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by EVL :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

I'm new to JTrac, and it looks good for me, pretty simple and functional.

I can't see a "delete" button to drop an issue. Sure it's a dumb question but, is there any way to delete an issue?


Thank you in advance,
Eva.

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by Ajit Kumar L (Systems) :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Eva,

In a tracking system like JTrac, you don't delete an item.  Rather you close an item.

Regards,

Ajit

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From: EVL [mailto:eva.villarroya@...]
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:31 PM
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Subject: [jtrac-users] Delete issue


Hi,

I'm new to JTrac, and it looks good for me, pretty simple and functional.

I can't see a "delete" button to drop an issue. Sure it's a dumb question
but, is there any way to delete an issue?


Thank you in advance,
Eva.
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Re: Delete issue

by Mike Conley-2 :: Rate this Message:

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>I can't see a "delete" button to drop an issue. Sure it's a dumb question
>but, is there any way to delete an issue?

It's almost always a bad idea to delete records from your
tracking database, as you risk losing historical information
which may be valuable, as well as accountability (who did what).
You open yourself up to the possibility of contributors playing
fast and loose with the facts (reducing the bug count
artificially, for instance) or covering up mistakes.

Certainly it's not a power to be granted anyone except the
admin, but, even then, individual users sometimes get ahold of
the admin password, and away you go.

-Mike

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Re: Delete issue

by EVL :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Mike,

I agree with you, and sure people does malicious use of delete, but I think is not a good idea not give people a chance and take it at their own risk. Users must decide themselves and be responsible of their actions, then they can learn from their mistakes.

A delete button could be configurable as optional fields or state change are, and let the admin decide if he gives the users that power and what constraints apply (which roles can use it).


Mike Conley-2 wrote:
>I can't see a "delete" button to drop an issue. Sure it's a dumb question
>but, is there any way to delete an issue?

It's almost always a bad idea to delete records from your
tracking database, as you risk losing historical information
which may be valuable, as well as accountability (who did what).
You open yourself up to the possibility of contributors playing
fast and loose with the facts (reducing the bug count
artificially, for instance) or covering up mistakes.

Certainly it's not a power to be granted anyone except the
admin, but, even then, individual users sometimes get ahold of
the admin password, and away you go.

-Mike

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Re: Delete issue

by EVL :: Rate this Message:

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So it does not cover the case I do a mistake and really want to delete the issue?


Ajit Kumar L (Systems) wrote:
Hi Eva,

In a tracking system like JTrac, you don't delete an item.  Rather you close an item.

Regards,

Ajit

-----Original Message-----
From: EVL [mailto:eva.villarroya@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:31 PM
To: j-trac-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [jtrac-users] Delete issue


Hi,

I'm new to JTrac, and it looks good for me, pretty simple and functional.

I can't see a "delete" button to drop an issue. Sure it's a dumb question
but, is there any way to delete an issue?


Thank you in advance,
Eva.
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Re: Delete issue

by Mike Conley-2 :: Rate this Message:

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>Users must decide themselves and be responsible of their actions, then they
>can learn from their mistakes.

The problem here is, that we've learned from years of experience
that it's a Bad Idea. Your users are no different to other users
who have gone before. It's just the wrong thing to do. So don't
do it.

>So it does not cover the case I do a mistake and really want to delete the
>issue?

Nope. If you make a mistake, make a note of it and close the
report. That's life in the fast lane.

All that having been said, there is a case to be made for being
able to export a portion of the database, excluding any
arbitrary subset of records, which makes it possible to weed out
old records. But note that this means you still have the old
database, and that it hasn't been modified. You're creating a
new one with fewer records. Much more time-consuming and
cumbersome than simply clicking a button to delete a record,
which is just as it should be.

-Mike

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Re: Delete issue

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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:30 PM, EVL <eva.villarroya@...> wrote:

Hi,

I'm new to JTrac, and it looks good for me, pretty simple and functional.

I can't see a "delete" button to drop an issue. Sure it's a dumb question
but, is there any way to delete an issue?


I do agree with the sentiment others have expressed, you don't normally delete tracking items.  But JTrac does support deleting of items: if you are logged in as an admin, you should see a [Delete] button to the top right of an issue once you click on the [Edit] link.

I'm not 100% sure if this is available in the 2.1.0 version though, so can you confirm ?

Thanks,

Peter.
 

Thank you in advance,
Eva.
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Re: Delete issue

by Saurb :: Rate this Message:

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In such a scenario I normally close the item with a comment indicating that
it was created in error.

-----Original Message-----
From: EVL [mailto:eva.villarroya@...]
Sent: 24 July 2009 01:10PM
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So it does not cover the case I do a mistake and really want to delete the
issue?



Ajit Kumar L (Systems) wrote:

>
> Hi Eva,
>
> In a tracking system like JTrac, you don't delete an item.  Rather you
> close an item.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ajit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EVL [mailto:eva.villarroya@...]
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 12:31 PM
> To: j-trac-users@...
> Subject: [jtrac-users] Delete issue
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to JTrac, and it looks good for me, pretty simple and functional.
>
> I can't see a "delete" button to drop an issue. Sure it's a dumb question
> but, is there any way to delete an issue?
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
> Eva.
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Re: Delete issue

by Mike Conley-2 :: Rate this Message:

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> I'm not 100% sure if this is available in the 2.1.0 version though, so can
> you confirm ?

Hm. You're right; it's there in 2.1.0. Oh, well.

Just use it wisely: With great power comes great responsibility.

-Mike

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Re: Delete issue

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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Mike Conley <nomad@...> wrote:
> I'm not 100% sure if this is available in the 2.1.0 version though, so can
> you confirm ?

Hm. You're right; it's there in 2.1.0. Oh, well.

Just use it wisely: With great power comes great responsibility.

-Mike

Thanks Mike.  Yep, hope the extra click to get to the Delete button helps :)


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Re: Delete issue

by EVL :: Rate this Message:

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That is what I was looking for.

People gets better paid for getting more responsabilities. Let them earn their salaries ;-)

And it asks if you are sure about deleting, too. Perfect!

ptrthomas wrote:
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Mike Conley <nomad@mac.com> wrote:

> > I'm not 100% sure if this is available in the 2.1.0 version though, so
> can
> > you confirm ?
>
> Hm. You're right; it's there in 2.1.0. Oh, well.
>
> Just use it wisely: With great power comes great responsibility.
>
> -Mike
>

Thanks Mike.  Yep, hope the extra click to get to the Delete button helps :)

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