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Cannot find parrallel programming cable

by digitalguitar2000 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello all,

I just got my brand new OOPic II+ in the mail along with a parallel
programming cable from Acroname in Colorado.  I downloaded the IDE
from oopic.com (V5.0.1) and I am running it on an IBM laptop running
Windows XP Professional.  I downloaded the DriverLINX Port I/O Driver
for Win95 and WinNT and installed it as I read in an article on the
net that this was required.

My problem is that when I go to Tools -> Cable Configuration -> Find
Parrallel Cable, I get a message box telling me the cable is not found.

I tried doing a search on this topic in the group but I didn't get any
results.  I can't believe I'm the only guy having this problem...
anyone have any ideas for me?

Thanks!

Dave





 
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Re: Cannot find parrallel programming cable

by rtstofer :: Rate this Message:

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--- In oopic@..., "digitalguitar2000" <dave.mcneil@...> wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> I just got my brand new OOPic II+ in the mail along with a parallel
> programming cable from Acroname in Colorado.  I downloaded the IDE
> from oopic.com (V5.0.1) and I am running it on an IBM laptop running
> Windows XP Professional.  I downloaded the DriverLINX Port I/O Driver
> for Win95 and WinNT and installed it as I read in an article on the
> net that this was required.
>
> My problem is that when I go to Tools -> Cable Configuration -> Find
> Parrallel Cable, I get a message box telling me the cable is not found.
>
> I tried doing a search on this topic in the group but I didn't get any
> results.  I can't believe I'm the only guy having this problem...
> anyone have any ideas for me?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dave
>


There are design issues with IBM labtops and their parallel port.  Our
moderator, Dennis Clark, has posted a file 'activeCable.jpg'
documenting a scheme for getting the IBM to work.  Basically, you
build a new parallel cable with an IC inside.

But, why would you want to use a parallel cable in the first place?
The good news about the II+ is the part where you can use a serial
cable and this implies that SOME USB Serial cables will also work.  If
you try this, the USB cable MUST be set up as COM1..COM4.  Higher port
numbers won't work.  One USB->Serial cable, known to work, is
http://www.cablesnmor.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=165 
You're going to want serial anyway.  Eventually you will have a
project that couples the PC and the OOPic.

You need a serial dongle (level shifter) to connect between the II+
and the serial cable.  There are a lot of them around but I like
http://www.pololu.com/products/pololu/0126/  I have also used
http://www.awce.com/rs1.htm

From http://www.oopic.com/dloadp.html you will see that port95nt.exe
is the preferred parallel port driver for WinXP.  Not to say that what
you have won't work but it you run out of ideas you might try the
factory recommended approach.  But, it still won't work on an IBM
laptop without the active cable adapter.

I have pretty much given up on parallel programming but it does have
an advantage: it will always write to the EEPROM without the
cooperation of the OOPic.  When the OOPic gets stuck, it won't always
accept serial commands and you have to clear the "cosmic wedgie" -
search here for details.

BIG HINT: ALWAYS but oopic.delay=500 as the first executable statement
in sub main().  This will allow the OOPic to accept serial commands
after reset before it gets jammed up by an errant program.

Good Luck!
Richard






 
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Re: Cannot find parrallel programming cable

by ooPIC Tech Support :: Rate this Message:

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The code you need for the ooPIC IDE is the port95nt.exe installer that
is on the install page.  I didn't come up with that, so I'm not sure if
that is the very same one that you mention - It may well be.
Unfortunately, IBM laptops seem to top the list as units with problems
dealing with the parallel port cable.  Search back throught the archives
for the "active cable" parallel port cable for how to create a cable
that will work with all hardware.  I have the design in my book for this
as well.  If you have another computer, try that one out to check the
cable, and program install, just to be sure.  You aren't finished yet,
we can get it to work.

DLC

digitalguitar2000 wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I just got my brand new OOPic II+ in the mail along with a parallel
> programming cable from Acroname in Colorado.  I downloaded the IDE
> from oopic.com (V5.0.1) and I am running it on an IBM laptop running
> Windows XP Professional.  I downloaded the DriverLINX Port I/O Driver
> for Win95 and WinNT and installed it as I read in an article on the
> net that this was required.
>
> My problem is that when I go to Tools -> Cable Configuration -> Find
> Parrallel Cable, I get a message box telling me the cable is not found.
>
> I tried doing a search on this topic in the group but I didn't get any
> results.  I can't believe I'm the only guy having this problem...
> anyone have any ideas for me?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>

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Re: Re: Cannot find parrallel programming cable

by ooPIC Tech Support :: Rate this Message:

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DOH!

   Richard is way correct.  Go to Acroname, Sparkfun, or whereever and
get a RS232 dongle.  They cost about $10 to $15 and are simple to
connect.  With these you can use the serial cable download which is
faster and more reliable.  If you are an electronics type, you can build
the "active cable", if not, grab one of those RS232 converter kits/boards.

DLC

rtstofer wrote:

> --- In oopic@..., "digitalguitar2000" <dave.mcneil@...> wrote:
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I just got my brand new OOPic II+ in the mail along with a parallel
>>programming cable from Acroname in Colorado.  I downloaded the IDE
>>from oopic.com (V5.0.1) and I am running it on an IBM laptop running
>>Windows XP Professional.  I downloaded the DriverLINX Port I/O Driver
>>for Win95 and WinNT and installed it as I read in an article on the
>>net that this was required.
>>
>>My problem is that when I go to Tools -> Cable Configuration -> Find
>>Parrallel Cable, I get a message box telling me the cable is not found.
>>
>>I tried doing a search on this topic in the group but I didn't get any
>>results.  I can't believe I'm the only guy having this problem...
>>anyone have any ideas for me?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Dave
>>
>
>
>
> There are design issues with IBM labtops and their parallel port.  Our
> moderator, Dennis Clark, has posted a file 'activeCable.jpg'
> documenting a scheme for getting the IBM to work.  Basically, you
> build a new parallel cable with an IC inside.
>
> But, why would you want to use a parallel cable in the first place?
> The good news about the II+ is the part where you can use a serial
> cable and this implies that SOME USB Serial cables will also work.  If
> you try this, the USB cable MUST be set up as COM1..COM4.  Higher port
> numbers won't work.  One USB->Serial cable, known to work, is
> http://www.cablesnmor.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=165 
> You're going to want serial anyway.  Eventually you will have a
> project that couples the PC and the OOPic.
>
> You need a serial dongle (level shifter) to connect between the II+
> and the serial cable.  There are a lot of them around but I like
> http://www.pololu.com/products/pololu/0126/  I have also used
> http://www.awce.com/rs1.htm
>
>>From http://www.oopic.com/dloadp.html you will see that port95nt.exe
> is the preferred parallel port driver for WinXP.  Not to say that what
> you have won't work but it you run out of ideas you might try the
> factory recommended approach.  But, it still won't work on an IBM
> laptop without the active cable adapter.
>
> I have pretty much given up on parallel programming but it does have
> an advantage: it will always write to the EEPROM without the
> cooperation of the OOPic.  When the OOPic gets stuck, it won't always
> accept serial commands and you have to clear the "cosmic wedgie" -
> search here for details.
>
> BIG HINT: ALWAYS but oopic.delay=500 as the first executable statement
> in sub main().  This will allow the OOPic to accept serial commands
> after reset before it gets jammed up by an errant program.
>
> Good Luck!
> Richard
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>

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===================================================
Dennis Clark    ooPIC Technical Support
===================================================


 
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