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	<title>Nabble - DocBook</title>
	<updated>2009-11-12T20:13:02Z</updated>
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	<subtitle type="html">&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.org/help&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DocBook&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;is a schema (available in several languages including RELAX NG, SGML and XML DTDs, and W3C XML Schema) maintained by the DocBook Technical Committee of OASIS. It is particularly well suited to books and papers about computer hardware and software (though it is by no means limited to these applications).</subtitle>
	
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26331183</id>
	<title>DTD version and XSL Stylesheet version.</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T20:13:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T20:13:02Z</updated>
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		<name>Jingjun Long</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello there,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am trying to use DocBook DTD and Stylesheet in one of my project. I
&lt;br&gt;downloaded the DTD and DocBook XSL stylesheets. I am trying to find
&lt;br&gt;out which version of DTD that current version of Stylesheet work with.
&lt;br&gt;I looked at the files in the downloaded files and searched the mail
&lt;br&gt;archive, but I did not find the information. Would any one where to
&lt;br&gt;find the information?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry for asking this question.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks
&lt;br&gt;Jingjun
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	<title>Re: Whichi is better for publishing book on DocBook 4.5 or  5</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T19:39:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T19:39:03Z</updated>
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		<name>Brijesh Kumar-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;div&gt;Hello,&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;Just sharing our experience.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;We have been successfully using processing XHTML transformed to DocBook v5.0 and through a well defined XML Pipe to the digital book formats, such as ePub and Amazon/ Mobipocket&amp;#39;s Kindle format AZW. We have used DocBook 5.0 for all kinds of books - fictions, non-fictions, textbooks, books that would be transformed to accessibility formats such as NIMAS and DAISY, and we are confidant that version 5.0 of DocBook is fully capable of delivering what is required for multi-format transformation and publishing.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;.................................&lt;br&gt;Brijesh Kumar&lt;br&gt;Founder &amp;amp; CEO&lt;br&gt;Digital Media Initiatives&lt;br&gt;#104, F-2, First Floor&lt;br&gt;13th Main, 4th Cross, 5th Sector&lt;br&gt;H.S.R. Layout, Koramangala&lt;br&gt;Bangalore - 560 102 India&lt;br&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.DigitalMediaInitiatives.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.DigitalMediaInitiatives.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ePubNow.com&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.ePubNow.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;+91 95-5724-8880&lt;br&gt;+91 98-3706-0034&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Akihiro Moriguchi &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26330821&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vekr76479@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;
&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;&quot;&gt;Hello,&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Currently I&amp;#39;ve start translating technical book into japanese using DocBook. But unfortunately, I&amp;#39;m not sure which version of DocBook which&lt;br&gt;
is 4.5 or 5 suitable for doing that because of lack of my experience.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
I&amp;#39;m now concentrating on translation from English from Japanese.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Please tell me latest pros and cons about each version.&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Best regards,&lt;br&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26328326</id>
	<title>Re: [docbook] Add the book name to the title</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T15:15:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T15:15:44Z</updated>
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		<name>Jon W-2</name>
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	<content type="html">Thanks Bob!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For those people interested, here is the code I used to get the name
&lt;br&gt;of the document and prepend it to the &amp;lt;title&amp;gt; information:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;my.title.parameter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:call-template name=&amp;quot;get.doc.title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:template name=&amp;quot;head.content&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;node&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;title&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;$my.title.parameter&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:text&amp;gt;: &amp;lt;/xsl:text&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:apply-templates select=&amp;quot;$node&amp;quot; mode=&amp;quot;object.title.markup.textonly&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/xsl:param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;More information is located at:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceware.org/ml/docbook-apps/2003-q1/msg00061.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceware.org/ml/docbook-apps/2003-q1/msg00061.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;Jon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Bob Stayton &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26328326&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bobs@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; [moving this over to the docbook-apps mailing list where stylesheet issues
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; are discussed.]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi Jon,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; As you discovered, variable references in gentext are not processed.  There
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; is a template named 'substitute.markup' in common/gentext.xsl that handles
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; replacing the % placeholders with generated text.  You would need to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; customize that template to resolve variable references.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I would caution about adding the book title in the 'title-numbered' context,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; as that gentext may be used in other places besides the HTML head title.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Instead, I would focus on the template where that HTML title element is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; generated.  That template is named 'head.content' and it is in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; html/docbook.xsl.  You could customize that template to add the book title.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; A variable reference could be used there.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bob Stayton
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [docbook] Add the book name to the title
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi.  Currently in the &amp;lt;title&amp;gt; section of our html, we list the number
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; %n and title %t.  We would like to pre-pend the name of the book to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the &amp;lt;title&amp;gt; information, so the google search results contain the name
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of the book in the link.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; For example, if the name of the book is &amp;quot;My Book&amp;quot;, the search would
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; look similar to:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  My Book: 4.6.1 Jack and Jill go home
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I know about using local.l10n.xml to process generated text, but
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; haven't found a way to use a variable in the &amp;lt;l:template&amp;gt; section.  I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; would like to set the local.l10n.xml settings in a common xsl file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that each of the 10 books can use the same xsl.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Is there a way for a variable called $mybookname to be used in the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; local.l10n.xml settings?  The following code does not expand the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; variable $mybookname:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;local.l10n.xml&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;document('')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;en&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;   &amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;     &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect1&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;$mybookname %n. %t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;   &amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Here is the example of our current html, for which I would like to add
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the book name:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;html&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;head&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;     &amp;lt;meta http-equiv=&amp;quot;Content-Type&amp;quot; content=&amp;quot;text/html;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; charset=ISO-8859-1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;     &amp;lt;title&amp;gt;4.6.1. Jack and Jill go home&amp;lt;/title&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thank you,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Jon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26327664</id>
	<title>A bibliographical mark-up question</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T14:27:06Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T14:27:06Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nic Gibson-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi all
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've been away from DocBook for well over a year now and I've been asked a question that has me slightly stumped. So, I'm going to have to ask the experts :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A client has a book that is being converted into XML using DocBook. The book includes a few entries in the bibliography of the form &amp;quot;ArticleName, in BookName&amp;quot;. What would be the best way to mark this up so that ArticleName and BookName are stored in separate elements but that the relationship is represented clearly?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;cheers
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;nic 
&lt;br&gt;--
&lt;br&gt;Nic Gibson
&lt;br&gt;Director, Corbas Consulting Ltd
&lt;br&gt;Editorial and Technical Consultancy and Training
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26323103</id>
	<title>Re: [docbook] Add the book name to the title</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T09:44:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T09:44:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob Stayton</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">[moving this over to the docbook-apps mailing list where stylesheet issues 
&lt;br&gt;are discussed.]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi Jon,
&lt;br&gt;As you discovered, variable references in gentext are not processed. &amp;nbsp;There 
&lt;br&gt;is a template named 'substitute.markup' in common/gentext.xsl that handles 
&lt;br&gt;replacing the % placeholders with generated text. &amp;nbsp;You would need to 
&lt;br&gt;customize that template to resolve variable references.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would caution about adding the book title in the 'title-numbered' context, 
&lt;br&gt;as that gentext may be used in other places besides the HTML head title. 
&lt;br&gt;Instead, I would focus on the template where that HTML title element is 
&lt;br&gt;generated. &amp;nbsp;That template is named 'head.content' and it is in 
&lt;br&gt;html/docbook.xsl. &amp;nbsp;You could customize that template to add the book title. 
