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Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

by Pawel Kot :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

As requested by Jc2k on IRC I'm posting here details.

I'm trying to synchronize contacts from Nokia 6230i to HP iPAQ 514
(which is WM6 device). I followed all instructions placed on synce.org
on Hardy and everything seems to work fine. However there are two
problems:
1. Polish (accented) characters are not properly transfered (ie Paweł
gets Pawe?) but I think this is opensync (or msynctool) problem in
general as I remember having the same problem with syncml plugin as
well
2. Not all contact details are transferred. It's even worse: default
phone type is not transferred. By default I mean: enter phone number,
choose save, enter name, choose ok. Some 90% of my contacts use that
type.

Now more detailes on 2nd point. When synced gnokii-sync and file-sync,
sample contact looks as follows:
BEGIN:VCARD
VERSION:2.1
FN:Test2
N:;Test2;;;
TEL;VOICE:501123456
END:VCARD

Additionally there are few more contact types that do not sync:
TEL;WORK:12345678
TEL;HOME;12345678

Logs from synchronization of file-sync (containing just the entry
above) and synce-opensync-plugin (empty contacts list) are at
http://tfuj.pl/osync/
synce.log comes from:
synce-sync-engine >synce.log 2>&1

Any hints what should get fixed to get all numbers from Nokia to get
synced? Syncing gnokii-sync to file-sync is not a problem so I suspect
something in synce plugin should be changed.

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Parent Message unknown Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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Hi,

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 20:42, Dr J A Gow <J.A.Gow@...> wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 20:35 +0200, Pawel Kot wrote:
>> 2. Not all contact details are transferred. It's even worse: default
>> phone type is not transferred. By default I mean: enter phone number,
>> choose save, enter name, choose ok. Some 90% of my contacts use that
>> type.
>
> I'll have a look at your logfiles to see if I can highlight the problem.
> However, first can you let me know the Opensync version? There is a
> known problem with Opensync 0.3x series and phone numbers - I refuse to
> fix it until Opensync get their schema in order as otherwise I will only
> end up chasing my tail. I believe 0.2x should be OK.

Sorry for not mentioning that. I don't think Ubuntu provides 0.3x
version. This is 0.22. Exact package versions are:
ii  libopensync0              0.22-2
Synchronisation framework for email/pdas/and more
ii  libopensync0-dev          0.22-2                    Headers and
static libraries for libopensync
ii  opensync-module-python    0.22-1                    Python module
for OpenSync
ii  opensync-plugin-file      0.22-2                    Opensync file plugin
ii  opensync-plugin-synce     0.12-0ubuntu0~ppa1        SynCE plugin
for OpenSync
ii  opensync-plugin-syncml    0.22-2                    Opensync SyncML plugin
ii  python-opensync           0.22-2                    Python
bindings to the opensync synchronisation engine

take care,
pkot
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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

by Dr J A Gow-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 20:46 +0200, Pawel Kot wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 20:42, Dr J A Gow <J.A.Gow@...> wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 20:35 +0200, Pawel Kot wrote:
> >> 2. Not all contact details are transferred. It's even worse: default
> >> phone type is not transferred. By default I mean: enter phone number,
> >> choose save, enter name, choose ok. Some 90% of my contacts use that
> >> type.
> >
> > I'll have a look at your logfiles to see if I can highlight the problem.
> > However, first can you let me know the Opensync version? There is a
> > known problem with Opensync 0.3x series and phone numbers - I refuse to
> > fix it until Opensync get their schema in order as otherwise I will only
> > end up chasing my tail. I believe 0.2x should be OK.
>
> Sorry for not mentioning that. I don't think Ubuntu provides 0.3x
> version. This is 0.22. Exact package versions are:
> ii  libopensync0              0.22-2
> Synchronisation framework for email/pdas/and more
> ii  libopensync0-dev          0.22-2                    Headers and
> static libraries for libopensync
> ii  opensync-module-python    0.22-1                    Python module
> for OpenSync
> ii  opensync-plugin-file      0.22-2                    Opensync file plugin
> ii  opensync-plugin-synce     0.12-0ubuntu0~ppa1        SynCE plugin
> for OpenSync
> ii  opensync-plugin-syncml    0.22-2                    Opensync SyncML plugin
> ii  python-opensync           0.22-2                    Python
> bindings to the opensync synchronisation engine
>
> take care,
> pko
> t

I'm starting to get interested in this one since it seems to affect
0.2x. Can anyone else confirm if they have seen this issue?

