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[Daniel Taylor-6]

Hey,

I've been using Gourmet on and off for a while now and want to thank
you all for the wonderful job. I really appreciate the work that you
do.

Lately I've been inclined to think of it as very complex and doing
much much more than I need, and I've been sitting around thinking
about what I might do if I were to design a recipe management
application. So, I thought about it for a while and then hacked
something together these past couple weeks in my limited spare time. I
wanted to go for simplicity and an audience of a general desktop user.
That means that Gourmet is probably a better choice for people that
need a strong, mature, feature-full program, but for people that just
need to store a few recipes I think my approach may be useful. That is
to say I'd like to consider us teammates instead of rivals.

The project is far from finished, and simply called Recipe Manager. If
anybody is interested I would be grateful if you'd take a look at it
and maybe provide some constructive feedback. There is a screenshot
and a download here:

http://www.recipemanager.org
http://www.recipemanager.org/files/recipemanager-20071108.tar.bz2

I'm working on setting up public anonymous SVN access, but for now
that is a checkout from yesterday of my svn server.

The README file has information regarding prerequisits (it needs more
than just pygtk), running the program and generating API documentation
for librecipemanager. The HOWTO file has some known bugs and a list of
features I'd like to implement but haven't yet. Copy/Paste also don't
work from the menu, and you can view your own shared recipes over the
network (this is on purpose so you can test without needing two
systems).

I also just realized that Gourmet is written in Python. I wonder if I
could use the same file format to store recipes and your import/export
code (depending on the license I suppose). I will have to check out
the source and documentation some time.

This is my first time ever writing my own GTK+ widget, GTK+ cell
renderer, and my first time ever using Cairo, DBUS, Avahi, and XMLRPC,
so go easy on me! ;-)

Also, would you mind if I put a link to Gourmet on my site?

Thanks for any feedback, and keep up the great work on Gourmet.
--
Daniel G. Taylor
http://programmer-art.org

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[Thomas Mills Hinkle]

Daniel,

You're welcome to link to Gourmet. Just glancing at your program, I notice that your interface looks very similar to Gourmet's. I haven't yet downloaded your program, but I wonder if it might not be more fruitful to find ways to simplify/improve Gourmet's interface so it's easier to use, rather than creating a whole new app.

That said, if the design purposes really are different (and they might be -- maybe having nutritional info etc. necessarily complicates Gourmet's interface in ways we can't fix), then different apps make sense. In that case, it would be worth making the programs interoperable.

On the DB level, this seems unlikely to me, though maybe it could be done.

On the file level, though, I think we could certainly work to make import/export run smoothly. Gourmet has its own import/export format (which needs some improvements, actually, so that it includes nutritional info). Gourmet also aims to support as many existing formats as possible. Mealmaster and Mastercook formats are defacto standards of sorts, but both are flawed. Eatdrinkfeelgood is an XML format that has some good elements, though it doesn't work perfectly for Gourmet. If Gourmet's XML format looks useful to you, I'd be open to accepting patches to fix it up to make it work better with other programs. That said, Gourmet's XML format really was designed as the easiest way to go from Gourmet's DB to an XML format, rather than as an excellent XML format in and of itself.

Tom

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[Jeff Fortin]

Hello Daniel,
IANAC (I am not a cook ;), but I plan to learn someday when I have time. I just gave your app a run and I find it brilliant in its simplicity. I like it :)

In any case, if you are planning on making a separate project (but interoperable with gourmet) out of this, I would suggest hosting it on launchpad or google code (or something for bug reports and such). Or at least provide contact info on the main page :)

Also, if you would like me to translate RM into French, just send me a .pot template file :)

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[David Prieto]

Also, if you would like me to translate RM into French, just send me a .pot template file :)

You can also send it to me if you want it translated to Spanish.

I just love it.

David.
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