&lt;br&gt;A variable reference could be used there.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Stayton
&lt;br&gt;Sagehill Enterprises
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&lt;br&gt;Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 9:28 AM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [docbook] Add the book name to the title
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi. &amp;nbsp;Currently in the &amp;lt;title&amp;gt; section of our html, we list the number
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; %n and title %t. &amp;nbsp;We would like to pre-pend the name of the book to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the &amp;lt;title&amp;gt; information, so the google search results contain the name
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of the book in the link.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; For example, if the name of the book is &amp;quot;My Book&amp;quot;, the search would
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; look similar to:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; My Book: 4.6.1 Jack and Jill go home
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I know about using local.l10n.xml to process generated text, but
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; haven't found a way to use a variable in the &amp;lt;l:template&amp;gt; section. &amp;nbsp;I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; would like to set the local.l10n.xml settings in a common xsl file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that each of the 10 books can use the same xsl.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is there a way for a variable called $mybookname to be used in the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; local.l10n.xml settings? &amp;nbsp;The following code does not expand the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; variable $mybookname:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;local.l10n.xml&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;document('')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;en&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect1&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;$mybookname %n. %t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here is the example of our current html, for which I would like to add
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the book name:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;html&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;head&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;meta http-equiv=&amp;quot;Content-Type&amp;quot; content=&amp;quot;text/html; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; charset=ISO-8859-1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;title&amp;gt;4.6.1. Jack and Jill go home&amp;lt;/title&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thank you,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Jon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26315264</id>
	<title>Re: space between chapter number and chapter text?</title>
	<published>2009-11-12T00:46:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-12T00:46:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Johannes Katelaan-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This is obviously a better way to do it. And there is no need to redefine the gentexts anymore.
&lt;br&gt;Works just fine.
&lt;br&gt;Thanks!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Johannes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am 11.11.2009 um 18:04 schrieb Bob Stayton:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If you want to position the title at a constant distance from the left margin, regardless of the width of the chapter number, then you can use an fo:list-block. &amp;nbsp;I called it 'side-by-side' formatting, and an example for section titles is described here:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/SideBySide.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/SideBySide.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The trick is to use mode=&amp;quot;label.markup&amp;quot; to generate just the chapter number and mode=&amp;quot;title.markup&amp;quot; to generate just the title, putting each in a separate part of the fo:list-item.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Bob Stayton
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sagehill Enterprises
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message ----- From: &amp;quot;Johannes Katelaan&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26315264&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jk@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:23 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] space between chapter number and chapter text?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; OK - I found a solution myself. I don't know if this is the best way to do it, but it works fine for me.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In case somebody is interested in my solution, here it is:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Change the customization layer for the chapter and section titles as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;de&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;chapter&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect1&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect2&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This adds a pipe character as a separator between the chapter or section number and the text.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Copy the template &amp;quot;component.title&amp;quot; to the customization layer stylesheet and modify the end of this template as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- not in a section: do nothing special --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;15mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Copy the template &amp;quot;section.heading&amp;quot; to the customization layer stylesheet and modify as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$level=1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:block xsl:use-attribute-sets=&amp;quot;section.title.level1.properties&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;11.5mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:block&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$level=2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:block xsl:use-attribute-sets=&amp;quot;section.title.level2.properties&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;10mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:block&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yes, the space between the number and the text is hard-coded and this will break, if the font sizes for chapter and section titles are changed.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; A better solution would be to position the title text relative to the left border of the page. But I don't know how to do this.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Johannes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Am 11.11.2009 um 10:16 schrieb Johannes Katelaan:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In my customization layer I changed the chapter titles as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;local.l10n.xml&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;document('')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;de&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;chapter&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n %t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I did this to get rid of the word &amp;quot;Kapitel&amp;quot; in the German chapter title. This work fine. So I get chapter titles in the form &amp;quot;number and text&amp;quot; now.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; My question: Is it possible to change the amount of space between the number and the text? I tried to insert additional space characters between the %n and the %t, but this had no effect at all.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; In my final layout I intend to have something like this:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title chapter one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1.1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level two
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; with all the texts starting at the same distance from the left border of the paper.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Is this possible?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Johannes
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26307682</id>
	<title>How to use a image blob into a docbook ?</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T12:07:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T12:07:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>giovanni b.</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi to all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;everybody knows, to insert an image to a docbook document have to use this example below
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;figure&amp;gt;&amp;lt;title&amp;gt;Notre Dame Cathedral&amp;lt;/title&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;graphic srccredit=&amp;quot;Norman Walsh, 1998&amp;quot; fileref=&amp;quot;figures/notredame.png&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/figure&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now 
&lt;br&gt;I want to insert an image to a docbook document but the image come from a blob field &amp;nbsp;and I want not to use a temp files.
&lt;br&gt;how to do ? 
&lt;br&gt;is possible to use a base64 encoded stream as input instead of the file?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks
&lt;br&gt;bye
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	<title>Re: compiling a book without the chapter level</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T11:29:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T11:29:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob Stayton</name>
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&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;Hi,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;You can avoid creating a TOC by setting the 
stylesheet parameter 'generate.toc' to empty.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;Regarding the structure, you could include a single 
article element in your book and leave its title element empty.&amp;nbsp; The 
article would produce the fo:page-sequence you need to avoid the 
errors.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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      &lt;TD vAlign=top&gt;Hi all, &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I need to compile a book-like document 
        without using the &amp;lt;chapter&amp;gt; levels. I use &amp;lt;bridgehead&amp;gt; tags 
        only to avoid creating a TOC. However, the compiler fails to produce a 
        PDF complaining on the missing fo:child elements (as expected).] 
        &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Is it possible to compile a &amp;lt;book&amp;gt; without using 
        &amp;lt;chapters&amp;gt;? &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Thanks in advance! 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26306005</id>
	<title>Image overflows</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T10:15:35Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T10:15:35Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Tobias Anstett [k15t.com]</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Recently I had a problem with image overflows using Apache as well as XEP.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I use both very wide and very high images in my documentation. When
&lt;br&gt;applying my customization layers they are always scaled to match the
&lt;br&gt;width of the page but I have problems if the image is still to high to
&lt;br&gt;match the available page space/size.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Using Apache images are just rendered on top of the page ignoring the
&lt;br&gt;page master setup (so above header, body, footer, starter ...) not
&lt;br&gt;fitting into the available area in the body.
&lt;br&gt;Using XEP there is just some information in the logs stating that XEP
&lt;br&gt;was not able to satisfy the constraints and (!!!) does not print the
&lt;br&gt;image at all.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I use &amp;lt;d:imagedata width=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot; contentdepth=&amp;quot;100%&amp;quot; .../&amp;gt; in docbook.