        John.



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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

by Pawel Kot :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

2008/8/17 Pawel Kot <gnokii@...>:
> 2. Not all contact details are transferred. It's even worse: default
> phone type is not transferred. By default I mean: enter phone number,
> choose save, enter name, choose ok. Some 90% of my contacts use that
> type.

Small update. This is similiar problem to:
http://opensync.org/ticket/605

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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

by Dr J A Gow-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 20:51 +0200, Pawel Kot wrote:

> Hi,
>
> 2008/8/17 Pawel Kot <gnokii@...>:
> > 2. Not all contact details are transferred. It's even worse: default
> > phone type is not transferred. By default I mean: enter phone number,
> > choose save, enter name, choose ok. Some 90% of my contacts use that
> > type.
>
> Small update. This is similiar problem to:
> http://opensync.org/ticket/605
>

Hmm, I'll check this one too. I would be surprised if such a serious
error in our XML transforms had gone unnoticed for so long.

        John.


> take care,
> pkot


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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

by Pawel Kot :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 20:51, Dr J A Gow <J.A.Gow@...> wrote:
> I'm starting to get interested in this one since it seems to affect
> 0.2x. Can anyone else confirm if they have seen this issue?

You may try to sync synce with file pluing and then add to a file
plugin directory the vcard file I posted in the first email. It should
be reproducible.

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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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Hi,

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 20:52, Dr J A Gow <J.A.Gow@...> wrote:
> Hmm, I'll check this one too. I would be surprised if such a serious
> error in our XML transforms had gone unnoticed for so long.

I looked more closely. Here's appropriate snipplet of the log:
008-08-17 19:32:33,808 DEBUG engine.airsync.AirsyncServer :
_ProcessSync: converting item to airsync, source is
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<contact>
  <FormattedName>
    <Content>Test2</Content>
  </FormattedName>
  <Name>
    <FirstName>Test2</FirstName>
  </Name>
  <Telephone>
    <Content>501123456</Content>
    <Type>VOICE</Type>
  </Telephone>
</contact>

2008-08-17 19:32:33,808 DEBUG engine.airsync.AirsyncServer :
_ProcessSync: converting item to airsync, result is
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<AS:ApplicationData
xmlns:AS="http://synce.org/formats/airsync_wm5/airsync"
xmlns:C1="http://synce.org/formats/airsync_wm5/contacts"
xmlns:C2="http://synce.org/formats/airsync_wm5/contacts2">
  <C1:FileAs>Test2</C1:FileAs>
  <C1:FirstName>Test2</C1:FirstName>
[...]

Number is not propagated to this airsync format. Then I looked at
/usr/share/pyshared/SyncEngine/formats/contact-to-airsync.xml. What we
have here is handling of:
Telephone[Type='HOME'][Type='FAX']
Telephone[Type='WORK'][Type='FAX']
Telephone[Type='HOME' and Type='VOICE']
Telephone[Type='WORK' and Type='VOICE']
Telephone[Type='CAR']
Telephone[Type='CELL']
Telephone[Type='PAGER']
Telephone[Type='Company']
Telephone[Type='Radio']

IMHO:
 - WORK/HOME without subtype should be treated as VOICE.
 - Telephone[Type='VOICE'] with no other subtype should be mapped for
something. I don't know XML Schema for Contact on WM6 devices but if
there's just what's shown in the log available (ie. no general/default
phone number), I'd suggest map it into C1:MobilePhoneNumber (or using
gui/cli attempt the user interaction to ask for the type).

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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

by Pawel Kot :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 22:26, Pawel Kot <gnokii@...> wrote:
> IMHO:
>  - WORK/HOME without subtype should be treated as VOICE.
>  - Telephone[Type='VOICE'] with no other subtype should be mapped for
> something. I don't know XML Schema for Contact on WM6 devices but if
> there's just what's shown in the log available (ie. no general/default
> phone number), I'd suggest map it into C1:MobilePhoneNumber (or using
> gui/cli attempt the user interaction to ask for the type).

