Blamstrain albums available for free / paywhatyouwant download

[Juho Hietala-2]

Hi!
I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
320k/wav/flac/whatever!

http://www.blamstrain.com/

Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)

Juho

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[Thomas Jespersen]

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> Hi!
> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>
> http://www.blamstrain.com/

Thanks :)

I could not find anywhere to donate money, but perhaps I just have to look
harder.  (could possibly be Noscript that blocks something on the site)


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[Juho Hietala-2]

You can just name your own price on an album (click on Download and
it'll ask you the price..) and that'll work as a donation.
If you pay more than 0€ you don't have to put your email in either ;)

Thanks!
Juho

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Thomas Jespersen <front243@...> wrote:

>
> --------------------------------------------------
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> Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: <idm@...>
> Subject: [idm] Blamstrain albums available for free / paywhatyouwant
> download
>
>> Hi!
>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>>
>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>
> Thanks :)
>
> I could not find anywhere to donate money, but perhaps I just have to look
> harder.  (could possibly be Noscript that blocks something on the site)
>

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[theREALmxyzptlk]

I'm really liking "Galaxy Spots," and the B side makes for a nice
ambient daze.
When is the LP due, and will it be an idm/ambient crisscross?

jeff


Juho Hietala wrote:

> Hi!
> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>
> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>
> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>
> Juho
>
>
>  

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[Kurt Pruenner]

Juho Hietala wrote:
> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>
> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>
> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)

Nice, but... is it just me, or are the downloads taking forever? It's
380MB of FLAC for "Ensi", and it looks like it'll take 4 or 5 hours to
download those... :(

(And no, it's not my cable modem - a download from archive.org I've just
started is chugging along at 200+ kB/second...)

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.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
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[Esa Ruoho-2]

bandcamp failure

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Kurt Pruenner <leak@...> wrote:

> Juho Hietala wrote:
> > I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
> > 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
> >
> > http://www.blamstrain.com/
> >
> > Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
> > not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>
> Nice, but... is it just me, or are the downloads taking forever? It's
> 380MB of FLAC for "Ensi", and it looks like it'll take 4 or 5 hours to
> download those... :(
>
> (And no, it's not my cable modem - a download from archive.org I've just
> started is chugging along at 200+ kB/second...)
>
> --
> Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria
> .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
> np: David Sylvian - The Beekeeper's Apprentice (Approaching Silence)
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[Juho Hietala-2]

Bandcamp might be slammed at the moment, sorry! :(

Juho


On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Kurt Pruenner <leak@...> wrote:

> Juho Hietala wrote:
>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>>
>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>>
>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>
> Nice, but... is it just me, or are the downloads taking forever? It's
> 380MB of FLAC for "Ensi", and it looks like it'll take 4 or 5 hours to
> download those... :(
>
> (And no, it's not my cable modem - a download from archive.org I've just
> started is chugging along at 200+ kB/second...)
>
> --
> Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria
> .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
> np: David Sylvian - The Beekeeper's Apprentice (Approaching Silence)
>
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[Juho Hietala-2]

Thanks Jeff! The LP's due next year and will probably be the last
Blamstrain album for the foreseeable future, so I'm gonna try and make
it worth the wait.

Juho

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:18 PM, theREAL <theREALmxyzptlk@...> wrote:

> I'm really liking "Galaxy Spots," and the B side makes for a nice ambient
> daze.
> When is the LP due, and will it be an idm/ambient crisscross?
>
> jeff
>
>
> Juho Hietala wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>>
>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>>
>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>>
>> Juho
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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[Kurt Pruenner]

Esa Ruoho wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Kurt Pruenner <leak@...> wrote:
> > Nice, but... is it just me, or are the downloads taking forever? It's
> > 380MB of FLAC for "Ensi", and it looks like it'll take 4 or 5 hours to
> > download those... :(
> >
> > (And no, it's not my cable modem - a download from archive.org I've just
> > started is chugging along at 200+ kB/second...)
>
> bandcamp failure

Heh... looking at their FAQ:

"What's Bandcamp?
[...]
Earlier this year, one of my favorite bands left their label, recorded a
new album, and released it as a digital download from their own website.
The hour it was due out, I headed to their site, and after several
minutes of watching the page struggle to load, concluded that they were
just slammed and made a note to check back the next day. But when I did,
the site was, once again, excruciatingly slow.
[...]
Seemed nuts to us, so we created Bandcamp[...]"

