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[drewjensen]

Hello list,

Did you know that 33% of the time when a Base user starts the form
wizard dialog they cancel out without finishing?

Do you know that in the current user feedback data, up to June 17th,
users dispatched the event .uno:DBRelationDesign 952 times, BUT, only
dispatched .uno:DBNewReport 15 times? (Now that just seems odd to me.)

Anyway - if you want to play around with the data, and if like me you
prefer SQL queries over Calc formula, here ya go - a Base import of the
Calc file found on wiki. [an ID field was added during import is the
only change]

http://baseanswers.com/downloads/ooo_userfeedback_6_17.odb

or the original ods file can be found at
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:OOo31_Usage_Feedback_Data.ods


Drew

ps - Did you know that Sun Microsystems offers certifications for
OpenOffice.org? They do - for Writer, for Calc and for Impress..the
whole suite in other words? :-p



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[Mechtilde Stehmann-2]

Hello Drew,

Drew Jensen schrieb:
> Hello list,
>
> Did you know that 33% of the time when a Base user starts the form
> wizard dialog they cancel out without finishing?

Can you explain some more details to understand the background?


> Do you know that in the current user feedback data, up to June 17th,
> users dispatched the event .uno:DBRelationDesign 952 times, BUT, only
> dispatched .uno:DBNewReport 15 times? (Now that just seems odd to me.)

here also

> Anyway - if you want to play around with the data, and if like me you
> prefer SQL queries over Calc formula, here ya go - a Base import of the
> Calc file found on wiki. [an ID field was added during import is the
> only change]
>
> http://baseanswers.com/downloads/ooo_userfeedback_6_17.odb
>
> or the original ods file can be found at
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Image:OOo31_Usage_Feedback_Data.ods
>
>
>
> Drew
>
> ps - Did you know that Sun Microsystems offers certifications for
> OpenOffice.org? They do - for Writer, for Calc and for Impress..the
> whole suite in other words? :-p

I miss all things around databases :-)

Functions which are bundled in Base


Kind regards

Mechtilde
>


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[Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany]

Hi Drew,

> Do you know that in the current user feedback data, up to June 17th,
> users dispatched the event .uno:DBRelationDesign 952 times, BUT, only
> dispatched .uno:DBNewReport 15 times? (Now that just seems odd to me.)

The improvement program obviously doesn't catch actions started from the
task pane, but only those from the menu and toolbar.
Just talked to the framework project lead, he said that this is known
that in Base, not everything is captured. So, this is something to keep
in mind when interpreting the data.

Ciao
Frank

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[drewjensen]

Mechtilde wrote:

> Hello Drew,
>
> Drew Jensen schrieb:
>  
>> Hello list,
>>
>> Did you know that 33% of the time when a Base user starts the form
>> wizard dialog they cancel out without finishing?
>>    
>
> Can you explain some more details to understand the background?
>  

Sure - if you look at the database I reference you'll find a query
'FormWizard' just to try and make it easier to find related items. Here
you find two entries:

FormWizard-FinishBtn - clicked 1687 times
and
FormWizard-CancelBtn - clicked 554 times

Darn, my math is wrong..*smile*.. so much for my estimating skills..
Total is 2241
554/2241 = 0.247211066

So they 'bail out' ~25% of the time.

What this all really means I am far from certain and it's going to take
some effort just to figure out what to query for.

For instance if I run this query:
SELECT * FROM "All Applications" WHERE UPPER ( "VCL" ) LIKE
'%STANDARDFILTER%'

I get back 32 records, including two for :
StandardFilter-BereicheEnthaeltSpaltenkoepfe
[checked] 19 times [unchecked] 18 times

What I was interested in is the Standard Filter as used in Base, but I
don't think that is what I'm getting with that query..so I need to find out:
A - is the filtering I am interested in going to have entries under VCL
or Uno Dispatch
B- what strings am I needing to search for
C - is the data even being captured, yet.


Anyway - if I change the search criteria to %FILTER% then in the results
this string:
StandardFilter-Feldname3

Now maybe that is from a control on the Standard Filter dialog I am
looking for?

One thing I would like to know is:
How often does a person using the Standard Filter dialog actually use
all three criteria lines?


Bottom lines I suppose is that this is going to take time and effort and
we might just have to wait for the real data for Base to get into the
feedback channel.

Drew

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[drewjensen]

Drew Jensen wrote:

> Mechtilde wrote:
>> Hello Drew,
>>
>> Drew Jensen schrieb:
>>  
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> Did you know that 33% of the time when a Base user starts the form
>>> wizard dialog they cancel out without finishing?
>>>    
>>
>> Can you explain some more details to understand the background?
>>  
>
> Sure - if you look at the database I reference you'll find a query
> 'FormWizard' just to try and make it easier to find related items.
> Here you find two entries:
>
> FormWizard-FinishBtn - clicked 1687 times
> and
> FormWizard-CancelBtn - clicked 554 times
>
> Darn, my math is wrong..*smile*.. so much for my estimating skills..
> Total is 2241
> 554/2241 = 0.247211066
>
> So they 'bail out' ~25% of the time.

Drat - ok, before anyone points out the obvious mistake in thinking
there - yes it misses the user just closing the dialog via the system
menu...like I say this is gonna take a little time and more then a
little thought to get it right.

But gotta start somewhere.

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[Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany]

Hi Drew,

> What this all really means I am far from certain and it's going to take
> some effort just to figure out what to query for.

You could do the action you're interested in yourself, and then, in
"Tools/Options/OpenOffice.org/Improvement Program/Show Data" look up
what has been recorded.

Ciao
Frank

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[drewjensen]

Frank Schönheit - Sun Microsystems Germany wrote:

> Hi Drew,
>
>  
>> What this all really means I am far from certain and it's going to take
>> some effort just to figure out what to query for.
>>    
>
> You could do the action you're interested in yourself, and then, in
> "Tools/Options/OpenOffice.org/Improvement Program/Show Data" look up
> what has been recorded.
>
>  

Great - I was thinking there must be an easy way to see what is being
gathered. I'll try it.

BTW - just posted a few questions regarding all this to the UX mailing
list -

 From that post and not sure this is totally valid:

AutoFilter count = 1924
StandardFilter count = 481

The email on the other mailing list goes into "how" I arrived at those
numbers and asks if I'm making sense of it, or just chasing an illusion.


Drew

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