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Crear Distribuicion basada en DEBIAN

by Gilson-2 :: Rate this Message:

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PORTUGUES-BRASIL
Olá

Eu montei uma distribuição baseada inteiramente em Debian com ambiente gráfico KDE e os pacotes Debian, foi com um ambiente muito amigável, com  scripts automatizados para configuração e compilei um kernel com o nome da minha distro e tudo mais.

Bem, minha pergunta é, eu gostaria de começar a distribuir  a principio gratuitamente em varios idiomas, e quero saber se posso fazer o registo da propriedade intelectual e pode ser distribuído gratuitamente e também saber se poderia vender e comercializar a minha distro?

Abaixo indica um link para assistir ao vídeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y986UBqkH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwH90-fpQTA&feature=related

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ESPAÑOL - ESPAÑA
Hola

Yo monte una distribución basada enteramente en DEBIAN, con entorno gráfico KDE y paquetes Debian, lo hice con un entorno muy amigable, con scripts automatizados de conflagración y además compile un kernel con el nombre de mi distro y todo.

Bueno mi pregunta es, ¿Yo quiero distribuir esta distro a principio de manera gratuita en algunos idiomas para eso estoy preparando en varios idiomas y me gustaría saber se puedo hacer el registro de propiedad intelectual y se puede distribuir de manera gratuita y además si quisiera vender se podría?

Abajo indico un link para ver el video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y986UBqkH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwH90-fpQTA&feature=related

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ENGLISH

Hello

I mount a distribution based entirely on Debian with KDE graphical environment and Debian packages, it was with a very friendly environment, with automated scripts conflagration and compiled a kernel with the name of my distro and all.

Well my question is, do I want this distro to start distributing free on some language for that I am preparing in several languages and want to know is can I do the registration of intellectual property and can be distributed free of charge and also if he wanted to sell could?

Below indicates a link to watch video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y986UBqkH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwH90-fpQTA&feature=related


Saudações e fico no aguardo de sua resposta.

Un saludo y me quedo esperando su contestación

A greeting and I'm waiting your reply


Re: Crear Distribuicion basada en DEBIAN

by Andre Felipe Machado-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello, Gilson
Thanks for your message.
This is only a first clarification. You should also contact debian-legal list
[0] asking for correct info.
I watched your videos and I will point about some issues regarding your new
distro that you should search for more details to avoid legal troubles.
1- Intelectual property registration (patents), copyright, rebranding.
2- FOSS licences and relicensing.
3- "Selling" FOSS software or "selling services".
4- Proprietary, troubled software, licenses and redistribution.

1.1
You should contact your patents and branding lawyer to ask for legal guidance.
This message is only informational to bring some subjects to your attention and
not, by any means, legal advice. "IP" is not a legal term. It is a broad
"marketing buzz umbrella" mixing/confusing various legal concepts. Software
patents are not recognized in Brasil nor most of countries. Brasil law does not
recognize patents over methods and algorithms. Copyright is recognized. Branding
registration is, too.
AFAIK, you _"may"_ rebrand *PURE* FOSS sw [1] [2] contained in *"main" section*
of Debian repository, AS FAR YOU RESPECT EACH SW LICENSE (some licenses PROHIBIT
rebranding under some circunstances or modifications using the same brand as the
one used by Mozilla Firefox).

2.1
Most, but not all, FOSS licenses [3] does NOT allow relicensing. You MUST
distribute a given sw under the SAME license. And it may prohibit rebranding,
reselling, relicensing, etc. Evaluate case by case. But, for start, the "main"
section is a safe place.

3.1
AFAIK, you could not "sell" FOSS sw, as their license explain. You could sell
services, convenience, related material. Boxed CD, DVD, manuals, documentation,
high speed downloads, compiled binaries, tech support, etc. And the source code
should be available to all customers in some way. You could provide the source
only to the customers, and under request, even at a "nominal fee" for media, but
at least they MUST have the choice to get the source.
Evaluate the Canonical and Red Hat examples.
Red Hat offers compiled binaries only to their customers. And does not allow
others to use their brand (see the CentOS reasoning). They sell boxed cd, dvd,
download, tech support. Source code is available.
Canonical takes snapshots of some sw at Debian unstable main repository each 6
months, put efforts to clean enough bugs to its purposes, add some proprietary
sw and some branded sw at boxed and contracted versions (not at the freely
available), and rebrand the distro and sell support services.
Study and collect correct up to date details at their respective sites.


4.1
By the videos, you may be using some proprietary sw, or some legaly troubled sw.
You may be using some codecs, drivers, advanced window manager, and Skype and
VmWare sw.
Most proprietary sw does not allow redistribution without a signed agreement.
Most proprietary sw does not allow rebranding and, even less, relicensing.
Some mathematical concepts and algorithms are patented in some countries
(codecs, file formats...) and you could not redistribute freely at whole world
even clean room new implementations using such algorithms or file formats. Only
to countries not patenting sw methods.
It "seems" that you use the beautiful but unfortunate Advanced Window Manager,
that seemed like the Mac interface. Apple pursuited its patents and such sw was
removed from most distro repositories.

Good luck.
Andre Felipe Machado



[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/
[1] http://www.debian.org/intro/free
[2] http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines
[3] http://www.opensource.org/licenses



Re: Crear Distribuicion basada en DEBIAN

by Andre Felipe Machado-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello, Gilson
My misktake about Avant Window Navigator. It is still at repositories.
Regards.
Andre Felipe

[0] http://packages.debian.org/lenny/avant-window-navigator

Re: Crear Distribuicion basada en DEBIAN

by Gustavo Noronha Silva :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 11:08 +0100, Gilson wrote:

> Bem, minha pergunta é, eu gostaria de começar a distribuir  a
> principio gratuitamente em varios idiomas, e quero saber se posso
> fazer o registo da propriedade intelectual e pode ser distribuído
> gratuitamente e também saber se poderia vender e comercializar a minha
> distro?

Isso não é aconselhamento legal, o melhor mesmo é procurar um advogado.

Você pode comercializar sua distribuição, sim. Mas você tem que prestar
atenção aos requerimentos das licenças dos diversos softwares que a
compõe. Por exemplo, a GPL exige que você, ao distribuir sua
distribuição, distribua também o fonte na mesma mídia ou encaminhe uma
oferta por escrito para que a pessoa possa solicitar o fonte por pelo
menos 3 anos. Apontar pra ftp.debian.org _não_ é suficiente. Você mesmo
tem que manter os fontes disponíveis.

Eu vi no vídeo rapidamente que tem um ícone do Skype. Software
proprietário como skype, driver da Nvidia, vmware, etc geralmente tem
licenças muito mais restritivas e não permitem que você os distribua,
então eu sugiro que você leia as licenças de cada software que quiser
incluir e confira com as empresas relevantes.

Que eu saiba Mac OS X não é licenciado para rodar em máquinas virtuais,
também, então eu sugeriria você tirar demonstrações com ele do seu vídeo
(bem como a música, a menos que você tenha feito um acordo com a
gravadora para utilizá-la).

Até,

--
Gustavo Noronha Silva <kov@...>
Debian


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