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Re: verity on Linux?

2009-10-21T08:25:50Z

On Tuesday 13 Oct 2009, John Barrett wrote:
> Does the CF 9 server on Linux have access to verity?

Yes, it's an option in the server installer, and has it's own 'init.d'
script - try running that if it exists.
IIRC it's called 'cfsearch'.

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Re: can't access CF Admin

2009-10-13T06:36:11Z

Could be cf isn't running or '.cfm' extension isn't configured properly.
Would be best to know the OS, the Web Server, and machine, as the
infrastructures all work differently, for more detailed problem support.

On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 8:57 PM, John Barrett <barrjohnm@...> wrote:

>
> when I try to access the CF Admin I get a pop up window saying:
> "Opening index.cfm
> you have chosen to open
> index,cfm
> which is a :BIN file
> from http://localhost
> would you like to save this file?"
>
> Does anybody know is there some conf setting that ColdFsion did not write
> to some necessary file?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
>

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Re: can't access CF Admin

2009-10-13T05:32:26Z

> when I try to access the CF Admin I get a pop up window saying:
> "Opening index.cfm
> you have chosen to open
> index,cfm
> which is a :BIN file
> from http://localhost
> would you like to save this file?"
>
> Does anybody know is there some conf setting that ColdFsion did not
> write to some necessary file?
>
> Thanks,
> John

Hi John,

What version of CF you are installing? Os linux or windows?
Type http://localhost/abc.cfm and let me know what happens?

Guessing os is windows/IIS, and assuming cfm pages are working fine.
1> Double check coldfusion bindings from IIS admin, ISAPI Filter for cfm files.

2> Look in IIS Admin and create a virtual directory named "CFIDE" pointing to physical path of CFIDE if there is none.

Let me know if that works out.

Deval

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Re: can't access CF Admin

2009-10-13T05:25:04Z

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verity on Linux?

2009-10-12T20:10:09Z

Does the CF 9 server on Linux have access to verity? I get this:
Data & Services > Migrate Verity Collection

Unable to retrieve collections from the ColdFusion Search Service.
Please verify that the ColdFusion Search Server is installed and running.

Is there something I forgot to do during the set up?
thanks,

sorry about all the newbie question, I am brand new to Linux`-`
John

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can't access CF Admin

2009-10-12T17:57:07Z

when I try to access the CF Admin I get a pop up window saying:
"Opening index.cfm
you have chosen to open
index,cfm
which is a :BIN file
from http://localhost
would you like to save this file?"

Does anybody know is there some conf setting that ColdFsion did not write to some necessary file?

Thanks,
John

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Re: CF Builder

2009-10-11T19:36:57Z

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 5:36 PM, John Barrett <barrjohnm@...> wrote:
> does anybody know if CF Builder works on Linux?

Works, yes. Supported, no.

At MAX, Adam Lehman encouraged people to try to use it on Linux and
propagate the information on how to get it working. He said they
(almost certainly) won't support Linux for the 1.0 release (and
probably not for some time after that) - partly because if CF Builder
supports Linux, there's increasing pressure for Flash Builder to
support Linux and the two teams have to work together within Adobe for
any such cross-team Linux support. Also, "support" means fully QA'd
and tested and actually *supported* by Tech Support which is a huge
overhead for the relatively small number of people using Linux for
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Re: CF Builder

2009-10-10T21:01:28Z

Mark mandel got it to work under Linux here is his how to: http://www.compoundtheory.com/?action=displayPost&ID=414

Paul.

On Oct 10, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Jordan Michaels wrote:

>
> Sadly, CF Builder doesn't support Linux.
>
> You can use Eclipse with the CFEclipse plugin for a great, free,
> development environment on Linux.
>
> HTH,
>
> Jordan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Barrett" <barrjohnm@...>
> To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:36:03 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada
> Pacific
> Subject: CF Builder
>
>
> does anybody know if CF Builder works on Linux?
> if not what is the best coding environment for using CF on Luinux.
>
> I have a mac, and yes I have CF Builder, dreamweaver, and everything
> else, but I would like to not bring my laptop to school.
>
> Thanks,
> Johnny
>
>
>
>

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Re: CF Builder

2009-10-10T17:57:09Z

Hey Jordan,
thanks for the mail.

somehow I was thinking that cf builder is not supported on linux:(
when setting up the system at school my choice was windows or linux,
so happy with ubuntu `-`

I am hoping to set up a server using CF 9, to hosts a few sites for
the school.

