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D-Bus 1.3.0 released
I've just released D-Bus 1.3.0:
http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus/dbus-1.3.0.tar.gzI'd post a shortlog, but I think it contains a lot of duplicated information
from previous 1.2.x releases.
In any case, the major features available are the fd-passing algorithm, the
feature negotiation and the thread-safe setting of FD_CLOEXEC.
No Windows or Mac improvements are included in this release. I plan on
including the Mac auto-launch code on D-Bus 1.3.1. See
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 for the status.
I'm still waiting on a reply by the current porting team about Windows
support. Last we talked, they indicated tests passed.
I have received no communication about the single-precision float support. At
this point, it looks like this feature will not make into D-Bus 1.4.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Thiago Macieira< thiago@...> wrote:
> I've just released D-Bus 1.3.0:
Awesome!
> In any case, the major features available are the fd-passing algorithm, the
> feature negotiation and the thread-safe setting of FD_CLOEXEC.
FYI, I have an open bug about changes related to that not building on OSX:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22888> No Windows or Mac improvements are included in this release. I plan on
> including the Mac auto-launch code on D-Bus 1.3.1. See
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 for the status.
I've put up fresh versions of all the patches, cleaned up, and tested
by a few fink users and myself (10.4 and 10.5, x86 and PPC) and
everything appears to be working fine. Thanks for all the
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
Em Quarta-feira 29 Julho 2009, às 17:21:05, Benjamin Reed escreveu:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 8:28 AM, Thiago Macieira< thiago@...> wrote:
> > I've just released D-Bus 1.3.0:
>
> Awesome!
>
> > In any case, the major features available are the fd-passing algorithm,
> > the feature negotiation and the thread-safe setting of FD_CLOEXEC.
>
> FYI, I have an open bug about changes related to that not building on OSX:
>
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22888Patches applied, bug closed.
> > No Windows or Mac improvements are included in this release. I plan on
> > including the Mac auto-launch code on D-Bus 1.3.1. See
> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 for the status.
>
> I've put up fresh versions of all the patches, cleaned up, and tested
> by a few fink users and myself (10.4 and 10.5, x86 and PPC) and
> everything appears to be working fine. Thanks for all the
> help/feedback.
Let's give you all a few days of testing, then I'll apply the patch.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
Hi Thiago,
> I've just released D-Bus 1.3.0:
>
> http://dbus.freedesktop.org/releases/dbus/dbus-1.3.0.tar.gz>
> I'd post a shortlog, but I think it contains a lot of duplicated information
> from previous 1.2.x releases.
>
> In any case, the major features available are the fd-passing algorithm, the
> feature negotiation and the thread-safe setting of FD_CLOEXEC.
>
> No Windows or Mac improvements are included in this release. I plan on
> including the Mac auto-launch code on D-Bus 1.3.1. See
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 for the status.
there has been no feedback here. Should we just assume no feedback is
positive and go ahead and include the patches?
> I'm still waiting on a reply by the current porting team about Windows
> support. Last we talked, they indicated tests passed.
Since there has been no response so far, I think that feature should be
removed from the D-Bus 1.4 list. They can try again once 1.4 has been
released.
> I have received no communication about the single-precision float support. At
> this point, it looks like this feature will not make into D-Bus 1.4.
I haven't seen any feedback on this. So this is clearly not a 1.4
feature anymore. A little bit sad, but if nobody cares then it is also
not worth it.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Marcel Holtmann< marcel@...> wrote:
>> No Windows or Mac improvements are included in this release. I plan on
>> including the Mac auto-launch code on D-Bus 1.3.1. See
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 for the status.
>
> there has been no feedback here. Should we just assume no feedback is
> positive and go ahead and include the patches?
+1 from me.
The only part that should be held back is the DISPLAY stuff, which
appears to not solve the original issue it was designed for,
unfortunately.
The other patches should be ready, as far as I can tell; they've been
running in Fink with no major reports other than the DISPLAY patch.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
Benjamin Reed wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Marcel Holtmann< marcel@...>
wrote:
>>> No Windows or Mac improvements are included in this release. I plan
>>> on including the Mac auto-launch code on D-Bus 1.3.1. See
>>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 for the status.
