Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information

[Quadir Kareemullah]

Hi All,

I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.

Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these lists.

- Quadir

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9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allâh. That is the supreme success.

-- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186

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[Chinmay Nagarkar-2]

Hi All,

I have seen few people putting religious content into their email signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.

-Chinmay

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.

Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these lists.

- Quadir

--
************************************************************************************

9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allâh. That is the supreme success.

-- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186

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[Dean H. Saxe]

Actually, the First Amendment prevents the government from limiting  
speech, not private enterprise:

"The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of  
the United States Bill of Rights that expressly prohibits the United  
States Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of  
religion" or that prohibit the free exercise of religion, infringe the  
freedom of speech, infringe the freedom of the press, limit the right  
to peaceably assemble, or limit the right to petition the government  
for a redress of grievances.

Although the First Amendment only explicitly applies to the Congress,  
the Supreme Court has interpreted it as applying to the executive and  
judicial branches. Additionally, in the 20th century, the Supreme  
Court held that the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment  
applies the limitations of the First Amendment to each state,  
including any local government within a state."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_amendment

-dhs

Dean H. Saxe, CISSP, CEH
dean@...
"Dissent is the purest form of patriotism."
     --Thomas Jefferson



On Jul 2, 2009, at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email  
> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists  
> are technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First  
> Amendment allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense  
> is caused.
>
> -Chinmay
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah  
> <quadir@...> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication  
> to AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job.  
> Please CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.
>
> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public  
> on the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists 
>  so I advise against including personal information in your emails  
> sent to these lists.
>
> - Quadir
>
> --
> ************************************************************************************
>
> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers,  
> supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the  
> people) Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders  
> one to do), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and  
> disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); they  
> perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give the Zakât, and obey  
> Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on them. Surely  
> Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
> 9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens  
> under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful  
> mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss  
> is the Good Pleasure of Allâh. That is the supreme success.
>
> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members@...
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members@...
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members

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[Quadir Kareemullah]

Chinmay,

Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out of such a trivial issue.

Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o t g m a i l d o t c o m.

- Quadir

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar <chinmay.nagarkar@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have seen few people putting religious content into their email signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.

-Chinmay

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.

Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these lists.

- Quadir

--
************************************************************************************

9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allâh. That is the supreme success.

-- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186

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Bismillahirahmanirraheem
(In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)

1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers.
5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue committing sins.
6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
11. No! There is no refuge!
12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin, hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).

THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):

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[David Caswell]

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From: Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...>
To: ajug-members@...
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2009 6:38:40 PM
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information

Chinmay,

Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out of such a trivial issue.

Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o t g m a i l d o t c o m.

- Quadir

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar <chinmay.nagarkar@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have seen few people putting religious content into their email signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.

-Chinmay

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...> wrote:

Hi All,

I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.

Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these lists.

- Quadir

--
************************************************************************************

9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters, friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure of Allâh. That is the supreme success.

-- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186

************************************************************************************

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--
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Bismillahirahmanirraheem
(In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)

1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his fingers.
5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue committing sins.
6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
11. No! There is no refuge!
12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin, hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).

THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):

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[Ryan Ovrevik-4]

I don't think Chinmay made "a big deal out of such a trivial issue". I
think that it was non-confrontational and courteous.

Personally, I would prefer to not see religious signatures on this (or
any) list.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Quadir Kareemullah<quadir@...> wrote:

> Chinmay,
>
> Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
> signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the
> mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
> always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out
> of such a trivial issue.
>
> Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone
> want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o
> t g m a i l d o t c o m.
>
> - Quadir
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar
> <chinmay.nagarkar@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
>> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
>> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
>> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>>
>> -Chinmay
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
>>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
>>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>>>
>>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
>>> the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so
>>> I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> - Quadir
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters,
>>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'rûf
>>> (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid
>>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
>>> that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give
>>> the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on
>>> them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>>> 9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
>>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
>>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
>>> of Allâh. That is the supreme success.
>>>
>>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>>
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members@...
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members@...
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ************************************************************************************
> Bismillahirahmanirraheem
> (In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)
>
> 1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
> 2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
> 3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
> 4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
> fingers.
> 5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue
> committing sins.
> 6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
> 7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
> 8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
> 9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other
> or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
> 10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
> 11. No! There is no refuge!
> 12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
> 13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or
> good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
> 14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
> hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
> 15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).
>
> THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members@...
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>

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[Paul Milazzo]

Amen to that...