I will check try CFEclipse

thanks again.
Johnny

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Re: CF Builder

2009-10-10T17:47:57Z

Sadly, CF Builder doesn't support Linux.

You can use Eclipse with the CFEclipse plugin for a great, free, development environment on Linux.

HTH,

Jordan

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Barrett" <barrjohnm@...>
To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 5:36:03 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: CF Builder

does anybody know if CF Builder works on Linux?
if not what is the best coding environment for using CF on Luinux.

I have a mac, and yes I have CF Builder, dreamweaver, and everything else, but I would like to not bring my laptop to school.

Thanks,
Johnny

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CF Builder

2009-10-10T17:36:03Z

does anybody know if CF Builder works on Linux?
if not what is the best coding environment for using CF on Luinux.

I have a mac, and yes I have CF Builder, dreamweaver, and everything else, but I would like to not bring my laptop to school.

Thanks,
Johnny

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2009-05-16T13:47:43Z

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Re: absolute beginner to the linux world

2009-04-28T03:40:15Z

On Monday 27 Apr 2009, David Henry wrote:
> I suggest that you DO NOT try a 64bit distro as your first Linux
> experience.

For a desktop, I'd agree.
For a server, I wouldn't.
For developing on, I'm not sure yet :-)

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RE: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T12:31:59Z

Yes, but it sounds like you're comparing apples to oranges a little bit here.

If you're talking about different systems with 32 bit CPUs vs 64 bit CPUs, there's a LOT of difference between the two architecturally speaking. Not to mention different generations of motherboard chipsets, etc. Going from an older server (especially older 32-bit Xeons to the latest 64 bit ones) are generally going to give you an increase in performance.

In general, same hardware - but 64 bit software vs 32 bit software - most of the time there will be little to no performance increase. Mainly because it's exactly the same code, just with bigger definitions for what size an integer is. In fact, in some cases the same software will run a little slower in 64 bits. (Measurably so, but not noticibly so - we're talking on the order of a few cpu cycles here.) Sometimes, things -will- be faster due to the CPU instruction pipeline differences, but over all - given the same set of hardware- 64bit vs 32 bit isn't a big 'performance' gain

Yes, things that are computationally intensive will most likely be re-coded and optimized to take advantage of the 64 bit environment and instruction set. Those can gain HUGE performance increases, especially if they can also be multi-threaded.

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>>> "Mark Kruger" <mkruger@...> 4/27/2009 2:18 PM >>>

Jeff,

That's true in many cases but not because there no gains in performance.
There ARE very significant performance gains for processor intensive
applications. Many applications simply run into other bottlenecks (I/O,
bandwidth, DB etc) before they start really pegging even the 32 bit
processor. We had a site running 32 bit procs (dualproc/dualcore) that was
running at 70% and servicing a few hundred thousand visitors a day. On CF 64
the procs look pretty much idle most of the time with the same amount of
traffic (upgrading to MSSQL05x64 helped too :). Another example - If you are
doing abstract financial calculations you can get exponential gains by
moving to 64 bit - with or without CF. Moreover, I suspect that we are close
to a tipping point on 32/64. I'm certainly seeing a lot more new 64bit
hardware than 32 bit at the moment. So I would suggest moving in that
direction to keep from falling behind if for no other reason. In my mind it
makes little sense to purchase 64 bit hardware only to run 32 bit software
and OS on it.

