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DHT11 Sensor

by MickSulley :: Rate this Message:

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Does anyone have any experience of the DHT11 temp/humidity sensor?  I
just found it while looking for something else, it sounds very cheap for
a combined temp and humidity sensor, £2.75 on eBay, but I am not
convinced that it is compatible with 1-wire and owfs as I don't see any
address in the description.

There is a description here
http://www.ladyada.net/learn/sensors/dht.html but my limited technical
knowledge can't determine if it would work or what else would need to be
done to get it to work.

Thanks
Mick



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Re: DHT11 Sensor

by Eloy Paris :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Mick,

On 02/03/2012 04:23 PM, Mick Sulley wrote:

> Does anyone have any experience of the DHT11 temp/humidity sensor?  I
> just found it while looking for something else, it sounds very cheap for
> a combined temp and humidity sensor, £2.75 on eBay, but I am not
> convinced that it is compatible with 1-wire and owfs as I don't see any
> address in the description.
>
> There is a description here
> http://www.ladyada.net/learn/sensors/dht.html but my limited technical
> knowledge can't determine if it would work or what else would need to be
> done to get it to work.

I have experience with the DHT11's older brother, the RHT03. Both work
very similarly and as far as I know the only difference is price (one
has better accuracy and temperature and humidity range than the other).

Without a doubt, these guys do not speak Maxim/Dallas 1-Wire protocol;
it's its own thing.

I am working on a microcontroller-based 1-Wire slave that uses an RHT03
as the humidity/temperature sensor and it works great. I have not
deployed one of these yet so I am not sure how well the RHT03 will work
in a production environment (like in my garage, basement, or outside)
but at least in inside tests it is looking pretty good.

I'd say these cheap sensors are a great option, but you definitely need
to hook them up to a microcontroller (it's not hard at all but it is not
typical PC development).

Cheers,

Eloy Paris.-

P.S. There are Arduino libraries to talk to these sensors so using an
Arduino is an option if hardware development is not desired. The problem
would be getting the Arduino to behave like a Dallas 1-Wire slave,
though there is at least one GPL implementation out there that someone
could use as a starting point.

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Re: DHT11 Sensor

by MickSulley :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks for that Eloy, I suspected that would be the case.  I would be
interested to hear your experiences with it when it goes into your
'production' environment.  I am planning to measure and control humidity
in our pool area, but have several things above that on the priority
list, so it won't be for a while yet.

Cheers
Mick

On 03/02/12 21:34, Eloy Paris wrote:

> Hi Mick,
>
> On 02/03/2012 04:23 PM, Mick Sulley wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any experience of the DHT11 temp/humidity sensor?  I
>> just found it while looking for something else, it sounds very cheap for
>> a combined temp and humidity sensor, £2.75 on eBay, but I am not
>> convinced that it is compatible with 1-wire and owfs as I don't see any
>> address in the description.
>>
>> There is a description here
>> http://www.ladyada.net/learn/sensors/dht.html but my limited technical
>> knowledge can't determine if it would work or what else would need to be
>> done to get it to work.
> I have experience with the DHT11's older brother, the RHT03. Both work
> very similarly and as far as I know the only difference is price (one
> has better accuracy and temperature and humidity range than the other).
>
> Without a doubt, these guys do not speak Maxim/Dallas 1-Wire protocol;
> it's its own thing.
>
> I am working on a microcontroller-based 1-Wire slave that uses an RHT03
> as the humidity/temperature sensor and it works great. I have not
> deployed one of these yet so I am not sure how well the RHT03 will work
> in a production environment (like in my garage, basement, or outside)
> but at least in inside tests it is looking pretty good.
>
> I'd say these cheap sensors are a great option, but you definitely need
> to hook them up to a microcontroller (it's not hard at all but it is not
> typical PC development).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eloy Paris.-
>
> P.S. There are Arduino libraries to talk to these sensors so using an
> Arduino is an option if hardware development is not desired. The problem
> would be getting the Arduino to behave like a Dallas 1-Wire slave,
> though there is at least one GPL implementation out there that someone
> could use as a starting point.
>
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Re: DHT11 Sensor

