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CHR & cygwin problem.Hi,
CHR doesn't can be loaded in a Cygwin environment. See the details below. Best regards, Pablo. $ yap YAP version Yap-5.1.3 ?- use_module(library(chr)). % reconsulting /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap... % including /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl... ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 47. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:nth/3 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 55. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:substitute/4 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 63. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:substitute/4 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 147. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 150. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 158. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:min_list/2 % /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl included in module user, 1996 msec 3070008 bytes % reconsulted /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap in module chr, 2121 msec 3273136 byt es yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It is the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB _______________________________________________ Yap-users mailing list Yap-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users |
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Re: CHR & cygwin problem.Hi,
Similar issue occurs in the win32 distribution: % Restoring file C:/programs/upversion/Yap/lib/startup YAP version Yap-5.1.3 ?- use_module(library(chr)). % reconsulting C:\programs\upversion\Yap\share\chr.pl... ERROR!! at file C:\programs\upversion\Yap\share\chr\hprolog.pl, near line 157. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 ERROR!! at file C:\programs\upversion\Yap\share\chr\hprolog.pl, near line 161. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 % reconsulted C:\programs\upversion\Yap\share\chr.pl in module chr, 2075 msec 3 062576 bytes yes Best regards, Pablo. 2009/1/12 Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...> Hi, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Yap-users mailing list Yap-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users |
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Re: CHR & cygwin problem.Hi Pablo
There was a bug in Windows version of yap2swi that I fixed. The git master branch should be ok now. Don't worry too much about the warning messages, CHR was originally developed for SWI and it assumes some stuf is in places where they are not :) As long as it compiles to the end it should be ok. Cheers Vitor 2009/1/12 Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...>: > Hi, > > CHR doesn't can be loaded in a Cygwin environment. > > See the details below. > > Best regards, > Pablo. > > $ yap > YAP version Yap-5.1.3 > ?- use_module(library(chr)). > % reconsulting /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap... > % including /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl... > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 47. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:nth/3 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 55. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure > lists:substitute/4 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 63. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure > lists:substitute/4 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 147. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 150. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 158. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:min_list/2 > % /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl included in module user, 1996 msec 3070008 > bytes > % reconsulted /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap in module chr, 2121 msec 3273136 > byt > es > yes > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It is the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB > _______________________________________________ > Yap-users mailing list > Yap-users@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Yap-users mailing list Yap-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users |
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Re: CHR & cygwin problem.Hi Victor,
I get an error during Yap making: ================================================================================================================ gcc -c -march=i686 -DBP_FREE -fno-gcse -fno-crossjumping -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -DCOROUTINING=1 -DRATIONAL_TREES=1 -DDEPTH_LIMIT=1 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../H -I../OPTYap -I../BEAM -I../MYDDAS -I../include ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c -o yap2swi.o ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c: In function `S__fillbuf': ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2425: error: storage size of 'time' isn't known ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2438: warning: implicit declaration of function `select' ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2425: warning: unused variable `time' make: *** [yap2swi.o] Error 1 ================================================================================================================ This are the steps that I've followed: 1) I've downloaded Yap from the CVS repository: cvs -z3 -d:pserver:yap.anonymous@...:/cvsroot/yap co . 2) ../configure --enable-coroutining --enable-max-performance --enable-cygwin=yes && make Best regards, Pablo. 2009/1/14 Vitor Santos Costa <vscosta@...> Hi Pablo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Yap-users mailing list Yap-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users |