>>
>> there has been no feedback here. Should we just assume no feedback is
>> positive and go ahead and include the patches?
>
>+1 from me.
>
>The only part that should be held back is the DISPLAY stuff, which
>appears to not solve the original issue it was designed for,
>unfortunately.
>
>The other patches should be ready, as far as I can tell; they've been
>running in Fink with no major reports other than the DISPLAY patch.
Agreed too.
We'll include the Mac auto-launch and release 1.3.1.
There's also a contribution in Bugzilla to make the rule checking in the
daemon faster than O(n). Right now, the rules are stored in a list and
every message must be checked against each rule, individually.
I haven't read the patch yet though, but this sounds like a good feature
for 1.3/1.4 too.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
Hi Thiago,
> >>> No Windows or Mac improvements are included in this release. I plan
> >>> on including the Mac auto-launch code on D-Bus 1.3.1. See
> >>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14259 for the status.
> >>
> >> there has been no feedback here. Should we just assume no feedback is
> >> positive and go ahead and include the patches?
> >
> >+1 from me.
> >
> >The only part that should be held back is the DISPLAY stuff, which
> >appears to not solve the original issue it was designed for,
> >unfortunately.
> >
> >The other patches should be ready, as far as I can tell; they've been
> >running in Fink with no major reports other than the DISPLAY patch.
>
> Agreed too.
>
> We'll include the Mac auto-launch and release 1.3.1.
sounds good.
> There's also a contribution in Bugzilla to make the rule checking in the
> daemon faster than O(n). Right now, the rules are stored in a list and
> every message must be checked against each rule, individually.
>
> I haven't read the patch yet though, but this sounds like a good feature
> for 1.3/1.4 too.
Together with the at_console stuff mentioned by Lennart this could
become 1.3.2 and then we should be focusing on stabilizing it for the
final 1.4 release.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
Em Quinta-feira 06 Agosto 2009, às 08:37:50, Marcel Holtmann escreveu:
> Together with the at_console stuff mentioned by Lennart this could
> become 1.3.2 and then we should be focusing on stabilizing it for the
> final 1.4 release.
I'm a bit more skeptical about the at_console stuff. Some more input from the
distros on whether they use it or not would be nice.
I'm skeptical because I've just had a bad experience with PolKit [*]. I'm not
sure distros are using it as they should, so we could be breaking stuff.
[*] I found out yesterday that I can't mount my external HD anymore because
HAL denies me permissions and I couldn't get PolKit to tell it to let me (and
that was after reading PolicyKit's manpage talking about "Override the active
stanza for the given action with the supplied value" when I have no clue what
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
Hi Thiago,
> > Together with the at_console stuff mentioned by Lennart this could
> > become 1.3.2 and then we should be focusing on stabilizing it for the
> > final 1.4 release.
>
> I'm a bit more skeptical about the at_console stuff. Some more input from the
> distros on whether they use it or not would be nice.
personally I think that leaving at_console in for 1.4 and cleaning it up
would be the best. And then target the removal for the 1.6 release.
If the discussion about at_console would delay the 1.4 release, then I
vote for leaving that out for now. It is more important to get the 1.4
release out so we can actually profit from the new features.
> I'm skeptical because I've just had a bad experience with PolKit [*]. I'm not
> sure distros are using it as they should, so we could be breaking stuff.
>
>
> [*] I found out yesterday that I can't mount my external HD anymore because
> HAL denies me permissions and I couldn't get PolKit to tell it to let me (and
> that was after reading PolicyKit's manpage talking about "Override the active
> stanza for the given action with the supplied value" when I have no clue what
> an active stanza is)
That would be best answered by David Zeuthen :)
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Thu, 06.08.09 13:51, Marcel Holtmann ( marcel@...) wrote:
>
> Hi Thiago,
>
> > > Together with the at_console stuff mentioned by Lennart this could
> > > become 1.3.2 and then we should be focusing on stabilizing it for the
> > > final 1.4 release.
