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	<title>Nabble - Conceptual Graphs</title>
	<updated>2009-12-18T08:40:29Z</updated>
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	<subtitle type="html">Sowa's Conceptual Graphs, and its related topics e.g. Semantic Web, Knowledge Representation</subtitle>
	
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26846131</id>
	<title>Sentiment and perspective analysis</title>
	<published>2009-12-18T08:40:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-18T08:40:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
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	<content type="html">The problems of analyzing sentiment, perspective, and spin are
&lt;br&gt;critical for many kinds of language processing. &amp;nbsp;The following
&lt;br&gt;note to Corpora List cites some useful resources.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The dissertation by Stephan Greene presents &amp;quot;graph-based methods&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;that could be adapted to or used in conjunction with CG software.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The PDF file of the dissertation also includes many pointers to
&lt;br&gt;other publications and collections of documents that were used
&lt;br&gt;in the research.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-------- Original Message --------
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [Corpora-List] UMD Death Penalty Corpus
&lt;br&gt;Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 10:51:48 -0500
&lt;br&gt;From: P Resnik &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26846131&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;psresnik@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Reply-To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26846131&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;resnik@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: CORPORA &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26846131&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CORPORA@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm happy to announce the availability of a corpus related to
&lt;br&gt;sentiment/perspective, for purposes of non-commercial research.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The University of Maryland Death Penalty Corpus (or UMD DP corpus, for
&lt;br&gt;short), at &lt;a href=&quot;http://umiacs.umd.edu/~resnik/dp/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://umiacs.umd.edu/~resnik/dp/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;, is a collection of
&lt;br&gt;material from Web sites that express views for and against the death
&lt;br&gt;penalty. It was compiled by Stephan Greene
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/%7Esgreene/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/%7Esgreene/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; as part of his doctoral
&lt;br&gt;dissertation
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/%7Esgreene/SGreeneDissertationFinalDist.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/%7Esgreene/SGreeneDissertationFinalDist.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Greene, Stephan C. (2007). /Spin: Lexical Semantics, Transitivity,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;and the Identification of Implicit Sentiment/. Doctoral Thesis,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;University of Maryland, College Park, MD. UMI Order Number:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;AAI3277427, ISBN 978-0-549-16038-0.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~sgreene/SGreeneDissertationFinalDist.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~sgreene/SGreeneDissertationFinalDist.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Key elements of that work are reported more briefly in:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Greene, Stephan and Philip Resnik, &amp;quot;More than Words: Syntactic
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Packaging and Implicit Sentiment&amp;quot;, /Proceedings of Human Language
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Technologies: The 2009 Annual Conference of the North American
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Chapter of the Association for Computational Linguistics/ June,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;2009, Boulder, Colorado, pp. 503-511. Association for Computational
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Linguistics}, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aclweb.org/anthology/N/N09/N09-1057.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.aclweb.org/anthology/N/N09/N09-1057.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The downloadable corpus is organized in a way that should make it easy
&lt;br&gt;to replicate the cross-validation train/test splits in Stephan's study,
&lt;br&gt;to facilitate direct comparisons among alternative methods.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have fun, and happy holidays,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Philip
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	<title>CfP - epiSTEME 4 Conference, HBCSE, Mumbai, India. Jan 5-9, 2011</title>
	<published>2009-12-18T08:37:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-18T08:37:42Z</updated>
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		<name>Ms. Meena Kharatmal</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;First Announcement and Call for Papers
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;epiSTEME - 4
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fourth international conference to review research on Science,
&lt;br&gt;TEchnology and Mathematics Education
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education (TIFR), Mumbai, India, 5-9
&lt;br&gt;January, 2011
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/episteme4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/episteme4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Conference epiSTEME-4 is the fourth in a series of biennial
&lt;br&gt;conferences aimed at reviewing research world-wide in science,
&lt;br&gt;technology and mathematics education. It is being organised by the
&lt;br&gt;Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, a National Centre of the
&lt;br&gt;Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Mumbai, India.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Science, technology and mathematics education (STME) have, in recent
&lt;br&gt;decades, emerged as lively new research areas. This research,
&lt;br&gt;inspired by issues of learning and teaching, has clear uniting themes
&lt;br&gt;in the cognitive, pedagogical, historical, philosophical and
&lt;br&gt;socio-cultural aspects of the sciences.? The epiSTEME conferences
&lt;br&gt;occupy a unique position among conferences and bring together
&lt;br&gt;researchers in these foundational areas as well as from the domains of
&lt;br&gt;science, design and technology and mathematics education. Conference
&lt;br&gt;epiSTEME-4 continues this tradition of interdisciplinary exchange.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The name epiSTEME connotes, at one level, a systematic study of
&lt;br&gt;knowledge, while as an acronym it suggests a meta-view of science,
&lt;br&gt;technology and mathematics education. The previous epiSTEME
&lt;br&gt;conferences, held in 2004, 2007 and 2009, have catalysed collaborative
&lt;br&gt;programmes among researchers and educational practitioners in India
&lt;br&gt;and abroad. Within India, they have helped to initiate and foster
&lt;br&gt;linkages between theory, empirical research and the work of grassroots
&lt;br&gt;organisations.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Structure of the conference:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Three broad strands of research that impact STME will form the core of
&lt;br&gt;epiSTEME-4. Themes have been identified under each strand to reflect
&lt;br&gt;active research topics and areas of interest. Leading scholars will be
&lt;br&gt;invited to give overviews of some of the themes within each
&lt;br&gt;strand. Paper and poster sessions will complement the review
&lt;br&gt;talks. Pre and post conference workshops are being planned, the
&lt;br&gt;details of which will be announced later. The strands and themes are
&lt;br&gt;presented below.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Strand 1. Historical, philosophical and socio-cultural studies of STM: 
&lt;br&gt;implications for education
&lt;br&gt;Theme 1: History and Philosophy of STME
&lt;br&gt;Theme 2: Socio-cultural and gender issues in STME
&lt;br&gt;Theme 3: Science and Technology Studies
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Strand 2. Cognitive and affective studies of STME
&lt;br&gt;Theme 1: Visuo-spatial thinking
&lt;br&gt;Theme 2: Knowledge representation
&lt;br&gt;Theme 3: Language and learning
&lt;br&gt;Theme 4: Problem solving, learning and reasoning
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Strand 3. Curriculum and pedagogical studies in STME
&lt;br&gt;Theme 1: Assessment and evaluation
&lt;br&gt;Theme 2: Role of ICT in teaching-learning
&lt;br&gt;Theme 3: Classroom interaction and discourse
&lt;br&gt;Theme 4: Affective aspects of learning
&lt;br&gt;Theme 5: Professional development of teachers
&lt;br&gt;Theme 6: Educational initiatives and innovations
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Review Speakers
&lt;br&gt;David Barlex, Brunel University, UK
&lt;br&gt;Poonam Batra, University of Delhi, India
&lt;br&gt;Susantha Goonatilake, World Academy of Arts &amp; Science, Sri Lanka
&lt;br&gt;Pratibha Jolly, University of Delhi, India
&lt;br&gt;Helen Longino, Stanford University, USA
&lt;br&gt;Nora Newcombe, Temple University, USA
&lt;br&gt;Masakata Ogawa, Tokyo University of Science, Japan
&lt;br&gt;Jonathan Osborne, Stanford University, USA
&lt;br&gt;Mamokgethi Setati, University of South Africa, South Africa
&lt;br&gt;K. Subramaniam, Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education, India
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Call for Submissions
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Papers are invited on the themes listed above. Submissions must be
&lt;br&gt;made online in the form of full papers of 6-8 pages (maximum of 8
&lt;br&gt;pages including references). Details and a template for submission may
&lt;br&gt;be downloaded from the conference webpage.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All submissions go through a double-blind review process. Accepted
&lt;br&gt;papers are published in the Proceedings, distributed during the
&lt;br&gt;conference and can be downloaded from the conference site
&lt;br&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/episteme&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/episteme&lt;/a&gt;). Review talks along with the
&lt;br&gt;discussions are documented in a series of volumes called The epiSTEME
&lt;br&gt;Reviews.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dates to remember:
&lt;br&gt;Submission of full paper/poster write-up: April 1, 2010
&lt;br&gt;Notification of acceptance: July 1, 2010
&lt;br&gt;Submission of revised paper: August 1, 2010
&lt;br&gt;Registration with payment: September 1, 2010
&lt;br&gt;Dates of conference: January 5-9, 2011
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Homi Bhabha Centre for Science Education (Tata Institute of
&lt;br&gt;Fundamental Research), V. N. Purav Marg, Mankhurd, Mumbai 400 088,
&lt;br&gt;India.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Email: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26846221&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;episteme4@...&lt;/a&gt; ; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26846221&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;episteme4@...&lt;/a&gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tel: 91-22-25580036, 2555 5242
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Convener, epiSTEME-4
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/episteme4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.hbcse.tifr.res.in/episteme4&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Meena.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26836824</id>
	<title>[CMC-l] cmc2010: Call for Papers / 4th Int. Conf. on Concept Mapping</title>
	<published>2009-12-17T15:30:54Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-17T15:30:54Z</updated>
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		<name>S. D. Cook</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;&lt;div style=&quot;word-wrap: break-word;&quot;&gt;&lt;br&gt;==================================================&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Call for Papers&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;CMC 2010 - Fourth International Conference on Concept Mapping&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;Viña del Mar, Chile - October 5, 6 ,7, 2010&lt;br&gt;Sheraton Miramar Hotel &amp;amp; Convention Center&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; Website: &lt;a href=&quot;http://cmc.ihmc.us&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cmc.ihmc.us&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Contact: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26836824&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cmc2010@...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;The Fourth International Conference on Concept Mapping follows on the success of the first three Conferences held Pamplona, San José, and Tallinn/Helsinki in bringing together scholars and practitioners interested in concept mapping. It is being organized by the Universidad de Chile and the Institute for Human and Machine Cognition, USA.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;The Conference is aimed at all persons interested in the use of concept maps (based on the work of Dr. Joseph Novak), including, but not limited to: facilitation of learning; eliciting, capturing, archiving, and using “expert” knowledge; planning instruction;  assessment of “deep” understandings; research planning; collaborative  knowledge modeling; creation of “knowledge portfolios”; and administrative and strategic planning and monitoring. We expect participants from a broad range of fields presenting a wide variety of research and applications of concept mapping.  All presentations at the conference are expected to include time for questions, answers, and scholarly discussion.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;Electronic paper submissions can be submitted in the following categories:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;• Paper Proposals: Papers are reports of completed research accepted by a panel of experts and peers and will be published in the conference proceedings. There are three categories for papers: (a) empirical research, (b) model or theory development, and (c) theorizing from the literature. The time allotted for each session is 30 minutes (20 minutes presentation/10 minutes discussion). Audience participation, as a principle of adult education, is stressed.  Full papers submissions have a length of up to 8 pages.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;• (*NEW*) Research Roundtable Proposals: Research roundtables provide an opportunity to informally discuss research in progress and research issues with a group of participants. A 2 page summary/abstract will be published in the conference proceedings. The time allotted for each session is 50 minutes. Several roundtable discussions will take place concurrently in the same room with each presenter assigned to a different table.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;• (*NEW*) Symposium Proposals: A symposium presents diverse or conflicting perspectives on a compelling topic or issue that is or should be of concern to concept mapping community.  A symposium should NOT be merely a presentation of a related set of papers.  Symposia should include a 4 page formal paper and this paper will be published in the conference proceedings. The time allotted for each session is 50 minutes. Audience participation is encouraged.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;• Poster Presentations (with paper):  The posters will form a visual display prepared by conference participants describing a research initiative, program, pedagogical model, and/or best practice on how concept mapping is applied in a variety of settings.  Poster   presentations serve as an effective forum for the exchange of information and a means to communicate ideas, research, and programs. Poster papers should have a maximum length of 4 pages and will be published in the conference proceedings.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;• (*NEW*) Poster Presentation (without paper).  Posters that do not include a formal paper will also be accepted for presentation at the conference.  Participants can submit a 500 word abstract if they are interested in presenting a poster without writing a formal paper.  The abstracts will be reviewed for selection at the conference.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;• (*NEW*) Electronic Posters. There will be a limited number of electronic posters accepted at the conference.  Electronic posters can be posters with or without a formal paper. The number of electronic posters available will be determined by the host site for the conference, and the decision will be made on space available and cost.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;All papers should be written and presented in Spanish or English. The Proceedings of the Conference will be published as a book by the University of Chile and posted on the Conference web site.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All papers from previous conferences are available at &lt;a href=&quot;http://cmc.ihmc.us&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cmc.ihmc.us&lt;/a&gt; and can be searched at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cmappers.net&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cmappers.net&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Time-line for Proposal Submission Process&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;INITIAL CONFERENCE PAPER/PROPOSAL SUBMISSION DEADLINE:  April 19, 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To submit a paper, roundtable, poster, symposium, or showcase please go to the following web site: &lt;a href=&quot;http://cmc.ihmc.us&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cmc.ihmc.us&lt;/a&gt;. For each type of presentation follow the directions as to the page numbers and the format that is posted there.&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;DECISION RETURNED TO PAPER AUTHOR(S):  June 7, 2010&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;FINAL CAMERA READY SUBMISSION OF PAPER FOR INCLUSION IN CONFERENCE  PROCEEDINGS:  July 19, 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CONFERENCE DATES: October 5, 6, 7, 2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Program Committee Chairs&lt;br&gt;


