Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer 7280

[pibsnow]

I purchased a new printer for my PC so I can have better quality
scanning & printing my photos. However, I can't sync my Palm TX with my
PC ever since I installed my new printer. I gets hung up on the sync at
the beginning of the process. Of course the HP people were no help to
me. Help, please!

[stephen.murgan]

Try closing or disabling the HP crapware that runs on startup. I have
found that most of that stuff is unnecessary to basic operation of the
printer.
 
Stephen

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Tungsten_T@...
[mailto:Tungsten_T@...] On Behalf Of pibsnow
        Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:08 PM
        To: Tungsten_T@...
        Subject: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo
printer 7280
       
       

        I purchased a new printer for my PC so I can have better quality

        scanning & printing my photos. However, I can't sync my Palm TX
with my
        PC ever since I installed my new printer. I gets hung up on the
sync at
        the beginning of the process. Of course the HP people were no
help to
        me. Help, please!
       
       

         



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[shadetitan]

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He is right that it isn't necessary most of the time, but you should test your
printer without it, just in case it doesn't work properly.

What is most likely happening (assuming it is the HP software) is that the HP
software that monitors your ink and paper levels in the printer scans all the
USB ports and when a new device connects it may grab the USB port temporarily
and thus HotSync can't grab the port to detect the Palm.

The Palm's are notorious for once they fail on the initial 'ready to sync'
message, they never resend it (most devices will retry a few times before
stopping).  This means that if the HP software grabs the port and checks to see
if it is an HP printer and tries to pass the port back to the system for other
software to detect, HotSync likely misses the initial sync request and thus
never starts.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tungsten_T@... [mailto:Tungsten_T@...] On Behalf
Of Murgan, Stephen (CCSHCN)
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:44 AM
To: Tungsten_T@...
Subject: RE: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer 7280

Try closing or disabling the HP crapware that runs on startup. I have found that
most of that stuff is unnecessary to basic operation of the printer.


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[pibsnow]

What is 'crapware'?
 
 
In a message dated 8/8/2008 3:19:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
stephen.murgan@... writes:

 
 
 
Try closing or disabling the HP crapware that runs on startup. I  have
found that most of that stuff is unnecessary to basic operation of  the
printer.

Stephen

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[mailto:_Tungsten_T@yahoogroTungste_ (mailto:Tungsten_T@...) ]  
On Behalf Of pibsnow
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 2:08 PM
To: _Tungsten_T@yahoogroTungste_ (mailto:Tungsten_T@...)
Subject:  [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo
printer  7280



I purchased a new printer for my PC so I can have better  quality

scanning & printing my photos. However, I can't sync my  Palm TX
with my
PC ever since I installed my new printer. I gets hung  up on the
sync at
the beginning of the process. Of course the HP people  were no
help to
me. Help, please!





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[shadetitan]

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That is his rather colorful term for the HP software.  Usually it is a puerile
way to describe badly written software that is largely unneeded.

Any of us who've worked in an office though, can see the usefulness of some of
those software features, though it tends to be rather bloated with pretty
graphics and such that are largely unneeded.

In particular the ability for the software to communicate with the printer and
tell you when a remote printers ink or paper is low before you start a task is
rather nice.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tungsten_T@... [mailto:Tungsten_T@...] On Behalf
Of pibs@...
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 6:11 PM
To: Tungsten_T@...
Subject: Re: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer 7280

What is 'crapware'?


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[stephen.murgan]

>> What is 'crapware'? <<
 
Um... try Google. Google is your friend...
 

>> That is his rather colorful term for the HP software. Usually it is a
puerile way to describe badly written software that is largely unneeded.
<<
 
You may color me puerile if you wish, but I am in good company, such as
ZDnet (http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo <http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo> ), cnet
(http://tinyurl.com/6btf45 <http://tinyurl.com/6btf45> ) and Lifehacker
(http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq <http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq> ) to name but a
few.
 
 
 >>  In particular the ability for the software to communicate with the
printer and tell you when a remote printers ink or paper is low before
you start a task is rather nice. <<
 
You're missing my point; those programs are installed - and often
running on startup - whether you need them or not.
 
One of my "ministries" is speeding up slow-running computers; nearly
every PC that I have worked on has unnecessary printer software running
on startup (along with Adobe Reader, Quicktime and several other
badly-behaved applications). Sometimes I find software for printers they
got rid of years ago!
 
Rarely-used functions have no business running on startup, particularly
as they can be run as needed. Running XP in  <512MB with a system tray
that takes up half the taskbar is a recipe for a slow-booting and
slow-running machine.


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[shadetitan]

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Your response to his question on 'crapware' is neither friendly nor helpful, but
alas, I fear arguing with you is pointless.

512Mb of RAM is very low, under it is certainly not considered to be what they
expect you to have.  That being said - you are correct that a less consumptive
system should be in place for drivers.  I fully agree that the HP software
should give the option for a base-bones just drivers install for smaller systems
as well as people who just don't use the extra features.