> >
> > I'm a bit more skeptical about the at_console stuff. Some more input from the
> > distros on whether they use it or not would be nice.
>
> personally I think that leaving at_console in for 1.4 and cleaning it up
> would be the best. And then target the removal for the 1.6 release.
>
> If the discussion about at_console would delay the 1.4 release, then I
> vote for leaving that out for now. It is more important to get the 1.4
> release out so we can actually profit from the new features.
I have now decided to add native consolekit support to D-Bus and keep
at_console around for a while given that at least on Fedora a
non-trivial number of D-Bus policy files still use it.
Right now D-Bus already supports pam_console style /var/run/console
support as well as Solaris style /dev/console support. I have now
added a third kind of checking: using the CK database.
That patch is mostly ready, I'll probably post it later today.
After that's done I'll write a tiny patch that logs to syslog whenever
it encounters a policy file that still uses at_console.
If that patch should or should not delay 1.4 I don't know. I am still
hoping that for the F12 time-frame we can get the session.d/ mess in CK
fixed, and this is part of that work.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
Marcel Holtmann wrote:
>Hi Thiago,
>
>> > Together with the at_console stuff mentioned by Lennart this could
>> > become 1.3.2 and then we should be focusing on stabilizing it for
>> > the final 1.4 release.
>>
>> I'm a bit more skeptical about the at_console stuff. Some more input
>> from the distros on whether they use it or not would be nice.
>
>personally I think that leaving at_console in for 1.4 and cleaning it up
>would be the best. And then target the removal for the 1.6 release.
>
>If the discussion about at_console would delay the 1.4 release, then I
>vote for leaving that out for now. It is more important to get the 1.4
>release out so we can actually profit from the new features.
I don't want my personal problems and bad experience with Polkit to
influence the decision. I just want to make sure that we're doing the right
thing: if depending on polkit will break distros because they haven't set
up polkit correctly, then we should rethink.
In any case, you seem to be in a rush to get the 1.4 release out. I'd like
to get at least one binding supporting fd-passing before we release --
preferably two. And at least get it tested with a non-libdbus
implementation.
I'm trying to find the time to do it for QtDBus. Who can implement it for
dbus-glib? How about Python?
Matthew, are you planning on implementing the feature on Java? How about
the feature negotiation, is that planned at all?
Alp, how about N-Desk D-Bus?
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Thu, 06.08.09 23:22, Lennart Poettering ( mzqohf@...) wrote:
> I have now decided to add native consolekit support to D-Bus and keep
> at_console around for a while given that at least on Fedora a
> non-trivial number of D-Bus policy files still use it.
>
> Right now D-Bus already supports pam_console style /var/run/console
> support as well as Solaris style /dev/console support. I have now
> added a third kind of checking: using the CK database.
>
> That patch is mostly ready, I'll probably post it later today.
OK, this patch set is now ready. Was a bit more work then I estimated,
a series of 8 patches.
Here's the repo:
http://git.0pointer.de/?p=dbus.git git://git.0pointer.de/dbus.git
This also includes a patch that enables the new automake 1.11 silent
build for D-Bus.
The patch should be beneficial even if CK support is enabled, since I
removed a stupid (and redundant) race in the desktop file reader.
Please review, and commit!
Thanks,
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
2009/8/7 Lennart Poettering < mzqohf@...>:
> On Thu, 06.08.09 23:22, Lennart Poettering ( mzqohf@...) wrote:
>
>> I have now decided to add native consolekit support to D-Bus and keep
>> at_console around for a while given that at least on Fedora a
>> non-trivial number of D-Bus policy files still use it.
>>
>> Right now D-Bus already supports pam_console style /var/run/console
>> support as well as Solaris style /dev/console support. I have now
>> added a third kind of checking: using the CK database.
>>
>> That patch is mostly ready, I'll probably post it later today.
>
> OK, this patch set is now ready. Was a bit more work then I estimated,
> a series of 8 patches.
>
> Here's the repo:
>
> http://git.0pointer.de/?p=dbus.git> git://git.0pointer.de/dbus.git
>
> This also includes a patch that enables the new automake 1.11 silent
> build for D-Bus.
