Bug#482705: Source format "3.0 (quilt)" allowed in testing/unstable

[Raphael Hertzog-3]

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Hello,

the new source format "3.0 (quilt)" is now allowed in testing/unstable and
having all packages buildable with the new format is a release goal
(http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NewDebFormats).

Thus it would be nice to see this bug fixed. If you want, you can directly
fix the bug by switching the package to use the new format. In order to
help you in this process, I have put some advice on the project page and
will continue to complete it with answers to your questions:
http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#FAQ

If you need help, please tag the bug help and someone might provide you a
patch. Ask explicitely if you want a patch to convert the package to the
new source format.

The few packages that contain multiple tarballs in the .orig tarball
should (ideally) be converted to the new format by using the multiple
upstream tarball feature that it offers.

I also recommend switching to quilt if you use another patch system
since it's now the patch system that is endorsed by the dpkg maintainers.

If you have questions, please ask.

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[Torsten Landschoff-4]

Hi Raphael,

On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 07:36:15PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
 
> the new source format "3.0 (quilt)" is now allowed in testing/unstable and
> having all packages buildable with the new format is a release goal
> (http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NewDebFormats).

Thanks for all your work on this. I am going to convert all my packages
to the new format on the next upload. Which will be soon, I hope.

Cheers, Torsten



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[Jan Hauke Rahm-2]

Hi Raphael,

thanks for the reminder!

Hi Norbert and Frank,

I've just rebuilt the package in sid with 3.0 (quilt) and it built fine
without problems in a clean chroot. I think you just forgot to close
this bug with the last upload. I won't do it as I'm not maintainer but I
thought you might wanna know... :)

Hauke

[Raphael Hertzog-3]

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

> Version: 23-1
>
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 07:36:15PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >the new source format "3.0 (quilt)" is now allowed in
> >testing/unstable and having all packages buildable with the new
> >format is a release goal
> >(http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NewDebFormats).
>
> This is great news!
>
> I will not, however, switch to the new format just yet - it seems to
> work fine with git-buildpackage, but I am uncertain how to deal with
> the .dpkg-source-applied in git (best to add a gitignore file or
> include it with source?), and also I do not really have the time to
> fix errors that might lurk still to be discovered.

The .dpkg-source-applied should not be included anywhere. In fact it will
be auto-ignored when creating the source package (even if it exists), i.e.
it will not be included in the debian.tar.gz that's created.

I don't see why it would end up in your repository (except if you're using
lenny, as dpkg-source was creating the file at build time too, by
mistake).

> But I tested and verified that this concrete bug is no longer: local
> cdbs snippet copyright-check.mk only warns about changes (except
> when DEB_MAINTAINER_BUILD is enabled).

Indeed, it converts just fine.

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[Jonas Smedegaard]

On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 08:37:17AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:

>On Wed, 04 Nov 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Version: 23-1
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 07:36:15PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> >the new source format "3.0 (quilt)" is now allowed in
>> >testing/unstable and having all packages buildable with the new
>> >format is a release goal
>> >(http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NewDebFormats).
>>
>> This is great news!
>>
>> I will not, however, switch to the new format just yet - it seems to
>> work fine with git-buildpackage, but I am uncertain how to deal with
>> the .dpkg-source-applied in git (best to add a gitignore file or
>> include it with source?), and also I do not really have the time to
>> fix errors that might lurk still to be discovered.
>
>The .dpkg-source-applied should not be included anywhere. In fact it
>will be auto-ignored when creating the source package (even if it
>exists), i.e. it will not be included in the debian.tar.gz that's
>created.
>
>I don't see why it would end up in your repository (except if you're
>using lenny, as dpkg-source was creating the file at build time too, by
>mistake).

I use Sid, both on my underlying system and in the cowbuilder chroot.

When switching to format 3.0, .dpkg-source-applied was left behind in my
git source.  I interpret from your mail above that I can simply delete
that file and expect it to not appear again in my git source later?


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[Raphael Hertzog-3]

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> When switching to format 3.0, .dpkg-source-applied was left behind
> in my git source.

How did you switch? Did you do something else than creating
debian/source/format with "3.0 (quilt)"?

> I interpret from your mail above that I can
> simply delete that file and expect it to not appear again in my git
> source later?

Yes. That file is only created by dpkg-source -x, and you don't extract
your source package on top of your git repository, don't you?

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[أحمد المحمودي]

On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 07:36:15PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> the new source format "3.0 (quilt)" is now allowed in testing/unstable and
> having all packages buildable with the new format is a release goal
> (http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NewDebFormats).
---end quoted text---

  I think lintian should be modified accordingly.

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[Raphael Hertzog-3]

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, أحمد المحمودي wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 07:36:15PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > the new source format "3.0 (quilt)" is now allowed in testing/unstable and
> > having all packages buildable with the new format is a release goal
> > (http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/NewDebFormats).
> ---end quoted text---
>
>   I think lintian should be modified accordingly.

Yes, bugs have already been filed.

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[Domenico Andreoli-5]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Raphael Hertzog <hertzog@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,

Hi Raphael,

> Thus it would be nice to see this bug fixed. If you want, you can directly
> fix the bug by switching the package to use the new format. In order to
> help you in this process, I have put some advice on the project page and
> will continue to complete it with answers to your questions:
> http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#FAQ

well, i completely missed these developments and frankly i still have to
understand how it works. does it apply all the patches in debian/patches?

this would not be suitable for the current use of quilt in curl build because
the whole stack of patches is not always applied. indeed the last patch is
applied only for the gnutls flavour of curl.

is there any package which already uses this source format? i need it
as template.

thanks,
Domenico

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[Raphael Hertzog-3]

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> well, i completely missed these developments and frankly i still have to
> understand how it works. does it apply all the patches in debian/patches?

Please read dpkg-source's man page, it explains it in details. And yes it
applies all patches listed in the series file by default.

> is there any package which already uses this source format? i need it
> as template.

ftplib, tzdata. There's nothing complicated, it works as usual except that
you don't have to care about the quilt stuff yourself.

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