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CRUD table form problemsIt's not perfect HTML, but it doesn't have to be, and comes from a JSP.
In any event, it's supposed to have two buttons, an "update" and "delete" button. However, that doesn't seem to work because the two buttons seem to overlap. So, maybe I should have a "delete" link? How would that work? Or, is there a better way? thanks, Thufir <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"> <title>JSP Page</title> </head> <body> <br> <br> <br> <table> <tr> <form accept-charset='UNKNOWN' method='get' action='/ Assignment' enctype='application/x-www-form-urlencoded'> <td title='update'> <input name='method' type='hidden' value='update'> <input name='id' type='submit' value='0'> </td> <td> <input name='title' type='text' value='#1: Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto'> </td> <td> <input name='link' type='text' value=' http://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Tyranny-Conservative-Mark- Levin/dp/1416562850/ref=pd_zg_rss_ts_b_book_1 '> </td> <td> <form accept-charset='UNKNOWN' enctype='application/x-www-form- urlencoded'><input type='submit' value='delete'></form> </td> </form> </tr> <tr> <form accept-charset='UNKNOWN' method='get' action='/ Assignment' enctype='application/x-www-form-urlencoded'> <td title='update'> <input name='method' type='hidden' value='update'> <input name='id' type='submit' value='1'> </td> <td> <input name='title' type='text' value='#2: Act Like a Lady, Think Like a Man: What Men Really Think About Love, Relationships, Intimacy, and Commitment'> </td> <td> <input name='link' type='text' value=' http://www.amazon.com/Act-Like-Lady-Think-Relationships/ dp/0061728977/ref=pd_zg_rss_ts_b_book_2 '> </td> <td> <form accept-charset='UNKNOWN' enctype='application/x-www-form- urlencoded'><input type='submit' value='delete'></form> </td> </form> </tr> </table> </body> </html> |
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] CRUD table form problemsThufir wrote:
> It's not perfect HTML, but it doesn't have to be, and comes from a JSP. This is not an authoring support list, and, in particular it is not a one about how HTML should be rendered. (It's for development of the HTML standard and some related standards, but not styling or scripting.) However, your HTML is syntactically invalid, so you should either run it through a validator, such as validator.w3.org, and fix the errors, or should use a tool like HTML Tidy, that attempts to guess a valid HTML equivalent. If it still fails, try asking on in an authoring support forum. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. |
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] CRUD table form problemsOn Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:00:53 +0000, David Woolley wrote:
> Thufir wrote: >> It's not perfect HTML, but it doesn't have to be, and comes from a JSP. > > This is not an authoring support list, and, in particular it is not a > one about how HTML should be rendered. (It's for development of the HTML > standard and some related standards, but not styling or scripting.) > > However, your HTML is syntactically invalid, so you should either run it > through a validator, such as validator.w3.org, and fix the errors, or > should use a tool like HTML Tidy, that attempts to guess a valid HTML > equivalent. If it still fails, try asking on in an authoring support > forum. On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:00:53 +0000, David Woolley wrote: > If it still fails, try asking on in an authoring support > forum. > The HTML was sufficiently valid for my purposes, it was more a matter of knowing how to use the tags. (The HTML was generated by Jakarta ECS, BTW.) Usually I can find the right forum for a question, but not this time. Would you point me to one or two, pls? thanks, Thufir |
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> The HTML was sufficiently valid for my purposes, it was more a matter > of > knowing how to use the tags. (The HTML was generated by Jakarta ECS, > BTW.) > Am I the only one on a "standards" mailing list that finds this statement preposterous? I hope that whomever Thufir finds to answer his question provides a sufficiently useful answer - it might not be the *right* answer of course, but it might suffice. Head back down... JF |
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] CRUD table form problemsWell, not "preposterous", but possibly oxymoronic.