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Re: CHR & cygwin problem.Hi Pablo
Can you please try the current version at: http://gitorious.org/projects/yap-git This should fix that bug (it was fixed a few days ago, after your message). It compiled CHR. I have been trying not to advertise it until I have had a stable home for git-yap, but it is taking longer that what I had hoped, Thanks! Vitor On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...> wrote: > Hi Victor, > > I get an error during Yap making: > > ================================================================================================================ > gcc -c -march=i686 -DBP_FREE -fno-gcse -fno-crossjumping -O3 > -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes > -DCOROUTINING=1 -DRATIONAL_TREES=1 -DDEPTH_LIMIT=1 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. > -I../H -I../OPTYap -I../BEAM -I../MYDDAS -I../include > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c -o yap2swi.o > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c: In function `S__fillbuf': > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2425: error: storage size of 'time' isn't known > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2438: warning: implicit declaration of function > `select' > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2425: warning: unused variable `time' > make: *** [yap2swi.o] Error 1 > ================================================================================================================ > > This are the steps that I've followed: > > 1) I've downloaded Yap from the CVS repository: > > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:yap.anonymous@...:/cvsroot/yap co . > > 2) ../configure --enable-coroutining --enable-max-performance > --enable-cygwin=yes && make > > Best regards, > Pablo. > > 2009/1/14 Vitor Santos Costa <vscosta@...> >> >> Hi Pablo >> >> There was a bug in Windows version of yap2swi that I fixed. The git >> master branch should be ok now. >> >> Don't worry too much about the warning messages, CHR was originally >> developed for SWI and it assumes some stuf is in places where they are >> not :) As long as it compiles to the end it should be ok. >> >> Cheers >> >> Vitor >> >> 2009/1/12 Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...>: >> > Hi, >> > >> > CHR doesn't can be loaded in a Cygwin environment. >> > >> > See the details below. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Pablo. >> > >> > $ yap >> > YAP version Yap-5.1.3 >> > ?- use_module(library(chr)). >> > % reconsulting /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap... >> > % including /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl... >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 47. >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:nth/3 >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 55. >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> > lists:substitute/4 >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 63. >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> > lists:substitute/4 >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 147. >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> > lists:sublist/2 >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 150. >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> > lists:sublist/2 >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 158. >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> > lists:min_list/2 >> > % /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl included in module user, 1996 msec >> > 3070008 >> > bytes >> > % reconsulted /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap in module chr, 2121 msec >> > 3273136 >> > byt >> > es >> > yes >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >> > It is the best place to buy or sell services for >> > just about anything Open Source. >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Yap-users mailing list >> > Yap-users@... >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Yap-users mailing list Yap-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users |
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Re: CHR & cygwin problem.Hi Vitor,
Yes, I did the cd mainline. Definitely my previous mail is not a complete list of commands that I executed. Good news are that now I've downloaded the mainline again and it compiles!!!!. Therefore if no changes has been commited since yesterday then I made some mistake building Yap at first time. Now I've new problems running CHR on Yap: First is: ?-use_module(library(chr)) ERROR!! [Thread 0 ] PERMISSION ERROR- use_module(user:library(chr)): cannot read from library(chr) The reason is that chr.pl has been installed in a wrong place. Then I've moved it to the right (?) place: $ mv /usr/local/share/chr.pl /usr/local/share/Yap/ Second is: ==================================================================================== YAP version Yap-5.1.4 ?- use_module(library(chr)). % reconsulting /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl... % Warning: at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 45. % Importing private predicate terms:term_variables/2 to swi. % Warning: at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 45. % Importing private predicate terms:term_variables/3 to swi. ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 116. PERMISSION ERROR- in line 116, system predicate term_variables/2: modifying static procedure term_variables/2 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 119. PERMISSION ERROR- in line 119, system predicate term_variables/3: modifying static procedure term_variables/3 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr/hprolog.pl, near line 160. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr/hprolog.pl, near line 161. PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 % reconsulted /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl in module chr, 3510 msec 3327640 bytes yes ==================================================================================== You said that warnings were no relevant, but I don't know if these errors can be ignored or not. Best regards, Pablo 2009/1/16 Vitor Santos Costa <vscosta@...> Hi Pablo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Yap-users mailing list Yap-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users |