&lt;br&gt;Jaime Sánchez, Universidad de Chile, Chair&lt;br&gt;Alberto J. Cañas, Institute for Human and Machine Cognition, Co-Chair&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Steering Committee, cmc2010&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Barbara Daley, University of Wisconsin-Milawaukee, USA&lt;br&gt;

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	<title>RE: Peirce's graphs as the foundation for the Semantic Web</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T00:27:55Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T00:27:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dau, Frithjof</name>
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	<content type="html">Nice! Marie-Laure already sent me a link tot he slides, and I joped that a videolecture will be published. THenaks for the link!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Frithjof
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: [CG:] Peirce's graphs as the foundation for the Semantic Web
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is the topic of a talk that Pat Hayes presented as a
&lt;br&gt;keynote speaker at the International Semantic Web Conference
&lt;br&gt;in October. &amp;nbsp;Following is the video of his talk:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://videolectures.net/iswc09_hayes_blogic/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://videolectures.net/iswc09_hayes_blogic/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pat Hayes was intimately involved with two important projects:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 1. The semantic foundations for the Common Logic standard.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2. The semantic foundations (LBase) for RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, most of the differences between Common Logic and the old
&lt;br&gt;KIF result from the requirements for making Common Logic support
&lt;br&gt;the semantics of RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In that talk, Pat discusses Peirce's graph logic, and he makes a
&lt;br&gt;modest proposal for future directions for Semantic Web languages:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 1. Adopt RDF as the foundation for *all* semantic web logics
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;and extend it to the full expressive power of Common Logic.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2. Instead of &amp;quot;layering&amp;quot; OWL and other languages on top of RDF,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;make RDF the most general language and *embed* other logics
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;as special cases of the newly extended RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 3. The technique that Pat advocates is one that C. S. Peirce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;developed for his existential graphs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For people who may not be familiar with Peirce's graph logic,
&lt;br&gt;point #3 is not likely to be obvious.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, I had been making some slides for a tutorial on Common
&lt;br&gt;Logic, and I started with Peirce's graph logic at the beginning.
&lt;br&gt;I still haven't finished the full set of slides, but the part
&lt;br&gt;about Peirce's graphs is sufficient:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/clintro.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/clintro.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Introduction to Common Logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is still incomplete, but the parts on EGs are sufficient
&lt;br&gt;for an introduction. &amp;nbsp;I strongly support Pat's proposal, and I
&lt;br&gt;believe that it would be an important first step toward providing
&lt;br&gt;an adequate semantic foundation for the Semantic Web.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa
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	<title>Peirce's graphs as the foundation for the Semantic Web</title>
	<published>2009-12-14T21:03:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-14T21:03:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">That is the topic of a talk that Pat Hayes presented as a
&lt;br&gt;keynote speaker at the International Semantic Web Conference
&lt;br&gt;in October. &amp;nbsp;Following is the video of his talk:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://videolectures.net/iswc09_hayes_blogic/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://videolectures.net/iswc09_hayes_blogic/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pat Hayes was intimately involved with two important projects:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 1. The semantic foundations for the Common Logic standard.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2. The semantic foundations (LBase) for RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In fact, most of the differences between Common Logic and the old
&lt;br&gt;KIF result from the requirements for making Common Logic support
&lt;br&gt;the semantics of RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In that talk, Pat discusses Peirce's graph logic, and he makes a
&lt;br&gt;modest proposal for future directions for Semantic Web languages:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 1. Adopt RDF as the foundation for *all* semantic web logics
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;and extend it to the full expressive power of Common Logic.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2. Instead of &amp;quot;layering&amp;quot; OWL and other languages on top of RDF,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;make RDF the most general language and *embed* other logics
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;as special cases of the newly extended RDF.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 3. The technique that Pat advocates is one that C. S. Peirce
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;developed for his existential graphs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For people who may not be familiar with Peirce's graph logic,
&lt;br&gt;point #3 is not likely to be obvious.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, I had been making some slides for a tutorial on Common
&lt;br&gt;Logic, and I started with Peirce's graph logic at the beginning.
&lt;br&gt;I still haven't finished the full set of slides, but the part
&lt;br&gt;about Peirce's graphs is sufficient:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/clintro.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/clintro.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Introduction to Common Logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is still incomplete, but the parts on EGs are sufficient
&lt;br&gt;for an introduction. &amp;nbsp;I strongly support Pat's proposal, and I
&lt;br&gt;believe that it would be an important first step toward providing
&lt;br&gt;an adequate semantic foundation for the Semantic Web.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26779461</id>
	<title>Cactus Language and Differential Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-14T07:20:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-14T07:20:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jon Awbrey</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">There's an update of my introduction to Differential Logic at this location:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mywikibiz.com/Directory:Jon_Awbrey/Papers/Differential_Logic_:_Introduction&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://mywikibiz.com/Directory:Jon_Awbrey/Papers/Differential_Logic_:_Introduction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This begins with a brief discussion of a formal system for propositional calculus,
&lt;br&gt;the parse graphs of whose expressions are roughly what graph theorists call &amp;quot;cacti&amp;quot;,
&lt;br&gt;with axioms and equational inference rules that derive from C.S. Peirce's system of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;alpha graphs&amp;quot;, the propositional part of his &amp;quot;existential graphs&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon Awbrey
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cc: Arisbe, CG, Cybernetics, FOM, Inquiry, SUO
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	<title>Ray Solomonoff</title>
	<published>2009-12-12T18:00:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-12T18:00:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Ray Solomonoff, one of the few surviving participants in the 1956
&lt;br&gt;Dartmouth conference that defined the field of AI, died on Dec. 7
&lt;br&gt;at the age of 82. &amp;nbsp;Following is a brief announcement:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.foresight.org/nanodot/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Following is a list of his publications:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://world.std.com/~rjs/pubs.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://world.std.com/~rjs/pubs.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;His most recent publication (2009) is an overview of the field
&lt;br&gt;of algebraic probability and its use in inductive inference,
&lt;br&gt;for which he was one of the founders and a major contributor.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He was also an advocate of Strong AI -- the goal of developing
&lt;br&gt;superhuman computer systems. &amp;nbsp;Following are some lectures and
&lt;br&gt;articles from 2005 that explain why he believes that goal is
&lt;br&gt;a promising area of research:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://world.std.com/~rjs/lects.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://world.std.com/~rjs/lects.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa
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	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic MORE re CHANGE</title>
	<published>2009-12-10T15:32:12Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-10T15:32:12Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Cox</name>
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Another way to express your thought, Rich, might be to say, &quot;Yes,
that's the way the world &lt;u&gt;doesn't&lt;/u&gt; work.&quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
It is often like that, I agree.&amp;nbsp; I have not yet found any broad
discipline--science, law, government, education, business, medicine,
banking, art--that lists skills for creative change teamwork.&amp;nbsp; There
seem to be few exceptions that have &quot;&lt;i&gt;inventing change or changing
themselves, if required, to help others&lt;/i&gt; &lt;u&gt;&lt;i&gt;in ways that others
become enthused about, aspire to, grow with&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/u&gt;.&quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
A recent, happy, specific departure expressed in the CG family is Jon
Awbrey's stance of our helping 5th grade teachers help their students
do logic. This is aligned with something different from proving or
improving CGs or CSs.&amp;nbsp; Similarly, it is different from a company's
profit-making as a sufficient goal or a government's preventing attacks
by terrorists.&amp;nbsp; It is different from being &quot;right&quot; or &quot;brilliant&quot; or
&quot;status-having&quot; or &quot;risk-avoiding&quot; or &quot;tenure-deserving.&quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I remember John Sowa writing, &quot;If you believe it, go do it!&quot;&amp;nbsp; To me, it
meant, &quot;do it no matter what excuses can be made to not attempt change!
Invent ways!&quot;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
For me, the &quot;it&quot; is to help people invent change and make change happen
which enhances, for example, children, government, science, etc..&amp;nbsp;
Change is signaled by being able to describe an &quot;old&quot; method and a
&quot;new&quot; method and the result--not merely a performance improvement with
the old method.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Methods of change-inventing are skills.&amp;nbsp; Some are nontraditional. Some
examples:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
* &quot;definition of what is to be changed&quot; does not have an obvious
method. A problem need not exist for change to be considered and
invented.&lt;br&gt;
* &quot;ideas&quot; and &quot;suggestions&quot; can be different in type from
&quot;recommendations&quot; and can reasonably be reacted-to quite differently.&lt;br&gt;
* &quot;discussion&quot; is a way to encourage animosity, diffusion, and
position-taking.&lt;br&gt;
* &quot;Robert's Rules&quot; 600 pages address who has power, not
change-invention, not teamwork.&lt;br&gt;
* &quot;asking why?&quot; is a good way to kill momentum toward change.&amp;nbsp; It can
be a defense of present methods. There are more powerful questions.&lt;br&gt;
* &quot;scientific method&quot; is not very change-imaginative. It says nothing
about skunk-works teams, for example. &lt;br&gt;
* &quot;being creative&quot; is only one part of change-imagining. It sometimes
leads to competition, not helping one another.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
These are busy days, aren't they.&amp;nbsp; Good luck and good holidays!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
David Cox&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Rich Elk wrote:
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;mid:4b2146e3.1408c00a.0435.3d24@mx.google.com&quot; type=&quot;cite&quot;&gt;
  &lt;pre wrap=&quot;&quot;&gt;Yes, that's the way the world works.  Entrenched interests dig deeper to
preserve their investments, while new interests find the best place to
invest their own lives.  Nobody gives it away without at least a plan to get
even more back.  