Oops!

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic@...> wrote:

From: Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic@...>
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information
To: ajug-members@...
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:19 PM

I don't think Chinmay made "a big deal out of such a trivial issue". I
think that it was non-confrontational and courteous.

Personally, I would prefer to not see religious signatures on this (or
any) list.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Quadir Kareemullah<quadir@...> wrote:

> Chinmay,
>
> Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
> signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the
> mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
> always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out
> of such a trivial issue.
>
> Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone
> want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o
> t g m a i l d o t c o m.
>
> - Quadir
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar
> <chinmay.nagarkar@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
>> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
>> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
>> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>>
>> -Chinmay
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
>>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
>>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>>>
>>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
>>> the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so
>>> I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> - Quadir
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters,
>>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'rûf
>>> (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid
>>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
>>> that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give
>>> the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on
>>> them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>>> 9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
>>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
>>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
>>> of Allâh. That is the supreme success.
>>>
>>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>>
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members@...
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> ajug-members mailing list
>> ajug-members@...
>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ************************************************************************************
> Bismillahirahmanirraheem
> (In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)
>
> 1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
> 2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
> 3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
> 4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
> fingers.
> 5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue
> committing sins.
> 6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
> 7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
> 8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
> 9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other
> or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
> 10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
> 11. No! There is no refuge!
> 12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
> 13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or
> good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
> 14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
> hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
> 15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).
>
> THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):
>
> ************************************************************************************
>
> _______________________________________________
> ajug-members mailing list
> ajug-members@...
> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>
>

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[Tim Watts]

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live
as one wishes to live.
 -- Oscar Wilde

Expressing one's personal beliefs is not necessarily asking others to believe.
It /is/ something that should be tolerated in a reasonably open society -- of
which I hope AJUG is a part. To be offended by another's personal beliefs is
more a problem for the offendee than the offender. (And a good solution, BTW,
is to realize that disagreeing with someone's viewpoint doesn't necessarily
mean we're being oppressed by it.)

If someone is inclined to express something about who they are unrelated to
the context of the email message then I guess the email sig would be just the
place to put it. That said, netiquette has something to say about the length
of one's sig...

Happy Independence Day everyone!


On Thursday 02 July 2009 4:39:19 pm Chinmay Nagarkar wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>
> -Chinmay
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...>wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
> > AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please
> > CHECK your Reply list before sending out the email.
> >
> > Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
> > the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists
> > so I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to
> > these lists.
> >
> > - Quadir
> >
> > --
> >
> > *************************************************************************
> >***********
> >
> > 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters,
> > friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people)
> > Al-Ma'rûf (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do),
> > and forbid (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all
> > kinds, and all that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât
> > (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger.
> > Allâh will have His Mercy on them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
> > 9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
> > which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
> > Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good
> > Pleasure of Allâh. That is the supreme success.
> >
> > -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
> >
> >
> > *************************************************************************
> >***********
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > ajug-members@...
> > http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members

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[Rajesha.Indurthivenkata]

Absolutely makes sense to me..I would prefer not to see any religious signature in a technical group like AJUG, because I dont want to spenf time reading religious signatures.
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Paul Milazzo <pjmilazzo@...>

07/03/2009 11:18 AM

Please respond to
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To	ajug-members@...
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Subject	Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information

Amen to that...

Oops!

