Nabble - Debian KDE

Re: KDE + Compiz question

2009-11-28T12:41:55Z

Alle Saturday 28 November 2009, B. Alexander ha scritto:

> I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this question, but here
> goes...
>
> I just built a brand new sid box at my new job. On that box, I am
> running KDE 4.3.2 and using Compiz as a window manager. I know KDE4
> has its own compositing engine, but to be honest, last time I tried
> the internal compositing, it took far more CPU power to run than
> Compiz did, plus there are a couple of features I need that were not
> included KDE's compositing last time I tried it.
>
> My machine at work is a similar configuration to what I have on my
> home box, except on my home box, which was built many moons ago, the
> compiz-fusion or beryl in the Debian repos was 0.5.x when the latest
> was 0.7.x, so I used the script that builds the latest and greatest
> from the git repository.
>
> On the work box, I used the standard Debian repos...However, emerald
> is nowhere to be found, so I am unable to change the window borders
> to anything but the rather bland default that I got when I turned on
> window decorations in ccsm.
>
> Anyone running compiz with kde4? How do I change the window borders
> under KDE if Emerald is no longer a part of Compiz? Apologies if
> this was the wrong place to ask...
>
> Thanks,
> --b
>

Posting many times the same message is not going to help you, on the
opposite you risk to be boring.
Compiz is not part of KDE and emerald, AFAIK, is not even part of Debian
at all and this is why you can't find its package. The only help you can
get here is how to have compiz instead of Kwin. In systemsettings ->
Default Applications -> Window Manager -> Use a different window manager
-> choose whatever WM you want.
The other stuff you are looking for is not KDE related and as such, it's
completely off-topic in this mailing list and you won't probably get any
help here.
Bye

Valerio

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KDE + Compiz question

2009-11-28T12:00:39Z

I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this question, but here goes...

I just built a brand new sid box at my new job. On that box, I am running KDE 4.3.2 and using Compiz as a window manager. I know KDE4 has its own compositing engine, but to be honest, last time I tried the internal compositing, it took far more CPU power to run than Compiz did, plus there are a couple of features I need that were not included KDE's compositing last time I tried it.

My machine at work is a similar configuration to what I have on my home box, except on my home box, which was built many moons ago, the compiz-fusion or beryl in the Debian repos was 0.5.x when the latest was 0.7.x, so I used the script that builds the latest and greatest from the git repository.

On the work box, I used the standard Debian repos...However, emerald is nowhere to be found, so I am unable to change the window borders to anything but the rather bland default that I got when I turned on window decorations in ccsm.

Anyone running compiz with kde4? How do I change the window borders under KDE if Emerald is no longer a part of Compiz? Apologies if this was the wrong place to ask...

Thanks,
--b

KDE-Edu survey

2009-11-28T09:11:27Z

Heya :)

the KDE-Edu team is doing a survey to find out how to improve their
applications and where to best invest their limited time.
It would be great if you could help out if you are using any of the
KDE-Edu programs (Kanagram, KHangMan, Kiten, KLettres, KWordQuiz,
Parley, KAlgebra, KBruch, Kig, KmPlot, Blinken, KGeography, KTouch,
KTurtle, Kalzium, KStars, Marble, Step, Cantor, Rocs).
http://blog.lydiapintscher.de/2009/11/21/kde-education-survey has some
more information and links to the survey.

Cheers and thanks for your help
Lydia

PS: Please CC me in replies as I am not subscribed.

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Re: 3 button mouse emulation unreliable in Lenny

2009-11-27T08:37:01Z

Hi!
I do have a 3 button mouse and some times the middle button doesn't work until I reboot the computer, so maybe the problem is not with the emulation itself rather than the middle button behavior.

Cheers,
Edu

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Curt Howland <Howland@...> wrote:

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On Friday 27 November 2009, Chris Austin was heard to say:

> I have been using KDE in Debian 5 Lenny since its release around
> Easter this year. Mostly it is brilliant, my thanks to all the
> developers. But there has been a persistent problem of
> unreliability of the 3 button mouse emulation, that was not present
> in my old Woody system.