The young have all the fun, and the old have all the security.  

-Rich
 
Sincerely,
Rich Cooper
EnglishLogicKernel.com
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com

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Subject: Re: [CG:] Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic

Jon,

The answer to that question is obvious:

JA&amp;gt; It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
 &amp;gt; have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
 &amp;gt; imagination that many of us have long believed they ought?

They have caught the imagination of every student who has ever
studied the subject.  But the hardest task is to get *professors*
to study anything:

  1. For an assistant professor, the primary goal is to get tenure.
     That requires not only a long list of publications in reputable
     journals, but a list of citations by respectable people (usually
     other professors).

  2. Papers in respectable journals are reviewed by professors and
     their graduate students.  (The more respectable the professor,
     the more likely that students will do the reviewing.)

  3. Students and professors give high scores to papers that make
     incremental improvements to familiar paradigms.  Anything outside
     a familiar paradigm is likely to get a low score.  (A colleague
     showed me a rejection note, in which the reviewer wrote &quot;I never
     saw anyone do anything like this before.&quot;  Any research that is
     significantly different from other published research is not
     considered respectable.)

  4. For an associate professor, the primary goal is to get promoted
     to full professor.  (Copy the comment from point #1.)

  5. Full professors are generally in output-only mode.  That means
     they are not likely to read anything that is not directly related
     to getting more funding for their department.  And very few funding
     agencies give grants for R &amp;amp; D on Peirce's graphs.

As just one more example, some graduate students at Stanford tried
to publish a paper on something called a &quot;page rank&quot; algorithm for
evaluating relevance of information.  But that idea was outside any
respectable paradigm, and the students had a little project with
the childish name Google.  So of course, the paper was rejected.
Eventually, however, their project made enough money that they had
enough funds to get the attention of full professors.  That made
their paradigm respectable.  Now, many papers use the term &quot;page
rank&quot; in their titles in order to make them sound respectable.

John

PS:  At large conferences such as IJCAI, the most exciting
presentations are in workshops, not in the main sessions, which
are reserved for boring papers that get high scores.  The ones
that get &quot;best paper&quot; awards are ones that nobody could find
any excuse for rejecting -- they are invariably the most boring.


