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Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Hi Dennis,
2008/12/12 Dennis Lundberg <dennisl@...>: > Hi Vincent > > Can we have a quit poll about version numbering. We have had discussions > about this in the past and I'd like to come to a conclusion now that the > release is getting closer. > > The proposal that was made earlier was this: > > 1. Create an Doxia 1.0 release from the current doxia-1.0-alpha-x branch +1 > > 2. Release the current trunk as version 1.1 (currently labeled as > 1.0-beta-1 in JIRA) +1 > > One reason for this change would be to get out of the alpha/beta mess. +1 > It would also align version numbers nicely with Maven and the Site Plugin. hehe it's about dumb luck :) > > We would the have two parallel tracks: > > Track one: Maven 2.0.x + Doxia 1.0.x + Site Plugin 2.0.x > > Track two: Maven 2.1.x + Doxia 1.1.x + Site Plugin 2.1.x > > This also ties in with the Doxia Release Plan [1] > > I will have some time off from work during the holidays and will be able > to help. > > > WDYT? Two releases rather one, good xmas presents! If no objections, I will start to prepare these releases, jump in when you are free. Cheers, Vincent > > [1] http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Doxia+Release+Plan |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Some actions items:
- rename the actual doxia branch to 1.0.x and create a new branch for sitetools (and probably for tools) I propose to use the alpha tag code to do this. Create a new branch 1.0.x for all doxia projects sounds better. - apply new versioning in pom - update jira What else? Cheers, Vincent 2008/12/13 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: > Hi Dennis, > > 2008/12/12 Dennis Lundberg <dennisl@...>: >> Hi Vincent >> >> Can we have a quit poll about version numbering. We have had discussions >> about this in the past and I'd like to come to a conclusion now that the >> release is getting closer. >> >> The proposal that was made earlier was this: >> >> 1. Create an Doxia 1.0 release from the current doxia-1.0-alpha-x branch > > +1 > >> >> 2. Release the current trunk as version 1.1 (currently labeled as >> 1.0-beta-1 in JIRA) > > +1 > >> >> One reason for this change would be to get out of the alpha/beta mess. > > +1 > >> It would also align version numbers nicely with Maven and the Site Plugin. > > hehe it's about dumb luck :) > >> >> We would the have two parallel tracks: >> >> Track one: Maven 2.0.x + Doxia 1.0.x + Site Plugin 2.0.x >> >> Track two: Maven 2.1.x + Doxia 1.1.x + Site Plugin 2.1.x >> >> This also ties in with the Doxia Release Plan [1] >> >> I will have some time off from work during the holidays and will be able >> to help. >> >> >> WDYT? > > Two releases rather one, good xmas presents! > > If no objections, I will start to prepare these releases, jump in when > you are free. > > Cheers, > > Vincent > >> >> [1] http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Doxia+Release+Plan > |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Vincent Siveton wrote:
> Some actions items: > - rename the actual doxia branch to 1.0.x and create a new branch for > sitetools (and probably for tools) I propose to use the alpha tag code > to do this. Create a new branch 1.0.x for all doxia projects sounds > better. If we still want to have these as separate parts (and IIRC that is what we want) we need to do this: 1. Rename http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0-alpha-x/ to http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ 2. Rename http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ to http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ 3. If doxia-tools is used by the current alpha-branches (I don't think it is) we need to create http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-tools/branches/doxia-tools-1.0.x/ > - apply new versioning in pom Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both the branch and trunk. > - update jira I can take care of that. > What else? For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? > > Cheers, > > Vincent > > 2008/12/13 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: >> Hi Dennis, >> >> 2008/12/12 Dennis Lundberg <dennisl@...>: >>> Hi Vincent >>> >>> Can we have a quit poll about version numbering. We have had discussions >>> about this in the past and I'd like to come to a conclusion now that the >>> release is getting closer. >>> >>> The proposal that was made earlier was this: >>> >>> 1. Create an Doxia 1.0 release from the current doxia-1.0-alpha-x branch >> +1 >> >>> 2. Release the current trunk as version 1.1 (currently labeled as >>> 1.0-beta-1 in JIRA) >> +1 >> >>> One reason for this change would be to get out of the alpha/beta mess. >> +1 >> >>> It would also align version numbers nicely with Maven and the Site Plugin. >> hehe it's about dumb luck :) >> >>> We would the have two parallel tracks: >>> >>> Track one: Maven 2.0.x + Doxia 1.0.x + Site Plugin 2.0.x >>> >>> Track two: Maven 2.1.x + Doxia 1.1.x + Site Plugin 2.1.x >>> >>> This also ties in with the Doxia Release Plan [1] >>> >>> I will have some time off from work during the holidays and will be able >>> to help. >>> >>> >>> WDYT? >> Two releases rather one, good xmas presents! >> >> If no objections, I will start to prepare these releases, jump in when >> you are free. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Vincent >> >>> [1] http://docs.codehaus.org/display/MAVEN/Doxia+Release+Plan > -- Dennis Lundberg |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Hi Dennis,
