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[Isi]

Hi

Does it already exist the Developer Guide? Otherwise, when is it planned? :-)

Thanks a lot

Is

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[Joern Turner]

2009/11/5 Legido Martínez, Isidoro <islegmar@...>:
> Hi
> Does it already exist the Developer Guide? Otherwise, when is it planned?
We're working on it currently. Will be available within the next few weeks.

But you can help - please let us know what you would like to read and
i'll see what can be added.

Joern

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[Isi]

Hi Joern

Thanks for the reply. I am just starting a project with Xforms and I have decided to use Chiba so I'm still not sure what I will need

:-) but I can work as a "read-tester" if you want. My profile is Java Developer with good knowledge of XML, XSL,.... and a "just for living" knowldge of HTML, CSS and JScript.

Isi

2009/11/5 Joern Turner <joern.turner@...>

2009/11/5 Legido Martínez, Isidoro <islegmar@...>:

> Hi
> Does it already exist the Developer Guide? Otherwise, when is it planned?

We're working on it currently. Will be available within the next few weeks.

But you can help - please let us know what you would like to read and
i'll see what can be added.

Joern

> :-)
> Thanks a lot
> Is
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[Vodoo Moth]

Hi Joern, hi all,

As far as I'm concerned, I would like to read about (at least):
- a more or less detailed description of what happens in the whole process of serving and
- examples, examples, examples, which would be very helpful wrt tricky things like nested binds (and in general, xforms:repeat's). How to declare the binds in the model, how to reference them later in the form. Where relative paths apply and where absolute paths are needed. These are things I have trouble with these days.
- do's and don'ts that may be helpful.

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2009/11/5 Legido Martínez, Isidoro <islegmar@...>:
> Hi
> Does it already exist the Developer Guide? Otherwise, when is it planned?
We're working on it currently. Will be available within the next few weeks.

But you can help - please let us know what you would like to read and
i'll see what can be added.

Joern



     

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[Joern Turner]

Thanks a lot.

I'll certainly regard your post when working on it. As you refer to
examples: we currently work on setting up our 'XFormsFeatureExplorer'
initiative. We believe that live examples with explanations alongside
much more to get into XForms than reading long tutorials. So we
decided to start XForms pages that show example markup along with the
real running form. The reference pages for all control and group,
repeat, switch are ready now and will be part of the next release.
We'll then continue extending these example pages that are meant to be
used as a reference if you're unsure about the syntax or specialized
more complicated patterns like repeat paging, event handling issues,
actions and submission patterns. And not to forget of course repeats.

Joern
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Vodoo Moth <vodoomoth@...> wrote:

> Hi Joern, hi all,
>
> As far as I'm concerned, I would like to read about (at least):
> - a more or less detailed description of what happens in the whole process of serving and
> - examples, examples, examples, which would be very helpful wrt tricky things like nested binds (and in general, xforms:repeat's). How to declare the binds in the model, how to reference them later in the form. Where relative paths apply and where absolute paths are needed. These are things I have trouble with these days.
> - do's and don'ts that may be helpful.
>
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> De : Joern Turner <joern.turner@...>
> À : islegmar@...
> Cc : chiba-users@...
> Envoyé le : Jeu 5 Novembre 2009, 12 h 34 min 15 s
> Objet : Re: [Chiba-users] Developer Guide
>
> 2009/11/5 Legido Martínez, Isidoro <islegmar@...>:
>> Hi
>> Does it already exist the Developer Guide? Otherwise, when is it planned?
> We're working on it currently. Will be available within the next few weeks.
>
> But you can help - please let us know what you would like to read and
> i'll see what can be added.
>
> Joern
>
>
>
>
>

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[Joern Turner]

Thanks for the offer,

i'll send you a working copy of our current document tomorrow. There's
a user's guide (already finished i hope) and a developer guide (mostly
to be written). Always thankful for a helping hand - just being too
blind now of what people might want to read and how good explanations
really are. Feel free to comment and add your suggestions for
additional content.

Joern

2009/11/5 Legido Martínez, Isidoro <islegmar@...>:

> Hi Joern
> Thanks for the reply. I am just starting a project with Xforms and I have
> decided to use Chiba so I'm still not sure what I will need
> :-) but I can work as a "read-tester" if you want. My profile is Java
> Developer with good knowledge of XML, XSL,.... and a "just for living"
> knowldge of HTML, CSS and JScript.
> Isi
>
> 2009/11/5 Joern Turner <joern.turner@...>
>>
>> 2009/11/5 Legido Martínez, Isidoro <islegmar@...>:
>> > Hi
>> > Does it already exist the Developer Guide? Otherwise, when is it
>> > planned?
>> We're working on it currently. Will be available within the next few
>> weeks.
>>
>> But you can help - please let us know what you would like to read and
>> i'll see what can be added.
>>
>> Joern
>>
>> > :-)
>> > Thanks a lot
>> > Is
>> >
>> >
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[Tambet Matiisen]

Vodoo Moth wrote:

Hi Joern, hi all,

As far as I'm concerned, I would like to read about (at least):
- a more or less detailed description of what happens in the whole process of serving and 
- examples, examples, examples, which would be very helpful wrt tricky things like nested binds (and in general, xforms:repeat's). How to declare the binds in the model, how to reference them later in the form. Where relative paths apply and where absolute paths are needed. These are things I have trouble with these days.
- do's and don'ts that may be helpful.
  

Have you tried XForms Cookbook?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/XForms

That got me going...