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	<title>RE: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-10T11:07:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-10T11:07:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rich Elk</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Yes, that's the way the world works. &amp;nbsp;Entrenched interests dig deeper to
&lt;br&gt;preserve their investments, while new interests find the best place to
&lt;br&gt;invest their own lives. &amp;nbsp;Nobody gives it away without at least a plan to get
&lt;br&gt;even more back. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The young have all the fun, and the old have all the security. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Rich
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;Rich Cooper
&lt;br&gt;EnglishLogicKernel.com
&lt;br&gt;Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [CG:] Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The answer to that question is obvious:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JA&amp;gt; It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; imagination that many of us have long believed they ought?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They have caught the imagination of every student who has ever
&lt;br&gt;studied the subject. &amp;nbsp;But the hardest task is to get *professors*
&lt;br&gt;to study anything:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 1. For an assistant professor, the primary goal is to get tenure.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;That requires not only a long list of publications in reputable
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;journals, but a list of citations by respectable people (usually
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;other professors).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2. Papers in respectable journals are reviewed by professors and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;their graduate students. &amp;nbsp;(The more respectable the professor,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;the more likely that students will do the reviewing.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 3. Students and professors give high scores to papers that make
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;incremental improvements to familiar paradigms. &amp;nbsp;Anything outside
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a familiar paradigm is likely to get a low score. &amp;nbsp;(A colleague
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;showed me a rejection note, in which the reviewer wrote &amp;quot;I never
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;saw anyone do anything like this before.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;Any research that is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;significantly different from other published research is not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;considered respectable.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 4. For an associate professor, the primary goal is to get promoted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;to full professor. &amp;nbsp;(Copy the comment from point #1.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 5. Full professors are generally in output-only mode. &amp;nbsp;That means
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;they are not likely to read anything that is not directly related
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;to getting more funding for their department. &amp;nbsp;And very few funding
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;agencies give grants for R &amp; D on Peirce's graphs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As just one more example, some graduate students at Stanford tried
&lt;br&gt;to publish a paper on something called a &amp;quot;page rank&amp;quot; algorithm for
&lt;br&gt;evaluating relevance of information. &amp;nbsp;But that idea was outside any
&lt;br&gt;respectable paradigm, and the students had a little project with
&lt;br&gt;the childish name Google. &amp;nbsp;So of course, the paper was rejected.
&lt;br&gt;Eventually, however, their project made enough money that they had
&lt;br&gt;enough funds to get the attention of full professors. &amp;nbsp;That made
&lt;br&gt;their paradigm respectable. &amp;nbsp;Now, many papers use the term &amp;quot;page
&lt;br&gt;rank&amp;quot; in their titles in order to make them sound respectable.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS: &amp;nbsp;At large conferences such as IJCAI, the most exciting
&lt;br&gt;presentations are in workshops, not in the main sessions, which
&lt;br&gt;are reserved for boring papers that get high scores. &amp;nbsp;The ones
&lt;br&gt;that get &amp;quot;best paper&amp;quot; awards are ones that nobody could find
&lt;br&gt;any excuse for rejecting -- they are invariably the most boring.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26726648</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-10T04:45:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-10T04:45:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The answer to that question is obvious:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JA&amp;gt; It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; imagination that many of us have long believed they ought?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They have caught the imagination of every student who has ever
&lt;br&gt;studied the subject. &amp;nbsp;But the hardest task is to get *professors*
&lt;br&gt;to study anything:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 1. For an assistant professor, the primary goal is to get tenure.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;That requires not only a long list of publications in reputable
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;journals, but a list of citations by respectable people (usually
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;other professors).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2. Papers in respectable journals are reviewed by professors and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;their graduate students. &amp;nbsp;(The more respectable the professor,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;the more likely that students will do the reviewing.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 3. Students and professors give high scores to papers that make
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;incremental improvements to familiar paradigms. &amp;nbsp;Anything outside
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a familiar paradigm is likely to get a low score. &amp;nbsp;(A colleague
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;showed me a rejection note, in which the reviewer wrote &amp;quot;I never
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;saw anyone do anything like this before.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;Any research that is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;significantly different from other published research is not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;considered respectable.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 4. For an associate professor, the primary goal is to get promoted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;to full professor. &amp;nbsp;(Copy the comment from point #1.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 5. Full professors are generally in output-only mode. &amp;nbsp;That means
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;they are not likely to read anything that is not directly related
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;to getting more funding for their department. &amp;nbsp;And very few funding
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;agencies give grants for R &amp; D on Peirce's graphs.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As just one more example, some graduate students at Stanford tried
&lt;br&gt;to publish a paper on something called a &amp;quot;page rank&amp;quot; algorithm for
&lt;br&gt;evaluating relevance of information. &amp;nbsp;But that idea was outside any
&lt;br&gt;respectable paradigm, and the students had a little project with
&lt;br&gt;the childish name Google. &amp;nbsp;So of course, the paper was rejected.
&lt;br&gt;Eventually, however, their project made enough money that they had
&lt;br&gt;enough funds to get the attention of full professors. &amp;nbsp;That made
&lt;br&gt;their paradigm respectable. &amp;nbsp;Now, many papers use the term &amp;quot;page
&lt;br&gt;rank&amp;quot; in their titles in order to make them sound respectable.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS: &amp;nbsp;At large conferences such as IJCAI, the most exciting
&lt;br&gt;presentations are in workshops, not in the main sessions, which
&lt;br&gt;are reserved for boring papers that get high scores. &amp;nbsp;The ones
&lt;br&gt;that get &amp;quot;best paper&amp;quot; awards are ones that nobody could find
&lt;br&gt;any excuse for rejecting -- they are invariably the most boring.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26721370</id>
	<title>Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T18:50:16Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T18:50:16Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jon Awbrey</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Sorry, I lost track of this thread due to a lot of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;just (barely) in time&amp;quot; home and garden winterizing
&lt;br&gt;that I had to do before the storm that blew in today.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somewhat disconnectedly, then, one of the things that I often
&lt;br&gt;think of on the pedagogical front is the tenor of discussions
&lt;br&gt;that I've had in some of the classical math discussion forums,
&lt;br&gt;where students tend to focus on their more immediate homework
&lt;br&gt;problems. &amp;nbsp;I notice, a bit sadly, that the run of the mill in
&lt;br&gt;logic education is leaving yet another generation of students
&lt;br&gt;struggling with basic logical hurdles that are wholly trivial
&lt;br&gt;when tackled with the right syntax.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Traveling the next couple of days, but I had to get that off my chest ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Re: &lt;a href=&quot;http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.conceptual-graphs/2911&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.ai.conceptual-graphs/2911&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JA: It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;imagination that many of us have long believed they ought?
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26715741</id>
	<title>Dependency Parsing and SQLite</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T11:01:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T11:01:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Since tools are being discussed, I'd like to mention some things
&lt;br&gt;that tool developers might find useful. &amp;nbsp;One is a short book on
&lt;br&gt;dependency parsing, which presents a good overview of the subject
&lt;br&gt;and includes pointers to various free software packages that
&lt;br&gt;implement dependency parsers. &amp;nbsp;(See the review below.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dependency parsers and link-grammar parsers are useful for
&lt;br&gt;generating graphs that can be mapped almost one-to-one to CGs.
&lt;br&gt;Some tools mentioned in the following book support multiple
&lt;br&gt;languages, and some are specialized for English.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another is the SQLite database engine, which is open source and
&lt;br&gt;widely used by prominent companies, such as Adobe, Apple, Mozilla,
&lt;br&gt;and Google. &amp;nbsp;It is also bundled with languages such as Python
&lt;br&gt;and PHP. &amp;nbsp;Following is their web site:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sqlite.org/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sqlite.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And following are some of their famous users:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sqlite.org/famous.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sqlite.org/famous.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Despite its small size, SQLite will support some large files, but
&lt;br&gt;the maximum size of a single file is limited to 320 petabytes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa
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<entry>
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	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic - As pedagogical and philosofical tools</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T10:39:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T10:39:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Alfredo,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That is an excellent reminder:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CSP&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Logic came about for the sake of reasonableness, not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; reasonableness for the sake of logic.&amp;quot; Let us never lose sight
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; of that truth, forgotten though it is, every day, in every walk
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; of life, especially in well-regulated America!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; --Charles S. Peirce, Collected Papers 2.195 (c.1902)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And that collection of quotations by CSP is also a good starting
&lt;br&gt;point for anybody who finds his longer papers hard to read:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cspeirce.com/menu/library/rsources/quotes/quotes.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cspeirce.com/menu/library/rsources/quotes/quotes.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Another quotation, which is important for the social issues that were
&lt;br&gt;discussed in this thread:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CSP&amp;gt; Knowledge is essentially social
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; No general description of the mode of advance of human knowledge
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; can be just which leaves out of account the social aspect of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; knowledge. That is of its very essence. What a thing society is!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; The workingman, with his trade union, knows that. Men and women
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; moving in polite society understand it, still better. But
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; Bohemians, like me, whose work is done in solitude, are apt to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; forget that not only is a man as a whole little better than
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; a brute in solitude, but also that everything that bears any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; important meaning to him must receive its interpretation from
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; social considerations.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; --Charles S. Peirce, MS 1573.273 (undated)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26709284</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic - As pedagogical and philosofical tools</title>
	<published>2009-12-09T04:10:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-09T04:10:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>peirce-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Logic is for the sake of reasonableness
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Logic came about for the sake of reasonableness, not reasonableness for the
&lt;br&gt;sake of logic.&amp;quot; Let us never lose sight of that truth, forgotten though it
&lt;br&gt;is, every day, in every walk of life, especially in well-regulated America!
&lt;br&gt;--Charles S. Peirce, Collected Papers 2.195 (c.1902)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cspeirce.com/menu/library/rsources/quotes/quotes.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cspeirce.com/menu/library/rsources/quotes/quotes.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;TV, Computer,Cell Phones and Software, all they are CG applications.
&lt;br&gt;We need Define CG Functions:
&lt;br&gt;CG.append(Reasonableness.&amp; Logic);.
&lt;br&gt;CG.append(Knowledge &amp; Visibility);.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alfredo Horoch
&lt;br&gt;Arisbe
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JA&amp;gt; It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; imagination that many of us have long believed it should?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; CG's as a pedagogical tool need to be sustained both by intellectual
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; advocacy, and by simple tools.....
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26699537</id>
	<title>Re: RE: ] Peirce's graph logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-08T11:42:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-08T11:42:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Pavel Kocura</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Simon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As John's thesis supervisor (and a long-time collaborator), I suggest 
