Comparison of Chinese Wikipedia, Hudong and Baidu Baike

[Apoc 2400]

I do not read much Chinese, but I have found Baidu Baike and Hudong
interesting. Let me share my impression of how they differ from Wikipedia.
* Like most of the Chinese web, there is little regard for copyrights. Most
of the article text seems to be copied from news articles, the official site
of the subject or various government websites. The images come from anywhere
on the web.
* They encourage rather than avoid the social networking and game-like
aspects of the community. As the CNN article says, there are general
chatrooms, friend functions, points, rankings etc.
* They are not at all strict with sources. We should remember that Wikipedia
became hugely popular before we really got serious about sources, and most
non-English Wikipedias are still mostly unsourced.
* They are generally anarchic. Not towards things the government might
object to, but to things like BLP, and sources. Celebrity articles are full
of gossip.
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[Gerard Meijssen-3]

Hoi,
Most of the Wikimedians that I know are into things like IRC, they are on
skype, mailing lists, talk pages .... The question that I have is thy we do
not have our own social networking environment, our own friend functions,
rankings ORGANISED. As these things exist informally would they not work
better if we give room to them...

For instance, I am in contact with many people from the smaller wikipedias,
I get the impression that this contact is appreciated. I even think that it
helps grow the smaller projects because it provides some reassurance.. This
same reassurance can be given when we deliberately foster a community
spirit. This can be done by providing social networking functionality,
rankings, tools etc.
Thanks,
      GerardM

2009/10/22 Apoc 2400 <apoc2400@...>

> I do not read much Chinese, but I have found Baidu Baike and Hudong
> interesting. Let me share my impression of how they differ from Wikipedia.
> * Like most of the Chinese web, there is little regard for copyrights. Most
> of the article text seems to be copied from news articles, the official
> site
> of the subject or various government websites. The images come from
> anywhere
> on the web.
> * They encourage rather than avoid the social networking and game-like
> aspects of the community. As the CNN article says, there are general
> chatrooms, friend functions, points, rankings etc.
> * They are not at all strict with sources. We should remember that
> Wikipedia
> became hugely popular before we really got serious about sources, and most
> non-English Wikipedias are still mostly unsourced.
> * They are generally anarchic. Not towards things the government might
> object to, but to things like BLP, and sources. Celebrity articles are full
> of gossip.
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[Michael Snow-3]

Apoc 2400 wrote:
> * They encourage rather than avoid the social networking and game-like
> aspects of the community. As the CNN article says, there are general
> chatrooms, friend functions, points, rankings etc.
>  
Does any of this factor into the number of "entries" or other reported
data for Hudong and Baidu Baike? I'd like to have a better sense of
whether we're really getting an apples-to-apples comparison with
Wikipedia as an encyclopedia. It could have interesting implications,
either in terms of reconsidering how we interact as a community, or in
reconsidering whether these are really comparable sites.

--Michael Snow

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