I'd like to confirm that using
http://tfuj.pl/osync/contact-to-airsync.xsl I was able to successfully
synchronize contacts from Nokia 6230i to HP iPAQ 514 (modulo encoding
problem I was mentioning earlier).

I didn't take a look at format30 -- don't know if it suffers the same
problem. I also didn't try to sync back (yet).

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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 23:59 +0200, Pawel Kot wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 22:26, Pawel Kot <gnokii@...> wrote:
> > IMHO:
> >  - WORK/HOME without subtype should be treated as VOICE.
> >  - Telephone[Type='VOICE'] with no other subtype should be mapped for
> > something. I don't know XML Schema for Contact on WM6 devices but if
> > there's just what's shown in the log available (ie. no general/default
> > phone number), I'd suggest map it into C1:MobilePhoneNumber (or using
> > gui/cli attempt the user interaction to ask for the type).
>
> I'd like to confirm that using
> http://tfuj.pl/osync/contact-to-airsync.xsl I was able to successfully
> synchronize contacts from Nokia 6230i to HP iPAQ 514 (modulo encoding
> problem I was mentioning earlier).

Resurrecting this old thread, I would like to note that one of Pawel's
changes appears to be bogus. He changes Type='HOME' and Type='VOICE' to
Type='HOME' and Type!='FAX' and Type='WORK' and Type='VOICE' to
Type='WORK' and Type!='FAX' , which is fine, and seems to fix the
problem he was trying to address (and that I also ran into, with
Blackberries). However, his .xsl has the following, further difference
from the current one in synce itself. It adds:

<C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
<xsl:value-of select="Telephone[Type='VOICE']/Content"/>
</C1:MobilePhoneNumber>

underneath:

<C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
<xsl:value-of select="Telephone[Type='CELL']/Content"/>
</C1:MobilePhoneNumber>

this appears to have the effect of over-riding the CELL entry
completely, so with Pawel's version, *only* Tel entries with the type
VOICE will get written as MobilePhoneNumber. Tel entries with the type
CELL don't get written at all, as far as I can tell.

I had a ton of contacts in Evolution whose cellphone numbers were lost
when I sync'ed to my new WM phone, because I was using Pawel's
contact-to-airsync.xml. When I reverted this last change, the cell
numbers synced properly. So that change is bogus, I think.
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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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Hi,

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:17, Adam Williamson <awilliamson@...> wrote:

> Resurrecting this old thread, I would like to note that one of Pawel's
> changes appears to be bogus. He changes Type='HOME' and Type='VOICE' to
> Type='HOME' and Type!='FAX' and Type='WORK' and Type='VOICE' to
> Type='WORK' and Type!='FAX' , which is fine, and seems to fix the
> problem he was trying to address (and that I also ran into, with
> Blackberries). However, his .xsl has the following, further difference
> from the current one in synce itself. It adds:
>
> <C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
> <xsl:value-of select="Telephone[Type='VOICE']/Content"/>
> </C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
>
> underneath:
>
> <C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
> <xsl:value-of select="Telephone[Type='CELL']/Content"/>
> </C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
>
> this appears to have the effect of over-riding the CELL entry
> completely, so with Pawel's version, *only* Tel entries with the type
> VOICE will get written as MobilePhoneNumber. Tel entries with the type
> CELL don't get written at all, as far as I can tell.

Yes. That is correct. I was not aware that only one MobilePhoneNumber
will be present in the resulting XML. However I don't know which phone
number type should be referred by VOICE.

> I had a ton of contacts in Evolution whose cellphone numbers were lost
> when I sync'ed to my new WM phone, because I was using Pawel's
> contact-to-airsync.xml. When I reverted this last change, the cell
> numbers synced properly. So that change is bogus, I think.

Well, I can confirm that. Fortunately I had just few entries marked as
CELL but some week ago I realized that I don't have a numer that I
wanted to use. And it turned out that it indeed was a number marked as
CELL on 6230i.