> 2. Rename > http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ > to > http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I propose: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with doxia https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ doxia-sitetools https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) >> - apply new versioning in pom > > Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both the > branch and trunk. Before is better IMHO >> What else? > > For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. > > Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? > If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? Sounds good for me. Cheers, Vincent |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Hi Dennis,
I renamed branches, did an external on the branches, updated some poms. I leave you Jira and the 1.0 release. Cheers, Vincent 2008/12/14 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: > Hi Dennis, > >> 2. Rename >> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ >> to >> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ > > I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) > > So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I propose: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with > doxia https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ > doxia-sitetools https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ > > Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) > >>> - apply new versioning in pom >> >> Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both the >> branch and trunk. > > Before is better IMHO > >>> What else? >> >> For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. >> >> Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? >> If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? > > Sounds good for me. > > Cheers, > > Vincent > |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)I have a question about this...
Does this mean that MNG-3402 should be rescheduled for 2.1.0 now, instead of 2.0.11? I have updated the wiki - and have pushed the upgrade to beta-1 out to 2.1.0-M3 so that we can push out another milestone in the mean time. Cheers, Brett 2008/12/16 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...> Hi Dennis, I renamed branches, did an external on the branches, updated some poms. I leave you Jira and the 1.0 release. Cheers, Vincent 2008/12/14 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: > Hi Dennis, > >> 2. Rename >> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ >> to >> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ > > I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) > > So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I propose: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with > doxia https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ > doxia-sitetools https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ > > Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) > >>> - apply new versioning in pom >> >> Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both the >> branch and trunk. > > Before is better IMHO > >>> What else? >> >> For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. >> >> Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? >> If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? > > Sounds good for me. > > Cheers, > > Vincent > -- Brett Porter http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/ |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Hi Brett,
I think we could have the following: Doxia 1.0 should be for Maven 2.0.x Doxia 1.1 should be for Maven 2.1.x/3.x with a fix for MNG-3402 Cheers, Vincent 2008/12/18 Brett Porter <brett@...>: > I have a question about this... > > Does this mean that MNG-3402 should be rescheduled for 2.1.0 now, instead of > 2.0.11? > > I have updated the wiki - and have pushed the upgrade to beta-1 out to > 2.1.0-M3 so that we can push out another milestone in the mean time. > > Cheers, > Brett > > 2008/12/16 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...> > Hi Dennis, > > I renamed branches, did an external on the branches, updated some poms. > I leave you Jira and the 1.0 release. > > Cheers, > > Vincent > > 2008/12/14 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: >> Hi Dennis, >> >>> 2. Rename >>> >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ >>> to >>> >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ >> >> I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) >> >> So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I propose: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with >> doxia >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ >> doxia-sitetools >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ >> >> Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) >> >>>> - apply new versioning in pom >>> >>> Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both the >>> branch and trunk. >> >> Before is better IMHO >> >>>> What else? >>> >>> For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. >>> >>> Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? >>> If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? >> >> Sounds good for me. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Vincent >> > > > > -- > Brett Porter > http://blogs.exist.com/bporter/ > |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)JIRA is done now. I've changed the names of the versions in JIRA in the