&lt;br&gt;that you make sure you have his explicit permission to distribute his code.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pavel
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Polovina, Simon wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If anyone is interested I have John (Heaton)'s and my CARE Prolog code if anyone 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; wishes to take it up (either John's on its own or with my code as they would be two 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; distinct tasks), provided you acknowledge this previous work as 
&lt;br&gt;appropriate.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26698892</id>
	<title>RE: RE: ] Peirce's graph logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-08T10:58:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-08T10:58:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rich Elk</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Thanks Simon, I'll read the thesis and keep your offer in mind,
&lt;br&gt;-Rich
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;Rich Cooper
&lt;br&gt;EnglishLogicKernel.com
&lt;br&gt;Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: Polovina, Simon [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26698892&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;S.Polovina@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 9:56 AM
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: RE: [CG:] RE: ] Peirce's graph logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Rich, and all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I see that Graham has put the thesis on line at his website - thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As John (Sowa) states, it was 15 years too late but didn't exist online in
&lt;br&gt;any shape or form until the British Library recently made it available
&lt;br&gt;(after I'd specifically requested it).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As it happens I also used John (Heaton)'s theorem prover in my own PhD
&lt;br&gt;(www.polovina.me.uk/PhD), building a GUI for it and calling it CARE
&lt;br&gt;(Conceptual Analysis and Review Environment). I used MacProlog which had
&lt;br&gt;excellent graphical libraries but was not 32 bit clean, so like John's it's
&lt;br&gt;been gathering dust...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone is interested I have John (Heaton)'s and my CARE Prolog code if
&lt;br&gt;anyone wishes to take it up (either John's on its own or with my code as
&lt;br&gt;they would be two distinct tasks), provided you acknowledge this previous
&lt;br&gt;work as appropriate.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simon
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&lt;br&gt;Sent: 07 December 2009 18:02
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: [CG:] RE: ] Peirce's graph logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Simon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The link below, i.e.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;doesn't work; it gets me to a site that offers:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; theses some day in the future when the site is working, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; after I have become a member, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; after I have logged in,
&lt;br&gt;and	after I have found the thesis you mentioned. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there a shorter shortcut?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;-Rich
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;Rich Cooper
&lt;br&gt;EnglishLogicKernel.com
&lt;br&gt;Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: [CG:] Peirce's graph logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi CGers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As you know from ICCS year on year I've continually been referring to
&lt;br&gt;Peirce's graph logic in my work, applying it to business applications.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are interested in how Peirce's logic can be incorporated with
&lt;br&gt;conceptual graphs (CG) in a lucid, software-implementable way I would
&lt;br&gt;strongly recommend John Heaton's thesis &amp;quot;Goal driven theorem proving using
&lt;br&gt;conceptual graphs and Peirce logic&amp;quot;, which can be obtained for free from the
&lt;br&gt;British Library:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This work needs re-promoting as without a software tool that support's
&lt;br&gt;Peirce logic as lucidly as John's, its value will always be undermined as I
&lt;br&gt;have discovered from my own teaching experiences.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly John has moved onto other things so is no longer continuing it,
&lt;br&gt;despite my best efforts to encourage him. Nonetheless I'm hoping that this
&lt;br&gt;fascinating work can be kicked off again and further developed to reach its
&lt;br&gt;potential. Exploring Peirce's visualisation of logic with CG would open up
&lt;br&gt;rich educational and commercial opportunities, once we can bring the
&lt;br&gt;productivity of computers to bear upon it. Feel free to take it up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dr. Simon Polovina, Senior Lecturer in Computing
&lt;br&gt;Conceptual Structures Research Group
&lt;br&gt;Sheffield Hallam University, Furnival Building, 153 Arundel St, Sheffield,
&lt;br&gt;UK S1 2NU
&lt;br&gt;Tel: +44 (0)114 225 6825; Web: www.polovina.me.uk
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26698404</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-08T10:26:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-08T10:26:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Bob, Rich, Michel, Janet, and everybody else,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The sociological issues of why some things (both ideas and products)
&lt;br&gt;become popular and others don't are extremely complex. &amp;nbsp;In my previous
&lt;br&gt;note, I mentioned ways to promote any kind of technology: hype, money,
&lt;br&gt;and tools. &amp;nbsp;I should have mentioned an extremely important fourth:
&lt;br&gt;applications. &amp;nbsp;A good &amp;quot;killer app&amp;quot; is the quickest way to make any
&lt;br&gt;technology succeed, but we also need infrastructure to support it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We also have to recognize that there are many competing views that
&lt;br&gt;have a lot of merit. &amp;nbsp;Different people have different perspectives,
&lt;br&gt;as the parody &amp;quot;verb conjugations&amp;quot; show:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; I educate, you advertise, and he hypes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my previous note, I called Bertrand Russell a &amp;quot;hype artist&amp;quot;,
&lt;br&gt;but many logicians in the early 20th century regarded him as a hero
&lt;br&gt;for promoting symbolic logic in &amp;quot;competition&amp;quot; with the entrenched
&lt;br&gt;Aristotelian syllogisms. &amp;nbsp;Every university from the middle ages to
&lt;br&gt;the early 20th century had taught Aristotelian logic as a required
&lt;br&gt;course for every freshman.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Aristotle wasn't the competition. &amp;nbsp;The alternative was ignorance.
&lt;br&gt;Russell and other logicians managed to get universities to stop
&lt;br&gt;teaching Aristotle. &amp;nbsp;But they didn't start teaching symbolic logic.
&lt;br&gt;Instead of having 100% of the students taking at least one course in
&lt;br&gt;logic, very few people today take any course in logic. &amp;nbsp;And it shows.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BP&amp;gt; CG's as a pedagogical tool need to be sustained both by intellectual
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; advocacy, and by simple tools... &amp;nbsp;&amp;quot;Concept Maps&amp;quot; have succeeded
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; because of &amp;quot;Inspiration&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;C-Map&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree. &amp;nbsp;I mentioned CMaps in my 1984 book as a useful first step,
&lt;br&gt;and we should encourage people to build tools that help make the
&lt;br&gt;transition from informal CMaps to more formal CGs, EGs, and related
&lt;br&gt;conceptual structures, such as Formal Concept Analysis (FCA).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other graphic tools such as UML, David Cox's FLIPP charts, and many
&lt;br&gt;other kinds of graphical aids can also be mapped to and from CGs.
&lt;br&gt;An important advantage of CGIF is that it is designed for ease of
&lt;br&gt;mapping to and from graphical notations. &amp;nbsp;CGIF has a formal mapping
&lt;br&gt;to CLIF, but instead of parenthesized trees, the structure of CGIF
&lt;br&gt;is an *unordered* set of *nodes*. &amp;nbsp;That makes it much easier to map
&lt;br&gt;CGIF to and from any kind of graphical notation.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BP&amp;gt; But the aspirations of CG are so fundamental that 5th graders
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; may seem an unworthy audience...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is no such thing as an unworthy audience. &amp;nbsp;If you can get
&lt;br&gt;5th graders to start using CGs and EGs, that would be great. &amp;nbsp;But
&lt;br&gt;developing good tools for children is *harder* than developing good
&lt;br&gt;tools for adults. &amp;nbsp;If anybody has any good ideas, please pursue them.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RC&amp;gt; But I think once our perceptions are wired to early experiences,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; they change only with great difficulty.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fads in children's toys come and go very quickly, and even the experts
&lt;br&gt;at companies for toys and educational products have many more failures
&lt;br&gt;than success stories. &amp;nbsp;But if anybody has great ideas, pursue them.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;MC&amp;gt; please have a look to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lirmm.fr/cogui/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lirmm.fr/cogui/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; We are looking forward for your comments.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You and your group deserve a lot of credit for developing the theory
&lt;br&gt;and foundations for an important suite of tools, implementing them,
&lt;br&gt;and using them in a wide range of applications. &amp;nbsp;But we also need
&lt;br&gt;to integrate *all* CG tools with *all* other tools for conceptual
&lt;br&gt;structures (e.g., FCA) and with *all* other tools for knowledge
&lt;br&gt;representation -- e.g., Semantic Web, relational databases, UML
&lt;br&gt;diagrams, etc.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since 1991, the CS community has been working on standards for
&lt;br&gt;knowledge representation, both in our yearly conferences and
&lt;br&gt;in collaboration with ISO and ANSI groups. &amp;nbsp;We had our yearly
&lt;br&gt;workshops on CGIF at ICCS workshops and discussed every detail
&lt;br&gt;on CG list. &amp;nbsp;Harry Delugach worked very hard in getting CGIF
&lt;br&gt;integrated with the Common Logic standard and seeing it through
&lt;br&gt;to an official ISO/IEC standard.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It was a long hard struggle, but I believe that the CL standard is
&lt;br&gt;an excellent foundation for integrating all KR + DB + SemWeb tools.
&lt;br&gt;That is the primary theme of the following tutorial:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/cnl4ss.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/cnl4ss.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Controlled Natural Languages for Semantic Systems
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JS&amp;gt; For exposure and funding, what do you think of the prospects for
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; EGs and CGs in the foundation for cross-disciplinary communication
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; tools in the service science initiative of IBM? As defined by Jim
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; Spohrer, the service science field would be a comprehensive science
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; of human-made systems.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that they would be an excellent foundation. &amp;nbsp;But somebody has
&lt;br&gt;to take the initiative to do the work. &amp;nbsp;We can't just say &amp;quot;Let's you
&lt;br&gt;and him do something.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;Who is going to volunteer? &amp;nbsp;And actually do it?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JS&amp;gt; My own view is that the foundations of the field will need to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; return to the full breadth and complexity of the ideas of Whitehead
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; and Peirce that to this point have been too difficult (or strange)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; for wide adoption.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would agree. &amp;nbsp;But again, somebody has to do the work. &amp;nbsp;We all have
&lt;br&gt;different talents, interests, and opportunities. &amp;nbsp;We can't just go
&lt;br&gt;to Jim Spohrer or anybody else who may have some influence and say
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;Read Whitehead and Peirce.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;(Actually, we could, but I doubt that
&lt;br&gt;we would get any results.) &amp;nbsp;We need to have a concrete proposal with
&lt;br&gt;some concrete plans that some group with funding would support.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anybody have any ideas? &amp;nbsp;And is anybody going to do the work?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26697908</id>
	<title>RE: RE: ] Peirce's graph logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-08T09:56:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-08T09:56:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Polovina, Simon</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Rich, and all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I see that Graham has put the thesis on line at his website - thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As John (Sowa) states, it was 15 years too late but didn't exist online in any shape or form until the British Library recently made it available (after I'd specifically requested it).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As it happens I also used John (Heaton)'s theorem prover in my own PhD (www.polovina.me.uk/PhD), building a GUI for it and calling it CARE (Conceptual Analysis and Review Environment). I used MacProlog which had excellent graphical libraries but was not 32 bit clean, so like John's it's been gathering dust...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone is interested I have John (Heaton)'s and my CARE Prolog code if anyone wishes to take it up (either John's on its own or with my code as they would be two distinct tasks), provided you acknowledge this previous work as appropriate.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: Rich Elk [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26697908&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;richcooperelk@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;Sent: 07 December 2009 18:02
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: [CG:] RE: ] Peirce's graph logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Simon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The link below, i.e.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;doesn't work; it gets me to a site that offers:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; theses some day in the future when the site is working, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; after I have become a member, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; after I have logged in,
&lt;br&gt;and	after I have found the thesis you mentioned. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there a shorter shortcut?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;-Rich
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;Rich Cooper
&lt;br&gt;EnglishLogicKernel.com
&lt;br&gt;Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: [CG:] Peirce's graph logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi CGers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As you know from ICCS year on year I've continually been referring to
&lt;br&gt;Peirce's graph logic in my work, applying it to business applications.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are interested in how Peirce's logic can be incorporated with
&lt;br&gt;conceptual graphs (CG) in a lucid, software-implementable way I would
&lt;br&gt;strongly recommend John Heaton's thesis &amp;quot;Goal driven theorem proving using
&lt;br&gt;conceptual graphs and Peirce logic&amp;quot;, which can be obtained for free from the
&lt;br&gt;British Library:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This work needs re-promoting as without a software tool that support's
&lt;br&gt;Peirce logic as lucidly as John's, its value will always be undermined as I
&lt;br&gt;have discovered from my own teaching experiences.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly John has moved onto other things so is no longer continuing it,