Oh well, at least their Flash downloader seems to support resuming
downloads...

--
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.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N".......
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[Juho Hietala-2]

I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased, how
much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
Welcome to the future!

www.blamstrain.com

-J

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:

> Hi!
> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>
> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>
> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>
> Juho
>

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[Juho Hietala-2]

If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while it's
still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this month.
I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.

-J


On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:

> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased, how
> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
> Welcome to the future!
>
> www.blamstrain.com
>
> -J
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>>
>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>>
>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>>
>> Juho
>>
>

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[Kent Williams]

Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake Shakir
said nice things about it.

Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list will
figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can download
an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:

> If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while it's
> still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
> wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this month.
> I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
>
> -J
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:
>> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased, how
>> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
>> Welcome to the future!
>>
>> www.blamstrain.com
>>
>> -J
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
>>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>>>
>>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>>>
>>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
>>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>>>
>>> Juho
>>>
>>
>
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[Clint Anderson]

I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth paying
for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no worse for
being free.

Clint Anderson
System Administrator



On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@...>wrote:

> Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
> existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake Shakir
> said nice things about it.
>
> Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list will
> figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can download
> an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:
> > If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while it's
> > still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
> > wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this month.
> > I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
> >
> > -J
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:
> >> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased, how
> >> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
> >> Welcome to the future!
> >>
> >> www.blamstrain.com
> >>
> >> -J
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
> >>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
> >>>
> >>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
> >>>
> >>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed now,
> >>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
> >>>
> >>> Juho
> >>>
> >>
> >
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[22tape]

and i wish that those talented artist who are making great tunes and giving
them away for free would stop giving them away for free!  make those fuckers
pay for it!  and stop undercutting your worth!  .....but thats an arguement
that just goes in circles.

if anyone would like high quality mp3's of my tunes for free, just let me
know ;-)

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote:

> I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth paying
> for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no worse for
> being free.
>
> Clint Anderson
> System Administrator
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@...
> >wrote:
>
> > Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
> > existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake Shakir
> > said nice things about it.
> >
> > Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list will
> > figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can download
> > an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...> wrote:
> > > If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while it's
> > > still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
> > > wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this month.
> > > I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
> > >
> > > -J
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> wrote:
> > >> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased, how
> > >> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
> > >> Welcome to the future!
> > >>
> > >> www.blamstrain.com
> > >>
> > >> -J
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi!
> > >>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price for
> > >>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
> > >>>
> > >>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed
> now,
> > >>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
> > >>>
> > >>> Juho
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
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http://www.22tape.blogspot.com

[Thomas Hannah]

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss free music, George Fredreich Handel would
give free music concerts, it did undercut the value of his music. Surely the
value of an artists music is not measured in the price we give it but the
emotional value we attach to it. I can download a free song by an artist but
it can still be the most valuable piece of music I own. I really like the
pay what you think it is worth scheme of things, in the old days of going
down to the CD shop, everything was £11, Beyonce Knowles cost the same as
Joy Division.

 I like free music, I don't think it can diminish the value or worth of a
song, my only qualm with it is that you are harming the artist by stopping
them from making a living, but you can still support them in other ways. If
I could ever be arsed to properly promote any of my music I would only
charge a price that would cover my costs and then let people donate or
something if they really felt that it had made any difference to their life.
I think the free music boom is going to have positive effects of the
creative efforts of new artists, now most kids have a discography of 6,000 +
songs, George Harrison never had that, with more influences and inspirations
we should expect a boom of creative and different music.