The applications are not badly behaved, they are coded very well most of the
time.  The quick-start applications I agree are not needed most of the time, but
this doesn't mean they are poorly written.  Right or wrong, it is simply a
matter of memory, a system with very low RAM has this issue, others do not.
This is getting off topic though, and has nothing to do with the question
originally posed.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tungsten_T@... [mailto:Tungsten_T@...] On Behalf
Of Murgan, Stephen (CCSHCN)
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:23 PM
To: Tungsten_T@...
Subject: RE: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer 7280

>> What is 'crapware'? <<
 
Um... try Google. Google is your friend...
 
>> That is his rather colorful term for the HP software. Usually it is a
puerile way to describe badly written software that is largely unneeded.
<<
 
You may color me puerile if you wish, but I am in good company, such as ZDnet
(http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo <http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo> ), cnet
(http://tinyurl.com/6btf45 <http://tinyurl.com/6btf45> ) and Lifehacker
(http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq <http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq> ) to name but a few.
 
 
 >>  In particular the ability for the software to communicate with the printer
and tell you when a remote printers ink or paper is low before you start a task
is rather nice. <<
 
You're missing my point; those programs are installed - and often running on
startup - whether you need them or not.
 
One of my "ministries" is speeding up slow-running computers; nearly every PC
that I have worked on has unnecessary printer software running on startup (along
with Adobe Reader, Quicktime and several other badly-behaved applications).
Sometimes I find software for printers they got rid of years ago!
 
Rarely-used functions have no business running on startup, particularly as they
can be run as needed. Running XP in  <512MB with a system tray that takes up
half the taskbar is a recipe for a slow-booting and slow-running machine.


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[pibsnow]

Fortunately, I have 2 GB of RAM and a 2 GB hard drive so I am not memory lacking. However, when I try to sync my PDA, it gets hung up on the first sync 'circle' and never proceeds beyond that. Thanks for responding but I'm still stuck in never-sync land!


Pat Bielecki, MSN, APRN/CNS, RNC
Clinical Development Specialist, Perinatal/Neonatal
Advocate Healthcare Corporation
Oak Brook, IL
847-384-3578 (Office)
847-384-3535 (Fax)


-----Original Message-----
From: David Wade Hagar <david.hagar@...>
To: Tungsten_T@...
Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 6:02 pm
Subject: RE: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer 7280






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Your response to his question on 'crapware' is neither friendly nor helpful, but
alas, I fear arguing with you is pointless.

512Mb of RAM is very low, under it is certainly not considered to be what they
expect you to have. That being said - you are correct that a less consumptive
system should be in place for drivers. I fully agree that the HP software
should give the option for a base-bones just drivers install for smaller systems
as well as people who just don't use the extra features.

The applications are not badly behaved, they are coded very well most of the
time. The quick-start applications I agree are not needed most of the time, but
this doesn't mean they are poorly written. Right or wrong, it is simply a
matter of memory, a system with very low RAM has this issue, others do not.
This is getting off topic though, and has nothing to do with the question
originally posed.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Tungsten_T@... [mailto:Tungsten_T@...] On Behalf
Of Murgan, Stephen (CCSHCN)
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:23 PM
To: Tungsten_T@...
Subject: RE: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer 7280

>> What is 'crapware'? <<

Um... try Google. Google is your friend...

>> That is his rather colorful term for the HP software. Usually it is a
puerile way to describe badly written software that is largely unneeded.
<<

You may color me puerile if you wish, but I am in good company, such as ZDnet
(http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo <http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo> ), cnet
(http://tinyurl.com/6btf45 <http://tinyurl.com/6btf45> ) and Lifehacker
(http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq <http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq> ) to name but a few.


>> In particular the ability for the software to communicate with the printer
and tell you when a remote printers ink or paper is low before you start a task
is rather nice. <<

You're missing my point; those programs are installed - and often running on
startup - whether you need them or not.

One of my "ministries" is speeding up slow-running computers; nearly every PC
that I have worked on has unnecessary printer software running on startup (along
with Adobe Reader, Quicktime and several other badly-behaved applications).
Sometimes I find software for printers they got rid of years ago!

Rarely-used functions have no business running on startup, particularly as they
can be run as needed. Running XP in <512MB with a system tray that takes up
half the taskbar is a recipe for a slow-booting and slow-running machine.

