norval Watson <norv2001@...> wrote: > > Hi y'all, > I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. > I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my Eee. > I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). > AFAIK, options include: > DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC > ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 > Eeebuntu http://www.eeebuntu.org/ > Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) > > I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with that. > Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. > TIA > Norv Hi, I like Debian the best and have great results with realtime on my eee-pc 901. You might like to enter my thread "Pianoteq on Linux netbook" on http://www.forum-pianoteq.com, where I described a few tunings I've made. Because I was too lazy to build my own RT-kernel, I installed the kernel from AV-Linux (which seems to be a very good distro btw): http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux2/linux-image-2.6.29-rt1-rt_2.6.29-rt1-rt-10.00.Custom_i386.deb I can play the physical modeled pianos with latencies of 2,9ms at 44,1 kHz for example. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeWe do not charge for open source portions of Indamixx.
We do charge a small fee for building our distro but most of the charge is for 1) energy XT2 2) ArdourXchange 3) Support If you add all that up the a la carte value is greater than $149.00 (approx. $229.00) Our target is $99.00 but not right now. Thank you Ronald Stewart Creative Director Trinity Audio Group Inc. 9854 National Blvd. #322 Los Angeles CA 90034 310-733-9285 ronaldjstewart@... On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Norval Watson <norv2001@...> wrote:
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeI'm runnning my audio laptop on gentoo using alot from the pro-audio overlay. couldn't imagine another route.
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Norval Watson <norv2001@...> wrote:
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeOn Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 03:43:45PM -0700, munkeyfreenix batcat wrote:
> I'm runnning my audio laptop on gentoo using alot from the pro-audio > overlay. couldn't imagine another route. the archaudio repo probably has binaries, but i havent checked. havent got my head around archs' building stuff tbh.. since compiling (or even running firefox) is pure hell on the Atom N270. i cant imagine theyd be useful for audio given their 1/8th the power of stateoftheart CPUs unless yo just want an instance of ZynAdd or something _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for Eeeyeah, compiling can drag on slower machines, but during the gentoo install (or whenever) you can alter your optimization flags for speed or size and what not.
the reason i prefer the pain of compiling everything from source is that portage gives you full control of conditional compiling through use flags in a framework like apt. its more involved, but you don't have to dig through make files, just run emerge -pv <package atom> and see what you can exclude and what you want to include. so long as you don't miss something incredibly important, it makes things run smoothly (or if you botch it, not at all). not the most scientific metric, but on this dell inspiron e1505 (intel core duo 2Gz each processor, 100Gig ram) running XP, fruity loops by itself on a clean boot could choke it up if i added 3 vst synths and some intensive effects. on gentoo, i've ran the jack server with maybe 6-9 other apps at a time for hours while compiling and trying new programs and at one point i recompiled my kernel. after 3 hours not even an xrun. if compiling is still an issue though, you can create a tool chain with the crossdev package to compile for that architecture on a different gentoo machine that can deal with it. then once you've produced the binaries you can load the customized app onto the target machine. given that most folks don't have another gentoo machine (having one can be trouble enough), i don't think it would be unthinkable that some sort of community crossdev server could be created where packages could be emerged and downloaded from at later times. it would definitely add to the audio distro community as well, because then packages that worked well could be shared without recompiling again. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:26 PM, carmen <_@whats-your.name> wrote:
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeHi -
I've had success with Eeebuntu on my 701, and I like the distro a lot. The "array kernel" for Eee can be rt-patched and compiled, and has been working fine for me except that sometimes having the wifi on can cause xruns. (I'm not sure if that's a limitation or just my own fault for not configuring it perfectly.) Dan 2009/6/30, Norval Watson <norv2001@...>: > > Hi y'all, > I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. > I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my Eee. > I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). > AFAIK, options include: > DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC > ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 > Eeebuntu http://www.eeebuntu.org/ > Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) > > I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with that. > Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. > TIA > Norv > > > Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now.http://us.lrd.yahoo.com/_ylc=X3oDMTJxN2x2ZmNpBF9zAzIwMjM2MTY2MTMEdG1fZG1lY2gDVGV4dCBMaW5rBHRtX2xuawNVMTEwMzk3NwR0bV9uZXQDWWFob28hBHRtX3BvcwN0YWdsaW5lBHRtX3BwdHkDYXVueg--/SIG=14600t3ni/**http%3A//au.rd.yahoo.com/mail/tagline/creativeholidays/*http%3A//au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/%3Fp1=other%26p2=au%26p3=mailtagline > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@... > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > -- http://www.mcld.co.uk _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for Eee2009/6/30 Norval Watson <norv2001@...>:
> > Hi y'all, > I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. > I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my Eee. > I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). > AFAIK, options include: > DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC > ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 > Eeebuntu http://www.eeebuntu.org/ > Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) > > I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with that. > Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. > TIA > Norv Debian testing here, 2.6.29.5-rt22, ASUS Mobo (don't remember exatly what model... I am at work now) Optimizing the kernel? ... it depends from your hardware but, apart from binary size, I can not really say if turning off wireless stuffs from kernel config could improve RT performances. I am sure somebody else can comment bettere on this. cheers -r _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeOn Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:26:13 -0400
carmen <_@...> wrote: > On Tue Jun 30, 2009 at 03:43:45PM -0700, munkeyfreenix batcat wrote: > > I'm runnning my audio laptop on gentoo using alot from the pro-audio > > overlay. couldn't imagine another route. > > the archaudio repo probably has binaries, but i havent checked. > havent got my head around archs' building stuff tbh.. > > since compiling (or even running firefox) is pure hell on the Atom > N270. i cant imagine theyd be useful for audio given their 1/8th the > power of stateoftheart CPUs unless yo just want an instance of ZynAdd > or something Right, the archaudio.org repo has binaries but is still pretty young. The Arch User Repo has most known pieces of audio software and it's easy to compile them using the provided buildscripts. One benefit for your case would be that you can keep the whole installation quite minimal (no need to install KDE, Gnome or even X, etc.). Regards, Philipp _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeRaffaele Morelli wrote:
> 2009/6/30 Norval Watson <norv2001@...>: >> Hi y'all, >> I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. >> I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my Eee. >> I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). >> AFAIK, options include: >> DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC >> ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 >> Eeebuntu http://www.eeebuntu.org/ >> Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) >> >> I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with that. >> Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. >> TIA >> Norv > > > Debian testing here, 2.6.29.5-rt22, ASUS Mobo (don't remember exatly > what model... I am at work now) > > Optimizing the kernel? ... it depends from your hardware but, apart > from binary size, I can not really say if turning off wireless stuffs > from kernel config could improve RT performances. I am sure somebody > else can comment bettere on this. I'm slowly turning my wife's old laptop (2.8GHz Celeron, 768MB RAM, saddled with older Intel chipset) into a synthesizer/effects box. It currently has Ubuntu Studio on it. While I have the wireless antenna turned off (we have no wireless network around here), I've never disabled the wifi kernel modules or drivers. And it runs along quite happily at latencies between 5-10 msec using an external USB audio interface ... I seem to recall that the problem with wifi wasn't the presence of the drivers, it was the fact that the system was incessantly trying to make a wifi connection. Maybe that's something Network Manager does that doing your networking using command line stuff doesn't? -- David gnome@... authenticity, honesty, community _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeOn Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:39 AM, david<gnome@...> wrote:
> Raffaele Morelli wrote: >> 2009/6/30 Norval Watson <norv2001@...>: >>> Hi y'all, >>> I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. >>> I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my Eee. >>> I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). >>> AFAIK, options include: >>> DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC >>> ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 >>> Eeebuntu http://www.eeebuntu.org/ >>> Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) >>> >>> I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with that. >>> Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. >>> TIA >>> Norv >> >> >> Debian testing here, 2.6.29.5-rt22, ASUS Mobo (don't remember exatly >> what model... I am at work now) >> >> Optimizing the kernel? ... it depends from your hardware but, apart >> from binary size, I can not really say if turning off wireless stuffs >> from kernel config could improve RT performances. I am sure somebody >> else can comment bettere on this. > > I'm