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Re: CHR & cygwin problem.Hi Pablo
I've made a few updates. I found out I was installing chr in the wrong place, and there was a problem with term_variables: it used to be a part of the terms library, it is now standard, to be more compatible with SWI Prolog. Please tell me if it works now. Cheers Vitor On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...> wrote: > Hi Vitor, > > Yes, I did the cd mainline. Definitely my previous mail is not a complete > list of commands that I executed. > > Good news are that now I've downloaded the mainline again and it > compiles!!!!. Therefore if no changes has been commited since yesterday then > I made some mistake building Yap at first time. > > Now I've new problems running CHR on Yap: > > First is: > > ?-use_module(library(chr)) > > ERROR!! [Thread 0 ] > PERMISSION ERROR- use_module(user:library(chr)): cannot read from > library(chr) > > The reason is that chr.pl has been installed in a wrong place. Then I've > moved it to the right (?) place: > > $ mv /usr/local/share/chr.pl /usr/local/share/Yap/ > > Second is: > > ==================================================================================== > YAP version Yap-5.1.4 > ?- use_module(library(chr)). > % reconsulting /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl... > % Warning: at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 45. > % Importing private predicate terms:term_variables/2 to swi. > % Warning: at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 45. > % Importing private predicate terms:term_variables/3 to swi. > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 116. > PERMISSION ERROR- in line 116, system predicate term_variables/2: > modifying static procedure term_variables/2 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/swi.yap, near line 119. > PERMISSION ERROR- in line 119, system predicate term_variables/3: > modifying static procedure term_variables/3 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr/hprolog.pl, near line 160. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr/hprolog.pl, near line 161. > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure lists:sublist/2 > % reconsulted /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl in module chr, 3510 msec 3327640 > bytes > yes > ==================================================================================== > > You said that warnings were no relevant, but I don't know if these errors > can be ignored or not. > > Best regards, > Pablo > > > 2009/1/16 Vitor Santos Costa <vscosta@...> >> >> Hi Pablo >> >> The file shouldn't have those many lines. Are you sure you did >> >> cd mainline >> >> after doing the git? >> >> Thanks >> >> Vitor >> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...> >> wrote: >> > Hi Vitor, >> > >> > I get the same error: >> > >> > >> > =========================================================================================================== >> > gcc -c -march=i686 -DBP_FREE -fno-gcse -fno-crossjumping -O3 >> > -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes >> > -DCOROUTINING=1 -DRATIONAL_TREES=1 -DDEPTH_LIMIT=1 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. >> > -I../H -I../OPTYap -I../BEAM -I../MYDDAS -I../include >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c -o yap2swi.o >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c: In function `S__fillbuf': >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2430: error: storage size of 'time' isn't >> > known >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2443: warning: implicit declaration of >> > function >> > `select' >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2430: warning: unused variable `time' >> > make: *** [yap2swi.o] Error 1 >> > >> > =========================================================================================================== >> > >> > This time, I've installed git on my Cygwin and downloaded the mainline >> > following your link: >> > >> > $ git clone git://gitorious.org/yap-git/mainline.git >> > >> > then >> > >> > $ ../configure --enable-coroutining --enable-max-performance >> > --enable-cygwin=yes >> > >> > ----------------------------------- >> > >> > I've found the timeval struct defined in the "/usr/include/sys/time.h" >> > file. >> > >> > =================== >> > #ifndef _WINSOCK_H >> > struct timeval { >> > time_t tv_sec; >> > suseconds_t tv_usec; >> > }; >> > ... >> > ================== >> > >> > I'm not C expert but examining the code seems like yap2swi.c includes >> > "SWI-Prolog.h" which has: >> > >> > =============== >> > #if HAVE_TIME_H >> > #include <time.h> >> > #endif >> > ============== >> > >> > Then, I looked for HAVE_TIME_H in the config.log and I've found: >> > >> > ====================== >> > #define HAVE_TIME_H 1 >> > ====================== >> > >> > and >> > >> > ======================== >> > #define HAVE_WINSOCK_H 1 >> > ======================== >> > >> > Therefore, I think time.h is rightly included(HAVE_TIME == 1) but >> > timeval >> > is not defined because WINSOCK_H is present (==1). >> > >> > Maybe I'm telling some stupidity but I don't look inside C code >> > internals >> > since a lot of years. If this is the case then I want to apologise. >> > >> > Maybe my config.log reveals some environment difference. I send it to >> > you. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Pablo. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > 2009/1/16 Vitor Santos Costa <vscosta@...> >> >> >> >> Hi Pablo >> >> >> >> Can you please try the current version at: >> >> >> >> http://gitorious.org/projects/yap-git >> >> >> >> This should fix that bug (it was fixed a few days ago, after your >> >> message). It compiled CHR. >> >> >> >> I have been trying not to advertise it until I have had a stable home >> >> for git-yap, but it is taking longer that what I had hoped, >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> Vitor >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Victor, >> >> > >> >> > I get an error during Yap making: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ================================================================================================================ >> >> > gcc -c -march=i686 -DBP_FREE -fno-gcse -fno-crossjumping -O3 >> >> > -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes >> >> > -DCOROUTINING=1 -DRATIONAL_TREES=1 -DDEPTH_LIMIT=1 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H >> >> > -I. >> >> > -I../H -I../OPTYap -I../BEAM -I../MYDDAS -I../include >> >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c -o yap2swi.o >> >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c: In function `S__fillbuf': >> >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2425: error: storage size of 'time' >> >> > isn't >> >> > known >> >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2438: warning: implicit declaration of >> >> > function >> >> > `select' >> >> > ../library/yap2swi/yap2swi.c:2425: warning: unused variable `time' >> >> > make: *** [yap2swi.o] Error 1 >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ================================================================================================================ >> >> > >> >> > This are the steps that I've followed: >> >> > >> >> > 1) I've downloaded Yap from the CVS repository: >> >> > >> >> > cvs -z3 -d:pserver:yap.anonymous@...:/cvsroot/yap co . >> >> > >> >> > 2) ../configure --enable-coroutining --enable-max-performance >> >> > --enable-cygwin=yes && make >> >> > >> >> > Best regards, >> >> > Pablo. >> >> > >> >> > 2009/1/14 Vitor Santos Costa <vscosta@...> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hi Pablo >> >> >> >> >> >> There was a bug in Windows version of yap2swi that I fixed. The git >> >> >> master branch should be ok now. >> >> >> >> >> >> Don't worry too much about the warning messages, CHR was originally >> >> >> developed for SWI and it assumes some stuf is in places where they >> >> >> are >> >> >> not :) As long as it compiles to the end it should be ok. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> >> >> Vitor >> >> >> >> >> >> 2009/1/12 Pablo Beltran <pbeltranl@...>: >> >> >> > Hi, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > CHR doesn't can be loaded in a Cygwin environment. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > See the details below. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Best regards, >> >> >> > Pablo. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > $ yap >> >> >> > YAP version Yap-5.1.3 >> >> >> > ?- use_module(library(chr)). >> >> >> > % reconsulting /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap... >> >> >> > % including /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl... >> >> >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 47. >> >> >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> >> >> > lists:nth/3 >> >> >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 55. >> >> >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> >> >> > lists:substitute/4 >> >> >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 63. >> >> >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> >> >> > lists:substitute/4 >> >> >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 147. >> >> >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> >> >> > lists:sublist/2 >> >> >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 150. >> >> >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> >> >> > lists:sublist/2 >> >> >> > ERROR!! at file /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl, near line 158. >> >> >> > PERMISSION ERROR- consult: modifying static procedure >> >> >> > lists:min_list/2 >> >> >> > % /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.pl included in module user, 1996 msec >> >> >> > 3070008 >> >> >> > bytes >> >> >> > % reconsulted /usr/local/share/Yap/chr.yap in module chr, 2121 >> >> >> > msec >> >> >> > 3273136 >> >> >> > byt >> >> >> > es >> >> >> > yes >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. >> >> >> > It is the best place to buy or sell services for >> >> >> > just about anything Open Source. >> >> >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/Xq1LFB >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > Yap-users mailing list >> >> >> > Yap-users@... >> >> >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword _______________________________________________ Yap-users mailing list Yap-users@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/yap-users |
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