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[Rich Peterson-3]

Having read the suggested reasons why Hotsync-ing is so difficult for my T5,
I tried some experiments. First I disconnected all peripherals into USB
ports. Then I inserted my cable into each one of the 4 different ports in
sequence. Sure enough Only one port worked. Since I don't keep my cable
plugged in all the time (nor the others since it is a laptop that does some
traveling) I noted that port. While the other peripherals are not picky
about the ports they are plugged into, they don't matter.  But I surmise
that the port I originally set up the sync is the only port that will work.
I hope this suggestion works for you and lets you do a complete sync
operation.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:05 AM, <pibs@...> wrote:

>   Fortunately, I have 2 GB of RAM and a 2 GB hard drive so I am not memory
> lacking. However, when I try to sync my PDA, it gets hung up on the first
> sync 'circle' and never proceeds beyond that. Thanks for responding but I'm
> still stuck in never-sync land!
>
> Pat Bielecki, MSN, APRN/CNS, RNC
> Clinical Development Specialist, Perinatal/Neonatal
> Advocate Healthcare Corporation
> Oak Brook, IL
> 847-384-3578 (Office)
> 847-384-3535 (Fax)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Wade Hagar <david.hagar@... <david.hagar%40gmail.com>>
> To: Tungsten_T@... <Tungsten_T%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 6:02 pm
> Subject: RE: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer
> 7280
>
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> Your response to his question on 'crapware' is neither friendly nor
> helpful, but
> alas, I fear arguing with you is pointless.
>
> 512Mb of RAM is very low, under it is certainly not considered to be what
> they
> expect you to have. That being said - you are correct that a less
> consumptive
> system should be in place for drivers. I fully agree that the HP software
> should give the option for a base-bones just drivers install for smaller
> systems
> as well as people who just don't use the extra features.
>
> The applications are not badly behaved, they are coded very well most of
> the
> time. The quick-start applications I agree are not needed most of the time,
> but
> this doesn't mean they are poorly written. Right or wrong, it is simply a
> matter of memory, a system with very low RAM has this issue, others do not.
> This is getting off topic though, and has nothing to do with the question
> originally posed.
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Tungsten_T@... <Tungsten_T%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> Tungsten_T@... <Tungsten_T%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf
> Of Murgan, Stephen (CCSHCN)
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:23 PM
> To: Tungsten_T@... <Tungsten_T%40yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer
> 7280
>
> >> What is 'crapware'? <<
>
> Um... try Google. Google is your friend...
>
> >> That is his rather colorful term for the HP software. Usually it is a
> puerile way to describe badly written software that is largely unneeded.
> <<
>
> You may color me puerile if you wish, but I am in good company, such as
> ZDnet
> (http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo <http://tinyurl.com/2ucpdo> ), cnet
> (http://tinyurl.com/6btf45 <http://tinyurl.com/6btf45> ) and Lifehacker
> (http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq <http://tinyurl.com/yovaxq> ) to name but a
> few.
>
> >> In particular the ability for the software to communicate with the
> printer
> and tell you when a remote printers ink or paper is low before you start a
> task
> is rather nice. <<
>
> You're missing my point; those programs are installed - and often running
> on
> startup - whether you need them or not.
>
> One of my "ministries" is speeding up slow-running computers; nearly every
> PC
> that I have worked on has unnecessary printer software running on startup
> (along
> with Adobe Reader, Quicktime and several other badly-behaved applications).
> Sometimes I find software for printers they got rid of years ago!
>
> Rarely-used functions have no business running on startup, particularly as
> they
> can be run as needed. Running XP in <512MB with a system tray that takes up
> half the taskbar is a recipe for a slow-booting and slow-running machine.
>
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>

--
Dick n SB


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[shadetitan]

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Did you try to shut down the HP software before syncing?  When did syncing stop
exactly?

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From: Tungsten_T@... [mailto:Tungsten_T@...] On Behalf
Of pibs@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 7:05 AM
To: Tungsten_T@...
Subject: Re: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer 7280

Fortunately, I have 2 GB of RAM and a 2 GB hard drive so I am not memory
lacking. However, when I try to sync my PDA, it gets hung up on the first sync
'circle' and never proceeds beyond that. Thanks for responding but I'm still
stuck in never-sync land!


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[shadetitan]

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I found something similar with my T3, I completely forgot about it as well.
Yes, sometimes only the main port will work if they share an IRQ or other
resources.

In my T3, it only synced if the cradle was plugged into the first port and
not into any hub.  Sorry, completely forgot.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tungsten_T@... [mailto:Tungsten_T@...] On
> Behalf Of Rich Peterson
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 10:26 AM
> To: Tungsten_T@...
> Subject: Re: [Tungsten_T] Can't sync Palm after adding HP Photo printer
> 7280
>
> Having read the suggested reasons why Hotsync-ing is so difficult for my
> T5,
> I tried some experiments. First I disconnected all peripherals into USB
> ports. Then I inserted my cable into each one of the 4 different ports in
> sequence. Sure enough Only one port worked. Since I don't keep my cable
> plugged in all the time (nor the others since it is a laptop that does
> some
> traveling) I noted that port. While the other peripherals are not picky
> about the ports they are plugged into, they don't matter.  But I surmise
> that the port I originally set up the sync is the only port that will
> work.
> I hope this suggestion works for you and lets you do a complete sync
> operation.

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