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RE: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T12:18:32Z

Jeff,

That's true in many cases but not because there no gains in performance.
There ARE very significant performance gains for processor intensive
applications. Many applications simply run into other bottlenecks (I/O,
bandwidth, DB etc) before they start really pegging even the 32 bit
processor. We had a site running 32 bit procs (dualproc/dualcore) that was
running at 70% and servicing a few hundred thousand visitors a day. On CF 64
the procs look pretty much idle most of the time with the same amount of
traffic (upgrading to MSSQL05x64 helped too :). Another example - If you are
doing abstract financial calculations you can get exponential gains by
moving to 64 bit - with or without CF. Moreover, I suspect that we are close
to a tipping point on 32/64. I'm certainly seeing a lot more new 64bit
hardware than 32 bit at the moment. So I would suggest moving in that
direction to keep from falling behind if for no other reason. In my mind it
makes little sense to purchase 64 bit hardware only to run 32 bit software
and OS on it.

-Mark

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Schoby [mailto:JAS@...]
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 2:04 PM
To: cf-linux
Subject: Re: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

It's not really so much about performance gains as it is being able to take
advantage of larger datasets and more memory than you can with 32 bit.

>>> David Henry <davidhenry@...> 4/27/2009 1:54 PM
>>>

How much actual performance gain do you get from 64bit CF?

Dave wrote:
> I'm checking our Railo right now and it runs fine on Ubuntu x64. Not
sure
> what limitations it might have compared to an actual CF server
though.Dave
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Jeff Schoby <JAS@...>
wrote:
>
>
>> Only point I could see is if you didn't have the big enterprise
version
>> of CF, standard doesn't come in 64 bit, only 32 - which I think is
>> stupid, but whatever.
>>
>> Aside from that, every distro has 64 bit versions of apache, mysql,
and
>> java - so it's not really such a big deal anymore.
>>
>> Where it gets tricky is when you try to compile your own stuff,
even

>> then it's not that big of a deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Schoby
>> Unix/Network Admin
>> City of Columbia, Missouri
>> 573.874.6320
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> David Henry <davidhenry@...> 4/27/2009 11:05

AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Adrian,
>>
>> I discourage /inexperienced /users from jumping on 64 bit because
the
>> directions for CF, Java, Apache, MySQL, and most others are written
>> 32-bit first and 64-bit as an afterthought. The smallest difference
in
>>
>> path, url, version, or command arguments can leave the new user
>> completely derailed from their tutorial in unfamiliar waters. With
a
>> CLI and an error message the user will either become a Linux guru
very
>>
>> quickly or will declare that all Linux sucks and give up.
>>
>> If you need 4GB+ memory, go for 64bit. If you need 100% accurate
>> directions without extra steps because you've never done this Linux
>> thing before, use 32bit.
>>
>> ...then again, perhaps the day has finally come to leave 32bit
behind.
>> David
>> Adrian Moreno wrote:
>>
>>> In order to not clutter the other thread, my question to David
Henry

>>>
>> and
>>
>>> everyone else, is why not try a 64-bit distro as your first Linux
>>> experience?
>>>
>>> I used 64-bit RedHat ES3 on an Intel Itanium a few years ago where
>>>
>> there
>>
>>> was no 32-bit backward compatibility. Other than compiling a few
>>>
>> programs
>>
>>> on a 64-bit compiler, I saw no differences between the 64-bit and

any

>>>
>>> 32-bit distro I'd used to date.
>>>
>>> I use 64-bit Ubuntu at home and had no problems installing CF, et.
>>>
>> al. on
>>
>>> it either.
>>>
>>> What problems would you expect a new linux user to run into

dealing

>>>
>> with
>>
>>> 64-bit vs. 32-bit?
>>>
>>> Curious,
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T12:03:45Z

It's not really so much about performance gains as it is being able to
take advantage of larger datasets and more memory than you can with 32
bit.

>>> David Henry <davidhenry@...> 4/27/2009 1:54 PM
>>>

How much actual performance gain do you get from 64bit CF?

Dave wrote:
> I'm checking our Railo right now and it runs fine on Ubuntu x64. Not
sure
> what limitations it might have compared to an actual CF server
though.Dave
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Jeff Schoby <JAS@...>
wrote:
>
>
>> Only point I could see is if you didn't have the big enterprise
version
>> of CF, standard doesn't come in 64 bit, only 32 - which I think is
>> stupid, but whatever.
>>
>> Aside from that, every distro has 64 bit versions of apache, mysql,
and
>> java - so it's not really such a big deal anymore.
>>
>> Where it gets tricky is when you try to compile your own stuff,
even

>> then it's not that big of a deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Schoby
>> Unix/Network Admin
>> City of Columbia, Missouri
>> 573.874.6320
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> David Henry <davidhenry@...> 4/27/2009 11:05

any

dealing

>>>
>> with
>>
>>> 64-bit vs. 32-bit?
>>>
>>> Curious,
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T11:54:28Z

How much actual performance gain do you get from 64bit CF?