This happened to me yesterday. I "lived with it" for the day,
shutdown, and this morning it's working fine.

Keyrepeat sometimes doesn't work, but toggling it in Kcontrol turns it
back on.

Maybe we're reaching some kind of complexity crisis?

No thread hijack intended,

Curt-

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Re: 3 button mouse emulation unreliable in Lenny

2009-11-27T07:10:38Z

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On Friday 27 November 2009, Chris Austin was heard to say:
> I have been using KDE in Debian 5 Lenny since its release around
> Easter this year. Mostly it is brilliant, my thanks to all the
> developers. But there has been a persistent problem of
> unreliability of the 3 button mouse emulation, that was not present
> in my old Woody system.

This happened to me yesterday. I "lived with it" for the day,
shutdown, and this morning it's working fine.

Keyrepeat sometimes doesn't work, but toggling it in Kcontrol turns it
back on.

Maybe we're reaching some kind of complexity crisis?

No thread hijack intended,

Curt-

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3 button mouse emulation unreliable in Lenny

2009-11-27T03:32:29Z

I have been using KDE in Debian 5 Lenny since its release around Easter this year. Mostly it is brilliant, my thanks to all the developers. But there has been a persistent problem of unreliability of the 3 button mouse emulation, that was not present in my old Woody system. This shows up worst in KEdit and Konsole, when trying to paste in by simultaneously clicking both mouse buttons. Often, and unpredictably, an unwanted right-click menu appears, instead of the wanted paste. And even worse, one of the menu items is often unintentionally activated, with nuisance effects.

To try to work around this problem, I decided to increase the time threshold for the simultaneous 2 button click. Looking on x.org for guidance on how to do this, I found that it can be done by adding a single line to /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Specifically, as set up automatically, there is a section in this file that reads:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
EndSection

I have now altered this section by adding an extra line, so that it now reads:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "10000"
EndSection

The 10000 is the threshold for the simultaneous 2 button click, in milliseconds, so that the threshold is now 10 seconds. The default was 50 milliseconds. I experimented with various increased thresholds, and found that it is least stressful with this large threshold. What happens now is that if I click the right mouse button and release it, the right-click menu instantly appears. But if I press the right mouse button and hold it, the right-click menu does not appear until a ten second delay has passed. However, perhaps due to a slight electrical glitch or failure of de-bouncing, the right-click menu _sometimes_ still appears unwanted immediately, when I press and hold the right mouse button, just as if I had released it. But because I am no longer under any pressure to press the left mouse button immediately, I can now wait to see that this does not happen, before clicking the left mouse button. Then the wanted paste appears when I release the right mouse button. So the whole process is more relaxed and calm, and less stressful.

It seems that the right-click menu now activates an item if you accidentally release the right mouse button while the pointer is over that menu item, even if you never touch the left mouse button, and this can still lead to nuisance unwanted activation of menu items, if one is not careful. There is also a tendency to release the right mouse button accidentally while clicking the left mouse button, if one is not careful. But at least one can be more relaxed and calm about it, now that one is not trying to click both mouse buttons exactly simultaneously.

You have to reboot the computer for the new option to take effect.

Incidentally, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf set up by Debian does not show the available options. However I found a listing of a similar file that did show the available options, commented out, by searching for change Emulate3Timeout on http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/. I learned that Emulate3Timeout was the relevant option, by looking at the log file at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.

Best regards,
Chris Austin

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KDE + Compiz question

2009-11-25T17:52:01Z

I'm not sure this is the right place to ask this question, but here goes...

I just built a brand new sid box at my new job. On that box, I am running KDE 4.3.2 and using Compiz as a window manager. I know KDE4 has its own compositing engine, but to be honest, last time I tried the internal compositing, it took far more CPU power to run than Compiz did, plus there are a couple of features I need that were not in KDE's compositing.

My machine at work is a similar configuration to what I have on my home box, except on my home box, which was built many moons ago, and because the compiz-fusion or beryl in the repos was 0.5.x when the latest was 0.7.x, I used the script that builds the latest and greatest from the git repository.

