Debian firefox

[Ken&Tam]

I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them
to show their true colors.

That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox
into a new browser. One in which is truly free & and embraces opensource.

A few of us our starting a foundation of sorts unrelated to debian, but we
are waiting for any new developments concerning the web browser issue. We
hope to include a debain based opensource web browser.

I am aware of the many opensource web browsers, but we do not wish to use
gnome or kde just to use one browser.

Please, challenge googlefox.. I mean firefox. The opensource movement will
surely follow. Thanks & best of luck.


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[Roberto C. Sánchez]

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 09:34:30PM +0000, klhrevolutionist@... wrote:
> I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them
> to show their true colors.
>
> That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox
> into a new browser. One in which is truly free & and embraces opensource.
>
I would like to propose a name: Debian WaterBuffalo

Regards,

-Roberto
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[Chris Waters]

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:27:01PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

> I would like to propose a name: Debian WaterBuffalo

I thought we already agreed on "IceWeasel".  :)

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[Roberto C. Sánchez]

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 11:46:45AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 01:27:01PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>
> > I would like to propose a name: Debian WaterBuffalo
>
> I thought we already agreed on "IceWeasel".  :)
>
There was some discussion about potential Firefox replacement names a
few days ago on IRC.  I suggested WaterBuffalo and Manoj and a couple of
other people really liked it.  Just an idea.

Regards,

-Roberto

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[Bastian Venthur-2]

klhrevolutionist@... wrote:
> I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them
> to show their true colors.
>
> That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox
> into a new browser. One in which is truly free & and embraces opensource.

Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are
only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since
the code itself is still free. They just want to make sure, that a
product wearing the official logo and carrying the official name
actually *is* the official firefox.

BTW, Debian has some restrictions too when you want to use the official
logo.

        http://www.us.debian.org/logos/#official-use


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[Nico Golde]

Hello Bastian,

* Bastian Venthur <expires-2007@...> [2006-10-03 22:29]:

> klhrevolutionist@... wrote:
> > I do hope that debian can overcome the recent of firefox. It is nice for them
> > to show their true colors.
> >
> > That being said I hope that debian can muster enough support to fork firefox
> > into a new browser. One in which is truly free & and embraces opensource.
>
> Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are
> only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since
> the code itself is still free. They just want to make sure, that a
> product wearing the official logo and carrying the official name
> actually *is* the official firefox.

If you consider the logo as code (what I do) then its wrong,
see: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622
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[Marc Haber-5]

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 09:09:41PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are
> only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since
> the code itself is still free. They just want to make sure, that a
> product wearing the official logo and carrying the official name
> actually *is* the official firefox.

They also have an abysmally bad handling of security issues for
everything that is not the latest and most shiny version. I don't know
whether they're noticeably better for what they claim to support.

Greetings
Marc

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[Bastian Venthur-2]

Marc Haber wrote:
> They also have an abysmally bad handling of security issues for
> everything that is not the latest and most shiny version. I don't know
> whether they're noticeably better for what they claim to support.

Maybe, but that was not my point. I somehow have the impression that
some people think firefox is non-free (or sort of) just because Debian
has to rebrand it. I just wanted to point out that Firefox itself is
free and the problem a bit more complicated.


Cheers,

Bastian

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[Alexander Sack - Debian Bugmail]

On Tue, Oct 03, 2006 at 09:09:41PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> Not sure what you mean. Firefox is free- and opensource. AFAIK they are
> only trying to protect their brand/trademark, which is IMHO ok, since

There is a difference of "protecting a brand" and "maximizing brand
value" ... there latest move is about the latter.


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[Shot (Piotr Szotkowski)]

Roberto C. Sanchez:

> There was some discussion about potential Firefox replacement
> names a few days ago on IRC. I suggested WaterBuffalo and Manoj
> and a couple of other people really liked it.

There also was an informal pool at
http://ze-dinosaur.livejournal.com/12539.html
with Iceweasel as the winner. I personally prefer
Firesocks, with Freefox as the close second.

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[Florian Weimer]

* Bastian Venthur:

> Maybe, but that was not my point. I somehow have the impression that
> some people think firefox is non-free (or sort of) just because Debian
> has to rebrand it.

I think you mean "unbrand".  Including our own logo with similar
restrictions would be somewhat embarrassing.


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