Dave wrote:

> I'm checking our Railo right now and it runs fine on Ubuntu x64. Not sure
> what limitations it might have compared to an actual CF server though.Dave
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Jeff Schoby <JAS@...> wrote:
>
>
>> Only point I could see is if you didn't have the big enterprise version
>> of CF, standard doesn't come in 64 bit, only 32 - which I think is
>> stupid, but whatever.
>>
>> Aside from that, every distro has 64 bit versions of apache, mysql, and
>> java - so it's not really such a big deal anymore.
>>
>> Where it gets tricky is when you try to compile your own stuff, even
>> then it's not that big of a deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Schoby
>> Unix/Network Admin
>> City of Columbia, Missouri
>> 573.874.6320
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> David Henry <davidhenry@...> 4/27/2009 11:05 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> Adrian,
>>
>> I discourage /inexperienced /users from jumping on 64 bit because the
>> directions for CF, Java, Apache, MySQL, and most others are written
>> 32-bit first and 64-bit as an afterthought. The smallest difference in
>>
>> path, url, version, or command arguments can leave the new user
>> completely derailed from their tutorial in unfamiliar waters. With a
>> CLI and an error message the user will either become a Linux guru very
>>
>> quickly or will declare that all Linux sucks and give up.
>>
>> If you need 4GB+ memory, go for 64bit. If you need 100% accurate
>> directions without extra steps because you've never done this Linux
>> thing before, use 32bit.
>>
>> ...then again, perhaps the day has finally come to leave 32bit behind.
>> David
>> Adrian Moreno wrote:
>>
>>> In order to not clutter the other thread, my question to David Henry
>>>
>> and
>>
>>> everyone else, is why not try a 64-bit distro as your first Linux
>>> experience?
>>>
>>> I used 64-bit RedHat ES3 on an Intel Itanium a few years ago where
>>>
>> there
>>
>>> was no 32-bit backward compatibility. Other than compiling a few
>>>
>> programs
>>
>>> on a 64-bit compiler, I saw no differences between the 64-bit and any
>>>
>>> 32-bit distro I'd used to date.
>>>
>>> I use 64-bit Ubuntu at home and had no problems installing CF, et.
>>>
>> al. on
>>
>>> it either.
>>>
>>> What problems would you expect a new linux user to run into dealing
>>>
>> with
>>
>>> 64-bit vs. 32-bit?
>>>
>>> Curious,
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T11:48:03Z

I'm checking our Railo right now and it runs fine on Ubuntu x64. Not sure
what limitations it might have compared to an actual CF server though.Dave

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Jeff Schoby <JAS@...> wrote:

>
> Only point I could see is if you didn't have the big enterprise version
> of CF, standard doesn't come in 64 bit, only 32 - which I think is
> stupid, but whatever.
>
> Aside from that, every distro has 64 bit versions of apache, mysql, and
> java - so it's not really such a big deal anymore.
>
> Where it gets tricky is when you try to compile your own stuff, even
> then it's not that big of a deal.
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff Schoby
> Unix/Network Admin
> City of Columbia, Missouri
> 573.874.6320
>
>
> >>> David Henry <davidhenry@...> 4/27/2009 11:05 AM
> >>>
>
> Adrian,
>
> I discourage /inexperienced /users from jumping on 64 bit because the
> directions for CF, Java, Apache, MySQL, and most others are written
> 32-bit first and 64-bit as an afterthought. The smallest difference in
>
> path, url, version, or command arguments can leave the new user
> completely derailed from their tutorial in unfamiliar waters. With a
> CLI and an error message the user will either become a Linux guru very
>
> quickly or will declare that all Linux sucks and give up.
>
> If you need 4GB+ memory, go for 64bit. If you need 100% accurate
> directions without extra steps because you've never done this Linux
> thing before, use 32bit.
>
> ...then again, perhaps the day has finally come to leave 32bit behind.
> David
> Adrian Moreno wrote:
> > In order to not clutter the other thread, my question to David Henry
> and
> > everyone else, is why not try a 64-bit distro as your first Linux
> > experience?
> >
> > I used 64-bit RedHat ES3 on an Intel Itanium a few years ago where
> there
> > was no 32-bit backward compatibility. Other than compiling a few
> programs
> > on a 64-bit compiler, I saw no differences between the 64-bit and any
>
> > 32-bit distro I'd used to date.
> >
> > I use 64-bit Ubuntu at home and had no problems installing CF, et.
> al. on
> > it either.
> >
> > What problems would you expect a new linux user to run into dealing
> with
> > 64-bit vs. 32-bit?
> >
> > Curious,
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>