Please use
m4_ifdef([AM_SILENT_RULES], [AM_SILENT_RULES([yes])])
instead and don't enforce a newer version an silent-rules in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
automake 1.11 is not so widespread yet to enforce it on everyone
building from git.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Fri, 07.08.09 01:51, Michael Biebl ( mbiebl@...) wrote:
>
> 2009/8/7 Lennart Poettering < mzqohf@...>:
> > On Thu, 06.08.09 23:22, Lennart Poettering ( mzqohf@...) wrote:
> >
> >> I have now decided to add native consolekit support to D-Bus and keep
> >> at_console around for a while given that at least on Fedora a
> >> non-trivial number of D-Bus policy files still use it.
> >>
> >> Right now D-Bus already supports pam_console style /var/run/console
> >> support as well as Solaris style /dev/console support. I have now
> >> added a third kind of checking: using the CK database.
> >>
> >> That patch is mostly ready, I'll probably post it later today.
> >
> > OK, this patch set is now ready. Was a bit more work then I estimated,
> > a series of 8 patches.
> >
> > Here's the repo:
> >
> > http://git.0pointer.de/?p=dbus.git> > git://git.0pointer.de/dbus.git
> >
> > This also includes a patch that enables the new automake 1.11 silent
> > build for D-Bus.
>
> Please use
> m4_ifdef([AM_SILENT_RULES], [AM_SILENT_RULES([yes])])
> instead and don't enforce a newer version an silent-rules in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
>
> automake 1.11 is not so widespread yet to enforce it on everyone
> building from git.
How does that matter? Automake is only required for folks who build
from git, i.e. developers. And those should not have a problem with
keeping there system up-to-date.
I do see value that the tarball stays compilable on older
distributions, since it is used by admins and other non-developer
folks. But the git tree? If someone uses that he should be expected to
keep his things up-to-date.
1.11 is two months old already now.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Fri, 07.08.09 01:42, Lennart Poettering ( mzqohf@...) wrote:
>
> On Thu, 06.08.09 23:22, Lennart Poettering ( mzqohf@...) wrote:
>
> > I have now decided to add native consolekit support to D-Bus and keep
> > at_console around for a while given that at least on Fedora a
> > non-trivial number of D-Bus policy files still use it.
> >
> > Right now D-Bus already supports pam_console style /var/run/console
> > support as well as Solaris style /dev/console support. I have now
> > added a third kind of checking: using the CK database.
> >
> > That patch is mostly ready, I'll probably post it later today.
>
> OK, this patch set is now ready. Was a bit more work then I estimated,
> a series of 8 patches.
>
> Here's the repo:
>
> http://git.0pointer.de/?p=dbus.git> git://git.0pointer.de/dbus.git
>
> This also includes a patch that enables the new automake 1.11 silent
> build for D-Bus.
>
> The patch should be beneficial even if CK support is enabled, since I
that should read "disabled" of course.
> removed a stupid (and redundant) race in the desktop file reader.
>
> Please review, and commit!
I have now added one final patch which prints a warning for each
at_console usage it finds in the configuration files.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
2009/8/7 Lennart Poettering < mzqohf@...>:
> On Fri, 07.08.09 01:51, Michael Biebl ( mbiebl@...) wrote:
>
>>
>> 2009/8/7 Lennart Poettering < mzqohf@...>:
>> > On Thu, 06.08.09 23:22, Lennart Poettering ( mzqohf@...) wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have now decided to add native consolekit support to D-Bus and keep
>> >> at_console around for a while given that at least on Fedora a
>> >> non-trivial number of D-Bus policy files still use it.
>> >>
>> >> Right now D-Bus already supports pam_console style /var/run/console
>> >> support as well as Solaris style /dev/console support. I have now
>> >> added a third kind of checking: using the CK database.
>> >>
>> >> That patch is mostly ready, I'll probably post it later today.
>> >
>> > OK, this patch set is now ready. Was a bit more work then I estimated,
>> > a series of 8 patches.
