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Brilliant? or not?
by WJhonson
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SMAX = (S1 > S2) * S1 + (S2 >= S1) * S2 ? _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Rex Gozar-2
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SMAX = MAXIMUM(S1:@FM:S2)
seems clearer... _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by WJhonson
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Ah one of those new fangled functions that have been around for 12 years..... -----Original Message----- From: Rex Gozar <rgozar@...> To: U2 Users List <u2-users@...> Sent: Fri, Jan 13, 2012 9:44 am Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? SMAX = MAXIMUM(S1:@FM:S2) seems clearer... ______________________________________________ 2-Users mailing list 2-Users@... ttp://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Mecki Foerthmann
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What's wrong with IF S1 > S2 THEN SMAX = S1 ELSE SMAX = S2?
Definitely more readable! If it was hard to write then it should be hard to read, I guess. On 13/01/2012 17:41, Wjhonson wrote: > SMAX = (S1> S2) * S1 + (S2>= S1) * S2 > > ? > > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@... > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Bill Haskett
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Darn...that's too simple! In addition, for a geek, there are too many
characters. :-) Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- *From:* meckif@... *To:* u2-users@... *Date:* 1/13/2012 9:52 AM *Subject:* Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? > What's wrong with IF S1 > S2 THEN SMAX = S1 ELSE SMAX = S2? > Definitely more readable! > > If it was hard to write then it should be hard to read, I guess. > > On 13/01/2012 17:41, Wjhonson wrote: >> SMAX = (S1> S2) * S1 + (S2>= S1) * S2 >> >> ? _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by John Solie
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Clever, but if it isn't commented, very difficult to maintain. Either way it might cause me to go hunting for Mr. Clever with my Nerf Bat.
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by George Gallen-2
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Along the same lines.....
MSG = "SUCCESS"[1,9999*(X = 4)] Instead of: IF X=4 THEN MSG="SUCCESS" ELSE MSG="" George -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:42 PM To: u2-users@... Subject: [U2] Brilliant? or not? SMAX = (S1 > S2) * S1 + (S2 >= S1) * S2 ? _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Bill Brutzman-2
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>From the perspective of writing scenario-proof code...I live in a world of case statements...
Begin case Case s1 > s2 ; sMax = s1 Case 1 ; sMax = s2 End case --Bill -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:52 PM To: u2-users@... Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? What's wrong with IF S1 > S2 THEN SMAX = S1 ELSE SMAX = S2? Definitely more readable! If it was hard to write then it should be hard to read, I guess. On 13/01/2012 17:41, Wjhonson wrote: > SMAX = (S1> S2) * S1 + (S2>= S1) * S2 > > ? > > > _______________________________________________ > U2-Users mailing list > U2-Users@... > http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by David A. Green
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Are you trying to emulate C?
SMAX = (S1 > S2) ? S1 : S2; David A. Green (480) 813-1725 DAG Consulting -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:42 AM To: u2-users@... Subject: [U2] Brilliant? or not? SMAX = (S1 > S2) * S1 + (S2 >= S1) * S2 ? _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Allen E. Elwood
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violates the kiss principle....
certainly a candidate for the rube goldberg programmer of the year, or as they say in france "usine à gaz" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rube_Goldberg_machine -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 9:42 AM To: u2-users@... Subject: [U2] Brilliant? or not? SMAX = (S1 > S2) * S1 + (S2 >= S1) * S2 ? _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Ross Ferris
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NOT!
Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage > Better by Design! -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Saturday, 14 January 2012 4:42 AM To: u2-users@... Subject: [U2] Brilliant? or not? SMAX = (S1 > S2) * S1 + (S2 >= S1) * S2 ? _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Doug Farmer-2
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I used to have a "C" programmer working for me that reveled in
condensing multiple lines of "C" code to a single statement, much more obtuse than that. He is no longer employed here. Nuff said Doug -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 10:42 AM To: u2-users@... Subject: [U2] Brilliant? or not? SMAX = (S1 > S2) * S1 + (S2 >= S1) * S2 ? -------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Charles_Shaffer
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>>> I used to have a "C" programmer working for me that reveled in
>>> condensing multiple lines of "C" code to a single statement, much more >>> obtuse than that. >>> He is no longer employed here. >>> Nuff said >>> Doug ************* Aside from it not being readable, compacting C code like that can reduce portability. Different compilers may evaluate complex, compacted code differently. Don't ask me how I know that. Charles Shaffer Senior Analyst NTN-Bower Corporation _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Tony Gravagno-3
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> From: Charles_Shaffer
> Aside from it not being readable, compacting C code > like that can reduce portability. Different compilers > may evaluate complex, compacted code differently. Same thing has actually happened with BASIC code that's ported from one platform to another. Rule of thumb: Don't get cute. Spell out the code so that any dumb compiler or programmer can read it. On-topic: that makes my response to this thread, "not". One of our colleagues from the mid 80's wrote code that was so clean I liked to say we could eat off of it. I think he still reads this forum: So to Mark Vander Veen, here we are over 20 years later and I Still appreciate your code. Now THAT is Brilliant. T _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by George Gallen-2
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This is one of the reasons why I continue to x=x+1 instead of x++
Not all languages support the ++, but they all support x=x+1 George -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:50 PM To: u2-users@... Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? > From: Charles_Shaffer > Aside from it not being readable, compacting C code > like that can reduce portability. Different compilers > may evaluate complex, compacted code differently. Same thing has actually happened with BASIC code that's ported from one platform to another. Rule of thumb: Don't get cute. Spell out the code so that any dumb compiler or programmer can read it. On-topic: that makes my response to this thread, "not". One of our colleagues from the mid 80's wrote code that was so clean I liked to say we could eat off of it. I think he still reads this forum: So to Mark Vander Veen, here we are over 20 years later and I Still appreciate your code. Now THAT is Brilliant. T _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Robert Houben-2
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And as a side-note most compilers worth using will generate the same machine instructions when you optimize, so there's no benefit in the "cute" versions. The more long-winded "readable" version is much more valuable in the long run... IMO
-----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: January-16-12 10:54 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? This is one of the reasons why I continue to x=x+1 instead of x++ Not all languages support the ++, but they all support x=x+1 George -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 1:50 PM To: u2-users@... Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? > From: Charles_Shaffer > Aside from it not being readable, compacting C code like that can > reduce portability. Different compilers may evaluate complex, > compacted code differently. Same thing has actually happened with BASIC code that's ported from one platform to another. Rule of thumb: Don't get cute. Spell out the code so that any dumb compiler or programmer can read it. On-topic: that makes my response to this thread, "not". One of our colleagues from the mid 80's wrote code that was so clean I liked to say we could eat off of it. I think he still reads this forum: So to Mark Vander Veen, here we are over 20 years later and I Still appreciate your code. Now THAT is Brilliant. T _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Symeon Breen
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Hmmmm
This has whole topic has been mentioned on here before, and my stance is the same, if you can not read that code and work it out in 4 seconds, then maybe you should not be a programmer. Code is code, read it , understand it, get over it .... -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: 16 January 2012 18:50 To: u2-users@... Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? > From: Charles_Shaffer > Aside from it not being readable, compacting C code like that can > reduce portability. Different compilers may evaluate complex, > compacted code differently. Same thing has actually happened with BASIC code that's ported from one platform to another. Rule of thumb: Don't get cute. Spell out the code so that any dumb compiler or programmer can read it. On-topic: that makes my response to this thread, "not". One of our colleagues from the mid 80's wrote code that was so clean I liked to say we could eat off of it. I think he still reads this forum: So to Mark Vander Veen, here we are over 20 years later and I Still appreciate your code. Now THAT is Brilliant. T _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4146 - Release Date: 01/16/12 _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Tom Whitmore
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I agree with Tony.
You can write dense code, but the goal should always be to write clear, documented, code so the next programmer doesn't have to "figure out" what you are trying to do. The more dense the code, the higher the cost to maintain the code. The beauty of PICK code is that you can write "self-documenting" code, or code that is dense and obtuse. I urge everyone to write clear code, including meaningful variables and comments! Tom RATEX Business Solutions -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 3:17 PM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? Hmmmm This has whole topic has been mentioned on here before, and my stance is the same, if you can not read that code and work it out in 4 seconds, then maybe you should not be a programmer. Code is code, read it , understand it, get over it .... -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-bounces@... [mailto:u2-users-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: 16 January 2012 18:50 To: u2-users@... Subject: Re: [U2] Brilliant? or not? > From: Charles_Shaffer > Aside from it not being readable, compacting C code like that can > reduce portability. Different compilers may evaluate complex, > compacted code differently. Same thing has actually happened with BASIC code that's ported from one platform to another. Rule of thumb: Don't get cute. Spell out the code so that any dumb compiler or programmer can read it. On-topic: that makes my response to this thread, "not". One of our colleagues from the mid 80's wrote code that was so clean I liked to say we could eat off of it. I think he still reads this forum: So to Mark Vander Veen, here we are over 20 years later and I Still appreciate your code. Now THAT is Brilliant. T _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4146 - Release Date: 01/16/12 _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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Re: Brilliant? or not?
by Mecki Foerthmann
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I agree, if it took you more than 4 seconds to work that piece of code
out you shouldn't be a programmer. But if it requires working out and thus at least twice as long than reading a simple if-then-else statement it's definitely not a brilliant piece of code. On 16/01/2012 20:16, Symeon Breen wrote: > Hmmmm > > > This has whole topic has been mentioned on here before, and my stance is the > same, if you can not read that code and work it out in 4 seconds, then maybe > you should not be a programmer. Code is code, read it , understand it, get > over it .... > > _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@... http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users |
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