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Dnia 03-02-2012 o 22:47:26 Mick Sulley <mick@...> napisał(a):

I was also thinking about this sensor it has a digital output which can be  
connected to uC. There is also DHT22 which has greater range. From what I  
read these are based on a capacitor which capacitance is based on  
humidity. I wonder how long do they live. I've read that some types of  
sensor wear out after about 5 years.


> Thanks for that Eloy, I suspected that would be the case.  I would be
> interested to hear your experiences with it when it goes into your
> 'production' environment.

I'm also looking forward to see it.


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Re: DHT11 Sensor

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hih4000 are very good, from honneywell a ptfe (teflon - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene) filter help it from liquid water, they (filters) are selled with diameters of 1cm, 2cm, 4cm here in brazil, with pore size of .15um filter size to .45um (both works but .15 is slower, like a low pass filter)

2012/2/3 p4trykx <p4trykx@...>
Dnia 03-02-2012 o 22:47:26 Mick Sulley <mick@...> napisał(a):

I was also thinking about this sensor it has a digital output which can be
connected to uC. There is also DHT22 which has greater range. From what I
read these are based on a capacitor which capacitance is based on
humidity. I wonder how long do they live. I've read that some types of
sensor wear out after about 5 years.


> Thanks for that Eloy, I suspected that would be the case.  I would be
> interested to hear your experiences with it when it goes into your
> 'production' environment.

I'm also looking forward to see it.


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Re: DHT11 Sensor

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Hi p4trykx,

On 02/03/2012 05:16 PM, p4trykx wrote:

> Dnia 03-02-2012 o 22:47:26 Mick Sulley<mick@...>  napisał(a):
>
> I was also thinking about this sensor it has a digital output which can be
> connected to uC. There is also DHT22 which has greater range.

As I understand it, the DHT22 is the same thing as the RHT03 (see
comment #2 from Thomas Liu at http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10167).
The DHT11 that Mick found cheap on eBay is the little brother.

> From what I read these are based on a capacitor which capacitance is
> based on humidity. I wonder how long do they live. I've read that
> some types of sensor wear out after about 5 years.

No idea about how long these are supposed to leave. Guess only time will
tell.

>> Thanks for that Eloy, I suspected that would be the case.  I would be
>> interested to hear your experiences with it when it goes into your
>> 'production' environment.
>
> I'm also looking forward to see it.

Sure thing; I hope to be able to share my experiences soon.

Cheers,

Eloy Paris.-

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Re: DHT11 Sensor

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On 02/03/2012 02:16 PM, p4trykx wrote:

> Dnia 03-02-2012 o 22:47:26 Mick Sulley<mick@...>  napisał(a):
>
> I was also thinking about this sensor it has a digital output which can be
> connected to uC. There is also DHT22 which has greater range. From what I
> read these are based on a capacitor which capacitance is based on
> humidity. I wonder how long do they live. I've read that some types of
> sensor wear out after about 5 years.
>
>
>> Thanks for that Eloy, I suspected that would be the case.  I would be
>> interested to hear your experiences with it when it goes into your
>> 'production' environment.
> I'm also looking forward to see it.
>
>
These devices are usually fairly rugged. The capacitive humidity sensors
are used in automotive settings and can take quite a bit of abuse. One
manufacturer was telling me that the required tests including repeated
cycles of freezing the part and then immediately dipping in in very hot
oil. ouch!

Generally anything with significant failure rates in less than 5 years
are not acceptable in automotive environments. Most things other than
replaceable parts require a 10+ year average expected life in that
market. I have two 15+ year old cars, so I am beginning to worry.

(in case you had any doubt, I am a sensor geek.)

jerry


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