slowly turning my wife's old laptop (2.8GHz Celeron, 768MB RAM, > saddled with older Intel chipset) into a synthesizer/effects box. It > currently has Ubuntu Studio on it. While I have the wireless antenna > turned off (we have no wireless network around here), I've never > disabled the wifi kernel modules or drivers. And it runs along quite > happily at latencies between 5-10 msec using an external USB audio > interface ... > > I seem to recall that the problem with wifi wasn't the presence of the > drivers, it was the fact that the system was incessantly trying to make > a wifi connection. Maybe that's something Network Manager does that > doing your networking using command line stuff doesn't? > > -- > David > gnome@... > authenticity, honesty, community > _______________________________________________ > Linux-audio-user mailing list > Linux-audio-user@... > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > Yeah, there is a command line utility that searches for wireless access points and lists their respective signal strength etc. (iwlist), and I only run it if I think an access point should be there and I am not finding it or getting a poor connection. It seems like networkmanager runs iwlist or does some equivalent on a frequent basis (even if it already has a wifi connection), and uses quite a bit of CPU doing it. I no longer need to worry about this since switching to debian, where the /etc/network/interfaces config file plus the ifup/ifdown commands that reference that configuration have served me just fine. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for EeeOn Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 03:00:18AM -0700, Justin Smith wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:39 AM, david<gnome@...> wrote: > > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > >> 2009/6/30 Norval Watson <norv2001@...>: > >>> Hi y'all, > >>> I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. > >>> I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my Eee. > >>> I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). > >>> AFAIK, options include: > >>> DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC > >>> ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 > >>> Eeebuntu http://www.eeebuntu.org/ > >>> Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) > >>> > >>> I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with that. > >>> Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. > >>> TIA > >>> Norv > >> > >> > >> Debian testing here, 2.6.29.5-rt22, ASUS Mobo (don't remember exatly > >> what model... I am at work now) > >> > >> Optimizing the kernel? ... it depends from your hardware but, apart > >> from binary size, I can not really say if turning off wireless stuffs > >> from kernel config could improve RT performances. I am sure somebody > >> else can comment bettere on this. > > > > I'm slowly turning my wife's old laptop (2.8GHz Celeron, 768MB RAM, > > saddled with older Intel chipset) into a synthesizer/effects box. It > > currently has Ubuntu Studio on it. While I have the wireless antenna > > turned off (we have no wireless network around here), I've never > > disabled the wifi kernel modules or drivers. And it runs along quite > > happily at latencies between 5-10 msec using an external USB audio > > interface ... > > > > I seem to recall that the problem with wifi wasn't the presence of the > > drivers, it was the fact that the system was incessantly trying to make > > a wifi connection. Maybe that's something Network Manager does that > > doing your networking using command line stuff doesn't? > > > > -- > > David > > gnome@... > > authenticity, honesty, community > > _______________________________________________ > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > Linux-audio-user@... > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > Yeah, there is a command line utility that searches for wireless > access points and lists their respective signal strength etc. > (iwlist), and I only run it if I think an access point should be there > and I am not finding it or getting a poor connection. > > It seems like networkmanager runs iwlist or does some equivalent on a > frequent basis (even if it already has a wifi connection), and uses > quite a bit of CPU doing it. I no longer need to worry about this > since switching to debian, where the /etc/network/interfaces config > file plus the ifup/ifdown commands that reference that configuration > have served me just fine. I have an EEE 1000 and I use it constantly with Debian, and have performed with it a good half-dozen times now, and rehearsed and practiced on it many more. I'm very happy with Debian-EEE. I created packages for the RT kernel and relevant drivers for it, and uploaded them here in case anyone wants them: http://restivo.nfshost.com/projects/eee/debs/ I dislike the Network Manager intensely, so I turned it off. I just type "sudo iwlist ra0 scan" when I need to find what's out there. Nowadays I just use a Sierra Wireless USB adapter with the Sprint PCS network instead, and very rarely fire up the wifi anyway. -ken _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for Eee----- Original Message ---- > From: Ken Restivo <ken@...> > To: Justin Smith <noisesmith@...> > Cc: LAU <linux-audio-user@...