following way, for both DOXIA and DOXIASITETOOLS: Old version -> New version 1.0-beta-1 -> 1.1 1.0-beta-2 -> 1.2 1.0 -> 1.3 I also added a 1.0 version for each project. They currently have no issues connected to them. Vincent Siveton wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > I renamed branches, did an external on the branches, updated some poms. > I leave you Jira and the 1.0 release. > > Cheers, > > Vincent > > 2008/12/14 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: >> Hi Dennis, >> >>> 2. Rename >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ >>> to >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ >> I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) >> >> So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I propose: >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with >> doxia https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ >> doxia-sitetools https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ >> >> Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) >> >>>> - apply new versioning in pom >>> Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both the >>> branch and trunk. >> Before is better IMHO >> >>>> What else? >>> For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. >>> >>> Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? >>> If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? >> Sounds good for me. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Vincent >> > -- Dennis Lundberg |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Hi Dennis,
Thanks for this! Vincent 2008/12/28, Dennis Lundberg <dennisl@...>: > JIRA is done now. I've changed the names of the versions in JIRA in the > following way, for both DOXIA and DOXIASITETOOLS: > > Old version -> New version > > 1.0-beta-1 -> 1.1 > 1.0-beta-2 -> 1.2 > 1.0 -> 1.3 > > I also added a 1.0 version for each project. They currently have no > issues connected to them. > > > > Vincent Siveton wrote: > > Hi Dennis, > > > > I renamed branches, did an external on the branches, updated some poms. > > I leave you Jira and the 1.0 release. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Vincent > > > > 2008/12/14 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: > >> Hi Dennis, > >> > >>> 2. Rename > >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ > >>> to > >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ > >> I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) > >> > >> So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I propose: > >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with > >> doxia https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ > >> doxia-sitetools https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches/doxia-1.0.x/ > >> > >> Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) > >> > >>>> - apply new versioning in pom > >>> Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both the > >>> branch and trunk. > >> Before is better IMHO > >> > >>>> What else? > >>> For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. > >>> > >>> Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? > >>> If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? > >> Sounds good for me. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> Vincent > >> > > > > > > -- > > Dennis Lundberg > |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)One side remark about the site: for doxia-1.1 (was 1.0-beta-1) we have modified the apt format with the plan to render obsolete the original apt used in maven 2.0.x. If we are going to support and maintain both doxia-1.0 (was alpha branch) and doxia-1.1 then we have to keep both formats documented on the doxia site. It's not a big problem since we have already separate docs for the old style and the changes in the new format [1]. I can take care to add notes about the different versions in those documents, or should we keep two completely different descriptions of the apt format on the site? Or two different web sites (for 1.0 and 1.1) altogether? -Lukas [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/site/src/site/apt/references/ Dennis Lundberg wrote: > JIRA is done now. I've changed the names of the versions in JIRA in the > following way, for both DOXIA and DOXIASITETOOLS: > > Old version -> New version > > 1.0-beta-1 -> 1.1 > 1.0-beta-2 -> 1.2 > 1.0 -> 1.3 > > I also added a 1.0 version for each project. They currently have no > issues connected to them. > > > |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Lukas Theussl wrote:
> > One side remark about the site: for doxia-1.1 (was 1.0-beta-1) we have > modified the apt format with the plan to render obsolete the original > apt used in maven 2.0.x. If we are going to support and maintain both > doxia-1.0 (was alpha branch) and doxia-1.1 then we have to keep both > formats documented on the doxia site. It's not a big problem since we > have already separate docs for the old style and the changes in the new > format [1]. I can take care to add notes about the different versions in > those documents, or should we keep two completely different descriptions > of the apt format on the site? Or two different web sites (for 1.0 and > 1.1) altogether? I think one set of documents is enough, if it includes notes about what has changed over time. > -Lukas > > [1] > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/site/src/site/apt/references/ > > > Dennis Lundberg wrote: >> JIRA is done now. I've changed the names of the versions in JIRA in the >> following way, for both DOXIA and DOXIASITETOOLS: >> >> Old version -> New version >> >> 1.0-beta-1 -> 1.1 >> 1.0-beta-2 -> 1.2 >> 1.0 -> 1.3 >> >> I also added a 1.0 version for each project. They currently have no >> issues connected to them. >> >> >> > -- Dennis Lundberg |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Hi Vincent,
