CMF/Zope3-ZTK Microsites

[Andreas Jung-5]

Hi there,

I am currently working on the plan for the www.zope.org relaunch.

Rough ideas are documented here:

http://www.coactivate.org/projects/wwwzopeorg-relaunch/project-home

Regarding the Zope3/ZTK and CMF subprojects: what are the plans
of those subjects for moving to dedicated microsites. We have basically two
options:

 - microsites based on Sphinx
 - something based on Plone

>From the look & feel point of view there are basically two options:

a) use the current zope2.zope.org design
b) use the upcoming www.zope.org design (undecided right now)

Please let me know in order to incorporate yours ideas and plans
with the www.zope.org relaunch master plan.

Andreas

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[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Oct 22, 2009, at 06:46 , Andreas Jung wrote:

> Regarding the Zope3/ZTK and CMF subprojects: what are the plans
> of those subjects for moving to dedicated microsites. We have  
> basically two
> options:
>
> - microsites based on Sphinx
> - something based on Plone

There are no microsite plans for the CMF. I was hoping to lift the  
content from the now-defunct new.zope.org and place it into the next www.zope.org
.

Let's please not make microsites the default for everything. If the  
content can be placed into other existing (or planned) sites there's  
no real advantage to yet another microsite, just added admin burden.

jens




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[Andreas Jung-5]

Am 22.10.09 08:07, schrieb Jens Vagelpohl:

>
> On Oct 22, 2009, at 06:46 , Andreas Jung wrote:
>
>> Regarding the Zope3/ZTK and CMF subprojects: what are the plans
>> of those subjects for moving to dedicated microsites. We have
>> basically two
>> options:
>>
>> - microsites based on Sphinx
>> - something based on Plone
>
> There are no microsite plans for the CMF. I was hoping to lift the
> content from the now-defunct new.zope.org and place it into the next
> www.zope.org.
>
> Let's please not make microsites the default for everything. If the
> content can be placed into other existing (or planned) sites there's
> no real advantage to yet another microsite, just added admin burden.

So the CMF stuff will remain under available under www.zope.org (Plone

3-ish) site? I am fine with that.
There should be much issues with the release management because releases
and release information
will be placed on PyPI!?

Andreas

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[Jens Vagelpohl]

On Oct 22, 2009, at 08:32 , Andreas Jung wrote:

> Am 22.10.09 08:07, schrieb Jens Vagelpohl:
>> There are no microsite plans for the CMF. I was hoping to lift the
>> content from the now-defunct new.zope.org and place it into the next
>> www.zope.org.
>>
>> Let's please not make microsites the default for everything. If the
>> content can be placed into other existing (or planned) sites there's
>> no real advantage to yet another microsite, just added admin burden.
> So the CMF stuff will remain under available under www.zope.org (Plone
> 3-ish) site? I am fine with that.
> There should be much issues with the release management because  
> releases
> and release information
> will be placed on PyPI!?

Correct, since there's no single CMF release at this point, anyway.  
It's just a set of eggs. If you look at the CMF content on new.zope.org
[1] you'll notice that it's relatively generic and sends people off to  
PiPI and/or svn.zope.org to find the actual packages. This content can  
be copied and pasted pretty much unchanged.

jens

[1] http://new.zope.org/projects/zope-application-server/zope2/cmf



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[Martijn Faassen-2]

Andreas Jung wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I am currently working on the plan for the www.zope.org relaunch.
>
> Rough ideas are documented here:
>
> http://www.coactivate.org/projects/wwwzopeorg-relaunch/project-home
>
> Regarding the Zope3/ZTK and CMF subprojects: what are the plans
> of those subjects for moving to dedicated microsites. We have basically two
> options:
>
>  - microsites based on Sphinx
>  - something based on Plone

For Zope 3 I don't know.

For ZTK, we already have a site based on Sphinx, and it's hosted here:

http://docs.zope.org/zopetoolkit/

A while back I proposed a plan for improving the structuring of this site:

https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2009-September/037790.html

but that's I think internal to that URL.

Regards,

Martijn

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