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I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying to use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask for it.  

So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with the following srstext

LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local Datum",0],UNIT["Meter", 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]


What do I put for proj4text?

Re: Define spatial reference system for local datum

by Suhr, Ralf :: Rate this Message:

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Do not use a local system. For everything larger than 200meters you need a srs definition, because you can't messure it exactly.

Take a projection from your living area und shift your geometrys to the right place.

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I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying to use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask for it.  

So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with the following srstext

LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local Datum",0],UNIT["Meter", 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]


What do I put for proj4text?
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Re: Define spatial reference system for local datum

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I'm not mapping anything on earth.  The world I'm doing is flat.  The polygons I'm drawing over is raster image I made.  So I'm trying not to use any ellipsoid projection.

Suhr, Ralf wrote:
Do not use a local system. For everything larger than 200meters you need a srs definition, because you can't messure it exactly.

Take a projection from your living area und shift your geometrys to the right place.

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I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying to use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask for it.  

So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with the following srstext

LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local Datum",0],UNIT["Meter", 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]


What do I put for proj4text?
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Re: Define spatial reference system for local datum

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Can you just set the SRID to -1.  What 'map design tool' are you
using?

   Sean

On Jun 30, 3:00 pm, tommy408 <tommytomo...@...> wrote:

> I'm not mapping anything on earth.  The world I'm doing is flat.  The
> polygons I'm drawing over is raster image I made.  So I'm trying not to use
> any ellipsoid projection.
>
>
>
> Suhr, Ralf wrote:
>
> > Do not use a local system. For everything larger than 200meters you need a
> > srs definition, because you can't messure it exactly.
>
> > Take a projection from your living area und shift your geometrys to the
> > right place.
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: postgis-users-boun...@...
> > [mailto:postgis-users-boun...@...] Im Auftrag von
> > tommy408
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009 12:26
> > An: postgis-us...@...
> > Betreff: [postgis-users] Define spatial reference system for local datum
>
> > I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying to
> > use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask for
> > it.
>
> > So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with the
> > following srstext
>
> > LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local Datum",0],UNIT["Meter",
> > 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]
>
> > What do I put for proj4text?
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Re: Define spatial reference system for local datum

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A lot of these tools that connect to postigs db requires a srid.  I was trying out Udig.  I don't need to use these tools.  I can just work with shapefile and import it to postgis.

But what I'm worry about is if I use a defined srid like EPSG:4326 and my personal map coordinates will mess up because of the projection.  The world I'm mapping is flat and endless, it doesn't wrap around like earth map.



Sean Fulton wrote:
Can you just set the SRID to -1.  What 'map design tool' are you
using?

   Sean

On Jun 30, 3:00 pm, tommy408 <tommytomo...@msn.com> wrote:
> I'm not mapping anything on earth.  The world I'm doing is flat.  The
> polygons I'm drawing over is raster image I made.  So I'm trying not to use
> any ellipsoid projection.
>
>
>
> Suhr, Ralf wrote:
>
> > Do not use a local system. For everything larger than 200meters you need a
> > srs definition, because you can't messure it exactly.
>
> > Take a projection from your living area und shift your geometrys to the
> > right place.
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net
> > [mailto:postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net] Im Auftrag von
> > tommy408
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009 12:26
> > An: postgis-us...@postgis.refractions.net
> > Betreff: [postgis-users] Define spatial reference system for local datum
>
> > I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying to
> > use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask for
> > it.
>
> > So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with the
> > following srstext
>
> > LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local Datum",0],UNIT["Meter",
> > 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]
>
> > What do I put for proj4text?
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >http://www.nabble.com/Define-spatial-reference-system-for-local-datum...
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Re: Define spatial reference system for local datum

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I'm not sure why you want to assign it an SRS of EPSG:4326.

uDig will load and Quantum GIS will happily load and edit the layers if
you assign an SRID of -1.


  Sean


On 2009-07-01 16:36:44 -0400, tommy408 <tommytomorow@...> said:

>
> A lot of these tools that connect to postigs db requires a srid.  I was
> trying out Udig.  I don't need to use these tools.  I can just work with
> shapefile and import it to postgis.
>
> But what I'm worry about is if I use a defined srid like EPSG:4326 and my
> personal map coordinates will mess up because of the projection.  The world
> I'm mapping is flat and endless, it doesn't wrap around like earth map.
>
>
>
>
> Sean Fulton wrote:
>>
>> Can you just set the SRID to -1.  What 'map design tool' are you
>> using?
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Jun 30, 3:00 pm, tommy408 <tommytomo...@...> wrote:
>>> I'm not mapping anything on earth.  The world I'm doing is flat.  The
>>> polygons I'm drawing over is raster image I made.  So I'm trying not to
>>> use
>>> any ellipsoid projection.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Suhr, Ralf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do not use a local system. For everything larger than 200meters you
>>> need a
>>>> srs definition, because you can't messure it exactly.
>>>
>>>> Take a projection from your living area und shift your geometrys to the
>>>> right place.
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: postgis-users-boun...@...
>>>> [mailto:postgis-users-boun...@...] Im Auftrag von
>>>> tommy408
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009 12:26
>>>> An: postgis-us...@...
>>>> Betreff: [postgis-users] Define spatial reference system for local
>>> datum
>>>
>>>> I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying
>>> to
>>>> use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask
>>> for
>>>> it.
>>>
>>>> So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with
>>> the
>>>> following srstext
>>>
>>>> LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local Datum",0],UNIT["Meter",
>>>> 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]
>>>
>>>> What do I put for proj4text?
>>>> --
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>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Define-spatial-reference-system-for-local-datum...
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Re: Define spatial reference system for local datum

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Thank you for your help Sean and Ralf.