I also think the 1.1-SNAPSHOT could be deployed on http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository/. 1.0-beta-1-SNAPSHOT is the only version available there. Juan. On Monday 29 December 2008 10:13:32 Vincent Siveton wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > Thanks for this! > > Vincent > > 2008/12/28, Dennis Lundberg <dennisl@...>: > > JIRA is done now. I've changed the names of the versions in JIRA in the > > following way, for both DOXIA and DOXIASITETOOLS: > > > > Old version -> New version > > > > 1.0-beta-1 -> 1.1 > > 1.0-beta-2 -> 1.2 > > 1.0 -> 1.3 > > > > I also added a 1.0 version for each project. They currently have no > > issues connected to them. > > > > Vincent Siveton wrote: > > > Hi Dennis, > > > > > > I renamed branches, did an external on the branches, updated some > > > poms. I leave you Jira and the 1.0 release. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Vincent > > > > > > 2008/12/14 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: > > >> Hi Dennis, > > >> > > >>> 2. Rename > > >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branc > > >>>hes/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ to > > >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branc > > >>>hes/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ > > >> > > >> I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) > > >> > > >> So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I > > >> propose: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with > > >> doxia > > >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0 > > >>.x/ doxia-sitetools > > >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches > > >>/doxia-1.0.x/ > > >> > > >> Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) > > >> > > >>>> - apply new versioning in pom > > >>> > > >>> Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both > > >>> the branch and trunk. > > >> > > >> Before is better IMHO > > >> > > >>>> What else? > > >>> > > >>> For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. > > >>> > > >>> Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? > > >>> If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? > > >> > > >> Sounds good for me. > > >> > > >> Cheers, > > >> > > >> Vincent > > > > -- > > > > Dennis Lundberg Buenos Aires, Argentina http://juan.zauber.com.ar/ |
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Re: Doxia Versioning (WAS Preparation of Doxia 1.0-beta-1 release)Hi Juan,
I just deployed 1.1-SNAPSHOT artifacts. Cheers, Vincent 2009/1/6, Juan F. Codagnone <juan-open@...>: > Hi Vincent, > > I also think the 1.1-SNAPSHOT could be deployed on > http://people.apache.org/repo/m2-snapshot-repository/. 1.0-beta-1-SNAPSHOT is > the only version available there. > > Juan. > > > On Monday 29 December 2008 10:13:32 Vincent Siveton wrote: > > Hi Dennis, > > > > Thanks for this! > > > > Vincent > > > > 2008/12/28, Dennis Lundberg <dennisl@...>: > > > JIRA is done now. I've changed the names of the versions in JIRA in the > > > following way, for both DOXIA and DOXIASITETOOLS: > > > > > > Old version -> New version > > > > > > 1.0-beta-1 -> 1.1 > > > 1.0-beta-2 -> 1.2 > > > 1.0 -> 1.3 > > > > > > I also added a 1.0 version for each project. They currently have no > > > issues connected to them. > > > > > > Vincent Siveton wrote: > > > > Hi Dennis, > > > > > > > > I renamed branches, did an external on the branches, updated some > > > > poms. I leave you Jira and the 1.0 release. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Vincent > > > > > > > > 2008/12/14 Vincent Siveton <vincent.siveton@...>: > > > >> Hi Dennis, > > > >> > > > >>> 2. Rename > > > >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branc > > > >>>hes/doxia-sitetools-1.0-alpha-x/ to > > > >>> http://svn.eu.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branc > > > >>>hes/doxia-sitetools-1.0.x/ > > > >> > > > >> I didn't remember this branch... Thanks to refresh my memory :) > > > >> > > > >> So, I suggest also to create an external on these branches. I > > > >> propose: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/1.0-x with > > > >> doxia > > > >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia/branches/doxia-1.0 > > > >>.x/ doxia-sitetools > > > >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/doxia/doxia-sitetools/branches > > > >>/doxia-1.0.x/ > > > >> > > > >> Also, think to update the scm tag in the poms :) > > > >> > > > >>>> - apply new versioning in pom > > > >>> > > > >>> Yes, either before the release or during release:prepare, for both > > > >>> the branch and trunk. > > > >> > > > >> Before is better IMHO > > > >> > > > >>>> What else? > > > >>> > > > >>> For the 1.0 release I think that covers it. > > > >>> > > > >>> Shall we divide up the work between us Vincent? > > > >>> If I do the 1.0 release can you do the 1.1 release? > > > >> > > > >> Sounds good for me. > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> > > > >> Vincent > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Dennis Lundberg > > > -- > Buenos Aires, Argentina http://juan.zauber.com.ar/ > > > > |
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