&lt;br&gt;Is there a way to enable some kind of auto-fit functionality? In a
&lt;br&gt;customization layer producing some kind of powerpoint slide layout I
&lt;br&gt;overwrote the graphic template to set the (maximum) height. Now,
&lt;br&gt;i) very wide but not that high images are scaled to fit the available width (OK)
&lt;br&gt;ii) very high but not very wide images are scaled to fit the available
&lt;br&gt;height (OK)
&lt;br&gt;iii) small images are upscaled to match height or respectively the
&lt;br&gt;width (NOT REALLY OK)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do somebody have a solution for point iii ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Tobias
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26305395</id>
	<title>Re: Customizing xref to a listitem</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T09:39:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T09:39:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob Stayton</name>
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&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;Hi,&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;I'm not understanding the context of this 
template.&amp;nbsp; I presume your input document has non-DocBook &amp;lt;jlistref&amp;gt; 
elements so the template matches on that element, right?&amp;nbsp; Then it generates 
DocBook &amp;lt;phrase&amp;gt; and &amp;lt;xref&amp;gt; elements.&amp;nbsp; Don't those appear in 
the FO and HTML outputs?&amp;nbsp;That's what I would expect&amp;nbsp;if 
this&amp;nbsp;template appears in a&amp;nbsp;DocBook XSL customization layer.&amp;nbsp;Are 
you somehow subsequently processing these generated DocBook elements with 
additional templates?&amp;nbsp; Perhaps you can describe a bit more of how you are 
using this template.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;In any case, there is an easier way to customize 
the text in cross references.&amp;nbsp; Have you tried customizing the gentext 
string used in the stylesheet?&amp;nbsp; That process is described 
here:&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;&lt;A href=&quot;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/CustomXrefs.html#XrefGentext&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/CustomXrefs.html#XrefGentext&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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&lt;DIV&gt;&lt;FONT face=Arial size=2&gt;You would customize the @text attribute inside 
&amp;lt;l:template name=&quot;listitem&quot;&amp;gt; in context &amp;lt;l:context 
name=&quot;xref&quot;&amp;gt;.&amp;nbsp; You would do this in your HTML customization layer and 
your PDF customization layer, using different text strings.&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
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        &lt;P&gt;Hi folks,&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;I am trying to customize references to listitems as follows:&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:template match=&quot;jlistref&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;phrase 
        status=&quot;print&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
        select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:attribute 
        name=&quot;linkend&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
        select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:value-of 
        select=&quot;@ref&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:attribute 
        name=&quot;xrefstyle&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:value-of 
        select=&quot;'template:Step&amp;amp;#160;%n on page 
        %p'&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/phrase&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;phrase 
        status=&quot;html&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
        select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:attribute 
        name=&quot;linkend&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
        select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:value-of 
        select=&quot;@ref&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:attribute 
        name=&quot;xrefstyle&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:value-of 
        select=&quot;'template:Step&amp;amp;#160;%n'&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/phrase&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;So that when I compile a PDF, an xref will look like as follows:&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;refer to Step &amp;lt;number&amp;gt; on page &amp;lt;number&amp;gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;In HTML, though, it must be just: Step &amp;lt;number&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;However, the template above does not affect anything. The reference 
        appears as default.&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;Please, advise!&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot in advance!&lt;/P&gt;
        &lt;P&gt;Nancy&lt;BR&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26305214</id>
	<title>Add the book name to the title</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T09:28:23Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T09:28:23Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jon W-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi. &amp;nbsp;Currently in the &amp;lt;title&amp;gt; section of our html, we list the number
&lt;br&gt;%n and title %t. &amp;nbsp;We would like to pre-pend the name of the book to
&lt;br&gt;the &amp;lt;title&amp;gt; information, so the google search results contain the name
&lt;br&gt;of the book in the link.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, if the name of the book is &amp;quot;My Book&amp;quot;, the search would
&lt;br&gt;look similar to:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;My Book: 4.6.1 Jack and Jill go home
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know about using local.l10n.xml to process generated text, but
&lt;br&gt;haven't found a way to use a variable in the &amp;lt;l:template&amp;gt; section. &amp;nbsp;I
&lt;br&gt;would like to set the local.l10n.xml settings in a common xsl file
&lt;br&gt;that each of the 10 books can use the same xsl.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is there a way for a variable called $mybookname to be used in the
&lt;br&gt;local.l10n.xml settings? &amp;nbsp;The following code does not expand the
&lt;br&gt;variable $mybookname:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;local.l10n.xml&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;document('')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;en&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect1&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;$mybookname %n. %t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here is the example of our current html, for which I would like to add
&lt;br&gt;the book name:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;html&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;head&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;meta http-equiv=&amp;quot;Content-Type&amp;quot; content=&amp;quot;text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;title&amp;gt;4.6.1. Jack and Jill go home&amp;lt;/title&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you,
&lt;br&gt;Jon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26304990</id>
	<title>RE: automated keywords and chunking</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T09:12:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T09:12:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>David Cramer (Tech Pubs)</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Thanks Tim, 
&lt;br&gt;That helps. In addition to chunk.section.depth, there are some other mechanisms for controlling chunking. One is a PI that lets you stop chunking at an arbitrary point and another is the param chunk.first.sections which lets you control whether the first child section is treated as a separate chunk. I also figure that &amp;lt;keyword&amp;gt;s should be included in the html keywords. Perhaps subjectset/subject should be included too? Anyway, I've added support for that stuff and pasted my version below.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The only other mechanism for controlling chunking that's not yet accounted for is the manual method described here &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Chunking.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/Chunking.html&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;(under &amp;quot;Manually control chunking&amp;quot;). I don't know much about that mechanism and don't know if it could be accounted for easily. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, this also doesn't yet support sect1-style sections, just recursive sections.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;David
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:template name=&amp;quot;keywordset&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- what is the current section level depth? --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;section_level&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:number value=&amp;quot;count(ancestor-or-self::section)&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- get the terms appropriate for this chunk --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;indexterms-and-keywords&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$section_level = $chunk.section.depth or ancestor-or-self::*/processing-instruction('dbhtml')[normalize-space(.) ='stop-chunking']&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;.//indexterm/primary&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;.//keywordset/keyword&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$chunk.first.sections = '0'&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;./*[not(self::section)]//indexterm/primary|./section[1]//indexterm/primary|./indexterm/primary&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;./*[not(self::section)]//keywordset/keyword|./section[1]//keywordset/keyword|./keywordset/keyword&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;./*[not(self::section)]//indexterm/primary|./indexterm/primary&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;./*[not(self::section)]//keywordset/keyword|./keywordset/keyword&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- get unique set of index terms --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;indexterms-and-keywords-unique&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:for-each select=&amp;quot;exslt:node-set($indexterms-and-keywords)/*[not(. = preceding-sibling::*)]&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;normalize-space(.)&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;xsl:if test=&amp;quot;not(position() = &amp;nbsp;last())&amp;quot;&amp;gt;, &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:for-each&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- if index terms are present, put them in the meta keywords tag --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:if test=&amp;quot;not($indexterms-and-keywords-unique = '')&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;meta name=&amp;quot;keywords&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:attribute name=&amp;quot;content&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;$indexterms-and-keywords-unique&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/meta&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Tim Arnold [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304990&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tim.Arnold@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 1:29 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To: DocBook Apps
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] automated keywords and chunking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Bob,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yes that footnote processing code is pretty complex. I took a 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; stab at this first, basing my ideas on the code David sent 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; earlier. It works for my toy examples, but maybe it's naïve 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; or only works for my situation. To repeat the original problem: 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'd like to automatically create keywords for each output 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; file that consist of the primary index terms in that file. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:template name=&amp;quot;user.head.content&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:call-template name=&amp;quot;keywordset&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!-- include indexterms as keywords in the current chunk only
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; unless this is the lowest chunking level in which case,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; include *all* indexterm children
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:template name=&amp;quot;keywordset&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- what is the current section level depth? --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;section_level&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:number value=&amp;quot;count(ancestor-or-self::d:section)&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- get the terms appropriate for this chunk --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;indexterms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$section_level = $chunk.section.depth&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;.//d:indexterm/d:primary&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; select=&amp;quot;./*[not(self::d:section)]//d:indexterm/d:primary|./d:i
&lt;/div&gt;ndexterm/d:primary&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- get unique set of index terms --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;indexterms-unique&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:for-each select=&amp;quot;exslt:node-set($indexterms)/*[not(. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; = preceding-sibling::*)]&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;normalize-space(.)&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;xsl:if 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; test=&amp;quot;not(position() = &amp;nbsp;last())&amp;quot;&amp;gt;, &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:for-each&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- if index terms are present, put them in the meta 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; keywords tag --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:if test=&amp;quot;not($indexterms-unique = '')&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;meta name=&amp;quot;keywords&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:attribute name=&amp;quot;content&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;$indexterms-unique&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/meta&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; From: Bob Stayton [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304990&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bobs@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:04 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; To: Tim Arnold; DocBook Apps
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] automated keywords and chunking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Actually, David is correct, and it is more complicated than I 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; originally stated.. The context node when user.head.content 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; is called 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; is a chunked section element, but it also includes *all* of its 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; children, including the sections that will be in their own 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; chunks and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; should not be processed for the keywords for the current chunk.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; The chunking process works by recursive chunking. &amp;nbsp;That is, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; when the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; current section is chunked, it is processed until a child 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; section is 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; reached, at which point the processor will recursively start a new 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; chunk on that, and so on. &amp;nbsp;Only when the last nested section is 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; chunked is the original chunk finished off.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; This makes it very difficult to detect which indexterms are 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; contained 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; in the current chunk by just using XPath from the top of a 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; chunk element.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Footnote processing in chunked output has a similar problem, as the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; footnote list at the end of a chunk should only include 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; those footnote 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; elements within the current chunk text, not the child 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sections. &amp;nbsp;See 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; the template named 'process.chunk.footnotes' in 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; html/chunk-common.xsl 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; and follow where it goes to see how that works to exclude 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; footnotes from other chunks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Bob Stayton