On the work box, I used the standard Debian repos...However, emerald is nowhere to be found, so I am unable to change the window borders to anything but the rather bland default that I got when I turned on window decorations in ccsm.

Anyone running compiz with kde4? Apologies if this was the wrong place to ask...

Thanks,
--b

Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T13:38:17Z

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jedd wrote:
> Without disk activity it becomes a more curious problem. What
> video drivers are you using?

Intel (xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.0-1, upgraded to that long ago).

> Out of curiosity - and the lack of disk activity suggests this isn't
> a problem - but what's your memory usage look like when this
> happens? 'top , O , o' -- is handy during these moments.

Nothing at all with knode at least.

Cheers,

Marcus
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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T12:14:56Z

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David Baron wrote:
> There were certain plasmoids causing the Xorg problem.

I have a number of plasmoids that I didn't change for a long time, but the
X.org problem really occurs exactly when Amarok is playing music.

> If Amarok is doing it, kill pulseaudio and see if that helps.

I don't have pulseaudio. I have the Xine backend for Phonon.

Cheers,

Marcus
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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T07:36:56Z

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 14:32:47 David Baron wrote:
> There were certain plasmoids causing the Xorg problem. This has been fixed.
> If Amarok is doing it, kill pulseaudio and see if that helps. The first time I
> noticed runaway Xorg/Plasma-desktop CPU usage was playing with pulseaudio. The
> actual culprits were some hal and dbus stuff but if I killed that, KDE would
> not restart.

Good call. Here I'm running two cartoons, colour picker, weather
and remember-the-milk (compiled from HEAD). They are on all
6 desktops (ie. not set different for each desktop).

I'm seeing general weirdness, of course, and I don't mean to hijack
your thread here - but having just trawled through my .xsession-errors
to look for problems, and discovering Very Many, I'm starting to
think there's a lot of contributing factors to the instability and
strangeness. xorg updates are coming through less often, but
they aren't always entirely stable, and they seem to affect
some applications more than others, which is just bizarre.

About an hour ago I came back to my machine to find that in the
previous hour it had spontaneously restarted KDM - it does this
once every few days (even after an uptime of only an hour or so).

I've attached the last bit of my .xsession-errors here. It looks
like chrome is part of the problem, but firefox / iceweasel may
be a bigger culprit here. I love the understated nature of the
error message 'trouble ahead'. Memory errors seem inappropriate
given 2 / 2.5 GB ram / swap and only 200mb of swap in use.

J.

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kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
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kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
<unknown program name>(4848)/ main: 2 - parseCommandLine
<unknown program name>(4848)/ main: 3 - create KApplication

(<unknown>:4848): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
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(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
QPainter::begin: Widget painting can only begin as a result of a paintEvent
QPainter::translate: Painter not active
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QPainter::hasClipping: Painter not active
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QPainter::setBrush: Painter not active
QPainter::drawRects: Painter not active

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[1125/121747:ERROR:/usr/local/google/home/chrome-eng/b/slave/chrome-official-linux/build/src/base/process_util_linux.cc(502)] Not implemented reached in void base::EnableTerminationOnOutOfMemory()
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
<unknown program name>(4943)/ main: 2 - parseCommandLine
<unknown program name>(4943)/ main: 3 - create KApplication

(<unknown>:4943): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
Warning: Calling appendChild() on a null node does nothing.
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so

(<unknown>:4943): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
QPainter::begin: Widget painting can only begin as a result of a paintEvent
QPainter::translate: Painter not active
QPainter::setClipRect: Painter not active

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
QPainter::begin: Widget painting can only begin as a result of a paintEvent
QPainter::translate: Painter not active
QPainter::setClipRect: Painter not active

(<unknown>:4943): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_get_origin: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
Resource id: 0x3612221

