Colour information for spumux?

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Colour information for spumux?

by Francois Visagie-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi All,
 
I'm new to this list and hope you can help me.
 
I've noticed that the subtitles I generate from text with spumux only have two colours, i.e. no anti-aliasing and quite unattractive.
 
When used with the '-ma' via GUI for dvdauthor option, it reports:
 

INFO: No color information written

INFO: palette file required for the pgc

When used with the '-mdvd' option, it doesn't report that, but instead the process aborts later on with the report:

ERR: color map full, unable to allocate new colors.

Which means I can't tell what colours were used.

http://dvdauthor.sourceforge.net/doc/spumux.html provides no information on spumux colour usage.

How do I specify colour information/palette for spumux?

Many thanks,

Francois


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Re: Colour information for spumux?

by Lawrence D'Oliveiro-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Francois Visagie wrote:

> I've noticed that the subtitles I generate from text with spumux only have two
> colours, i.e. no anti-aliasing and quite unattractive.
>
> How do I specify colour information/palette for spumux?

I've never bothered to generate text subtitles from spumux. Use a package
like Gimp to render to PNG files instead--gives you more control,
anti-aliasing, and all that good stuff.


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Re: Colour information for spumux?

by Eduardo M KALINOWSKI-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Francois Visagie wrote
>> I've noticed that the subtitles I generate from text with spumux only have two
>> colours, i.e. no anti-aliasing and quite unattractive.
>>
>> How do I specify colour information/palette for spumux?
>>    
>
> I've never bothered to generate text subtitles from spumux. Use a package
> like Gimp to render to PNG files instead--gives you more control,
> anti-aliasing, and all that good stuff.
>  

DVD subtitles can only contain four colors. This means that
anti-aliasing gets very limited, and even if tried would not bring good
results.

The only way to get really nice subtitles is by burning them to the
video, but then you'll have no way of turning them off.

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"I'd love to go out with you, but I have to stay home and see if I snore."

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
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Re: Colour information for spumux?

by Francois Visagie-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Lawrence and Eduardo,

Thanks for your responses.

For this project I definitely need selectable subtitles. When done
properly, I can happily live with the results of anti-aliasing. It's
just that the tool chain I now use lacks other features, such as
positioning the subtitles where I need them, displaying time-adjacent
titles without inserting artificial gaps causing flickering, etc.

With SSA, spumux does all that and I was hoping for a way to get it
to do anti-aliasing, too ;-).

I suspect that there may be a way to manually insert PNG subtitles into
the GUI for dvdauthor sequence so I may try the Gimp suggestion.

Kind regards,
Francois

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> Francois Visagie wrote
>> I've noticed that the subtitles I generate from text with spumux only

>> have two colours, i.e. no anti-aliasing and quite unattractive.
>>
>> How do I specify colour information/palette for spumux?
>>    
>
> I've never bothered to generate text subtitles from spumux. Use a
> package like Gimp to render to PNG files instead--gives you more
> control, anti-aliasing, and all that good stuff.
>  

DVD subtitles can only contain four colors. This means that
anti-aliasing gets very limited, and even if tried would not bring good
results.

The only way to get really nice subtitles is by burning them to the
video, but then you'll have no way of turning them off.

--
"I'd love to go out with you, but I have to stay home and see if I
snore."

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
eduardo@...
http://move.to/hpkb


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Re: Colour information for spumux?

by Eduardo M KALINOWSKI-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Francois Visagie wrote:

> Hi Lawrence and Eduardo,
>
> Thanks for your responses.
>
> For this project I definitely need selectable subtitles. When done
> properly, I can happily live with the results of anti-aliasing. It's
> just that the tool chain I now use lacks other features, such as
> positioning the subtitles where I need them, displaying time-adjacent
> titles without inserting artificial gaps causing flickering, etc.
>
> With SSA, spumux does all that and I was hoping for a way to get it
> to do anti-aliasing, too ;-).
>
> I suspect that there may be a way to manually insert PNG subtitles into
> the GUI for dvdauthor sequence so I may try the Gimp suggestion.
>  

I couldn't find much information, but it seems spumux can take a series
of png images and mux these into the video, so you can do whatever you
want with your subtitles, as long as they only have four colors. Or
maybe three, I can't remember if the transparency needed for the
background uses one space.

The syntax seems to be simple and boring:
http://www.floatinginspace.za.org/spumux/subtitles.html

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Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
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