&lt;br&gt;despite my best efforts to encourage him. Nonetheless I'm hoping that this
&lt;br&gt;fascinating work can be kicked off again and further developed to reach its
&lt;br&gt;potential. Exploring Peirce's visualisation of logic with CG would open up
&lt;br&gt;rich educational and commercial opportunities, once we can bring the
&lt;br&gt;productivity of computers to bear upon it. Feel free to take it up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dr. Simon Polovina, Senior Lecturer in Computing
&lt;br&gt;Conceptual Structures Research Group
&lt;br&gt;Sheffield Hallam University, Furnival Building, 153 Arundel St, Sheffield,
&lt;br&gt;UK S1 2NU
&lt;br&gt;Tel: +44 (0)114 225 6825; Web: www.polovina.me.uk
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26685901</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T15:04:27Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T15:04:27Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Janet Singer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">John,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For exposure and funding, what do you think of the prospects for EGs 
&lt;br&gt;and CGs in the foundation for cross-disciplinary communication tools 
&lt;br&gt;in the service science initiative of IBM? As defined by Jim Spohrer, 
&lt;br&gt;the service science field would be a comprehensive science of 
&lt;br&gt;human-made systems. My own view is that the foundations of the field 
&lt;br&gt;will need to return to the full breadth and complexity of the ideas 
&lt;br&gt;of Whitehead and Peirce that to this point have been too difficult 
&lt;br&gt;(or strange) for wide adoption.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Janet
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;JA&amp;gt; It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;imagination that many of us have long believed it should?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I agree. &amp;nbsp;As a starting contribution to that discussion, I'd like
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;to suggest a few reasons:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;1. Hype. &amp;nbsp;Having a good hype artist to drum up support for any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; kind of scientific or engineering development is essential.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; An example is Bertrand Russell, who hyped Peirce-Peano
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; notation for years. &amp;nbsp;He not only succeeded in making it the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; world's most widely used notation for logic, he even got his
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; own name attached in front -- despite the fact that he didn't
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; add a single symbol or punctuation mark to Peano's version,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; and most of the technical material was written by Whitehead.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;2. Money. &amp;nbsp;I used to call SQL the world's worst notation for logic,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; but RDF and OWL have usurped that title. &amp;nbsp;Part of the reason why
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; they are so widely used is hype. &amp;nbsp;But an even larger part is the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; millions of euros that have been dumped on them by Nokia and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; the EU. &amp;nbsp;Thousands of students have been lured into abandoning
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; much more fundamental research by the promise of funding and jobs.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; (And I can't really blame the students.)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;3. Tools. &amp;nbsp;The reason why SQL succeeded (and became, in the words
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; of Michael Stonebraker, &amp;quot;Intergalactic Dataspeak&amp;quot;), is that it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; was supported by tools that proved to be extremely useful.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; There are some EGs and CGs, but they don't work together. &amp;nbsp;We
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; now have an ISO standard for CGIF (a subset of which can also
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; be used as EGIF), but there is a lot of work necessary to make
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; the tools support smooth interoperability.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;SP&amp;gt; John [Heaton] has moved onto other things so is no longer
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;continuing it, despite my best efforts to encourage him.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Actually, I can't blame him. &amp;nbsp;People need a day job that pays
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;the rent, and they're not going to get paid for something like
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;that until it solves problems that people will pay to get solved.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;The Semantic Web had enough hype behind it that people paid long
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;before they saw any results. &amp;nbsp;But without hype or results, it's
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;hard to get money.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;I also had some other comments about John H's thesis, but I'll
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;send them in another note.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;John
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26684451</id>
	<title>Re: Pragmata = Objects?</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T13:26:32Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T13:26:32Z</updated>
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		<name>Jon Awbrey</name>
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	<content type="html">Extremism in the pursuit of pragmatism, especially of the shallower sorts,
&lt;br&gt;has a tendency to fall into nominalism and psychologism. &amp;nbsp;For a while at
&lt;br&gt;the turn of the century, James and maybe Dewey had pragmatism confused
&lt;br&gt;with a short-sighted and overly reductionist version of behaviorism,
&lt;br&gt;but I think they later corrected those excesses, Dewey especially.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26684139</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Pragmata = Objects?</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T13:04:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T13:04:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Janet Singer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My (rough) understanding is that Peirce's primary objections to the 
&lt;br&gt;work of James and Dewey were that they 1) weren't systematic in 
&lt;br&gt;approach, and 2) &amp;quot;faded into nominalism.&amp;quot; Yet Whitehead, who credits 
&lt;br&gt;both James and Dewey as influences in _Process and Reality_ (along 
&lt;br&gt;with Henri Bergson), came up with a systematic speculative philosophy 
&lt;br&gt;that was far from nominalist.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Following your line of thought, that may be because Whitehead--thanks 
&lt;br&gt;to his mathematical training?--had a tolerance for complexity matched 
&lt;br&gt;only by Peirce himself.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Janet
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;There's empiricism, there's radical empiricism,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;and then there's naive empiricism ... somewhere,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;it's hard to tell when, it fades into nominalism.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Why it does that is probably due to an excessive
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;desire for simplicity. &amp;nbsp;Beware of wiki-phrenology!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Jon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;--
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26684094</id>
	<title>Heaton 1994</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T13:00:46Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T13:00:46Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Graham R. Shutt-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Having gone to the trouble to register at the British Library&amp;#39;s EThOS website so that I could download the thesis Simon Polovina mentioned, I decided to post a copy of the thesis on my own website. It is available at:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://grshutt.org/uk_bl_ethos_417019.zip&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;grshutt.org/uk_bl_ethos_417019.zip&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The file is a 16.3 MB .zip file.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Graham&lt;br&gt;&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;Graham R. SHUTT&lt;br&gt;Voice: 206.726.9491&lt;br&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26683807</id>
	<title>Open Access Publishers [split from Pragmata = Objects?]</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T12:42:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T12:42:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Janet Singer</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Gary and John,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This site has a comprehensive list of publisher copyright and 
&lt;br&gt;self-publishing policies:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/browse.php?letter=ALL&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/browse.php?letter=ALL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would also appreciate hearing others' thoughts on access and 
&lt;br&gt;publishing, an issue that seems to strongly implicate Peirce's &amp;quot;Do 
&lt;br&gt;not block the way of inquiry&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Logic is rooted in the social 
&lt;br&gt;principle&amp;quot; (foreshadowing Web 2.0?). Should there be a &amp;quot;pledge&amp;quot; 
&lt;br&gt;publicized in honor of Peirce to raise awareness of the connection 
&lt;br&gt;between progress in research and sociality outside of the Peirce 
&lt;br&gt;community?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Janet
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gary Richmond wrote:
&lt;br&gt;This brings up another topic discussed here some time ago, but for 
&lt;br&gt;which I then thought there was no satisfactory answer offered, 
&lt;br&gt;namely: Why publish in any other than open source publication when so 
&lt;br&gt;many limitations are placed on authors by companies like Routledge? 
&lt;br&gt;And not just on authors. Those scholars who are no longer affiliated 
&lt;br&gt;with a large research institution may also find it difficult 
&lt;br&gt;(expensive) to get access to much scholarly work.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, to get permission from Routledge to place a copy (now 
&lt;br&gt;removed after a six month free access period) of my article on 
&lt;br&gt;Arisbe: The Peirce Gateway site
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cspeirce.com/menu/library/aboutcsp/aboutcsp.htm&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cspeirce.com/menu/library/aboutcsp/aboutcsp.htm&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;took at 
&lt;br&gt;least a dozen exchanges between the editor of Critical Arts, Keyan 
&lt;br&gt;Tomaselli, myself, and several editors at Routledge. It took 
&lt;br&gt;additional correspondence for me to get permission to continue to 
&lt;br&gt;place (after the six month access period) the article on the Arisbe 
&lt;br&gt;site--but *not*, it was stipulated, in its published form, while yet 
&lt;br&gt;giving full publication credit to Routledge (I have not yet had time 
&lt;br&gt;to do that, but thanks for reminding me that I need to recast the 
&lt;br&gt;piece for Arisbe).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any new thoughts by anyone here on this issue of Open Source publication?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa wrote:
&lt;br&gt;Re open source publications: &amp;nbsp;Many respectable organizations,
&lt;br&gt;such as the ACL (Association for Computational Linguistics) put
&lt;br&gt;all their journals and conferences on the WWW for free access.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many other publishers also include a clause in their contracts
&lt;br&gt;that say authors may place a *preprint* on their web sites.
&lt;br&gt;Those preprints may have the same content as the published
&lt;br&gt;version, but in a different format. &amp;nbsp;Others say that authors
&lt;br&gt;may place a copy on their web site, but only after publication
&lt;br&gt;-- sometimes with a waiting period of a year.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26683355</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T12:12:16Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T12:12:16Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Michel Chein</name>
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	<content type="html">Jon,
&lt;br&gt;please have a look to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lirmm.fr/cogui/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.lirmm.fr/cogui/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;We are looking forward for your comments.
&lt;br&gt;All the best,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Michel
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26683355&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bobp@...&lt;/a&gt; a écrit :
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;CG's as a pedagogical tool need to be sustained both by intellectual
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; advocacy, and by simple tools. Concepts need to be teachable at some
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; entry level, and the CG concept needs to be teachable at a level
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; accessible to an elementary school teacher. &amp;quot;Concept Maps&amp;quot; have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; succceeded because of &amp;quot;Inspiration&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;C-Map&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;Semantic Networks&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; haven't had an equivalent tool, but &amp;quot;SemNet&amp;quot; made an attempt. &amp;nbsp; If there
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; were a tool that allowed a 5th grade teacher to use controlled English to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; construct a CG for her students, I would take it upon myself to promote
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it tirelessly. &amp;nbsp;But the aspirations of CG are so fundamental that 5th
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; graders may seem an unworthy audience, even if many adults &amp;quot;aren't
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; smarter than a 5th grader&amp;quot;, to quote the TV show.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bob
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26682222</id>
	<title>RE: Re: Pragmata = Objects?</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T10:55:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T10:55:39Z</updated>
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		<name>Rich Elk</name>
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; insights we get from the web, the internet, all the data&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
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&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;John, you wrote:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;Scientists have always been strongly empirical.&amp;nbsp;
Until the 1960s,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;linguists used data driven methods, including
statistics and what&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;they called &amp;quot;grammar discovery
procedures.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; But Chomsky claimed&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;that data-driven methods were inadequate, and he
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;quot;intuition&amp;quot; of a native speaker as the most
authoritative test&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;for grammaticality.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;Though true, my education, when completed,
was far stronger mathematically than I had expected when I began it. &amp;nbsp;My
orientation is more intuitive I suppose than the typical mathematician's. &amp;nbsp;At
that beginning of my education, I considered math to be abstract, and certainly
not empirical. &amp;nbsp;It was my own past experiences with physics, electronics
and science that made me love EE and hate Chemistry with equal passion.&amp;nbsp; That
was my empirical state of mind at the beginning of my college education. &amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;Especially in EE, we had intensive math
preparation, which was fun and games, but hardly real, and therefore hardly
empirical.&amp;nbsp; It was the intuitions I got from visualizing mathematical