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
findServiceByDesktopPath: /home/jedd/.kde/share/apps/RecentDocuments/.desktop not found
Object::connect: No such signal SystemTray::Manager::jobStateChanged(SystemTray::Job*)
Object::connect: No such slot JobWidget::updateJobState()
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/ark
QThreadStorage: Thread 0x95c0910 exited after QThreadStorage 2147483635 destroyed
Enchant dict for "en_AU" 0xa3e81a0
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/bin/kwalletmanager
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_file.so
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
Major opcode: 20 (X_GetProperty)
Resource id: 0x5e00019

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

(firefox-bin:4606): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
QColor::setNamedColor: Unknown color name '4294967295'
QTextHtmlParser::applyAttributes: Unknown color name '4294967295'
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display ":0.0".
X Error: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) 10
Major opcode: 2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes)
Resource id: 0x5e0001f
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kscreenlocker(5334) LockProcess::stayOnTop: Window above screensaver, raising, erasing
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kscreenlocker(5334) LockProcess::stayOnTop: Window above screensaver, raising, erasing
QColor::setNamedColor: Unknown color name '4294967295'
QTextHtmlParser::applyAttributes: Unknown color name '4294967295'
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_http.so
Xlib: extension "XFree86-Misc" missing on display ":0.0".
X Error: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied) 10
Major opcode: 2 (X_ChangeWindowAttributes)
Resource id: 0x5e0001f
kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/kio_pop3.so
kscreenlocker(5630) LockProcess::stayOnTop: Window above screensaver, raising, erasing
konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed
kglobalaccel: Fatal IO error: client killed
kwin: Fatal IO error: client killed
plasma-desktop: Fatal IO error: client killed
konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed
konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed
konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed
Qt-subapplication: Fatal IO error: client killed
kontact: Fatal IO error: client killed
konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed
klipper: Fatal IO error: client killed
keuphoria.kss: Fatal IO error: client killed
kscreenlocker: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kxkb: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children.
nepomukserver: Fatal IO error: client killed
klauncher: Exiting on signal 1
kdeinit4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGHUP to children.
kaccess: Fatal IO error: client killed
kdeinit4: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit4: Exit.
knotify4: Fatal IO error: client killed
krunner: Fatal IO error: client killed
kwalletd: Fatal IO error: client killed
Qt-subapplication: Fatal IO error: client killed
konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed
konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed
kwalletmanager: Fatal IO error: client killed
nspluginviewer: Fatal IO error: client killed
nspluginviewer: Fatal IO error: client killed
nspluginviewer: Fatal IO error: client killed
firefox-bin: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
kded4: Fatal IO error: client killed
kmix: Fatal IO error: client killed
korgac: Fatal IO error: client killed
polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
ksmserver: Fatal IO error: client killed
chrome: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
google-chrome: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
Warning: ktorrent: Fatal IO error: client killed
*** KMail got signal 15 (Exiting)
*** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing)
KCrash: Application 'kontact' crashing...
Warning: connect() failed: : No such file or directory
KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
drkonqi: cannot connect to X server :0.0
QProcess: Destroyed while process is still running.
kdeinit4: sending SIGTERM to children.
kdeinit4: Exit.

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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T07:09:09Z

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 14:21:54 Marcus Better wrote:
> jedd wrote:
> > I'm seeing xorg take up an entire core, even when amarok is
> > not playing anything.
>
> Can you determine if it is related to Amarok at all?

I shall, but just realised that on this machine (2GB quad-core)
it's possibly less useful here, as I'm using 1.4.10 (the kde 3.5.10
version) of Amarok. It's the only legacy KDE app I'm running,
with everything else being current Debian unstable. (I just found
the KDE4 version of amarok to be too painful, and I have enough
KDE4-induced pain at the moment.)

Without disk activity it becomes a more curious problem. What
video drivers are you using? I'm seeing some weirdness with some
apps - previously reported on this list, and attributed by others to
my video drivers - that very much appear to be application-specific.

What does KDE4's amarok and knode use as their datastore? I seem
to recall that amarok at least reverted to sqlite, even if you'd set
it up to use MySQL in the 3.x version. Not that I can see a way
that xorg could appear to own those types of processes.