2009/11/10 Jared Dunne <22tape@...>

> and i wish that those talented artist who are making great tunes and giving
> them away for free would stop giving them away for free!  make those
> fuckers
> pay for it!  and stop undercutting your worth!  .....but thats an arguement
> that just goes in circles.
>
> if anyone would like high quality mp3's of my tunes for free, just let me
> know ;-)
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote:
>
> > I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth
> paying
> > for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no worse for
> > being free.
> >
> > Clint Anderson
> > System Administrator
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@...
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
> > > existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake Shakir
> > > said nice things about it.
> > >
> > > Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list will
> > > figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can download
> > > an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> wrote:
> > > > If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while it's
> > > > still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
> > > > wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this month.
> > > > I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
> > > >
> > > > -J
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> > wrote:
> > > >> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased, how
> > > >> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
> > > >> Welcome to the future!
> > > >>
> > > >> www.blamstrain.com
> > > >>
> > > >> -J
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> Hi!
> > > >>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price
> for
> > > >>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
> > > >>>
> > > >>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed
> > now,
> > > >>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Juho
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
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>
>
> --
> Jared Dunne
> http://www.myspace.com/22tape
> http://www.22tape.blogspot.com
>

--
Thomas Hannah

[Kent Williams]

I release music myself for free, all the time, that's not what I'm
talking about.  I don't even bother putting paypal links on the
release pages, or using bandcamp, because I have a good job and I can
afford to maintain a website.

http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/
http://music.cornwarning.com/sargeant-ridiculous-ep/
http://cornwarning.com/Tickertape/
http://cornwarning.com/lackluster/

But I really fucking hate people who think it's cool to get something
for nothing. If you like the work of an artist, and they're selling
it, don't steal it.  I don't care if you BT something to check it out,
but the way that talented musicians are able to devote their time to
their work is that people are willing to give them money for it.  If
you aren't willing to pay for an artist's music you're not a fan
you're a leech.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...> wrote:
> I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth paying
> for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no worse for
> being free.
>

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[22tape]

as i said this arguement only goes in circles.  and i'm alreay dizzy!  but
my arguement begins and end here:



> ....my only qualm with it is that you are harming the artist by stopping
> them from making a living....
>

if i'm a baker, do i walk around giving my pies away?  do i say, "yes here,
enjoy my nicely baked and yummy pie.  its free.  and i'll bake even more
over the next week, and i'll give those to you for free as well.  and the
same the following week, and the following week.  i'll give all of my pies
away for free for the rest of my life because everyone loves pie, and
they're meant to be eaten!"

>
> 2009/11/10 Jared Dunne <22tape@...>
>
> > and i wish that those talented artist who are making great tunes and
> giving
> > them away for free would stop giving them away for free!  make those
> > fuckers
> > pay for it!  and stop undercutting your worth!  .....but thats an
> arguement
> > that just goes in circles.
> >
> > if anyone would like high quality mp3's of my tunes for free, just let me
> > know ;-)
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth
> > paying
> > > for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no worse for
> > > being free.
> > >
> > > Clint Anderson
> > > System Administrator
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@...
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
> > > > existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake Shakir
> > > > said nice things about it.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list
> will
> > > > figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can download
> > > > an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while it's
> > > > > still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
> > > > > wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this
> month.
> > > > > I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
> > > > >
> > > > > -J
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased,
> how
> > > > >> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
> > > > >> Welcome to the future!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> www.blamstrain.com
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -J
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> Hi!
> > > > >>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price
> > for
> > > > >>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed
> > > now,
> > > > >>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Juho
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
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that's a nice argument but in the end "if everybody liked to do what  
they do" and if everyone was giving everything for free it would be  
much better ;) not depending on money

Leonardo Rosado
On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Jared Dunne wrote:

> as i said this arguement only goes in circles.  and i'm alreay  
> dizzy!  but
> my arguement begins and end here:
>
>
>
>> ....my only qualm with it is that you are harming the artist by  
>> stopping
>> them from making a living....
>>
>
> if i'm a baker, do i walk around giving my pies away?  do i say,  
> "yes here,
> enjoy my nicely baked and yummy pie.  its free.  and i'll bake even  
> more
> over the next week, and i'll give those to you for free as well.  
> and the
> same the following week, and the following week.  i'll give all of  
> my pies
> away for free for the rest of my life because everyone loves pie, and
> they're meant to be eaten!"
>
>
>
>>
>> 2009/11/10 Jared Dunne <22tape@...>
>>
>>> and i wish that those talented artist who are making great tunes and
>> giving
>>> them away for free would stop giving them away for free!  make those
>>> fuckers
>>> pay for it!  and stop undercutting your worth!  .....but thats an
>> arguement
>>> that just goes in circles.
>>>
>>> if anyone would like high quality mp3's of my tunes for free, just  
>>> let me
>>> know ;-)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth
>>> paying
>>>> for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no  
>>>> worse for
>>>> being free.
>>>>
>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>> System Administrator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@...
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
>>>>> existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake  
>>>>> Shakir
>>>>> said nice things about it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list
>> will
>>>>> figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can  
>>>>> download
>>>>> an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while  
>>>>>> it's
>>>>>> still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
>>>>>> wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this
>> month.
>>>>>> I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -J
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased,
>> how
>>>>>>> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every  
>>>>>>> day.
>>>>>>> Welcome to the future!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.blamstrain.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -J
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala  
>>>>>>> <hietala@...
>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-
>>>>>>>> price
>>> for
>>>>>>>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain  
>>>>>>>> Remixed
>>>> now,
>>>>>>>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juho
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jared Dunne
>>> http://www.myspace.com/22tape
>>> http://www.22tape.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Hannah
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jared Dunne
> http://www.myspace.com/22tape
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[Clint Anderson]

No, but if one day someone figures out how to make pies for free, you're
going to go out of business.
Do we still have ice men deliver ice to our icechests in our homes?  Chimney
sweeps?  Milkmen?  we don't even have any full service gas stations in town
here... so what happened to all those jobs?
I do computer work, if someday system administration becomes so trivial and
simple that nobody wants to hire system admins, im out of a job, i can be
unhappy about it, but thats the free market.
there is a more or less infinite supply of music out there, and a fixed
demand, the value of music is steadily decreasing as more and more people
are able to make more and more of it for less and deliver it for nothing.


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@...> wrote:

> as i said this arguement only goes in circles.  and i'm alreay dizzy!  but
> my arguement begins and end here:
>
>
>
> > ....my only qualm with it is that you are harming the artist by stopping
> > them from making a living....
> >
>
> if i'm a baker, do i walk around giving my pies away?  do i say, "yes here,
> enjoy my nicely baked and yummy pie.  its free.  and i'll bake even more
> over the next week, and i'll give those to you for free as well.  and the
> same the following week, and the following week.  i'll give all of my pies
> away for free for the rest of my life because everyone loves pie, and
> they're meant to be eaten!"
>
>
>
> >
> > 2009/11/10 Jared Dunne <22tape@...>
> >
> > > and i wish that those talented artist who are making great tunes and
> > giving
> > > them away for free would stop giving them away for free!  make those
> > > fuckers
> > > pay for it!  and stop undercutting your worth!  .....but thats an
> > arguement
> > > that just goes in circles.
> > >
> > > if anyone would like high quality mp3's of my tunes for free, just let
> me
> > > know ;-)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth
> > > paying
> > > > for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no worse
> for
> > > > being free.
> > > >
> > > > Clint Anderson
> > > > System Administrator
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams <
> chaircrusher@...
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
> > > > > existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake
> Shakir
> > > > > said nice things about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list
> > will
> > > > > figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can
> download
> > > > > an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while
> it's
> > > > > > still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
> > > > > > wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this
> > month.
> > > > > > I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -J
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased,
> > how
> > > > > >> much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every
> day.
> > > > > >> Welcome to the future!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> www.blamstrain.com
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -J
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <
> hietala@...
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >>> Hi!
> > > > > >>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and
> name-your-own-price
> > > for
> > > > > >>> 320k/wav/flac/whatever!
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain
> Remixed
> > > > now,
> > > > > >>> not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Juho
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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> > > http://www.myspace.com/22tape
> > > http://www.22tape.blogspot.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thomas Hannah
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jared Dunne
> http://www.myspace.com/22tape
> http://www.22tape.blogspot.com
>

