Canadian singer, 19, killed by coyotes while hiking

[Roleigh Martin-2]

http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdoors/66927302.html

News to me we need to worry about coyotes (other than food storage
normal handling rules).

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A Canadian woman has died from injuries sustained when she was attacked
by two coyotes while hiking in eastern Canada.
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[James D. Marco-2]

Roleigh,
        Wow, I always considered them pests.
        My thoughts only . . .
                jdm
         
At 01:14 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote:


>http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdoors/66927302.html 
>
>News to me we need to worry about coyotes (other than food storage normal handling rules).

[gary coleman]

sort of why last spring when i did a short solo, i carried a .380.  not so much coyotes, but there are getting to be more coydogs in the area.


     

[Elizabeth Royal]

Do you think having something like bear spray or pepper spray would have been effective in preventing this attack?

--- On Wed, 10/28/09, gary coleman <gacoleman@...> wrote:

From: gary coleman <gacoleman@...>
Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Canadian singer, 19,  killed by coyotes while hiking
To: BackpackingLight@...
Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 6:53 PM






 




   
                  sort of why last spring when i did a short solo, i carried a .380.  not so much coyotes, but there are getting to be more coydogs in the area.


     
 

     

   
   
       
         
       
       








       


       
       


     

[Roleigh Martin-2]

I would think the issue would be how big is the pack?  How do packs attack,
from a semi-circle, layered semi-circle ranks?  All at once, staggered?
From down-wind, up-wind?  It's one thing when it's one bear, another thing
when it's 8 coyotes coming at you 4 at a time, each from a different compass
point, and each backed up by a 2nd coyote.  I would personally think you'd
quickly run out of spray.  Of course if that is all you have, you'd want to
use it.  I'm no expert, the closest I've come to coyotes is at the MN Zoo
and solid glass separated them from us.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Elizabeth Royal <elizabethflylady@...
> wrote:

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>   Do you think having something like bear spray or pepper spray would have
> been effective in preventing this attack?
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> --- On *Wed, 10/28/09, gary coleman <gacoleman@...>* wrote:
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> From: gary coleman <gacoleman@...>
> Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Canadian singer, 19, killed by coyotes
> while hiking
> To: BackpackingLight@...
> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 6:53 PM
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>   sort of why last spring when i did a short solo, i carried a .380.  not
> so much coyotes, but there are getting to be more coydogs in the area.
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[ed_rodriguez52]

Guess that why I used to carry an ice ax as a walking stick. If am going down, it won't be without a fight. I wonder what time of year this was and what was the food source for the coyotes during this time.  
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roleigh Martin <marti124@...>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:41:24
To: <BackpackingLight@...>
Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Canadian singer, 19, killed by coyotes while
        hiking

I would think the issue would be how big is the pack?  How do packs attack,
from a semi-circle, layered semi-circle ranks?  All at once, staggered?
From down-wind, up-wind?  It's one thing when it's one bear, another thing
when it's 8 coyotes coming at you 4 at a time, each from a different compass
point, and each backed up by a 2nd coyote.  I would personally think you'd
quickly run out of spray.  Of course if that is all you have, you'd want to
use it.  I'm no expert, the closest I've come to coyotes is at the MN Zoo
and solid glass separated them from us.

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Elizabeth Royal <elizabethflylady@...
> wrote:

>
>
>   Do you think having something like bear spray or pepper spray would have
> been effective in preventing this attack?
>
> --- On *Wed, 10/28/09, gary coleman <gacoleman@...>* wrote:
>
>
> From: gary coleman <gacoleman@...>
> Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Canadian singer, 19, killed by coyotes
> while hiking
> To: BackpackingLight@...
> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 6:53 PM
>
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>
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>   sort of why last spring when i did a short solo, i carried a .380.  not
> so much coyotes, but there are getting to be more coydogs in the area.
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[James D. Marco-2]

Likely not very effective. Coyotes are cowards, basically.
They will attack from behind you. I have seen my grandfather
grab his 30-06 and kill one while they harassed a cow. I stood
and watched from an embankment about 120 yards away.
A few would weave in front...making threats, but not really
attacking. The ones in the rear of the animal would dart in
and bite on the rear legs...looking to hamstring her, I think.
They were quite focused...and he got pretty close, within 50
yards.  He got the one in the rump, the others jumped and
started running off.  Two or three stopped but started running
again when he finished off the wounded one.  
        This was in the Catskills of New York.
        He called a vet for the cow.... hmmm....I believe he was
a bit worried about rabies...
        My thoughts only . . .
                jdm    
At 03:14 PM 10/28/2009, you wrote:


>Do you think having something like bear spray or pepper spray would have been effective in preventing this attack?

[DonL]

And just in time for a real Halloween scare;
<http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2009/09/22/coyote-wolf.html>

[Cara Lin Bridgman]

I've experienced this behavior with feral dogs.

CL

James D. Marco wrote:
> A few would weave in front...making threats, but not really
> attacking. The ones in the rear of the animal would dart in
> and bite on the rear legs...

[Roleigh Martin-2]

I found this link of interest.

http://coyotebytes.org/

[Johan van Dijk-4]

Without any intention of disrespect for the victim etc....but

Cowardice is a human definition isn't it?
I mean they prevent injury while getting results (food)...  but this will
probably go way off topic then

Sorry, get back into lurking mode..

Grtz Johan

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intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.

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[Guru Khalsa]

Just out of curiosity, I checked youtube.  She is actually pretty good.  I found this song and another song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LqW3DzkDeY&feature=related

GB

--- In BackpackingLight@..., Roleigh Martin <marti124@...> wrote:

>
> http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdoors/66927302.html
>
> News to me we need to worry about coyotes (other than food storage
> normal handling rules).
>
> Sent to you by Roleigh Martin via Google Reader: Canadian singer, 19,
> killed by coyotes while hiking via StarTribune.com rss feed on 10/28/09
> A Canadian woman has died from injuries sustained when she was attacked
> by two coyotes while hiking in eastern Canada.
> Things you can do from here:
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>

[William Comer]

I have a bad ferrel dog problem in the sections of the North Country/
Buckeye Trail that I am a maintainer on. It didn't just start I have used
that area for 30 years and it has always been a concern there ! Well
intentioned or lazy folks won't take a dog to the pound they just turn it
loose and think it will fend just fine for itself ! It makes someone else
have to "take care" of the problem animal !

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 1:53 PM, gary coleman <gacoleman@...> wrote:

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> sort of why last spring when i did a short solo, i carried a .380.  not so
> much coyotes, but there are getting to be more coydogs in the area.
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