Digital Camera

[Adam Hardy (debian)]

nikon D60 on 23/03/08 20:37, wrote:
> http://www.nikond60.com Nikon D60
>
> Robert Thompson wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>    I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a USB
>> to
>> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work with
>> Debian?

Try:

sudo gphoto2 --auto-detect -P



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[Nick Boyce-2]

Tyler Smith wrote:

>> Robert Thompson wrote:
 >>
>>> Question is: How does digital cameras work with
>>> Debian?
>>>
 >
> I've found gthumb to be a pretty good place to begin
> There are doubtless also KDE apps that do the same thing, if you prefer.

For KDE there is 'digiKam' :
http://www.digikam.org/about.html
http://packages.debian.org/digikam

I haven't tried it (don't have a digital camera).

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[Charlie-67]

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Adam Hardy shared this with us all:

>--} nikon D60 on 23/03/08 20:37, wrote:
>--} > http://www.nikond60.com Nikon D60
>--} >
>--} > Robert Thompson wrote:
>--} >> Hello All,
>--} >>    I also have a digital camera that I love. It is a Sony that uses a
> USB --} >> to
>--} >> connect to the computer. Question is: How does digital cameras work
> with --} >> Debian?
>--}
>--} Try:
>--}
>--} sudo gphoto2 --auto-detect -P

This might not suit but I do it this way:

Plug in your camera, or have your camera plugged in when you boot:

Using <blkid> as root - discover the UUID="xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" of the camera and
make a suitable entry into your /etc/fstab file:

UUID=xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  /cam            vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0

Plug your camera in whenever you have photos to remove from it
<mv> or <cp> them to the directory you want on your hard drive and work on
them there with Gimp.

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[s. keeling-2]

Nick Boyce <nick@...>:

>  Tyler Smith wrote:
> >> Robert Thompson wrote:
> >>
> >>> Question is: How does digital cameras work with
> >>> Debian?
> >
> > I've found gthumb to be a pretty good place to begin
> > There are doubtless also KDE apps that do the same thing, if you
> > prefer.
>
>  For KDE there is 'digiKam' :
>  http://www.digikam.org/about.html
>  http://packages.debian.org/digikam

On my system (pretty much bare-metal + X), that wants to slurp in
about twenty packages.  gthumb wants to slurp in just about as
many.  :-)

I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?


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[David E. Fox]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:

>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?

There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?

On the subject of cheap cameras, my first foray was a $10 key chain
camera that really sucked but I managed to get it working in Linux,
but I had to use gphoto2 to do it. And if the USB manufacturer ID
isn't there, chances are it's not supported. The little I checked on
Google for this camera, I didn't manage to see anything that said it
was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
they gave you source code when they really didn't.

>From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
backend (not sure about this).

dfox@m206-157:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
        "Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)
        "Concord Eye-Q Easy" (EXPERIMENTAL)
        "Concord EyeQ 4330" (EXPERIMENTAL)
        "Concord EyeQMini_1" (EXPERIMENTAL)
        "Concord EyeQMini_2" (EXPERIMENTAL)

Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help
test various ways to use that cheap camera before I saw reason and got
a Kodak C310 :).

All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it
seems to) since it is far easier to just get a cheap SD card reader
USB attachment, and take the card out when you want to download the
pictures.


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[s. keeling-2]

David Fox <dfox94085@...>:
>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
>
> >  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
> >  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
>
>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.

Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.

>  Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?

USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.

>  was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
>  because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
>  Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
>  they gave you source code when they really didn't.

About as useful as that Windows zip file I pulled down off their
website the other night.  Don't know what I'm going to do with it, but
I have it.

> >From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
>  that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
>  backend (not sure about this).

That's what I read as well.

>  dfox@m206-157:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
>          "Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)

Same list here.

>  Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
>  possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
>  gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help

I'll troll their archives.  Thanks.

>  All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it

No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P


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[Ron Johnson]

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On 03/25/08 19:00, s. keeling wrote:

> David Fox <dfox94085@...>:
>>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
>>
>>>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
>>>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
>>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
>>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
>
> Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.
>
>>  Does that camera mount as a USB device or PTP?
>
> USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
> camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.
>
>>  was supported. But it has a better chance of being supported possibly
>>  because there are free "open" (so called) drivers on the Net for it.
>>  Which of course, could mean anything, like a binary wrapper claiming
>>  they gave you source code when they really didn't.
>
> About as useful as that Windows zip file I pulled down off their
> website the other night.  Don't know what I'm going to do with it, but
> I have it.
>
>> >From 'gphoto2" on my system - it seems that these are the same models
>>  that digikam supports, presumably because digikam uses gphoto2 as a a
>>  backend (not sure about this).
>
> That's what I read as well.
>
>>  dfox@m206-157:~$ gphoto2 --list-cameras | grep Concord
>>          "Concord Eye-Q Duo" (EXPERIMENTAL)
>
> Same list here.
>
>>  Again, not the exact model, but this is a good starting point. Another
>>  possibility (should this not be helpful) would be to inquire on the
>>  gphoto2 mailing list. I did that before to get feedback and to help
>
> I'll troll their archives.  Thanks.
>
>>  All this is moot IF your camera supports a removable SD card (which it
>
> No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P

I think I'd just try this, and see what happens:

# gphoto2 --verbose --auto-detect

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[David E. Fox]

On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 5:00 PM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
>  USB cable on PC end, looks like very small proprietary connector on
>  camera end.  I don't think it's mini-USB, but I could be wrong.

rant - I hate proprietary usb cables. I got screwed by that experience ;(.