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sagehill Enterprises
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; From: &amp;quot;Tim Arnold&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304990&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a_jtim@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; To: &amp;quot;DocBook Apps&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304990&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;docbook-apps@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:03 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Subject: [docbook-apps] Fwd: failure notice
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thanks you both for thinking about this. Sorry I 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; originally posted 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; to the wrong group--I'm still learning my way around. From the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; looks of the project in front of me, my copy of Bob's 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; book is going 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; to be dog- eared soon.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; I think David is right for my case--I'm chunking down to 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the third 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; section level and I only want the keywords that are 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; actually in the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; current html file. Otherwise I would be messing up the search 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; engines by advertising keywords that are not actually present in 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; the file. But on re-reading Bob's message, I see that that's 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; already taken care of since user.head.content is called 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with the node being chunked.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'm pretty sure my head will hurt before it's over, but 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'll play 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; around with it and step though the code; it looks very close to 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; what I'll need to do. Thanks for the inspiration!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; --Tim Arnold
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Sep 23, 2009, at 1:39 PM, David Cramer wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Tim &amp;nbsp;may have to worry about chunking and the chunking 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; settings, 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; depending on his situation. Say you chunk everything. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If you have 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; a chapter with several subsections, then the first 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; chunk contains 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the chapter's toc and any content before the first section. You 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; probably don't want that chunk's html page to have all of the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; indexterms in &amp;nbsp;the all of the child sections. Or if you stop 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; chunking at a certain &amp;nbsp;depth, you DO want the section 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; at which you 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; stop chunking to contain &amp;nbsp;keywords for the indexterms 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; of all its 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; child sections. If he uses &amp;lt;?bjhtml stop-chunking?&amp;gt; to stop 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; chunking at arbitrary places, then that would have to 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be addressed too.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I wanted to do something similar to what Tim is asking 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for, but &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; didn't go to the trouble of addressing all those 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; because it made 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; my head hurt.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; If I recall correctly, the following tries to assemble a 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; keywordset unless there already is a keywordset and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; gets all the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; indexterms in the chapter or section but not get any from any 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; child sections. It also removes duplicate index entries.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Anyway, perhaps the following can be a starting point 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; or source of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; inspiration.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; David
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:template name=&amp;quot;user.head.content&amp;quot;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:call-template 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; name=&amp;quot;keywordset&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:template name=&amp;quot;keywordset&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:if test=&amp;quot;not(self::book) and not(self::part) and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; not(./*/keywordset) and 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (./*[not(starts-with(local-name(.),'sect'))
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; not(self::chapter)]//indexterm or ./indexterm)&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;indexterms&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;!-- Get all the indexterms in this section/chapter 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; only (i.e. not 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in child sections --&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; select=&amp;quot;./*[not(self::section)]//indexterm/*|./indexterm/*&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;indexterms-unique&amp;quot;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:for-each 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; select=&amp;quot;exslt:node-set($indexterms)/*[not(. = 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; preceding- sibling::*)]&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;normalize-space(.)&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;xsl:if
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; test=&amp;quot;not(position() = &amp;nbsp;last())&amp;quot;&amp;gt;, &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/xsl:for-each&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:variable&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:if test=&amp;quot;not($indexterms-unique = '')&amp;quot;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;meta 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; name=&amp;quot;keywords&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:attribute name=&amp;quot;content&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;$indexterms-unique&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/meta&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; From: Bob Stayton [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304990&amp;i=5&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bobs@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:11 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To: DocBook Apps; Tim Arnold
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [docbook-apps] Re: [docbook] automated keywords and &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; chunking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; [moving this over to docbook-apps mailing list where 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; stylesheet 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; issues are discussed]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; By keywords I presume you mean generating &amp;lt;meta 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; name=&amp;quot;keywords&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in the HEAD element of each chunks? &amp;nbsp;If so, then you 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; don't have 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to mess with the chunking machinery, you can use the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; placeholder 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; template named 'user.head.content'
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; that is available for inserting custom content. &amp;nbsp;See:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/HtmlHead.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/HtmlHead.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; That template is called with the node being chunked as the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; context node, so you should be able to select 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; descendant::indexterm/primary elements and process 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; them into the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; value of the meta element.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bob Stayton
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sagehill Enterprises
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304990&amp;i=6&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bobs@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; From: &amp;quot;Tim Arnold&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304990&amp;i=7&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a_jtim@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 4:35 PM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [docbook] automated keywords and chunking
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'm using DocBook 5 and the html chunking 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; stylesheets. I'd like 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to automatically create keywords for each output file that
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; consist of the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; primary index terms in that file. &amp;nbsp;I can manage that in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; postprocessing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; using Python and lxml, but I wanted to ask here to see if
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; this has &amp;nbsp;been
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; done before. It seems like something people might like to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; do, but &amp;nbsp;after
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; looking at the chunking code and reading about it, it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sounds &amp;nbsp;like it
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; might be pretty complicated to implement.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Any ideas on this?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; --Tim Arnold
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
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	<title>Re: space between chapter number and chapter text?</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T09:04:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T09:04:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob Stayton</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;If you want to position the title at a constant distance from the left 
&lt;br&gt;margin, regardless of the width of the chapter number, then you can use an 
&lt;br&gt;fo:list-block. &amp;nbsp;I called it 'side-by-side' formatting, and an example for 
&lt;br&gt;section titles is described here:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/SideBySide.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/SideBySide.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The trick is to use mode=&amp;quot;label.markup&amp;quot; to generate just the chapter number 
&lt;br&gt;and mode=&amp;quot;title.markup&amp;quot; to generate just the title, putting each in a 
&lt;br&gt;separate part of the fo:list-item.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Stayton
&lt;br&gt;Sagehill Enterprises
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----- Original Message ----- 
&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Johannes Katelaan&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26304852&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;jk@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 6:23 AM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] space between chapter number and chapter text?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;OK - I found a solution myself. I don't know if this is the best way to do 
&lt;br&gt;it, but it works fine for me.
&lt;br&gt;In case somebody is interested in my solution, here it is:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Change the customization layer for the chapter and section titles as 
&lt;br&gt;follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;de&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;chapter&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect1&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect2&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This adds a pipe character as a separator between the chapter or section 
&lt;br&gt;number and the text.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Copy the template &amp;quot;component.title&amp;quot; to the customization layer stylesheet 
&lt;br&gt;and modify the end of this template as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- not in a section: do nothing special --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;15mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Copy the template &amp;quot;section.heading&amp;quot; to the customization layer stylesheet 
&lt;br&gt;and modify as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$level=1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:block 
&lt;br&gt;xsl:use-attribute-sets=&amp;quot;section.title.level1.properties&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
&lt;br&gt;select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;11.5mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
&lt;br&gt;select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:block&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$level=2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:block 
&lt;br&gt;xsl:use-attribute-sets=&amp;quot;section.title.level2.properties&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
&lt;br&gt;select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;10mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of 
&lt;br&gt;select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:block&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, the space between the number and the text is hard-coded and this will 
&lt;br&gt;break, if the font sizes for chapter and section titles are changed.