Out of curiosity - and the lack of disk activity suggests this isn't
a problem - but what's your memory usage look like when this
happens? 'top , O , o' -- is handy during these moments.

Jedd.

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Re: help

2009-11-25T06:53:57Z

Alle mercoledì 25 novembre 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto:
> Sorry for my previous message. My intention was to reply the author
> privately, but I clicked the normal reply button.
>

No problem, now we know (at least those who speak a Romance language)
that you have kindly explained to didier what to do/do not in a mailing
list, so that no further replies are needed.
Ciao

Valerio

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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T06:32:47Z

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 16:10:53 jedd wrote:

> Hi Marcus,
>
> On Wednesday 25 November 2009 09:00:14 Marcus Better wrote:
> > for the past few days I'm experiencing weird CPU thrashing problems
> > in two KDE apps: Amarok and Knode. Thought I would check if
> > someone else is seeing this.
>
> I don't run knode, but I do have amarok running most of the time.
>
> I'm seeing xorg take up an entire core, even when amarok is
> not playing anything. This seems to be semi-random - at first
> it appeared to happen after several hours, but I've seen it on
> a re-start of kdm a few times now.
>
> Are you seeing lots of file system activity while amarok or
> knode is slowing you down? lsof might reveal some extra info,
> if you are.
>
> Jedd.
>

There were certain plasmoids causing the Xorg problem. This has been fixed.
If Amarok is doing it, kill pulseaudio and see if that helps. The first time I
noticed runaway Xorg/Plasma-desktop CPU usage was playing with pulseaudio. The
actual culprits were some hal and dbus stuff but if I killed that, KDE would
not restart.

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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T06:23:44Z

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Kevin Krammer wrote:
> Could you check whether this might be related to the widget style or icon
> theme in use?

I use the default theme, so not sure how to test that.

Switching desktop effects on or off does not make any difference.

Cheers,

Marcus
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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T06:21:54Z

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jedd wrote:
> I don't run knode, but I do have amarok running most of the time.
>
> I'm seeing xorg take up an entire core, even when amarok is
> not playing anything.

Can you determine if it is related to Amarok at all?

> Are you seeing lots of file system activity while amarok or
> knode is slowing you down?

None at all.

Cheers,

Marcus
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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T06:10:53Z

Hi Marcus,

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 09:00:14 Marcus Better wrote:
> for the past few days I'm experiencing weird CPU thrashing problems
> in two KDE apps: Amarok and Knode. Thought I would check if
> someone else is seeing this.

I don't run knode, but I do have amarok running most of the time.

I'm seeing xorg take up an entire core, even when amarok is
not playing anything. This seems to be semi-random - at first
it appeared to happen after several hours, but I've seen it on
a re-start of kdm a few times now.

Are you seeing lots of file system activity while amarok or
knode is slowing you down? lsof might reveal some extra info,
if you are.

Jedd.

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Re: help

2009-11-25T06:06:45Z

Sorry for my previous message. My intention was to reply the author privately, but I clicked the normal reply button.

El Miércoles, 25 de Noviembre de 2009 08:08:03 didier escribió:

>
> Tengo un servidor montado en debian, necesito saber como compartir una
> carpeta que esta en este mismo servidor que solo puedan los usuarios
> leer
>
>
>
> *******************************************************
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> Tel: 2663843
> Admin de Red
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>
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Re: help

2009-11-25T06:00:44Z

Hola, Didier.
He leído tu mensaje a la lista de correo debian-kde y creo que hay varias cosas que supongo que ignoras de la lista:

1ª. Es una lista internacional, lo que a efectos prácticos equivale a decir norteamericana, especialmente en el ámbito informático -aunque la mayoría de sus lectores no lo sea-, ergo se escribe inglés, guste o no.
2ª. Tu pregunta no está relacionada con los paquetes creados por el equipo Debian-KDE ni con KDE en absoluto.
3ª En esta y en cualquier otra lista, así como en la vida real, hay unas normas de cortesía básicas, tales como saludar, despedirse, o agradecer de antemano cuando se está pidiendo a otra gente que se tome la molestia y el tiempo de ayudarte.