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Re: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T10:03:39Z

Only point I could see is if you didn't have the big enterprise version
of CF, standard doesn't come in 64 bit, only 32 - which I think is
stupid, but whatever.

Aside from that, every distro has 64 bit versions of apache, mysql, and
java - so it's not really such a big deal anymore.

Where it gets tricky is when you try to compile your own stuff, even
then it's not that big of a deal.

--
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Unix/Network Admin
City of Columbia, Missouri
573.874.6320

>>> David Henry <davidhenry@...> 4/27/2009 11:05 AM
>>>

Adrian,

I discourage /inexperienced /users from jumping on 64 bit because the
directions for CF, Java, Apache, MySQL, and most others are written
32-bit first and 64-bit as an afterthought. The smallest difference in

path, url, version, or command arguments can leave the new user
completely derailed from their tutorial in unfamiliar waters. With a
CLI and an error message the user will either become a Linux guru very

quickly or will declare that all Linux sucks and give up.

If you need 4GB+ memory, go for 64bit. If you need 100% accurate
directions without extra steps because you've never done this Linux
thing before, use 32bit.

...then again, perhaps the day has finally come to leave 32bit behind.
David
Adrian Moreno wrote:
> In order to not clutter the other thread, my question to David Henry
and
> everyone else, is why not try a 64-bit distro as your first Linux
> experience?
>
> I used 64-bit RedHat ES3 on an Intel Itanium a few years ago where
there
> was no 32-bit backward compatibility. Other than compiling a few
programs
> on a 64-bit compiler, I saw no differences between the 64-bit and any

> 32-bit distro I'd used to date.
>
> I use 64-bit Ubuntu at home and had no problems installing CF, et.
al. on
> it either.
>
> What problems would you expect a new linux user to run into dealing
with

> 64-bit vs. 32-bit?
>
> Curious,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T09:05:24Z

Adrian,

I discourage /inexperienced /users from jumping on 64 bit because the
directions for CF, Java, Apache, MySQL, and most others are written
32-bit first and 64-bit as an afterthought. The smallest difference in
path, url, version, or command arguments can leave the new user
completely derailed from their tutorial in unfamiliar waters. With a
CLI and an error message the user will either become a Linux guru very
quickly or will declare that all Linux sucks and give up.

If you need 4GB+ memory, go for 64bit. If you need 100% accurate
directions without extra steps because you've never done this Linux
thing before, use 32bit.

...then again, perhaps the day has finally come to leave 32bit behind.
David
Adrian Moreno wrote:

> In order to not clutter the other thread, my question to David Henry and
> everyone else, is why not try a 64-bit distro as your first Linux
> experience?
>
> I used 64-bit RedHat ES3 on an Intel Itanium a few years ago where there
> was no 32-bit backward compatibility. Other than compiling a few programs
> on a 64-bit compiler, I saw no differences between the 64-bit and any
> 32-bit distro I'd used to date.
>
> I use 64-bit Ubuntu at home and had no problems installing CF, et. al. on
> it either.
>
> What problems would you expect a new linux user to run into dealing with
> 64-bit vs. 32-bit?
>
> Curious,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T08:39:24Z