> > Sent: Friday, 3 July, 2009 9:11:19 AM > Subject: Re: [LAU] Best realtime audio dstro for Eee > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 03:00:18AM -0700, Justin Smith wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:39 AM, davidwrote: > > > Raffaele Morelli wrote: > > >> 2009/6/30 Norval Watson : > > >>> Hi y'all, > > >>> I want to install a realtime audio distro on my new Asus Eee 901. > > >>> I need a 2.6.29 realtime kernel or higher to support the hardware on my > Eee. > > >>> I have got the 2G RAM (haven't swapped it in yet). > > >>> AFAIK, options include: > > >>> DebianEeePC http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC > > >>> ArchLinux http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Asus_Eee_PC_901 > > >>> Eeebuntu http://www..eeebuntu.org/ > > >>> Indamixx USB stick, when it's available, (and it's not free) > > >>> > > >>> I have been using Debian unstable for some years so I'm most familiar with > that. > > >>> Any suggestions welcome, particularly regarding optimizing the kernel. > > >>> TIA > > >>> Norv > > >> > > >> > > >> Debian testing here, 2.6.29.5-rt22, ASUS Mobo (don't remember exatly > > >> what model... I am at work now) > > >> > > >> Optimizing the kernel? ... it depends from your hardware but, apart > > >> from binary size, I can not really say if turning off wireless stuffs > > >> from kernel config could improve RT performances. I am sure somebody > > >> else can comment bettere on this. > > > > > > I'm slowly turning my wife's old laptop (2.8GHz Celeron, 768MB RAM, > > > saddled with older Intel chipset) into a synthesizer/effects box. It > > > currently has Ubuntu Studio on it. While I have the wireless antenna > > > turned off (we have no wireless network around here), I've never > > > disabled the wifi kernel modules or drivers. And it runs along quite > > > happily at latencies between 5-10 msec using an external USB audio > > > interface ... > > > > > > I seem to recall that the problem with wifi wasn't the presence of the > > > drivers, it was the fact that the system was incessantly trying to make > > > a wifi connection. Maybe that's something Network Manager does that > > > doing your networking using command line stuff doesn't? > > > > > > -- > > > David > > > gnome@... > > > authenticity, honesty, community > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Linux-audio-user mailing list > > > Linux-audio-user@... > > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user > > > > > > > Yeah, there is a command line utility that searches for wireless > > access points and lists their respective signal strength etc. > > (iwlist), and I only run it if I think an access point should be there > > and I am not finding it or getting a poor connection. > > > > It seems like networkmanager runs iwlist or does some equivalent on a > > frequent basis (even if it already has a wifi connection), and uses > > quite a bit of CPU doing it. I no longer need to worry about this > > since switching to debian, where the /etc/network/interfaces config > > file plus the ifup/ifdown commands that reference that configuration > > have served me just fine. > > I have an EEE 1000 and I use it constantly with Debian, and have performed with > it a good half-dozen times now, and rehearsed and practiced on it many more.. I'm > very happy with Debian-EEE. I created packages for the RT kernel and relevant > drivers for it, and uploaded them here in case anyone wants them: > http://restivo.nfshost.com/projects/eee/debs/ > > I dislike the Network Manager intensely, so I turned it off. I just type "sudo > iwlist ra0 scan" when I need to find what's out there. Nowadays I just use a > Sierra Wireless USB adapter with the Sprint PCS network instead, and very rarely > fire up the wifi anyway. > > -ken Thanks everybody for your help and suggestions. I ended up going with Debian as that's what I am familiar with. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC Being a bit lazy (like oz/zi) I grabbed the 2.6.29-rc6-rt3 realtime kernel I have been using on a 32bit partition on the amd64 box and that seems to work OK on the Eee. I wanted the .29 series coz it's got the wireless module for the 901 in the kernel. I installed Qjackctl and was a bit puzzled why JACK would not start until I realised that Qjackctl does not install jackd automatically as a dependency. I installed jackd and now it works. Plugged in my Korg padKONTROL and CME UF5 keyboard controller via USB, hooked them up to AMSynth in Qjackctl's Connections pane and I was up and running. The little Eee sits up on top of the UF5 perfectly, like they were designed together. It is very early days and I have to sort out a few things - eg. sound only coming out RH side - but there is a lot of help both here, on the DebianEee site, on the Pianotek forum, on Ken's blog, and other places and I'm grateful for that. Thanks again! Norv ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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Re: Best realtime audio dstro for Eee> > It is very early days and I have to sort out a few things - eg. sound only > coming out RH side - Sound problem was a dirty speaker jack. I'm pretty deaf on that side so its hard to keep track of what's going on.. Norv ____________________________________________________________________________________ Access Yahoo!7 Mail on your mobile. Anytime. Anywhere. Show me how: http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mail _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-user mailing list Linux-audio-user@... http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user |
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