[22tape]

ah yes, the free trade thing.  that would be nice indeed!  but thats not the
world we live in unfortunately...

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:03 AM, LtR@feedback loop <
feedbacklooplabel@...> wrote:

> that's a nice argument but in the end "if everybody liked to do what they
> do" and if everyone was giving everything for free it would be much better
> ;) not depending on money
>
> Leonardo Rosado
>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Jared Dunne wrote:
>
> as i said this arguement only goes in circles.  and i'm alreay dizzy!  but
>> my arguement begins and end here:
>>
>>
>>
>> ....my only qualm with it is that you are harming the artist by stopping
>>> them from making a living....
>>>
>>>
>> if i'm a baker, do i walk around giving my pies away?  do i say, "yes
>> here,
>> enjoy my nicely baked and yummy pie.  its free.  and i'll bake even more
>> over the next week, and i'll give those to you for free as well.  and the
>> same the following week, and the following week.  i'll give all of my pies
>> away for free for the rest of my life because everyone loves pie, and
>> they're meant to be eaten!"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2009/11/10 Jared Dunne <22tape@...>
>>>
>>> and i wish that those talented artist who are making great tunes and
>>>>
>>> giving
>>>
>>>> them away for free would stop giving them away for free!  make those
>>>> fuckers
>>>> pay for it!  and stop undercutting your worth!  .....but thats an
>>>>
>>> arguement
>>>
>>>> that just goes in circles.
>>>>
>>>> if anyone would like high quality mp3's of my tunes for free, just let
>>>> me
>>>> know ;-)
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@...>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not going to disagree that alot of music is fantastic and worth
>>>>>
>>>> paying
>>>>
>>>>> for, but there is also alot of music that is free which is no worse for
>>>>> being free.
>>>>>
>>>>> Clint Anderson
>>>>> System Administrator
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, kent williams <chaircrusher@...
>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well I, at least, have now bought more blamstrain than I ever knew
>>>>>> existed, and I've hyped Exosphere on the 313 list, where Shake Shakir
>>>>>> said nice things about it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe someday all the snot-nosed brats that hang out on this list
>>>>>>
>>>>> will
>>>
>>>>  figure out that music is worth paying for, even when you can download
>>>>>> an artists' complete discography free on bittorrent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  If you didn't, now would be a great time to get my stuff while it's
>>>>>>> still available, and maybe help me out with a few bucks so that I
>>>>>>> wouldn't have to sell off all my gear to meet my rent for this
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> month.
>>>
>>>>  I'll be ending the pay what you want experiment in a few weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -J
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I put up statistics (no. of downloads, how many were purchased,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how
>>>
>>>>   much money it's given me) too that I'm going to update every day.
>>>>>>>> Welcome to the future!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> www.blamstrain.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -J
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:09 AM, Juho Hietala <hietala@...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi!
>>>>>>>>> I put everything up for free at 128kbps, and name-your-own-price
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>>   320k/wav/flac/whatever!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.blamstrain.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Pick up your copy of such classics as Ensi and Blamstrain Remixed
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> now,
>>>>>
>>>>>>  not to mention my newest stuff! And tell your friends! :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Juho
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jared Dunne
>>>> http://www.myspace.com/22tape
>>>> http://www.22tape.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thomas Hannah
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jared Dunne
>> http://www.myspace.com/22tape
>> http://www.22tape.blogspot.com
>>
>
>

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http://www.myspace.com/22tape
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