Agreed. I cut my teeth on Slackware and Debian but quickly moved to Ubuntu
64 and have loved it. Also curious why one would recommend not using it.
Dave

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Adrian Moreno <amoreno@...>wrote:

>
> In order to not clutter the other thread, my question to David Henry and
> everyone else, is why not try a 64-bit distro as your first Linux
> experience?
>
> I used 64-bit RedHat ES3 on an Intel Itanium a few years ago where there
> was no 32-bit backward compatibility. Other than compiling a few programs
> on a 64-bit compiler, I saw no differences between the 64-bit and any
> 32-bit distro I'd used to date.
>
> I use 64-bit Ubuntu at home and had no problems installing CF, et. al. on
> it either.
>
> What problems would you expect a new linux user to run into dealing with
> 64-bit vs. 32-bit?
>
> Curious,
>
> Adrian
>
>
>
>
>

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Why not use 64-bit as first distro?

2009-04-27T08:27:35Z

In order to not clutter the other thread, my question to David Henry and
everyone else, is why not try a 64-bit distro as your first Linux
experience?

I used 64-bit RedHat ES3 on an Intel Itanium a few years ago where there
was no 32-bit backward compatibility. Other than compiling a few programs
on a 64-bit compiler, I saw no differences between the 64-bit and any
32-bit distro I'd used to date.

I use 64-bit Ubuntu at home and had no problems installing CF, et. al. on
it either.

What problems would you expect a new linux user to run into dealing with
64-bit vs. 32-bit?

Curious,

Adrian

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Re: absolute beginner to the linux world

2009-04-27T08:22:36Z

Why is that? Ubuntu Server x64 works great. If you're machine's
architecture is 64 bit there's no reason not to take advantage of the extra
power.Dave

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:07 AM, David Henry <
davidhenry@...> wrote:

>
> I suggest that you DO NOT try a 64bit distro as your first Linux
> experience.
>
>
> Adrian Moreno wrote:
> > I've got a section of my site that covers issues with ColdFusion and
> Linux. Check out
> >
> > http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/blog/index.cfm/Linux
> >
> > The article named "Moving ColdFusion applications from Windows to Linux"
> shows differences and issues between the operating systems. The ACME Guide
> should work for either 32-bit or 64-bit installations and covers a lot of
> details for installing CF on Linux.
> >
> > If you need help learning how to program CF, pick up Ben Forta's books
> starting here:
> >
> http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-ColdFusion-Web-Application-Construction/dp/032151548X
> >
> > In addition to this mailing list, there are a ton of CF blogs aggregated
> at http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org/.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> > From: "mike pop" <mikepoplawski@...>
> > Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:16 AM
> > To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
> > Subject: absolute beginner to the linux world
> >
> > i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and
> an undetermined database server.
> >
> > As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the
> cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server. I would like
> some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.
> >
> > Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be
> compensated. Everything will take place via email. I realize your time is
> worth money too.
> >
> > I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server. Second, I
> would like some mentoring with CF8. I need a little more than internet
> tutorials or books.
> >
> > That was my first dilemma. My second dilemma is writing an application
> in cold fusion 8 for Linux.
> >
> > Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows)
> different than Cold Fusion (Linux). I thought Linux uses forward slashes as
> opposed to back slashes. What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?
> >
> > For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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Re: absolute beginner to the linux world

2009-04-27T08:07:49Z

I suggest that you DO NOT try a 64bit distro as your first Linux experience.

Adrian Moreno wrote:

> I've got a section of my site that covers issues with ColdFusion and Linux. Check out
>
> http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/blog/index.cfm/Linux
>
> The article named "Moving ColdFusion applications from Windows to Linux" shows differences and issues between the operating systems. The ACME Guide should work for either 32-bit or 64-bit installations and covers a lot of details for installing CF on Linux.
>
> If you need help learning how to program CF, pick up Ben Forta's books starting here:
> http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-ColdFusion-Web-Application-Construction/dp/032151548X
>
> In addition to this mailing list, there are a ton of CF blogs aggregated at http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org/.
>
> HTH,
>
> Adrian
>
> ----------------------------------------
> From: "mike pop" <mikepoplawski@...>
> Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:16 AM
> To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
> Subject: absolute beginner to the linux world
>
> i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.
>
> As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server. I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.
>
> Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated. Everything will take place via email. I realize your time is worth money too.
>
> I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server. Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8. I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.
>
> That was my first dilemma. My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.
>
> Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux). I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes. What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?
>
> For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.
>
>
>
>