>> >
>> > Here's the repo:
>> >
>> > http://git.0pointer.de/?p=dbus.git>> > git://git.0pointer.de/dbus.git
>> >
>> > This also includes a patch that enables the new automake 1.11 silent
>> > build for D-Bus.
>>
>> Please use
>> m4_ifdef([AM_SILENT_RULES], [AM_SILENT_RULES([yes])])
>> instead and don't enforce a newer version an silent-rules in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE
>>
>> automake 1.11 is not so widespread yet to enforce it on everyone
>> building from git.
>
> How does that matter? Automake is only required for folks who build
> from git, i.e. developers. And those should not have a problem with
> keeping there system up-to-date.
>
> I do see value that the tarball stays compilable on older
> distributions, since it is used by admins and other non-developer
> folks. But the git tree? If someone uses that he should be expected to
> keep his things up-to-date.
>
> 1.11 is two months old already now.
silent-rules is not a crucial feature, so it doesn't really cost you
anything to keep the support optional.
I'm not sure if every developer (or tester ftm) is running the latest
bleeding edge distro.
I personally won't install automake-1.11 from sources just to
(test-)compile dbus.
It also makes it easier for distros, in case they need to patch the
build system and rerun the autotools.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Thu, 06.08.09 14:56, Thiago Macieira ( thiago@...) wrote:
> Em Quinta-feira 06 Agosto 2009, às 08:37:50, Marcel Holtmann escreveu:
> > Together with the at_console stuff mentioned by Lennart this could
> > become 1.3.2 and then we should be focusing on stabilizing it for the
> > final 1.4 release.
>
> I'm a bit more skeptical about the at_console stuff. Some more input from the
> distros on whether they use it or not would be nice.
No need to be sceptical anymore. The patches I prepped don't break
at_console.
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
On Fri, 07.08.09 02:11, Michael Biebl ( mbiebl@...) wrote:
> > How does that matter? Automake is only required for folks who build
> > from git, i.e. developers. And those should not have a problem with
> > keeping there system up-to-date.
> >
> > I do see value that the tarball stays compilable on older
> > distributions, since it is used by admins and other non-developer
> > folks. But the git tree? If someone uses that he should be expected to
> > keep his things up-to-date.
> >
> > 1.11 is two months old already now.
>
> silent-rules is not a crucial feature, so it doesn't really cost you
> anything to keep the support optional.
> I'm not sure if every developer (or tester ftm) is running the latest
> bleeding edge distro.
> I personally won't install automake-1.11 from sources just to
> (test-)compile dbus.
>
> It also makes it easier for distros, in case they need to patch the
> build system and rerun the autotools.
I don't really buy this. Somehow I get the idea that all this is about
is that Debian is glacial in updating automake, right?
But anyway, since today's your birthday I have now reworked that patch
to make you happy.
Lennart
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Re: D-Bus 1.3.0 released
2009/8/7 Lennart Poettering < mzqohf@...>:
> On Fri, 07.08.09 02:11, Michael Biebl ( mbiebl@...) wrote:
>
>> > How does that matter? Automake is only required for folks who build
>> > from git, i.e. developers. And those should not have a problem with
>> > keeping there system up-to-date.
>> >
>> > I do see value that the tarball stays compilable on older
>> > distributions, since it is used by admins and other non-developer
>> > folks. But the git tree? If someone uses that he should be expected to
>> > keep his things up-to-date.
>> >
>> > 1.11 is two months old already now.
>>
>> silent-rules is not a crucial feature, so it doesn't really cost you
>> anything to keep the support optional.
>> I'm not sure if every developer (or tester ftm) is running the latest
>> bleeding edge distro.
>> I personally won't install automake-1.11 from sources just to
>> (test-)compile dbus.
>>
>> It also makes it easier for distros, in case they need to patch the
>> build system and rerun the autotools.
>
> I don't really buy this. Somehow I get the idea that all this is about
> is that Debian is glacial in updating automake, right?
You were asking for feedback and imho it makes sense to be
conservative in such matters.
>
> But anyway, since today's your birthday I have now reworked that patch
> to make you happy.
No birthday but thanks anyway ;-)
Michael
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