&lt;br&gt;A better solution would be to position the title text relative to the left 
&lt;br&gt;border of the page. But I don't know how to do this.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Johannes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am 11.11.2009 um 10:16 schrieb Johannes Katelaan:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In my customization layer I changed the chapter titles as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;local.l10n.xml&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;document('')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;de&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;chapter&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n %t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I did this to get rid of the word &amp;quot;Kapitel&amp;quot; in the German chapter title. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This work fine. So I get chapter titles in the form &amp;quot;number and text&amp;quot; now.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My question: Is it possible to change the amount of space between the 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; number and the text? I tried to insert additional space characters between 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the %n and the %t, but this had no effect at all.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In my final layout I intend to have something like this:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title chapter one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level two
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with all the texts starting at the same distance from the left border of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the paper.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is this possible?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Johannes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26304828</id>
	<title>compiling a book without the chapter level</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T09:03:24Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T09:03:24Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>nancy_b</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td valign=&quot;top&quot; style=&quot;font: inherit;&quot;&gt;Hi all, &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;I need to compile a book-like document without using the &amp;lt;chapter&amp;gt; levels. I use &amp;lt;bridgehead&amp;gt; tags only to avoid creating a TOC. However, the compiler fails to produce a PDF complaining on the missing fo:child elements (as expected).] &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Is it possible to compile a &amp;lt;book&amp;gt; without using &amp;lt;chapters&amp;gt;? &lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;Thanks in advance! &lt;BR&gt;Nancy&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26303329</id>
	<title>Customizing xref to a listitem</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T07:33:23Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T07:33:23Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>nancy_b</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td valign=&quot;top&quot; style=&quot;font: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi folks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am trying to customize references to listitems as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:template match=&quot;jlistref&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;  &amp;lt;phrase status=&quot;print&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;    &amp;lt;xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;xsl:attribute name=&quot;linkend&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;        &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;        &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&quot;@ref&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;xsl:attribute name=&quot;xrefstyle&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;        &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&quot;'template:Step&amp;amp;#160;%n on page %p'&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;    &amp;lt;/xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;  &amp;lt;/phrase&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;  &lt;BR&gt;  &amp;lt;phrase status=&quot;html&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;    &amp;lt;xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;xsl:attribute name=&quot;linkend&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;        &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&quot;@*&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;        &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&quot;@ref&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;     
 &amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;xsl:attribute name=&quot;xrefstyle&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;        &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&quot;'template:Step&amp;amp;#160;%n'&quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;      &amp;lt;/xsl:attribute&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;    &amp;lt;/xref&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;  &amp;lt;/phrase&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So that when I compile a PDF, an xref will look like as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;refer to Step &amp;lt;number&amp;gt; on page &amp;lt;number&amp;gt;.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In HTML, though, it must be just: Step &amp;lt;number&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;However, the template above does not affect anything. The reference appears as default.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please, advise!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot in advance!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nancy&lt;BR&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26302211</id>
	<title>Re: Whichi is better for publishing book on DocBook 4.5 or 5</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T06:31:48Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T06:31:48Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Akihiro Moriguchi-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello Hamilton-san,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks for your reply.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'll do with DocBook V5.0 because my editor XMLmind XML Editor
&lt;br&gt;works well with V5.0.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best regards,
&lt;br&gt;Akihiro
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dick Hamilton wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Moriguchi-san,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Both will probably do what you need, and you can convert
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; from one to the other without much trouble.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; However, I would recommend that you use DocBook V5.0, unless
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; you are using an editor or other tool that cannot handle it.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DocBook V5.0 is more flexible, simpler, easier to customize,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and the standard DocBook stylesheets work with it very well.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The 2 reasons I can think of for not using DocBook V5.0 would
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be if you already have content in DocBook 4.5 (and are happy
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with your current tools), or if you do not have access to an
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; editor that will work with DocBook V5.0.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Best Regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Dick Hamilton 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ---------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; XML Press
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; XML for Technical Communicators
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://xmlpress.net&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://xmlpress.net&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (970) 231-3624 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; From: Akihiro Moriguchi [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26302211&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vekr76479@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:12 AM
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26302211&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;docbook@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [docbook] Whichi is better for publishing book on 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DocBook 4.5 or 5
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Currently I've start translating technical book into japanese using 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DocBook. But unfortunately, I'm not sure which version of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; DocBook which
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; is 4.5 or 5 suitable for doing that because of lack of my experience.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I'm now concentrating on translation from English from Japanese.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Please tell me latest pros and cons about each version.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Best regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Akihiro Moriguchi
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26302056</id>
	<title>Re: space between chapter number and chapter text?</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T06:23:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T06:23:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Johannes Katelaan-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">OK - I found a solution myself. I don't know if this is the best way to do it, but it works fine for me.
&lt;br&gt;In case somebody is interested in my solution, here it is:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Change the customization layer for the chapter and section titles as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;de&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;chapter&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect1&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;sect2&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n|%t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This adds a pipe character as a separator between the chapter or section number and the text.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Copy the template &amp;quot;component.title&amp;quot; to the customization layer stylesheet and modify the end of this template as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- not in a section: do nothing special --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;15mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Copy the template &amp;quot;section.heading&amp;quot; to the customization layer stylesheet and modify as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$level=1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-before($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;11.5mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$level=2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:block xsl:use-attribute-sets=&amp;quot;section.title.level2.properties&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- original code: --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$title&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- modified code: --&amp;gt;
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;fo:inline space-start=&amp;quot;10mm&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;substring-after($title,'|')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:inline&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/fo:block&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, the space between the number and the text is hard-coded and this will break, if the font sizes for chapter and section titles are changed.