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re: absolute beginner to the linux world

2009-04-27T07:59:03Z

I've got a section of my site that covers issues with ColdFusion and Linux. Check out

http://www.iknowkungfoo.com/blog/index.cfm/Linux

The article named "Moving ColdFusion applications from Windows to Linux" shows differences and issues between the operating systems. The ACME Guide should work for either 32-bit or 64-bit installations and covers a lot of details for installing CF on Linux.

If you need help learning how to program CF, pick up Ben Forta's books starting here:
http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-ColdFusion-Web-Application-Construction/dp/032151548X

In addition to this mailing list, there are a ton of CF blogs aggregated at http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org/.

HTH,

Adrian

----------------------------------------
From: "mike pop" <mikepoplawski@...>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 8:16 AM
To: "cf-linux" <cf-linux@...>
Subject: absolute beginner to the linux world

i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.

As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server. I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.

Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated. Everything will take place via email. I realize your time is worth money too.

I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server. Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8. I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.

That was my first dilemma. My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.

Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux). I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes. What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?

For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.

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Re: absolute beginner to the linux world

2009-04-27T06:45:50Z

> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 09:06, mike pop <mikepoplawski@...> wrote:

Are you the Mike Poplawski I used to know?

> Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux). I
> thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes. What are the other gotchas in using CF8
> (Linux)?

There really aren't any significant differences, believe it or not!

As David mentioned, Linux filesystems are case-sensitive, so any
references to specific files need to keep that in mind. Also, the
files Application.cfc, Application.cfm and OnRequestEnd.cfm need to be
named just like that to be found on a case-sensitive filesystem.

You can't use MS Access datasources from Linux, but pretty much
everything else with regard to datasources is the same.

CF runs very reliably on Linux, in my experience.

The biggest problem is initial configuration, especially permissions.
Default permissions on Windows are quite lax, but on Linux and Unix in
general, you have to know what things need what permissions. That
said, it's pretty easy to set this up. If you grant the CF user
account full permissions over the CF install directory (typically
/opt/coldfusion if I recall correctly) and read permissions over the
web root directory, that'll let CF pages run. If you need CF to write
to parts of the web root, you'll need to set permissions accordingly
there as well. You use chmod from the command line to do this; you'll
have learned all about chmod if you set up a Linux server.

Good luck!

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Re: absolute beginner to the linux world

2009-04-27T06:35:30Z

Mike,

Ooh, this sounds like fun.

Have you purchased any hardware or are you starting from scratch?
How much traffic do you need to handle?
What kind of CF application are you planning to build?
How much time do you have to get all of this in place?

Another gotcha:
Linux file system is CaSe sensitive.

David

mike pop wrote:

> i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.
>
> As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server. I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.
>
> Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated. Everything will take place via email. I realize your time is worth money too.
>
> I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server. Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8. I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.
>
> That was my first dilemma. My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.
>
> Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux). I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes. What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?
>
> For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.
>
>

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absolute beginner to the linux world

2009-04-27T06:15:38Z

i am being tasked to setup a linux box with SSL, CF8 linux, SSL, SMTP and an undetermined database server.

As an absolute beginner to the linux world and recent newcomer to the cold fusion community, i have no experience building a server. I would like some feedback, guidance, or assistance on how to build/configure a server.

Of course, for those of you who enjoy teaching or mentoring, you will be compensated. Everything will take place via email. I realize your time is worth money too.

I would like to learn 2 things: first, how to build a server. Second, I would like some mentoring with CF8. I need a little more than internet tutorials or books.

That was my first dilemma. My second dilemma is writing an application in cold fusion 8 for Linux.

Specifically, how is building an application with Cold Fusion (Windows) different than Cold Fusion (Linux). I thought Linux uses forward slashes as opposed to back slashes. What are the other gotchas in using CF8 (Linux)?