Total, que para futuras consultas escribe en inglés y pregunta algo relacionado con KDE sobre Debian, si no, no creo que obtengas respuesta alguna; un poco de cortesía tampoco hará daño.

Si quieres ayuda en castellano date una vuelta por aquí:
http://www.esdebian.org
http://www.kdehispano.es

Saludos.

El Miércoles, 25 de Noviembre de 2009 08:08:03 didier escribió:

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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T04:08:07Z

On Wednesday, 2009-11-25, Marcus Better wrote:
> Marcus Better wrote:
> > Knode just started being very slow, taking several seconds to react to
> > commands, while its CPU usage goes up.
>
> Filed a bug upstream, with oprofile output:
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216073

Could you check whether this might be related to the widget style or icon
theme in use?

Cheers,
Kevin

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Re: high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T02:12:58Z

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Marcus Better wrote:
> Knode just started being very slow, taking several seconds to react to
> commands, while its CPU usage goes up.

Filed a bug upstream, with oprofile output:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216073

Cheers,

Marcus
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high CPU usage in certain apps

2009-11-25T01:00:14Z

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Hi,

for the past few days I'm experiencing weird CPU thrashing problems in two
KDE apps: Amarok and Knode. Thought I would check if someone else is seeing
this.

When playing MP3 files in Amarok, the X.org process hogs the CPU. It goes
back to normal immediately if I stop the music. Details are in bug #557762.

Knode just started being very slow, taking several seconds to react to
commands, while its CPU usage goes up. For example when selecting a
newsgroup with a mouse click in the list, it takes seconds before even the
selection changes (which usually happens immediately, before it startws
loading new messages).

I don't know if these two are related but they both started happening in the
last few days. I did upgrade Amarok recently but not KDE or Qt. I use amarok
2.2.1-2, KDE 4.3.2 and th Qt 4.6 from experimental. System is a Thinkpad
T61, Intel graphics, Debian amd64, mainline kernel 2.6.31.6.

Cheers,

Marcus
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help

2009-11-24T23:08:03Z

Tengo un servidor montado en debian, necesito saber como compartir una carpeta que esta en este mismo servidor que solo puedan los usuarios leer

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Re: Upload of KDE 4.3.3?

2009-11-24T14:19:06Z

Sveiki,

On antradienis 24 Lapkritis 2009 21:57:34 Willi Mann wrote:
> Hi!
>
> When will KDE 4.3.3 get uploaded? I just ask because I'm facing some
> annoying crash bugs in plasma-desktop that occur very frequently, and I'd
> like to test whether they are gone or at least occur less frequently.

KDE 4.3.2 is still not fully in testing (being held up by **** gnome). KDE
4.3.4 will be released in a week so I guess KDE 4.3.3 in debian will not
happen.

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Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE

2009-11-23T13:48:37Z

I'd suggest to close Iceweasel by pressing Ctrl+Q, this workaround works for me.

Regards

Federcio

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Re: konqueror non trova java

2009-11-23T11:06:50Z

On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Modestas Vainius <modestas@...> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> On pirmadienis 23 Lapkritis 2009 20:17:31 roberto wrote:
>> hello
>> loading the page
>> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
>>
>> konqueror cannot open the applet; but sun-java6-bin and its
>> dependecies are correctly installed;
>>
>> i cannot figure out the problem
>> thank you in advance
>
> Try openjdk.

installed,
but which is the correct path to provide to konqueror in its
java&javascript tab ?
i found these:

/usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre
/usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre-lib
/usr/share/doc/openjdk-6-jre-headless
/usr/share/pixmaps/openjdk-6.xpm
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/openjdk-6-jre-headless
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/openjdk-6-jre-lib
/usr/share/lintian/overrides/openjdk-6-jre
/usr/share/applications/openjdk-6-java.desktop
/usr/share/applications/openjdk-6-javaws.desktop
/usr/share/applications/openjdk-6-policytool.desktop
/usr/share/menu/openjdk-6-jre
/usr/share/application-registry/openjdk-6-archive.applications
/usr/share/application-registry/openjdk-6-web-start.applications
/usr/share/mime-info/openjdk-6-web-start.mime
/usr/share/mime-info/openjdk-6-archive.keys
/usr/share/mime-info/openjdk-6-web-start.keys
/usr/share/mime-info/openjdk-6-archive.mime