&lt;br&gt;A better solution would be to position the title text relative to the left border of the page. But I don't know how to do this.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Johannes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Am 11.11.2009 um 10:16 schrieb Johannes Katelaan:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In my customization layer I changed the chapter titles as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;local.l10n.xml&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;document('')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;de&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;chapter&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n %t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I did this to get rid of the word &amp;quot;Kapitel&amp;quot; in the German chapter title. This work fine. So I get chapter titles in the form &amp;quot;number and text&amp;quot; now.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; My question: Is it possible to change the amount of space between the number and the text? I tried to insert additional space characters between the %n and the %t, but this had no effect at all.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; In my final layout I intend to have something like this:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title chapter one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level one
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 1.1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level two
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; with all the texts starting at the same distance from the left border of the paper.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is this possible?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Johannes
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
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	<title>space between chapter number and chapter text?</title>
	<published>2009-11-11T01:16:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-11T01:16:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Johannes Katelaan-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my customization layer I changed the chapter titles as follows:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;local.l10n.xml&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;document('')&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:i18n xmlns:l=&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docbook.sourceforge.net/xmlns/l10n/1.0&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:l10n language=&amp;quot;de&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:context name=&amp;quot;title-numbered&amp;quot;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;l:template name=&amp;quot;chapter&amp;quot; text=&amp;quot;%n %t&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:context&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:l10n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;/l:i18n&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I did this to get rid of the word &amp;quot;Kapitel&amp;quot; in the German chapter title. This work fine. So I get chapter titles in the form &amp;quot;number and text&amp;quot; now.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My question: Is it possible to change the amount of space between the number and the text? I tried to insert additional space characters between the %n and the %t, but this had no effect at all.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my final layout I intend to have something like this:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title chapter one
&lt;br&gt;1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level one
&lt;br&gt;1.1.1 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; title section level two
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;with all the texts starting at the same distance from the left border of the paper.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is this possible?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Johannes
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	<title>RE: Whichi is better for publishing book on DocBook 4.5 or 5</title>
	<published>2009-11-09T11:48:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-09T11:48:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Richard Hamilton-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Moriguchi-san,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Both will probably do what you need, and you can convert
&lt;br&gt;from one to the other without much trouble.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, I would recommend that you use DocBook V5.0, unless
&lt;br&gt;you are using an editor or other tool that cannot handle it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DocBook V5.0 is more flexible, simpler, easier to customize,
&lt;br&gt;and the standard DocBook stylesheets work with it very well.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The 2 reasons I can think of for not using DocBook V5.0 would
&lt;br&gt;be if you already have content in DocBook 4.5 (and are happy
&lt;br&gt;with your current tools), or if you do not have access to an
&lt;br&gt;editor that will work with DocBook V5.0.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best Regards,
&lt;br&gt;Dick Hamilton 
&lt;br&gt;---------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;XML Press
&lt;br&gt;XML for Technical Communicators
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&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Akihiro Moriguchi [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26272553&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vekr76479@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [docbook] Whichi is better for publishing book on 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DocBook 4.5 or 5
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Currently I've start translating technical book into japanese using 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DocBook. But unfortunately, I'm not sure which version of 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; DocBook which
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; is 4.5 or 5 suitable for doing that because of lack of my experience.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm now concentrating on translation from English from Japanese.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please tell me latest pros and cons about each version.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Best regards,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Akihiro Moriguchi
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26267997</id>
	<title>Whichi is better for publishing book on DocBook 4.5 or 5</title>
	<published>2009-11-09T07:11:36Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-09T07:11:36Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Akihiro Moriguchi-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Currently I've start translating technical book into japanese using 
&lt;br&gt;DocBook. But unfortunately, I'm not sure which version of DocBook which
&lt;br&gt;is 4.5 or 5 suitable for doing that because of lack of my experience.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm now concentrating on translation from English from Japanese.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please tell me latest pros and cons about each version.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best regards,
&lt;br&gt;Akihiro Moriguchi
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26238809</id>
	<title>Re: Re: About imageobjectco, callout and title placement</title>
	<published>2009-11-06T13:21:25Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-06T13:21:25Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas Schraitle</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Jacques,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Friday 06 November 2009
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On 6 nov. 2009, at 17:16, Jacques Foucry wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'm sorry !
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; How can I change the title placement in this case ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; After re-re-reading the source, I've misplaced the &amp;lt;/figure&amp;gt;, after
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the &amp;lt;/calloulist&amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just to note: Norm wrote a very interesting article about image callouts. Find 
&lt;br&gt;it here:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://norman.walsh.name/2006/06/10/imageobjectco&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://norman.walsh.name/2006/06/10/imageobjectco&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe it's useful for your adventure with callouts. :-)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tom
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	<title>Re: About imageobjectco, callout and title placement</title>
	<published>2009-11-06T12:39:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-06T12:39:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jacques Foucry</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On 6 nov. 2009, at 17:16, Jacques Foucry wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm sorry !
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; How can I change the title placement in this case ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;After re-re-reading the source, I've misplaced the &amp;lt;/figure&amp;gt;, after &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;the &amp;lt;/calloulist&amp;gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry !
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jacques
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	<title>RE: Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-06T09:02:37Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-06T09:02:37Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mauritz Jeanson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">| &amp;nbsp;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;From: Bob Stayton
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;Well, he isn't saying DocBook should be abandoned by 
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;everyone, just that it 
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;wasn't right for his single book published to HTML. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The book is not published to HTML only. It is also available in printed form
&lt;br&gt;(and as an ebook): 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430224150&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430224150&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mauritz
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	<title>About imageobjectco, callout and title placement</title>
	<published>2009-11-06T08:16:55Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-06T08:16:55Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jacques Foucry</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello every body,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Today I tried to use figure and imageobjectco in a different way as I &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;did before.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;figure&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;info&amp;gt;&amp;lt;title&amp;gt;This is a title&amp;lt;/title&amp;gt;&amp;lt;info&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;mediaobject&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;imageobjectco&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;areaspec&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;area coords=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; xml:id=&amp;quot;first&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;area coords=&amp;quot;&amp;quot; xml:id=&amp;quot;second&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/areaspec&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;imageobject&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;imagedata fileref=&amp;quot;path/to/the/image&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/imageobject&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/imageobject&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/mediaobject&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/figure&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;calloutlist&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;callout arearefs=&amp;quot;first&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;para&amp;gt;The first callout bug&amp;lt;/para&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/callout&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;callout arearefs=&amp;quot;seconde&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;para&amp;gt;The second callout bug&amp;lt;/para&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/callout&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;/calloutlist&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In my custom stylesheet I've put :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;formal.title.placement&amp;quot;&amp;gt;figure after&amp;lt;/xsl:param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As result of this little sample, the title of the figure is below the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;callout list, and I prefer have it juste after the image it self.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I use Docbook 5.0 with 1.75.2 ns stylesheet.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How can I change the title placement in this case ?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance,
&lt;br&gt;Jacques
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	<title>RE: Re: Table cell text overlapes with table border ...docbook 1.74.3</title>
	<published>2009-11-05T10:25:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-05T10:25:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>jrhooker</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Bela,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a pretty common problem when adding technical data to tables, since hyphenation tables/algorithims don't apply to non-standard things like long field names. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The way to handle it is to treat the contents of your table entries like they were URLs (which also bugger up hyphenation). The following template introduces soft hyphens between every letter of every table entry:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;xsl:template name=&amp;quot;hyphenate-tableentries&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;entry&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;''&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;$tableentry.hyphenate = ''&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;$entry&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:when test=&amp;quot;string-length($entry) &amp;gt; 1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:variable name=&amp;quot;char&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;substring($entry, 1, 1)&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;$char&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:if test=&amp;quot;contains($tableentry.hyphenate.chars, $char)&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- Do not hyphen in-between // --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:if test=&amp;quot;not($char = '/' and substring($entry,2,1) = '/')&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:copy-of select=&amp;quot;$tableentry.hyphenate&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:if&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;!-- recurse to the next character --&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:call-template name=&amp;quot;hyphenate-tableentries&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:with-param name=&amp;quot;entry&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;substring($entry, 2)&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:call-template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:when&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:value-of select=&amp;quot;$entry&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:otherwise&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:choose&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;tableentry.hyphenate.chars&amp;quot;&amp;gt;_.-/&amp;amp;&amp;lt;/xsl:param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:param name=&amp;quot;tableentry.hyphenate&amp;quot;&amp;gt;­&amp;lt;/xsl:param&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:template match=&amp;quot;entry//text()&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:call-template name=&amp;quot;hyphenate-tableentries&amp;quot;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;xsl:with-param name=&amp;quot;entry&amp;quot; select=&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:call-template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;lt;/xsl:template&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I forget who showed me this (someone on this list, I'm sure; think it might have actually been Bob Stayton), but I know I can't take credit for it. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;Jeff.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;From: Vincent Hennebert [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26219857&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vhennebert@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:54 AM
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26219857&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;docbook-apps@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] Re: Table cell text overlapes with table
&lt;br&gt;border ...docbook 1.74.3
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bela Patel wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Bela Patel &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26219857&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;belaramani@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Vincent,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I dont quite understand what you are suggesting.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I just want the text to automatically break in next line within the cell
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; depending on the cell size so that it does not overlap with Table border.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can you please explain this?