>  No such luck.  They put in a 2 digit LCD shot counter, though.  :-P

Darn. Hope you have success.


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[s. keeling-2]

Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>:

>
>  On 03/25/08 19:00, s. keeling wrote:
> > David Fox <dfox94085@...>:
> >>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
> >>>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
> >>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
> >>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
> >
> > Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.
>
>  I think I'd just try this, and see what happens:
>
>  # gphoto2 --verbose --auto-detect

(1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
Model                          Port
----------------------------------------------------------
(0) phreaque /home/keeling_


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On 03/26/08 07:27, s. keeling wrote:

> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>:
>>  On 03/25/08 19:00, s. keeling wrote:
>>> David Fox <dfox94085@...>:
>>>>  On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 8:34 PM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I've one seriously cheapo Concord Eye-Q 1000 (1.3 Mpx res.).  This
>>>>>  model is not listed in gtkam's database.  Does digiKam handle it?
>>>>  There's no exact match in digikam (current lenny) but there are some
>>>>  other close models to that Concord model. You might try one of those.
>>> Tried 'em all.  gtkam can't detect it using any of them.
>>  I think I'd just try this, and see what happens:
>>
>>  # gphoto2 --verbose --auto-detect
>
> (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> Model                          Port
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> (0) phreaque /home/keeling_

Buy a new camera?  They're *really* cheap...

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[David E. Fox]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
>  (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
>  Model                          Port
>  ----------------------------------------------------------
>  (0) phreaque /home/keeling_

So it doesn't detect it at all, then. Bummer. Are there entries in
/var/log/messages as you plug in (and unplug) the camera from the USB?
Those might be of use, especially in composing a message to the
gphoto2 mailing list.

Pretty much, those IDs have to match perfectly or it can't be used.


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[s. keeling-2]

David Fox <dfox94085@...>:
>  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
> >  (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> >  Model                          Port
> >  ----------------------------------------------------------
> >  (0) phreaque /home/keeling_
>
>  So it doesn't detect it at all, then. Bummer. Are there entries in
>  /var/log/messages as you plug in (and unplug) the camera from the USB?

tail -f syslog    # unplug, then plug.  I notice it had address
                  # 6, then it gets address 7.  Huh.  Guess that's
                  # udev.

Mar 27 18:43:18 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6
Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

>  Those might be of use, especially in composing a message to the
>  gphoto2 mailing list.
>
>  Pretty much, those IDs have to match perfectly or it can't be used.

There's also lsusb:

(0) phreaque [root] /root_ lsusb
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03e8:2186 EndPoints, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000

Lots to go on it seems, but this thing will have to wait for
solutions, barring what gphoto2 ml says.


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[s. keeling-2]

Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@...>:
>
>  On 03/26/08 07:27, s. keeling wrote:
> >
> > (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> > Model                          Port
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > (0) phreaque /home/keeling_
>
>  Buy a new camera?  They're *really* cheap...

This one was free.  I wouldn't be fiddling with this if somebody
hadn't given it to me.  I only care about what it's teaching me.  I
don't care about digital cameras.

Besides, you get what you pay for.  It's a great deal, so far.


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[ajm-2]

On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 01:51:00AM +0100, s. keeling wrote:

> David Fox <dfox94085@...>:
> >  On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:27 AM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
> > >  (1) phreaque /home/keeling_ gphoto2 --auto-detect
> > >  Model                          Port
> > >  ----------------------------------------------------------
> > >  (0) phreaque /home/keeling_
> >
> >  So it doesn't detect it at all, then. Bummer. Are there entries in
> >  /var/log/messages as you plug in (and unplug) the camera from the USB?
>
> tail -f syslog    # unplug, then plug.  I notice it had address
>                   # 6, then it gets address 7.  Huh.  Guess that's
>                   # udev.
>
> Mar 27 18:43:18 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 6
> Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
> Mar 27 18:43:29 phreaque kernel: usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>
> >  Those might be of use, especially in composing a message to the
> >  gphoto2 mailing list.
> >
> >  Pretty much, those IDs have to match perfectly or it can't be used.
>
> There's also lsusb:
>
> (0) phreaque [root] /root_ lsusb
> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
> Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03e8:2186 EndPoints, Inc.
> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
>
> Lots to go on it seems, but this thing will have to wait for
> solutions, barring what gphoto2 ml says.
>
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If the camera has a memory card, then try a memory card reader.  I had a
concord eye-Q and that is how I did the download of photos.  By the way,
I did not use gphoto2.  I manually "mount" and "umount" the drive.
With Gnome or KDE the mounting is automatically.  Hope this helps.


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[David E. Fox]

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 5:51 PM, s. keeling <keeling@...> wrote:
>  There's also lsusb:
>
>  (0) phreaque [root] /root_ lsusb
>  Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
>  Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
>  Bus 001 Device 006: ID 03e8:2186 EndPoints, Inc.

Most likely that's the bus ID of the camera. I tried doing a google
search for that string (or just a substring) and it just shows this
post, nothing else.


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