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Re: konqueror non trova java

2009-11-23T10:21:26Z

Hello,

On pirmadienis 23 Lapkritis 2009 20:17:31 roberto wrote:
> hello
> loading the page
> http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1
>
> konqueror cannot open the applet; but sun-java6-bin and its
> dependecies are correctly installed;
>
> i cannot figure out the problem
> thank you in advance

Try openjdk.

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2009-11-23T10:17:31Z

hello
loading the page
http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1

konqueror cannot open the applet; but sun-java6-bin and its
dependecies are correctly installed;

i cannot figure out the problem
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Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE [OT]

2009-11-23T08:02:02Z

El Lunes, 23 de Noviembre de 2009 10:18:42 Valerio Passini escribió:

> Alle domenica 22 novembre 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto:
> > e, but I use dark backgrounds and light fonts (I cant stand much time
> > in front of my screen with all that white and light grey without
> > feeling visually fatigued, besides dark colors save some minutes
> > when using battery)
> >
>
> If you have an LCD screen (I'm just guessing since you told you are
> trying to spare your battery) and not a plasma screen, you are not going
> to save energy choosing a dark colors set because the screen has a back-
> light always on.
> Bye
>
> Valerio

The backlight consumes most of the energy, yes (a well regulated screen brightness -which reduces the backlight intensity- is the best practice); and energy savings with dark colors are especially noticed on CRT screens, where savings can even reach 20-some %, I don't remember exactly; but as far as I remember, when that "blackle" (Google with a totally black background and grey letters) and sites thing appeared, a couple of years ago, coments on some blogs (blogs that seemed reliable, I mean, of course, like Nature's one) said that despite the savings for LCDs were much smaller than those on CRTs still there were small savings, that's why I said dark colors save "some minutes" of my battery.
Anyway, I'm no expert at all; the main reason is just that I can't stand much time with a device throwing a lot of artificial light to my eyes. On this I think every occulist would agree, and if I can also save 3 or 4 minutes, welcome they are.

In few years LED screens will be the usual, and in them pixels are self-, not retro-, illuminated, so I still think it's a good habit for the near future.

Ciao.

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KGpg vs. Kleopatra

2009-11-23T05:26:28Z

I just today noticed Kleopatra when I archived and encrypted a folder
from Konqueror (as file manager). Formerly, that was a task for KGpg and
I wonder whether this older program has been superseded by Kleopatra.
Apparently not, as both are there in versions for KDE 4.3.

I didn't look too closely, but obviously there are large overlaps in
functionality. For my purpose at hand, KGpg was the better fit as it
supports symmetric encryption of files/folders. Still, I'm wondering
what the deal is with these two.

Michael

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Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE [OT]

2009-11-23T01:18:42Z

Alle domenica 22 novembre 2009, Manolete, ese artista... ha scritto:
> e, but I use dark backgrounds and light fonts (I cant stand much time
> in front of my screen with all that white and light grey without
> feeling visually fatigued, besides dark colors save some minutes
> when using battery)
>

If you have an LCD screen (I'm just guessing since you told you are
trying to spare your battery) and not a plasma screen, you are not going
to save energy choosing a dark colors set because the screen has a back-
light always on.
Bye

Valerio

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Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE

2009-11-22T09:40:26Z

El Domingo, 22 de Noviembre de 2009 17:05:39 Facundo A escribió:
> You can use the qtcurve theme, now it's very customizable. To use it in gtk
> apps I'm using gtk-qt-engine (with no problems) and setting the qtcurve style
> for gtk, but you can install the gnome-control-center.