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have to insert those characters wherever you are happy for the text
&lt;br&gt;to break, possibly between every letter. The XSL-FO processor will then
&lt;br&gt;choose one of those places to break the text into two lines. For
&lt;br&gt;example:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ABCDEFGHIJK&amp;#x200B;LMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ&amp;#x200B;123456789&amp;#x200B;ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basically by inserting that character (or the soft hyphen), you’re
&lt;br&gt;giving the XSL-FO processor opportunities to break the text. The more of
&lt;br&gt;those there are, the less risk there is that the text is going to
&lt;br&gt;overlap the cell. Ideally you would somehow automate that process,
&lt;br&gt;inserting those characters by hand is obviously tedious.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HTH,
&lt;br&gt;Vincent
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; BRAMANI.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Vincent Hennebert &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26219857&amp;i=3&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vhennebert@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Since it’s not a regular word it can’t be hyphenated; you must specify
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; yourself the places where it is allowed to break. If you want a hyphen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; to be visible when the text is broken you can use the soft hyphen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; character (U+00AD). Otherwise you can use a zero-width space (U+200B).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; HTH,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Vincent
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Bela Patel wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Does anybody know how to resolve the following issue? How to make the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; text
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; string stay within the table cell so that it does not overlap with table
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; border?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Any help will be greatly appreciated.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; BRAMANI.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Bela Patel &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26219857&amp;i=4&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;belaramani@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I am using docbook version 1.74.3 for PDF report generation.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I have 50 chnaracter long text in a table cell but it overlapes with
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; table border.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; for example :
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 1. I have text &amp;quot;*ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ123456789ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO*&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; one table cell but it overlapes with the table border and goes outside
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; of
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; the table.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 2. But if I modify it as &amp;quot;*
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNO123456789*&amp;quot; then it does not
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; overlap with the border but after 26 character it breaks and goes to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; second
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; line within the same cell as shown below.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ-
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; ABCDEFGHIJKLMNO123456789
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; how can I make the text string shown in first option to stay within the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; same cell so that it does not overlap with the table border.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Thanks,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; BRAMANI.
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26188390</id>
	<title>Re: Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T15:15:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T15:15:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mike Maxwell-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:58:02 -0700, Scott Hudson
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26188390&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;scott.hudson@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Thank you for your response, Mike!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'd like to encourage you to check out the DocBook Publishers schema 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that we have created to address this very issue!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Please let me know if there is anything that you feel is still missing!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'll probably reply offline when I get a chance to look through it more,
&lt;br&gt;but a quick general question: If I want to include back in one of the
&lt;br&gt;excluded elements from appendix B.5 (like indexentry), is there a simple
&lt;br&gt;way to do that, other than copying the schema definition for that element
&lt;br&gt;out of the standard DocBook schema and pasting it into my local schema? 
&lt;br&gt;Maybe sort of a pseudo-Python statement:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;from index.rnc import indexentry
&lt;br&gt;Or similarly if I wanted to include an entire module:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;from index.rnc import *
&lt;br&gt;(but in XML of course :-))
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Mike Maxwell
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CASL/ U MD
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26188178</id>
	<title>Re: Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T14:58:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T14:58:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Scott Hudson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Thank you for your response, Mike!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'd like to encourage you to check out the DocBook Publishers schema 
&lt;br&gt;that we have created to address this very issue!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Specification Source:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/specs/publishers-1.0-spec-cd-01.xml&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/specs/publishers-1.0-spec-cd-01.xml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Specification PDF:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/specs/publishers-1.0-spec-cd-01.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/specs/publishers-1.0-spec-cd-01.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Specification HTML:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/specs/publishers-1.0-spec-cd-01.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/specs/publishers-1.0-spec-cd-01.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RelaxNG Schema:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/rng/publishers/publishers.rnc&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://docs.oasis-open.org/docbook/rng/publishers/publishers.rnc&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please let me know if there is anything that you feel is still missing!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best regards,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Scott Hudson
&lt;br&gt;Chair, DocBook Publishers subcommittee
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;maxwell wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'll take this opportunity to say that one of the things that seems odd to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; me about DocBook is that it is targeted so explicitly at computer
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; documentation. &amp;nbsp;Many of its tags make no sense outside that context. &amp;nbsp;So we
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; have modified the schema not just by adding elements for linguistics and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; literate programming, but by removing many of the tags that are blatantly
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; irrelevant. &amp;nbsp;Computer documentation is the sort of thing that will, in most
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cases, go out of date soon; and for that purpose, maybe Pilgrim is right
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; that HTML makes sense. &amp;nbsp;But there are plenty of domains for which people
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; write books that don't go out of date (ranging from poetry to archaeology),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and for which DocBook might make more sense to people if it didn't seem so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; much like a geek's view of the world. &amp;nbsp;My 2/100 of a dollar...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Mike Maxwell
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CASL/ U MD
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26187643</id>
	<title>RE: Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T14:17:51Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T14:17:51Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mike Maxwell-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Mauritz Jeanson wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mark Pilgrim abandoned DocBook in favour of HTML...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What are your thoughts about this? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We're sort of off in a little corner of our own, so our mileage probably
&lt;br&gt;differs from everyone else's. &amp;nbsp;But we find DocBook indispensable.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our corner is doing literate programming of grammars of natural languages. 
&lt;br&gt;This means embedding formal grammar fragments into a prose (descriptive)
&lt;br&gt;grammar; the fragments can be extracted and turned into a complete
&lt;br&gt;(morphological and phonological, not syntactic) grammar, which can in turn
&lt;br&gt;be converted into a morphological parser. &amp;nbsp;The prose grammar acts as the
&lt;br&gt;documentation of the formal grammar.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are several factors that make DocBook seem like the right way to go. 
&lt;br&gt;First, it's content markup, not formatting markup. &amp;nbsp;To be sure, we've had
&lt;br&gt;to add some content markup tags (for interlinear text, but also the
&lt;br&gt;literate programming tags--we used Norm Walsh's extensions). &amp;nbsp;But the use
&lt;br&gt;of content markup allows us to do things like extracting all the words in
&lt;br&gt;the target language (but not, for example, individual suffixes appearing in
&lt;br&gt;the text) to run them through the parser for purposes of verification. &amp;nbsp;We
&lt;br&gt;can also extend the DocBook XML to embed an entire lexicon for test
&lt;br&gt;purposes (the lexicon would of course have its own internal tags).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Second, the work we're doing (unlike Mark Pilgrim's Python book) is
&lt;br&gt;explicitly targeted at Forever. &amp;nbsp;Grammars never get superseded: there's an
&lt;br&gt;entire industry of documenting and describing endangered languages, and of
&lt;br&gt;course there are useful grammars of languages which have been extinct for
&lt;br&gt;thousands of years. &amp;nbsp;(Linguists never throw anything away :-).) &amp;nbsp;So the
&lt;br&gt;content markup tags of DocBook XML provide what I believe is a better way
&lt;br&gt;for documentation which will be interpretable for the long term (hundreds
&lt;br&gt;or maybe even thousands of years).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Third, some of the things we're doing are very messy to typeset. &amp;nbsp;Our last
&lt;br&gt;grammar was of Urdu, which uses an almost calligraphic version of the
&lt;br&gt;Arabic script called Nasta'liq. &amp;nbsp;Short of typesetting Mongolian vertically,
&lt;br&gt;I guess this is as far as you could get from ASCII. &amp;nbsp;I don't think it would
&lt;br&gt;render well in HTML. &amp;nbsp;To be honest, we didn't try to render it using the
&lt;br&gt;standard XSL-FO path either; we could only get what we wanted using XeTeX
&lt;br&gt;(a Unicode-aware version of LaTeX), for which our conversion process relies
&lt;br&gt;on an open source program called dblatex. &amp;nbsp;The result is output as a PDF.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Maybe there is a way to do the above in HTML, but when we were figuring out
&lt;br&gt;how to do it, we didn't run across such a method.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'll take this opportunity to say that one of the things that seems odd to
&lt;br&gt;me about DocBook is that it is targeted so explicitly at computer
&lt;br&gt;documentation. &amp;nbsp;Many of its tags make no sense outside that context. &amp;nbsp;So we
&lt;br&gt;have modified the schema not just by adding elements for linguistics and
&lt;br&gt;literate programming, but by removing many of the tags that are blatantly
&lt;br&gt;irrelevant. &amp;nbsp;Computer documentation is the sort of thing that will, in most
&lt;br&gt;cases, go out of date soon; and for that purpose, maybe Pilgrim is right
&lt;br&gt;that HTML makes sense. &amp;nbsp;But there are plenty of domains for which people
&lt;br&gt;write books that don't go out of date (ranging from poetry to archaeology),
&lt;br&gt;and for which DocBook might make more sense to people if it didn't seem so
&lt;br&gt;much like a geek's view of the world. &amp;nbsp;My 2/100 of a dollar...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Mike Maxwell
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;CASL/ U MD
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26186167</id>
	<title>Re: Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T12:34:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T12:34:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bob Stayton</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Well, he isn't saying DocBook should be abandoned by everyone, just that it 
&lt;br&gt;wasn't right for his single book published to HTML. He uses few of DocBook's 
&lt;br&gt;strengths but experiences all of its overhead. &amp;nbsp;Not a particularly good fit. 