So, Adam is right. this part of the XSD file is incorrect. Is there
any list of possible phone types available? Or better: how is it
possible to add to a contact two phone numbers of type CELL?

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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 09:57 +0100, Pawel Kot wrote:

> Yes. That is correct. I was not aware that only one MobilePhoneNumber
> will be present in the resulting XML. However I don't know which phone
> number type should be referred by VOICE.

Just to complete the available information - I'm assuming you added this
entry because there is some device / opensync plugin combination that
exports cellphone numbers as simply having the type VOICE and nothing
else. That seems a bit odd. What device / plugin is it?
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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:11, Adam Williamson <awilliamson@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 09:57 +0100, Pawel Kot wrote:
>
>> Yes. That is correct. I was not aware that only one MobilePhoneNumber
>> will be present in the resulting XML. However I don't know which phone
>> number type should be referred by VOICE.
>
> Just to complete the available information - I'm assuming you added this
> entry because there is some device / opensync plugin combination that
> exports cellphone numbers as simply having the type VOICE and nothing
> else. That seems a bit odd. What device / plugin is it?

This is Nokia 6320i with gnokii plugin. Number type is
default/general. When vCard sent to WindowsPC, Outlook will show this
as 'Other Phone'.

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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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On Fri, 2008-10-31 at 01:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Sun, 2008-08-17 at 23:59 +0200, Pawel Kot wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 22:26, Pawel Kot <gnokii@...> wrote:
> > > IMHO:
> > >  - WORK/HOME without subtype should be treated as VOICE.
> > >  - Telephone[Type='VOICE'] with no other subtype should be mapped for
> > > something. I don't know XML Schema for Contact on WM6 devices but if
> > > there's just what's shown in the log available (ie. no general/default
> > > phone number), I'd suggest map it into C1:MobilePhoneNumber (or using
> > > gui/cli attempt the user interaction to ask for the type).
> >
> > I'd like to confirm that using
> > http://tfuj.pl/osync/contact-to-airsync.xsl I was able to successfully
> > synchronize contacts from Nokia 6230i to HP iPAQ 514 (modulo encoding
> > problem I was mentioning earlier).
>
> Resurrecting this old thread, I would like to note that one of Pawel's
> changes appears to be bogus. He changes Type='HOME' and Type='VOICE' to
> Type='HOME' and Type!='FAX' and Type='WORK' and Type='VOICE' to
> Type='WORK' and Type!='FAX' , which is fine, and seems to fix the
> problem he was trying to address (and that I also ran into, with
> Blackberries). However, his .xsl has the following, further difference
> from the current one in synce itself. It adds:
>
> <C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
> <xsl:value-of select="Telephone[Type='VOICE']/Content"/>
> </C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
>
> underneath:
>
> <C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
> <xsl:value-of select="Telephone[Type='CELL']/Content"/>
> </C1:MobilePhoneNumber>
>
> this appears to have the effect of over-riding the CELL entry
> completely, so with Pawel's version, *only* Tel entries with the type
> VOICE will get written as MobilePhoneNumber. Tel entries with the type
> CELL don't get written at all, as far as I can tell.
>
> I had a ton of contacts in Evolution whose cellphone numbers were lost
> when I sync'ed to my new WM phone, because I was using Pawel's
> contact-to-airsync.xml. When I reverted this last change, the cell
> numbers synced properly. So that change is bogus, I think.

Resurrecting this thread again - why hasn't this patch yet been merged?
I can't see any reason it shouldn't be.

(I'm sending this from @mandriva.com because I haven't yet been un-lazy
enough to update my mailing list subscriptions! But I'm looking at this
stuff for Fedora, now.)
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Re: Certain phone types not syncing from Nokia to WM6 device

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On Thu, 2009-03-19 at 11:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:

> Resurrecting this thread again - why hasn't this patch yet been merged?
> I can't see any reason it shouldn't be.
>
> (I'm sending this from @mandriva.com because I haven't yet been un-lazy
> enough to update my mailing list subscriptions! But I'm looking at this
> stuff for Fedora, now.)

Big thanks to John Carr for finally checking this in. You rule, John. :)
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