structures against simple real systems I had experienced that helped me
formulate the critical set of EE concepts necessary for understanding the
genre. &amp;nbsp;Everything else built on top of these:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText align=center style='text-align:center'&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;
font-weight:bold'&gt;System ::= &amp;lt;nodes, edges, through variables, across variables&amp;gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;which constitute the complexity of
electronic circuits, field theories, and all the lovely constructs of
engineering. &amp;nbsp;Not just a single experience is encoded in a System, but a
whole field of experiences.&amp;nbsp; The fields are ordered by the logic of known
properties of the problem space. &amp;nbsp;So putting together a solution system
against a set of design specifications is a simple matter.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#8217;s a process
of solving a jigsaw puzzle (specifications) by plugging in the available parts
(slices) and can be automated. &amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;So it is the applying of experience to
math which I view (intuitively) as &amp;quot;empirical&amp;quot;. &amp;nbsp;Do you agree?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black;font-weight:bold'&gt;Experiences understood in
a framework =&amp;gt; Understanding&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;I suppose the above phrase is my view of
empirical processes at work. &lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;Following is what Peirce wrote in 1883:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;CSP&amp;gt; The other physical sciences are the results of
inquiry based&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; on guesses suggested by the ideas of
mechanics. The moral sciences,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; so far as they can be called sciences, are
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; attained to any knowledge that is not in a
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; mechanical or anthropological in its
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; all knowledge is based on experience, and
that science is only&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; advanced by the experimental verifications
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; to place this other equally important
truth, that all human&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; knowledge, up to the highest flights of
science, is but the&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; development of our inborn animal instincts.&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;A sentiment also held up by evolutionary
theorists since then, IMHO.&amp;nbsp; Also, Popper would agree with this viewpoint
in my opinion. &amp;nbsp;We seem to only be able to divert our instincts by small
fractions of their potential range, and even then only with great practice. &amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;But how does this translate into the
meaning of the word &amp;#8220;empirical&amp;#8221;? &amp;nbsp;I get so many conflicting
answers from people about what the word REALLY means. &amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 color=black face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;This is from p. 181 of _Studies in Logic_ by Members
of the&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;Johns Hopkins Univeristy, edited by C. S. Peirce,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
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	<title>RE: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T10:33:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T10:33:35Z</updated>
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		<name>Rich Elk</name>
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	<content type="html">Jon and Bob,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, as a pedagogical tool, CGs might be excellent for teaching kids and
&lt;br&gt;young adults to think in logical terms so that they can imagine solutions to
&lt;br&gt;their problems in more familiar ways. &amp;nbsp;But I think once our perceptions are
&lt;br&gt;wired to early experiences, they change only with great difficulty. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JMHO,
&lt;br&gt;-Rich
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;Rich Cooper
&lt;br&gt;EnglishLogicKernel.com
&lt;br&gt;Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [CG:] Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;CG's as a pedagogical tool need to be sustained both by intellectual
&lt;br&gt;advocacy, and by simple tools. Concepts need to be teachable at some
&lt;br&gt;entry level, and the CG concept needs to be teachable at a level
&lt;br&gt;accessible to an elementary school teacher. &amp;quot;Concept Maps&amp;quot; have
&lt;br&gt;succceeded because of &amp;quot;Inspiration&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;C-Map&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;Semantic Networks&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;haven't had an equivalent tool, but &amp;quot;SemNet&amp;quot; made an attempt. &amp;nbsp; If there
&lt;br&gt;were a tool that allowed a 5th grade teacher to use controlled English to
&lt;br&gt;construct a CG for her students, I would take it upon myself to promote
&lt;br&gt;it tirelessly. &amp;nbsp;But the aspirations of CG are so fundamental that 5th
&lt;br&gt;graders may seem an unworthy audience, even if many adults &amp;quot;aren't
&lt;br&gt;smarter than a 5th grader&amp;quot;, to quote the TV show.
&lt;br&gt;Bob
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	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T10:18:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T10:18:41Z</updated>
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		<name>Robert Parks</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;CG's as a pedagogical tool need to be sustained both by intellectual
&lt;br&gt;advocacy, and by simple tools. Concepts need to be teachable at some
&lt;br&gt;entry level, and the CG concept needs to be teachable at a level
&lt;br&gt;accessible to an elementary school teacher. &amp;quot;Concept Maps&amp;quot; have
&lt;br&gt;succceeded because of &amp;quot;Inspiration&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;C-Map&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;Semantic Networks&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;haven't had an equivalent tool, but &amp;quot;SemNet&amp;quot; made an attempt. &amp;nbsp; If there
&lt;br&gt;were a tool that allowed a 5th grade teacher to use controlled English to
&lt;br&gt;construct a CG for her students, I would take it upon myself to promote
&lt;br&gt;it tirelessly. &amp;nbsp;But the aspirations of CG are so fundamental that 5th
&lt;br&gt;graders may seem an unworthy audience, even if many adults &amp;quot;aren't
&lt;br&gt;smarter than a 5th grader&amp;quot;, to quote the TV show.
&lt;br&gt;Bob
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	<title>RE: ] Re: Pragmata = Objects?</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T10:10:24Z</published>
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		<name>Rich Elk</name>
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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
10.0pt'&gt;Jon,&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
10.0pt'&gt;Agreed, the desire to project simplicity is a force majeur in human
motivations, at least in mine; the others are on their own. &amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
10.0pt'&gt;And later you posted:&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical
graphs have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical imagination
that many of us have long believed it should?&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;&lt;o:p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in'&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:10.0pt'&gt;Jon&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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10.0pt'&gt;I think that part is easy: CGs demand that the user function in CG
defined ways, with CG defined objects, etc, without using his intuition or her
problem knowledge. &amp;nbsp;&lt;o:p&gt;&lt;/o:p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class=MsoPlainText&gt;&lt;font size=2 face=&quot;Courier New&quot;&gt;&lt;span style='font-size:
10.0pt'&gt;It&amp;#8217;s the same mismatch as the old rule based systems that were
supposed to take over the world in the 80's, 90's, 00's and soon the 10's. &amp;nbsp;People,
for good reason, express an intense desire for THEIR OWN simplicity in their
actions and choices, and CGs simplify into logic, not into the problem space. &amp;nbsp;People
simplify into their own subjective toolbox to find ways and means for
addressing problems that motivate them, not the logic of it, which doesn't
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	<title>RE: ] Peirce's graph logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T10:01:43Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T10:01:43Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rich Elk</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Simon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The link below, i.e.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;doesn't work; it gets me to a site that offers:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; theses some day in the future when the site is working, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; after I have become a member, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; after I have logged in,
&lt;br&gt;and	after I have found the thesis you mentioned. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there a shorter shortcut?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;-Rich
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;Sincerely,
&lt;br&gt;Rich Cooper
&lt;br&gt;EnglishLogicKernel.com
&lt;br&gt;Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com
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&lt;br&gt;From: Polovina, Simon [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26681289&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;S.Polovina@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:37 AM
&lt;br&gt;To: '&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26681289&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cg@...&lt;/a&gt;'
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [CG:] Peirce's graph logic
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi CGers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As you know from ICCS year on year I've continually been referring to
&lt;br&gt;Peirce's graph logic in my work, applying it to business applications.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are interested in how Peirce's logic can be incorporated with
&lt;br&gt;conceptual graphs (CG) in a lucid, software-implementable way I would
&lt;br&gt;strongly recommend John Heaton's thesis &amp;quot;Goal driven theorem proving using
&lt;br&gt;conceptual graphs and Peirce logic&amp;quot;, which can be obtained for free from the
&lt;br&gt;British Library:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This work needs re-promoting as without a software tool that support's
&lt;br&gt;Peirce logic as lucidly as John's, its value will always be undermined as I
&lt;br&gt;have discovered from my own teaching experiences.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly John has moved onto other things so is no longer continuing it,
&lt;br&gt;despite my best efforts to encourage him. Nonetheless I'm hoping that this
&lt;br&gt;fascinating work can be kicked off again and further developed to reach its
&lt;br&gt;potential. Exploring Peirce's visualisation of logic with CG would open up
&lt;br&gt;rich educational and commercial opportunities, once we can bring the
&lt;br&gt;productivity of computers to bear upon it. Feel free to take it up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dr. Simon Polovina, Senior Lecturer in Computing
&lt;br&gt;Conceptual Structures Research Group
&lt;br&gt;Sheffield Hallam University, Furnival Building, 153 Arundel St, Sheffield,
&lt;br&gt;UK S1 2NU
&lt;br&gt;Tel: +44 (0)114 225 6825; Web: www.polovina.me.uk
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26678120</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T06:35:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T06:35:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Simon and Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SP&amp;gt; If you are interested in how Peirce's logic can be incorporated
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; with conceptual graphs (CG) in a lucid, software-implementable way
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; I would strongly recommend John Heaton's thesis &amp;quot;Goal driven theorem
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; proving using conceptual graphs and Peirce logic&amp;quot;, which can be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; obtained for free from the British Library:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.41701&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.41701&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for posting this notice to CG list. &amp;nbsp;And I would like to urge
&lt;br&gt;everybody else who has written anything related to the themes of this
&lt;br&gt;list to please post a notice (and URL) to CG list. &amp;nbsp;I have been urging
&lt;br&gt;people to do that for years, but very few do. &amp;nbsp;This dissertation was
&lt;br&gt;written in 1994, and it's 15 years late.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Note to Heather: &amp;nbsp;I think that we should gather as many dissertations
&lt;br&gt;and other publications on CGs as we can find (and get permission for)
&lt;br&gt;and put them on conceptualgraphs.org. &amp;nbsp;We should also put FCA and
&lt;br&gt;other related publications on conceptualstructures.org
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thesis by John Heaton, for example, requires a lengthy registration
&lt;br&gt;process, which is a nuisance. &amp;nbsp;It would be much better to have it
&lt;br&gt;available for a one-click download on conceptualgraphs.org
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JA&amp;gt; It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; imagination that many of us have long believed it should?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I agree. &amp;nbsp;As a starting contribution to that discussion, I'd like
&lt;br&gt;to suggest a few reasons:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 1. Hype. &amp;nbsp;Having a good hype artist to drum up support for any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;kind of scientific or engineering development is essential.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;An example is Bertrand Russell, who hyped Peirce-Peano
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;notation for years. &amp;nbsp;He not only succeeded in making it the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;world's most widely used notation for logic, he even got his
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;own name attached in front -- despite the fact that he didn't
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;add a single symbol or punctuation mark to Peano's version,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;and most of the technical material was written by Whitehead.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 2. Money. &amp;nbsp;I used to call SQL the world's worst notation for logic,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;but RDF and OWL have usurped that title. &amp;nbsp;Part of the reason why
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;they are so widely used is hype. &amp;nbsp;But an even larger part is the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;millions of euros that have been dumped on them by Nokia and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;the EU. &amp;nbsp;Thousands of students have been lured into abandoning
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;much more fundamental research by the promise of funding and jobs.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;(And I can't really blame the students.)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; 3. Tools. &amp;nbsp;The reason why SQL succeeded (and became, in the words
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;of Michael Stonebraker, &amp;quot;Intergalactic Dataspeak&amp;quot;), is that it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;was supported by tools that proved to be extremely useful.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;There are some EGs and CGs, but they don't work together. &amp;nbsp;We
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;now have an ISO standard for CGIF (a subset of which can also
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;be used as EGIF), but there is a lot of work necessary to make
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;the tools support smooth interoperability.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SP&amp;gt; John [Heaton] has moved onto other things so is no longer
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; continuing it, despite my best efforts to encourage him.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Actually, I can't blame him. &amp;nbsp;People need a day job that pays