&lt;br&gt;I'll bet he learned a lot in the process, though. &amp;nbsp;8^)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bob Stayton
&lt;br&gt;Sagehill Enterprises
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&lt;br&gt;From: &amp;quot;Mauritz Jeanson&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26186167&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mj@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26186167&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;docbook@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 10:12 AM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [docbook] Why use DocBook when there is HTML?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mark Pilgrim abandoned DocBook in favour of HTML for &amp;quot;Dive Into Python 3&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; See
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-2009-edition/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-2009-edition/&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The author used DocBook for the previous edition of his successful book. 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; But
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; now he says that he has no use for DocBook anymore.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What are your thoughts about this?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mauritz
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26185965</id>
	<title>RE: Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T12:21:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T12:21:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Barton Wright</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Perhaps Mr. Pilgrim never quite got the hang of separating semantic content from layout. And if he abandoned DocBook, he also abandoned the ability to generate book-like PDFs. It is clear from his blog posting that he thinks those are obsolete now.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All I know is that after several years of professional immersion in DocBook, I find going back to editing raw HTML not just painful, it is excruciating.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for his assertion that no one in professional technical publishing uses either DocBook or HTML, he might want to look at the approved formats for submitting manuscripts at O'Reilly:
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: Mauritz Jeanson [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26185965&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mj@...&lt;/a&gt;] 
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&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Subject: [docbook] Why use DocBook when there is HTML?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mark Pilgrim abandoned DocBook in favour of HTML for &amp;quot;Dive 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Into Python 3&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; See
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 2009-edition/.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The author used DocBook for the previous edition of his 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; successful book. But
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; now he says that he has no use for DocBook anymore.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What are your thoughts about this? 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mauritz
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	<title>Re: Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T11:13:42Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T11:13:42Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Jirka Kosek</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Mauritz Jeanson wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Mark Pilgrim abandoned DocBook in favour of HTML for &amp;quot;Dive Into Python 3&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; See
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-2009-edition/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-2009-edition/&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The author used DocBook for the previous edition of his successful book. But
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; now he says that he has no use for DocBook anymore.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What are your thoughts about this? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark mentions some missing features directly in article. But as he needs
&lt;br&gt;only HTML output for his own purposes and typesetting is not performed
&lt;br&gt;from XML sources it might make sense.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Personally, I can't imagine writing book in anything else then in
&lt;br&gt;DocBook. Especially when XSL-FO implementations are mature enough to
&lt;br&gt;prepare PDFs which can go directly to print shop. E.g.:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kosek.cz/knihy/phpxml/php5xml-ukazka.pdf&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.kosek.cz/knihy/phpxml/php5xml-ukazka.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The key features of DocBook for writing book for me are
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- ability to modularize content: each chapter is in separate file, each
&lt;br&gt;source code is in separate file and everything is assembled dynamically
&lt;br&gt;using XIncludes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- all objects are automatically numbered, ToC/index are automatically
&lt;br&gt;genereated, xrefs are automatically updated, ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- I'm completely shielded from final formatting, this is handled by
&lt;br&gt;stylesheet
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- I can turn book into another output format if necessary
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26184021</id>
	<title>Why use DocBook when there is HTML?</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T10:12:51Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T10:12:51Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mauritz Jeanson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Mark Pilgrim abandoned DocBook in favour of HTML for &amp;quot;Dive Into Python 3&amp;quot;.
&lt;br&gt;See
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-2009-edition/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://diveintomark.org/archives/2009/03/27/dive-into-history-2009-edition/&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The author used DocBook for the previous edition of his successful book. But
&lt;br&gt;now he says that he has no use for DocBook anymore.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What are your thoughts about this? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mauritz
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26183757</id>
	<title>RE: The LATEX \renewcommand function counterpart in Docbook XSL</title>
	<published>2009-11-03T09:54:53Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-03T09:54:53Z</updated>
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		<name>Mauritz Jeanson</name>
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	<content type="html">| &amp;nbsp;-----Original Message-----
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;From: Nancy Brandt 
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;Has anybody seen/created something similar to the LATEX 
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;\renewcommand function? This function redefines an element's 
&lt;br&gt;| &amp;nbsp;default look&amp;feel within the source file.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What would you expect a &amp;quot;\renewcommand function counterpart&amp;quot; to accomplish? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;XML has processing instructions (PIs). DocBook XSL recognizes a set of
&lt;br&gt;predefined PIs, and you can also create your own as part of your
&lt;br&gt;customization. See
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ProcessingInstructions.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ProcessingInstructions.html&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You could also use the role attribute as a &amp;quot;hook&amp;quot; for customizations. See
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/AddNewTemplate.html#AttValueFormatting&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/AddNewTemplate.html#AttValueFormatting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mauritz
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26120551</id>
	<title>Indenting an inline media object within a table cell</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T13:52:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T13:52:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>nancy_b</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td valign=&quot;top&quot; style=&quot;font: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;Hi folks,&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;I need to&amp;nbsp;create &amp;nbsp;a table in which there are two rows in the following form:&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;STRONG&gt;First cell&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Second cell&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;|&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;bullet-like image&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;Text&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; |&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Other Content&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;|&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;|_____________________________________|___________________|&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;|&amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;indent 0.1in&amp;gt; &amp;lt;bullet-like image&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp;Text&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;|&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Other&amp;nbsp;Content&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;|&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;|_____________________________________|___________________|&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;The question is how do I create this 0.1in indent in the 1st entry of the second row using XSL (and not XSL-FO)&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;I tried:&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;lt;inlinemediaobject margin-left=&quot;0.1in&quot;&amp;gt;,&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;....&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;lt;inlinemediaobject start-indent=&quot;0.1in&quot;&amp;gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;....&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Nothing happened...&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;The reason I want it in XSL is that I wish this indentation to appear both in PDF and HTML outputs.&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Please, advise!!!&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Thanks a lot in advance!!!&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Best regards,&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;Nancy&lt;/DIV&gt;
&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26112396</id>
	<title>The LATEX \renewcommand function counterpart in Docbook XSL</title>
	<published>2009-10-29T05:48:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-10-29T05:48:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>nancy_b</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;table cellspacing=&quot;0&quot; cellpadding=&quot;0&quot; border=&quot;0&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td valign=&quot;top&quot; style=&quot;font: inherit;&quot;&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi All, &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Has anybody seen/created something similar to the LATEX \renewcommand function? This function redefines an element's default look&amp;amp;feel within the source file.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks a lot in advance!!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best wishes,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nancy&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;&lt;br&gt;

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