Well, since Kfirefox (recommended by Valerio Passini) works great if you have the default Oxygen theme, but I use dark backgrounds and light fonts (I cant stand much time in front of my screen with all that white and light grey without feeling visually fatigued, besides dark colors save some minutes when using battery) I installed gtk2-engines-qtcurve, as "tv.debian" user pointed, which uses Qtcurve but not gtk-qt-engine, and now I have a rather nice and visually comfortable Iceweasel with no problems so far.
Thanks for your tip anyway.

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Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE

2009-11-22T08:05:39Z

On Domingo 22 Noviembre 2009 10:47:41 Manolete, ese artista... escribió:
> Ok. I had been told it could be some issue in Kwin not really terminating
> firefox-bin process when clicking on the close button, that's why I
> thought it was a window manager issue, but there ya'll are, guys, always a
> source of knowledge, ;) . Purged gtk-qt-engine and the problem gone. Now
> IW looks ugly like a tooth-ache, but I'll try Valerio's recommendation.

You can use the qtcurve theme, now it's very customizable. To use it in gtk
apps I'm using gtk-qt-engine (with no problems) and setting the qtcurve style
for gtk, but you can install the gnome-control-center.

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Re: No xorg dependency for kde-minimal?

2009-11-22T07:18:50Z

On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 02:00:13AM +0100, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:

> Hi, Sune:
>
> On Sunday 22 November 2009 01:19:39 Sune Vuorela wrote:
> > On 2009-11-21, Diederik de Haas <didi.debian@...> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm setting up a virtualbox image to do some testing and installed
> > > kde-minimal into it. After rebooting I didn't see KDE start up and
> > > executing 'startkde' produced the following msg: "$DISPLAY is not set or
> > > cannot connect to the X server."
> > > Searching with aptitude revealed that no single xorg package was
> > > installed.
> > >
> > > While I realise that this is kde-minimal, but isn't this a bit too
> > > minimal (=useless)? (I know how to fix it, so no need to explain that)
> >
> > You can run kde from a remote machine...
>
> But it usually (while not always) will be run locally. Therefore it should
> suggest an X environment (not a "hard" dependency but yes a "suggets").
>

There is a Recommends already:

ana@pryan:~$ apt-cache show kde-minimal

Priority: optional
Section: kde
Installed-Size: 36
Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers <debian-qt-kde@...>
Architecture: all
Source: meta-kde
Version: 5:55
Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.3.1), kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.3.1),
kdebase-apps (>= 4:4.3.1)
Recommends: kdm (>= 4:4.3.1), xserver-xorg <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<-------
Suggests: kde-l10n (>= 4:4.3.1)
...

Ana

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Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE

2009-11-22T06:15:48Z

Manolete, ese artista... wrote:
> Ok. I had been told it could be some issue in Kwin not really terminating
>firefox-bin process when clicking on the close button, that's why I thought
>it was a window manager issue, but there ya'll are, guys, always a source of
>knowledge, ;) . Purged gtk-qt-engine and the problem gone. Now IW looks ugly
>like a tooth-ache, but I'll try Valerio's recommendation.
>
> Thanks a lot Gombang, Modestas, Vale, :)
>
>

Same here, many thanks to Modestas Vainius for the quick pointer.
I installed the "old" gtk2-engines-qtcurve package, and chose it in
systemsettings for gtk apps. It does a ok job given that I use a grayish
dark theme (kfirefox doesn't seem to go well with dark themes).

Having purged "gtk-qt-engine" I realize that it was causing other issues
too, like completely messing the scroll bars (despite applying the "fix"
in systemsettings).

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Re: Iceweasel doesn't close when run on KDE

2009-11-22T05:47:41Z

Ok. I had been told it could be some issue in Kwin not really terminating firefox-bin process when clicking on the close button, that's why I thought it was a window manager issue, but there ya'll are, guys, always a source of knowledge, ;) . Purged gtk-qt-engine and the problem gone. Now IW looks ugly like a tooth-ache, but I'll try Valerio's recommendation.

Thanks a lot Gombang, Modestas, Vale, :)

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