For those who are interested in mentoring, I welcome your feedback.

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Re: Application variable problems

2008-12-17T07:27:15Z

If the page request, action=somepage, is not found in the config file, it will try to reload the xml file to see if there was a change to the file. You will probably say that i have a case problem and it is tryin to reload the config, but i can click on the same thing, 8 times it will work, 2 times it will error.

i have the capital A, found that one out in about a minute after i tried to run it!

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Re: Application variable problems

2008-12-17T07:14:23Z

If this is the old application.cf you ran on windows is the "a" in
application upper cased like this "Application.cfm"?

This is critical on non-windows file systems.

Wil Genovese
Sr. Web Application Developer

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 8:48 AM, mark cianciulli <mcianciulli@...>wrote:

> No debug or dev setting. I am still using the old application.cfm, and
> there are logic blocks in there. Basically, it looks to see if the
> application.framework variable exists, or if the page request does not
> exist. That is what is strange, it will error out saying that the
> application.framework is not in the application scope.
>
> Nothing complex about the application variables, just view and controller
> nodes.
>
>
>
>

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RE: Application variable problems

2008-12-17T06:54:58Z

What do you mean by "if the page request does not exist"?

How are you handling the "name" of the application (as in <cfapplication
name="blah" ..>)

Ok... If it's a Linux vs. windows problem, make sure that the file is named
"Application.cfm" and not "application.cfm" (note the capital "A").

-Mark

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-----Original Message-----
From: mark cianciulli [mailto:mcianciulli@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:49 AM
To: cf-linux
Subject: Re: Application variable problems

No debug or dev setting. I am still using the old application.cfm, and
there are logic blocks in there. Basically, it looks to see if the
application.framework variable exists, or if the page request does not
exist. That is what is strange, it will error out saying that the
application.framework is not in the application scope.

Nothing complex about the application variables, just view and controller
nodes.

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Re: Application variable problems

2008-12-17T06:49:31Z

btw, it worked fine on windows server. I went through and corrected all the case-sensitive problems.

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Re: Application variable problems

2008-12-17T06:48:31Z

No debug or dev setting. I am still using the old application.cfm, and there are logic blocks in there. Basically, it looks to see if the application.framework variable exists, or if the page request does not exist. That is what is strange, it will error out saying that the application.framework is not in the application scope.

Nothing complex about the application variables, just view and controller nodes.

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RE: Application variable problems

2008-12-17T06:40:02Z

A couple of things....

- Does the framework have a "debug" or "development" mode setting. This
would be a setting that causes it to reinitialize everything with each
request. That's fine for development, but in production you want it to
initialize persistent stuff only once (i.e. Application variables)

- Are you using Application.cfc and if so is your application variable
loader in the onApplicationStart() function?

-If you are using appplication.cfm do you have a logic block around your set
statements that keeps them from being overwritten with each new request?
Something like...

<cfif not isDefined('appplication.somevar')>
<cfset application.blah = "value1"/>
<cfset application.somevar = "value2"/>
</cfif>

- Are you stuffing any complex objects into the application scope (i.e.
components)? If you are, and if you reference return value objects from
those components in another persistent scope like "sesssion" you can end up
with unexpected errors and memory issues.

That's all I can think of...

Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
(402) 408-3733 ext 105
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-----Original Message-----
From: mark cianciulli [mailto:mcianciulli@...]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 8:19 AM
To: cf-linux
Subject: Application variable problems

Hello, I am running cf8 on CentOS 5.2. The framework I am using, like
otheres, loads the config.xml file into the application variables. It seems
to be fine for a bit, then I start getting errors about null pointers and
that the application variables don't exist. Any one have any ideas on what
the issue may be??? Thanks Mark

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Application variable problems

2008-12-17T06:18:39Z

Hello, I am running cf8 on CentOS 5.2. The framework I am using, like otheres, loads the config.xml file into the application variables. It seems to be fine for a bit, then I start getting errors about null pointers and that the application variables don't exist. Any one have any ideas on what the issue may be??? Thanks Mark

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