Thufir, John's point (if it is unclear) is that there is no such concept as "sufficiently valid"; either a document is valid, or it is not : there are no in-between states (/tertium non datur/). Of course, there are certain projects currently underway that seek to re-define "valid", but that is another matter entirely ... Philip TAYLOR -------- John Foliot - WATS.ca wrote: >> The HTML was sufficiently valid for my purposes, it was more a matter >> of >> knowing how to use the tags. (The HTML was generated by Jakarta ECS, >> BTW.) >> > > > Am I the only one on a "standards" mailing list that finds this statement preposterous? I hope that whomever Thufir finds to answer his question provides a sufficiently useful answer - it might not be the *right* answer of course, but it might suffice. > > Head back down... > > JF > > |
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] CRUD table form problemsOn 26 Mar 2009, at 17:08, Philip & Le Khanh wrote: > Well, not "preposterous", but possibly oxymoronic. > Thufir, John's point (if it is unclear) is that there > is no such concept as "sufficiently valid"; either > a document is valid, or it is not : there are no > in-between states (/tertium non datur/). Of course, > there are certain projects currently underway that > seek to re-define "valid", but that is another matter > entirely ... > > Philip TAYLOR > -------- If he didn't regret his mistake in emailing this list before, he probably does now. -- Stephen |
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] CRUD table form problemsOn Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM, John Foliot - WATS.ca <foliot@...> wrote:
Am I the only one on a "standards" mailing list that finds this statement preposterous? I hope that whomever Thufir finds to answer his question provides a sufficiently useful answer - it might not be the *right* answer of course, but it might suffice. I'm confident you aren't the only one. Folks tend to wander onto this list rather frequently thinking that they will find help with basic HTML questions. They do not understand that this is a list for advanced practitioners that are helping to develop and refine new standards for HTML---and they may have been given incorrect advice to ask questions here. These folks are often not up-to-speed on even basic concepts such as what "validation" means in the context of producing language standards (e.g. the idea that a given string is either a sentential form in a given grammar---i.e. "valid"---or it is not.) This is unavoidable unless we make this a moderated list---which means some poor soul has to volunteer their time to read every posting and pass judgment on it. Unlikely to happen. Fortunately, there are usually people such as David that make very gracious replies in an attempt to help those who wander in discover that they are "in the wrong room" in a face-saving way, and may even try to point them in the right direction. I wonder if it would be possible to deploy an auto-responder that directs posters to a web form Thank you for your posting to www-html@.... To help us direct your question properly, please select one: Is your question: ( ) a general question seeking help with HTML? ( ) posting by an HTML expert that is contributing to a discussion of new HTML standards? If the user selects the first option, they can be redirected to a very polite message indicating that they've stumbled on the wrong forum for their purposes. We might even suggest keywords they could use to search for a better forum. Only if the users selects the second option would their post appear. Not only would this cut down on off-topic traffic, it would help folks like Thufir to find a more appropriate venue for their questions, and avoid embarrassment for all. I do, recognize, though that by bringing up a meta-discussion of how best to handle traffic on the list, I am myself engaging in an off-topic posting---and risking starting an whole off-topic thread in which the pros/cons of various strategies are debated. Though just in the time I've been typing this, I'm realizing that that thread is already underway. So, what the heck. Regards, Phill > > The HTML was sufficiently valid for my purposes, it was more a matter > of > knowing how to use the tags. (The HTML was generated by Jakarta ECS, > BTW.) >
-- Phill Conrad, Dept. of Computer Science University of California, Santa Barbara Joint Appointment: College of Creative Studies (www.ccs.ucsb.edu) pconrad@..., www.cs.ucsb.edu/~pconrad |
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] CRUD table form problemsOn Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:21, Phillip Conrad <pconrad.cis@...> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:47 AM, John Foliot - WATS.ca <foliot@...> > wrote: >> >> Am I the only one on a "standards" mailing list that finds this statement >> preposterous? I hope that whomever Thufir finds to answer his question >> provides a sufficiently useful answer - it might not be the *right* answer >> of course, but it might suffice. > > I'm confident you aren't the only one. Folks tend to wander onto this > list rather frequently thinking that they will find help with basic HTML > questions. > > They do not understand that this is a list for advanced practitioners that > are helping to develop and refine new standards for HTML---and they may have > been given incorrect advice to ask questions here. > > These folks are often not up-to-speed on even basic concepts such as what > "validation" means in the context of producing language standards (e.g. the > idea that a given string is either a sentential form in a given > grammar---i.e. "valid"---or it is not.) I think this might have something to do with the wording of the current HTML 4.01 REC: "Public discussion on HTML features takes place on www-html@... (archives of www-html@...)." That might be misleading. I doubt the spec would be updated just to make a change for that since errors by people like Thufir don't happen terribly often. Here is my proposed addendum, disregarding what I just wrote: "Please note that it is not intended to be a source of help regarding HTML. There are a number of message boards with users who have more time to address such issues." It's just a thought, but it might help. > This is unavoidable unless we make this a moderated list---which means some > poor soul has to volunteer their time to read every posting and pass > judgment on it. Unlikely to happen. I hope this doesn't happen, especially since that would require changing the HTML 4.01 REC anyway. -- Technology can be used for good or evil. Remember that and determine which side pays the most, taking into account the fact that payment isn't always in the form of money. |
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Re: [OFF TOPIC] CRUD table form problemsOn 3/26/09, Phillip Conrad <pconrad.cis@...> wrote:
> I wonder if it would be possible to deploy an auto-responder that directs > posters to a web form > > Thank you for your posting to www-html@.... > To help us direct your question properly, please select one: > > Is your question: > ( ) a general question seeking help with HTML? > ( ) posting by an HTML expert that is contributing to a discussion > of new HTML standards? > ( ) a request for further explanation of a Validator warning or error message you received? Squeezed in between the two..? :) Cindy - :: - Olmstead Decision * 10 Years * June 22, 2009 http://claimid.com/Butterfly Georgia Voices That Count, 2005 Talking Rock, GA, USA |
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