When I load polygon table with srid of -1, Udig keeps saying undefined spatial reference...unexpected behavior might occur...etc.   And when I try to edit the layer, the layer constantly flashing and Udig crashes.


Sean Fulton wrote:
I'm not sure why you want to assign it an SRS of EPSG:4326.

uDig will load and Quantum GIS will happily load and edit the layers if
you assign an SRID of -1.


  Sean


On 2009-07-01 16:36:44 -0400, tommy408 <tommytomorow@msn.com> said:

>
> A lot of these tools that connect to postigs db requires a srid.  I was
> trying out Udig.  I don't need to use these tools.  I can just work with
> shapefile and import it to postgis.
>
> But what I'm worry about is if I use a defined srid like EPSG:4326 and my
> personal map coordinates will mess up because of the projection.  The world
> I'm mapping is flat and endless, it doesn't wrap around like earth map.
>
>
>
>
> Sean Fulton wrote:
>>
>> Can you just set the SRID to -1.  What 'map design tool' are you
>> using?
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> On Jun 30, 3:00 pm, tommy408 <tommytomo...@msn.com> wrote:
>>> I'm not mapping anything on earth.  The world I'm doing is flat.  The
>>> polygons I'm drawing over is raster image I made.  So I'm trying not to
>>> use
>>> any ellipsoid projection.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Suhr, Ralf wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do not use a local system. For everything larger than 200meters you
>>> need a
>>>> srs definition, because you can't messure it exactly.
>>>
>>>> Take a projection from your living area und shift your geometrys to the
>>>> right place.
>>>
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net
>>>> [mailto:postgis-users-boun...@postgis.refractions.net] Im Auftrag von
>>>> tommy408
>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009 12:26
>>>> An: postgis-us...@postgis.refractions.net
>>>> Betreff: [postgis-users] Define spatial reference system for local
>>> datum
>>>
>>>> I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying
>>> to
>>>> use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask
>>> for
>>>> it.
>>>
>>>> So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with
>>> the
>>>> following srstext
>>>
>>>> LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local Datum",0],UNIT["Meter",
>>>> 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]
>>>
>>>> What do I put for proj4text?
>>>> --
>>>> View this message in context:
>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Define-spatial-reference-system-for-local-datum...
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>>>
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Re: Define spatial reference system for local datum

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Like, I said uDig will load the layer.  Quantum GIS with load and edit it.

Try Quantum GIS http://www.qgis.org/en/download.html

Sean

On 2009-07-05 04:53:54 -0400, tommy408 <tommytomorow@...> said:

>
> Thank you for your help Sean and Ralf.
>
> When I load polygon table with srid of -1, Udig keeps saying undefined
> spatial reference...unexpected behavior might occur...etc.   And when I try
> to edit the layer, the layer constantly flashing and Udig crashes.
>
>
>
> Sean Fulton wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure why you want to assign it an SRS of EPSG:4326.
>>
>> uDig will load and Quantum GIS will happily load and edit the layers if
>> you assign an SRID of -1.
>>
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On 2009-07-01 16:36:44 -0400, tommy408 <tommytomorow@...> said:
>>
>>>
>>> A lot of these tools that connect to postigs db requires a srid.  I was
>>> trying out Udig.  I don't need to use these tools.  I can just work with
>>> shapefile and import it to postgis.
>>>
>>> But what I'm worry about is if I use a defined srid like EPSG:4326 and my
>>> personal map coordinates will mess up because of the projection.  The
>>> world
>>> I'm mapping is flat and endless, it doesn't wrap around like earth map.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean Fulton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can you just set the SRID to -1.  What 'map design tool' are you
>>>> using?
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 30, 3:00 pm, tommy408 <tommytomo...@...> wrote:
>>>>> I'm not mapping anything on earth.  The world I'm doing is flat.  The
>>>>> polygons I'm drawing over is raster image I made.  So I'm trying not to
>>>>> use
>>>>> any ellipsoid projection.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Suhr, Ralf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Do not use a local system. For everything larger than 200meters you
>>>>> need a
>>>>>> srs definition, because you can't messure it exactly.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Take a projection from your living area und shift your geometrys to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> right place.
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>>> Von: postgis-users-boun...@...
>>>>>> [mailto:postgis-users-boun...@...] Im Auftrag von
>>>>>> tommy408
>>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009 12:26
>>>>>> An: postgis-us...@...
>>>>>> Betreff: [postgis-users] Define spatial reference system for local
>>>>> datum
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't need special projection.  My map is a flat plane so I'm trying
>>>>> to
>>>>>> use local datum as my srs because a bunch of gis map design tool ask
>>>>> for
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So I'm trying to add a new srs into postgis spatial_ref_sys table with
>>>>> the
>>>>>> following srstext
>>>>>
>>>>>> LOCAL_CS["Non-Earth (Meter)",LOCAL_DATUM["Local
>>>>>> Datum",0],UNIT["Meter",
>>>>>> 1],AXIS["X",EAST],AXIS["Y",NORTH]]
>>>>>
>>>>>> What do I put for proj4text?
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/Define-spatial-reference-system-for-local-datum...
>>>>>> Sent from the PostGIS - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
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