&lt;br&gt;the rent, and they're not going to get paid for something like
&lt;br&gt;that until it solves problems that people will pay to get solved.
&lt;br&gt;The Semantic Web had enough hype behind it that people paid long
&lt;br&gt;before they saw any results. &amp;nbsp;But without hype or results, it's
&lt;br&gt;hard to get money.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also had some other comments about John H's thesis, but I'll
&lt;br&gt;send them in another note.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26676986</id>
	<title>Re: Peirce's Graphical Logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T05:04:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T05:04:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jon Awbrey</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">It might be time to examine why Peirce's logical graphs
&lt;br&gt;have failed to capture the pedagogical and philosophical
&lt;br&gt;imagination that many of us have long believed it should?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26676942</id>
	<title>Re: Pragmata = Objects?</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T05:00:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T05:00:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jon Awbrey</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">There's empiricism, there's radical empiricism,
&lt;br&gt;and then there's naive empiricism ... somewhere,
&lt;br&gt;it's hard to tell when, it fades into nominalism.
&lt;br&gt;Why it does that is probably due to an excessive
&lt;br&gt;desire for simplicity. &amp;nbsp;Beware of wiki-phrenology!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26676063</id>
	<title>Peirce's graph logic</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T03:37:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T03:37:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Polovina, Simon</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi CGers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As you know from ICCS year on year I've continually been referring to Peirce's graph logic in my work, applying it to business applications.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are interested in how Peirce's logic can be incorporated with conceptual graphs (CG) in a lucid, software-implementable way I would strongly recommend John Heaton's thesis &amp;quot;Goal driven theorem proving using conceptual graphs and Peirce logic&amp;quot;, which can be obtained for free from the British Library: &lt;a href=&quot;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://ethos.bl.uk/OrderDetails.do?did=1&amp;uin=uk.bl.ethos.417019&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This work needs re-promoting as without a software tool that support's Peirce logic as lucidly as John's, its value will always be undermined as I have discovered from my own teaching experiences.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sadly John has moved onto other things so is no longer continuing it, despite my best efforts to encourage him. Nonetheless I'm hoping that this fascinating work can be kicked off again and further developed to reach its potential. Exploring Peirce's visualisation of logic with CG would open up rich educational and commercial opportunities, once we can bring the productivity of computers to bear upon it. Feel free to take it up.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dr. Simon Polovina, Senior Lecturer in Computing
&lt;br&gt;Conceptual Structures Research Group
&lt;br&gt;Sheffield Hallam University, Furnival Building, 153 Arundel St, Sheffield, UK S1 2NU
&lt;br&gt;Tel: +44 (0)114 225 6825; Web: www.polovina.me.uk
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26674199</id>
	<title>Re: Re: Pragmata = Objects?</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T00:41:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T00:41:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John F. Sowa</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Gary and Rich,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Re open source publications: &amp;nbsp;Many respectable organizations,
&lt;br&gt;such as the ACL (Association for Computational Linguistics) put
&lt;br&gt;all their journals and conferences on the WWW for free access.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many other publishers also include a clause in their contracts
&lt;br&gt;that say authors may place a *preprint* on their web sites.
&lt;br&gt;Those preprints may have the same content as the published
&lt;br&gt;version, but in a different format. &amp;nbsp;Others say that authors
&lt;br&gt;may place a copy on their web site, but only after publication
&lt;br&gt;-- sometimes with a waiting period of a year.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RC&amp;gt; It seems to me that empiricism is returning due to the new
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; insights we get from the web, the internet, all the data
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; intensive knowledge of the last twenty or thirty years.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Scientists have always been strongly empirical. &amp;nbsp;Until the 1960s,
&lt;br&gt;linguists used data driven methods, including statistics and what
&lt;br&gt;they called &amp;quot;grammar discovery procedures.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp;But Chomsky claimed
&lt;br&gt;that data-driven methods were inadequate, and he argued for the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;intuition&amp;quot; of a native speaker as the most authoritative test
&lt;br&gt;for grammaticality.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Following is what Peirce wrote in 1883:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CSP&amp;gt; The other physical sciences are the results of inquiry based
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; on guesses suggested by the ideas of mechanics. The moral sciences,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; so far as they can be called sciences, are equally developed out
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; of our instinctive ideas about human nature. Man has thus far not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; attained to any knowledge that is not in a wide sense either
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; mechanical or anthropological in its nature, and it may be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; reasonably presumed that he never will.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; Side by side, then, with the well established proposition that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; all knowledge is based on experience, and that science is only
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; advanced by the experimental verifications of theories, we have
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; to place this other equally important truth, that all human
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; knowledge, up to the highest flights of science, is but the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;gt; development of our inborn animal instincts.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is from p. 181 of _Studies in Logic_ by Members of the
&lt;br&gt;Johns Hopkins Univeristy, edited by C. S. Peirce,
&lt;br&gt;Little, Brown, &amp; Co., Boston, 1883.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John Sowa
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26672547</id>
	<title>RE: Re: Pragmata = Objects?</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T21:00:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T21:00:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Janet Singer</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;!doctype html public &quot;-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN&quot;&gt;
&lt;html&gt;&lt;head&gt;&lt;title&gt;RE: [CG:] Re: Pragmata =
Objects?&lt;/title&gt;&lt;/head&gt;&lt;body&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Rich,&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I know little about William James, but here's something on the
topic of his &amp;quot;radical empiricism&amp;quot;:&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;[James] was convinced rather early in his life that
so-called scientific empiricism was not sufficiently empirical. Why
limit the analysis of experience to sense-data? What about memory, and
the vague feeling of &amp;quot;something there&amp;quot; which underlies
sensation? What about the feelings of relations and the feelings of
worth, intentionality, and responsibility? And what about mystical
experiences, hallucinations, drug-induced trances, and what James
called the &amp;quot;fringes&amp;quot; of experience, which surround normal
waking consciousness? What is given in experience greatly exceeds what
is given through the senses. Why limit oneself to sensation? If
empiricism is to be radical, it must take, as James put it in 1903,
&amp;quot;the concrete data of experience in their full completeness. The
only fully complete data are, however, the successive moments of our
own several histories, taken with their 'objective' deliverance of
'content.'&amp;quot; The content of human experience, the only sort of
experience available to humans, is much, much more than
sensations.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;Marcus P. Ford on James, in&amp;nbsp; _Founders of
Constructive Postmodern Philosophy: Peirce, James, Bergson, Whitehead,
and Hartshorne_, ed. D.R. Griffin (1993), quoting W. James, _Collected
Essays and Reviews_ (1920), p.93.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;I agree with your sense of the trend.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;Janet&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;Janet,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Please describe the &amp;quot;radical empiricism&amp;quot; concept you
attributed to William&lt;br&gt;
James' passing on to Whitehead; the term (&amp;quot;radical
empiricism&amp;quot;) sounds very&lt;br&gt;
interesting as a comparison to the formality of representation
(mathematical&lt;br&gt;
ontology) so prevalent prior to the emergence of huge
databases.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
It seems to me that empiricism is returning due to the new insights we
get&lt;br&gt;
from the web, the internet, all the data intensive knowledge of the
last&lt;br&gt;
twenty or thirty years.&amp;nbsp; &amp;quot;Radical empiricism&amp;quot; (whatever
it means) must be&lt;br&gt;
based on evidence, and data is evidence of SOMETHING, though we may
never&lt;br&gt;
know entirely what empirical data can show us.&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Thanks,&lt;br&gt;
-Rich&lt;br&gt;
&amp;nbsp;&lt;br&gt;
Sincerely,&lt;br&gt;
Rich Cooper&lt;br&gt;
EnglishLogicKernel.com&lt;br&gt;
Rich AT EnglishLogicKernel DOT com&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
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Subject: Re: [CG:] Re: Pragmata = Objects?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Gary,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Thanks for the references. Peirce's emphasis on continuity is an&lt;br&gt;
interesting contrast with (complement to?) Whitehead's relational&lt;br&gt;
atomism.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
My understanding is that Whitehead did not directly read Peirce's&lt;br&gt;
work until late in his life, but developed many similar ideas&lt;br&gt;
independently after being inspired by William James to
systematically&lt;br&gt;
explore the implications of James's &amp;quot;radical&amp;nbsp;
empiricism&amp;quot;. Presumably&lt;br&gt;
James would have communicated some elements of Peirce's views to&lt;br&gt;
Whitehead. Are the details of these interactions known?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;Best,&lt;br&gt;
Janet&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;Janet,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;Thanks for the Whitehead quotation which I think is just to
the&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;point. It would seem that while some distinctions need to be
made&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;for the purpose of certain sorts of analysis, rigidity is surely
to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;be avoided. This rather nicely connects with Peirce's principle
of&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;fallibility:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;quot;For years [---] I used for myself to collect my ideas under
the&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;designation fallibilism; and indeed the first step toward
finding&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;out is to acknowledge you do not satisfactorily know already;
so&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;that no blight can so surely arrest all intellectual growth as
the&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;blight of cocksureness; and ninety-nine out of every hundred
good&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;heads are reduced to impotence by that malady -- of whose
inroads&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;they are most strangely unaware!&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Indeed, out of a contrite
fallibilism, combined with a high&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;faith in the reality of knowledge, and an intense desire to
find&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;things out, all my philosophy has always seemed to me to grow. .
.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;.&amp;quot; (A Fragment, CP 1.13-14, c. 1897)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;And to take this yet a step further, Peirce connects fallibilism
and&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;continuity!&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;quot;The principle of continuity is the idea of fallibilism
objectified.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;For fallibilism is the doctrine that
our knowledge is never absolute&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;but always swims, as it were, in a continuum of uncertainty and
of&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;indeterminacy. Now the doctrine of
continuity is that all things so&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;swim in continua.&amp;quot; (Untitled
Ms., CP 1.171, c. 1897)&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;Best,&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;Gary&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;blockquote type=&quot;cite&quot; cite&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Pardon this late contribution to the
discussion by a&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; lurker, but John Sowa's point;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; [R-W Mann] suggests that the
sharp distinction&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; between processes and things
was invented by&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Aristotle, and it's a mistake
to talk about it as&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; an inevitable &amp;quot;common
sense&amp;quot; view.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; reminded me of this wisdom from Whitehead
on&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Aristotle and rigid distinctions:&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It is rigid dogma that destroys
truth; and, please&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; notice, my emphasis is not on
the dogma, but on&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; the rigidity. When men say of
any question, 'This&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; is all there is to be known or
said of the&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; subject; investigation ends
here,' that is death.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; It may be that the mischief
comes not from the&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; thinker but for the use made of
his thinking by&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; late-comers. Aristotle, for
example, gave us out&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; scientific technique ... yet
his logical&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; propositions, his instruction
in sound reasoning&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; which was bequeathed to Europe,
are valid only&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; within the limited framework of
formal logic, and,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; as used in Europe, they
stultified the minds of&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; whole generations of medieval
Schoolmen. Aristotle&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; invented science, but destroyed
philosophy.&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; (from Dialogues of Alfred North
Whitehead, as&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; recorded by Lucien Price,
p.165, with thanks to&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;http://www.todayinsci.com/QuotationsCategories/R_Cat/Rigidity&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;-Quotations.h&lt;br&gt;
tm)&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Thanks for the interesting discussion,&lt;br&gt;
&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Janet Singer&lt;br&gt;
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