--- On Thu, 7/2/09, Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic@...> wrote:

From: Ryan Ovrevik <rlopublic@...>
Subject: Re: [ajug-members] Do not email AJUG list your resumes and personal information
To: ajug-members@...
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2009, 10:19 PM

I don't think Chinmay made "a big deal out of such a trivial issue". I
think that it was non-confrontational and courteous.

Personally, I would prefer to not see religious signatures on this (or
any) list.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Quadir Kareemullah<quadir@...> wrote:

> Chinmay,
>
> Yes, I do have verses from the Qur'an (Muslims Holy Book) as my email
> signature but I never have nor do I intend to post religious content to the
> mailing list. I do understand the spirit and purpose of AJUG and I have
> always acted accordingly. There is no reason for you to make a big deal out
> of such a trivial issue.
>
> Lets end this email at that and spare the members the spam. If you or anyone
> want to discuss this further, please email me personally at q u a d i r d o
> t g m a i l d o t c o m.
>
> - Quadir
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Chinmay Nagarkar
> <chinmay.nagarkar@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have seen few people putting religious content into their email
>> signature. Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are
>> technical lists and not religious lists. Of course, in the First Amendment
>> allows us free speech; just want to make sure no offense is caused.
>>
>> -Chinmay
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:18 AM, Quadir Kareemullah <quadir@...>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I have seen few people sending their resumes and other communication to
>>> AJUG list instead of replying to the person who posted the job. Please CHECK
>>> your Reply list before sending out the email.
>>>
>>> Please note that AJUG jobs and AJUG members Mailing Lists are public on
>>> the Internet at http://www.ajug.org/confluence/display/AJUG/MailingLists so
>>> I advise against including personal information in your emails sent to these
>>> lists.
>>>
>>> - Quadir
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> 9.71 # The believers, men and women, are Auliyâ' (helpers, supporters,
>>> friends, protectors) of one another, they enjoin (on the people) Al-Ma'rûf
>>> (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism and all that Islâm orders one to do), and forbid
>>> (people) from Al-Munkar (i.e. polytheism and disbelief of all kinds, and all
>>> that Islâm has forbidden); they perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give
>>> the Zakât, and obey Allâh and His Messenger. Allâh will have His Mercy on
>>> them. Surely Allâh is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
>>> 9.72 Allâh has promised to the believers -men and women, - Gardens under
>>> which rivers flow to dwell therein forever, and beautiful mansions in
>>> Gardens of 'Adn (Eden Paradise). But the greatest bliss is the Good Pleasure
>>> of Allâh. That is the supreme success.
>>>
>>> -- Qur'an Chapter 3 Verses 185-186
>>>
>>>
>>> ************************************************************************************
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ajug-members mailing list
>>> ajug-members@...
>>> http://www.ajug.org/mailman/listinfo/ajug-members
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> ************************************************************************************
> Bismillahirahmanirraheem
> (In the name of ALLAH, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful)
>
> 1. I swear by the Day of Resurrection;
> 2.And I swear by the self-reproaching person (a believer).
> 3. Does man (a disbeliever) think that We shall not assemble his bones?
> 4. Yes, We are Able to put together in perfect order the tips of his
> fingers.
> 5. Nay! (Man denies Resurrection and Reckoning. So) he desires to continue
> committing sins.
> 6. He asks: "When will be this Day of Resurrection?"
> 7. So, when the sight shall be dazed,
> 8. And the moon will be eclipsed,
> 9. And the sun and moon will be joined together (by going one into the other
> or folded up or deprived of their light, etc.)
> 10. On that Day man will say: "Where (is the refuge) to flee?"
> 11. No! There is no refuge!
> 12. Unto your Lord (Alone) will be the place of rest that Day.
> 13. On that Day man will be informed of what he sent forward (of his evil or
> good deeds), and what he left behind (of his good or evil traditions).
> 14. Nay! Man will be a witness against himself [as his body parts (skin,
> hands, legs, etc.) will speak about his deeds].
> 15. Though he may put forth his excuses (to cover his evil deeds).
>
> THE NOBLE QUR'AN (Chapter 75 Verses 1-15):
>
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