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[Vodoo Moth]

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I didn't try that link, I started with the ChibaCookBook included in Chiba 2.3

As an example, while trying to solve a bug, I discovered that some <xforms:bind> elements in the model are considered as readonly even though there is no readonly="true()" attribute. That happended for repeaters, hence my previous suggestion.

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Objet : Re: [Chiba-users] Re : Developer Guide

Vodoo Moth wrote:

Hi Joern, hi all,

As far as I'm concerned, I would like to read about (at least):
- a more or less detailed description of what happens in the whole process of serving and 
- examples, examples, examples, which would be very helpful wrt tricky things like nested binds (and in general, xforms:repeat's). How to declare the binds in the model, how to reference them later in the form. Where relative paths apply and where absolute paths are needed. These are things I have trouble with these days.
- do's and don'ts that may be helpful.
  

Have you tried XForms Cookbook?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/XForms

That got me going...

  Tambet

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[Joern Turner]

Can you please give a markup sample that shows your problem. Otherwise
it's hard to say if things are right or not. Ideally you have a
complete form reduced to the barebones of your problem that we can run
ourselves.

Nodes can  become readonly by calculate attributes for instance.

Joern

2009/11/10 Vodoo Moth <vodoomoth@...>:

> I didn't try that link, I started with the ChibaCookBook included in Chiba
> 2.3
>
> As an example, while trying to solve a bug, I discovered that some
> <xforms:bind> elements in the model are considered as readonly even though
> there is no readonly="true()" attribute. That happended for repeaters, hence
> my previous suggestion.
>
> ________________________________
> De : Tambet Matiisen <tambet.matiisen@...>
> À : chiba-users@...
> Envoyé le : Lun 9 Novembre 2009, 8 h 31 min 06 s
> Objet : Re: [Chiba-users] Re : Developer Guide
>
> Vodoo Moth wrote:
>
> Hi Joern, hi all,
>
> As far as I'm concerned, I would like to read about (at least):
> - a more or less detailed description of what happens in the whole process
> of serving and
> - examples, examples, examples, which would be very helpful wrt tricky
> things like nested binds (and in general, xforms:repeat's). How to declare
> the binds in the model, how to reference them later in the form. Where
> relative paths apply and where absolute paths are needed. These are things I
> have trouble with these days.
> - do's and don'ts that may be helpful.
>
>
> Have you tried XForms Cookbook?
> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/XForms
>
> That got me going...
>
>   Tambet
>
>
>
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[Vodoo Moth]

OK. I'm sending you the whole xhtml file in its readonly version (ending with "RO.xhtml"). Unfortunately, we have custom uri schemes in it so the file will not be "runnable" as-is.

Adding <readonly="true()">  on line 61 causes a problem. We need to remove the readonly
attribute to have the form display in the web client. If left in the file, we get an exception reading
(paraphrase) "this bind already has attribute readonly".

Thanks for the interest.


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Objet : Re: [Chiba-users] Re : Re : Developer Guide

Can you please give a markup sample that shows your problem. Otherwise
it's hard to say if things are right or not. Ideally you have a
complete form reduced to the barebones of your problem that we can run
ourselves.

Nodes can  become readonly by calculate attributes for instance.

Joern

2009/11/10 Vodoo Moth <vodoomoth@...>:
> I didn't try that link, I started with the ChibaCookBook included in Chiba
> 2.3
>
> As an example, while trying to solve a bug, I discovered that some
> <xforms:bind> elements in the model are considered as readonly even though
> there is no readonly="true()" attribute. That happended for repeaters, hence
> my previous suggestion.
>




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[Joern Turner]

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Vodoo Moth <vodoomoth@...> wrote:
> OK. I'm sending you the whole xhtml file in its readonly version (ending with "RO.xhtml"). Unfortunately, we have custom uri schemes in it so the file will not be "runnable" as-is.
>
> Adding <readonly="true()">  on line 61 causes a problem. We need to remove the readonly
> attribute to have the form display in the web client. If left in the file, we get an exception reading
> (paraphrase) "this bind already has attribute readonly".
This is the correct behavior as per spec as there's already a readonly
modelitem at the node bound by that bind element. Line 61 is binding
to ArticleTechParagrapheRW/field_23/associationItem which is already
be used in line 57 (in that case with a predicate). Nevertheless in
line 61 you try to again add the readonly property causing the
exception.

The XForms spec. allows only one modelitem per type (readonly, valid,
required, relevant, type and calculate) for a Node in the instance.
Probably that will change in future versions. Chiba 3 behaves a bit
more friendly by not just throwing he exception but raising a
xforms-binding-exception.

>
> Thanks for the interest.
>
>
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> À : Vodoo Moth <vodoomoth@...>
> Cc : Tambet Matiisen <tambet.matiisen@...>; chiba-users@...
> Envoyé le : Mar 10 Novembre 2009, 15 h 08 min 53 s
> Objet : Re: [Chiba-users] Re : Re : Developer Guide
>
> Can you please give a markup sample that shows your problem. Otherwise
> it's hard to say if things are right or not. Ideally you have a
> complete form reduced to the barebones of your problem that we can run
> ourselves.
>
> Nodes can  become readonly by calculate attributes for instance.
>
> Joern
>
> 2009/11/10 Vodoo Moth <vodoomoth@...>:
>> I didn't try that link, I started with the ChibaCookBook included in Chiba
>> 2.3
>>
>> As an example, while trying to solve a bug, I discovered that some
>> <xforms:bind> elements in the model are considered as readonly even though
>> there is no readonly="true()" attribute. That happended for repeaters, hence
>> my previous suggestion.
>>
>
>
>

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