Clarification and cosolidation of live/compilation/bootleg type precedence

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Clarification and cosolidation of live/compilation/bootleg type precedence

by Vivek Kushwaha :: Rate this Message:

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I always find it nagging that some of live compilation releases/RGs
have their type as live while others have compilation. We should
follow a clear cut filter like model decide which category a release
should belong to.

Same is true for live bootlegs. Bar a few artists where bootlegs are
really abundant e.g. Grateful Dead, live bootlegs go to live type
releases. I think selection procedure should be chalked out and
included in guidelines. My take would be as follows.

For Releases.
1. If a release is first official issue of a studio album/single/EP,
subsequent official reissue with or without extra bonus tracks
(previously unreleased or otherwise), it will have a type "album".
Two-fer releases are of type 'album'.
2. If a studio release is later remixed to changed the theme of album
as a whole it's remix
3. Live EP is EP; Live Single is a single. (I've never seen these but
I'm sure the world is really weird, they must be existing somewhere).
Soundtrack is Soundtrack, Spokenwords are spokenwords, audio book is
audiobook, interview is interview. (I think this part never overlaps
and is easiest to deal with.)

*the rest below is a real jabberwocky, but I am trying to be descrete*
4. If a release is live, official, bootleg or otherwise (like release
from labels but without permission there by actually illegal and
unofficial); from a single show or compilation from various live shows
(like most Live at the BBC), various artist live compilations like
Live at Monterey Pop, etc. it will have release type of "live."
5. If a official release is retrospective collection of studio works
from multiple sessions, with or without some live tracks, it belongs
to compilation.
6. A bootleg compilation with tracks from various sessions is a compilation.
7. A bootleg with tracks from a single set of sessions  is *duh!* I
think this is where we should select "Other" and not for anything from
the first 6 categories (points 1-6 above)
8. If something filters out right though 1-7 above is of type Others.

Now we have some even more complicated cases in RGs (as they are defined now)

RGs genereally club together reissues of same album or multi-disc
compilation, so all the above rules are applicable. Now here is the
bummer.
What about Led Zeppelin "The Complete Studio Collections" box set?
Here is what I think should be done with these.
RGs should be of type "Compilation" as most of them on MB are listed
right now; but the individual discs, like "The Complete Studio
Recordings (disc 3: Led Zeppelin III)" release as we call it, why
should this be listed as 'compilation'? Since we have type data
separately stored for RGs and Releases, why do we need to have the
same value on both even when it doesn't sound right!

I think it would be best to put individual disc where they would have
belonged had they been individually released, and put RG for box set
in compilation.

Comments/Improvement/even disagreement are welcomed and if I'm
repeating something(s) from previous inconclusive discussion, ignore
my ignorance but help the cause.

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Re: Clarification and cosolidation of live/compilation/bootleg type precedence

by Vivek Kushwaha :: Rate this Message:

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Hey,
Sorry for multiple mails. I was trying to use nabble and some how it
was showing me that it can't post my message. And when I send mail to
mailing list by the normal way, I noticed that nabble has send it
after all. Please stick with this thread only. Sorry for all the
trouble.

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