Draggable strange behaviour in firefox 3.5.4

[barb-14]

Hi,

I am using draggable & droppable on my website to drag menu items to a
calendar grid. It works perfectly in IE8 but in Firefox 3.5.4 I get
these faint red trails across the page when I drag something. These
trails go away when I page down and then up again.

Has anyone else noticed this behaviour. Is there any way to correct
it.

You can see what I mean here.

http://webrecipemanager.com/menuplanner.php

Any help would be much appreciated.

Barb

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[Brandon Ryall]

Barb

Try using firebug to see if you get any errors in the console when you start the drag.

You can get firebug from http://getfirebug.com/ if you don't already have it.

(Also, that link you provided has a redirect to an index.html page)

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, barb <barbara.woolums@...> wrote:

Hi,

I am using draggable & droppable on my website to drag menu items to a
calendar grid. It works perfectly in IE8 but in Firefox 3.5.4 I get
these faint red trails across the page when I drag something. These
trails go away when I page down and then up again.

Has anyone else noticed this behaviour. Is there any way to correct
it.

You can see what I mean here.

http://webrecipemanager.com/menuplanner.php

Any help would be much appreciated.

Barb

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[Scott Sauyet-2]

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, barb <barbara.woolums@...> wrote:
> I am using draggable & droppable on my website to drag menu items to a
> calendar grid. It works perfectly in IE8 but in Firefox 3.5.4 I get
> these faint red trails across the page when I drag something. These
> trails go away when I page down and then up again.

I'm not seeing these trails.  Does it happen when FF is freshly loaded
or only after it's been debugging numerous other problems for hours?
(It really does seem to make a difference for me; I think some pages
yield leaks during really heavy usage, and those leaks lead to
occasional rendering bugs in animations.)

(Only Monday is working, correct?)

And to Brandon's point, next time you might remember to tell people
that they need to log in with the supplied username/password to get to
the page.  I almost gave up before I noticed these on the page.

  -- Scott

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[barb-14]

First, sorry about forgetting to mention the sign on details. Yes you
need to log in using

user demo
password demo99

Only Monday works at this stage.

I'm not getting any errors in firebug (I use this for debugging all
the time)

I tried restarting Firefox, and still get the trails. They are very
faint, but still there. They don't seem to appear until the second or
third drag though.



On Nov 2, 7:31 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:
> > I am using draggable & droppable on my website to drag menu items to a
> > calendar grid. It works perfectly in IE8 but in Firefox 3.5.4 I get
> > these faint red trails across the page when I drag something. These
> > trails go away when I page down and then up again.
>
> I'm not seeing these trails.  Does it happen when FF is freshly loaded
> or only after it's been debugging numerous other problems for hours?
> (It really does seem to make a difference for me; I think some pages
> yield leaks during really heavy usage, and those leaks lead to
> occasional rendering bugs in animations.)
>
> (Only Monday is working, correct?)
>
> And to Brandon's point, next time you might remember to tell people
> that they need to log in with the supplied username/password to get to
> the page.  I almost gave up before I noticed these on the page.
>
>   -- Scott

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[Richard D. Worth-2]

Weird. I'm seeing the trails in Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. Not in IE or Opera. It happens only when you drag the item up and to the right or down and to the right, originates from the left of the item, is a little darker than the background color, and gets erased if you go back over the trail with the item. For me, they appear on the first drag.

- Richard

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:59 AM, barb <barbara.woolums@...> wrote:

First, sorry about forgetting to mention the sign on details. Yes you
need to log in using

user demo
password demo99

Only Monday works at this stage.

I'm not getting any errors in firebug (I use this for debugging all
the time)

I tried restarting Firefox, and still get the trails. They are very
faint, but still there. They don't seem to appear until the second or
third drag though.



On Nov 2, 7:31 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:
> > I am using draggable & droppable on my website to drag menu items to a
> > calendar grid. It works perfectly in IE8 but in Firefox 3.5.4 I get
> > these faint red trails across the page when I drag something. These
> > trails go away when I page down and then up again.
>
> I'm not seeing these trails.  Does it happen when FF is freshly loaded
> or only after it's been debugging numerous other problems for hours?
> (It really does seem to make a difference for me; I think some pages
> yield leaks during really heavy usage, and those leaks lead to
> occasional rendering bugs in animations.)
>
> (Only Monday is working, correct?)
>
> And to Brandon's point, next time you might remember to tell people
> that they need to log in with the supplied username/password to get to
> the page.  I almost gave up before I noticed these on the page.
>
>   -- Scott

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[barb-14]

You're right it is happening every drag, but seems to get worse each
time.

On Nov 3, 2:35 pm, "Richard D. Worth" <rdwo...@...> wrote:

> Weird. I'm seeing the trails in Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. Not in IE or
> Opera. It happens only when you drag the item up and to the right or down
> and to the right, originates from the left of the item, is a little darker
> than the background color, and gets erased if you go back over the trail
> with the item. For me, they appear on the first drag.
>
> - Richard
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:59 AM, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:
> > First, sorry about forgetting to mention the sign on details. Yes you
> > need to log in using
>
> > user demo
> > password demo99
>
> > Only Monday works at this stage.
>
> > I'm not getting any errors in firebug (I use this for debugging all
> > the time)
>
> > I tried restarting Firefox, and still get the trails. They are very
> > faint, but still there. They don't seem to appear until the second or
> > third drag though.
>
> > On Nov 2, 7:31 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:04 PM, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:
> > > > I am using draggable & droppable on my website to drag menu items to a
> > > > calendar grid. It works perfectly in IE8 but in Firefox 3.5.4 I get
> > > > these faint red trails across the page when I drag something. These
> > > > trails go away when I page down and then up again.
>
> > > I'm not seeing these trails.  Does it happen when FF is freshly loaded
> > > or only after it's been debugging numerous other problems for hours?
> > > (It really does seem to make a difference for me; I think some pages
> > > yield leaks during really heavy usage, and those leaks lead to
> > > occasional rendering bugs in animations.)
>
> > > (Only Monday is working, correct?)
>
> > > And to Brandon's point, next time you might remember to tell people
> > > that they need to log in with the supplied username/password to get to
> > > the page.  I almost gave up before I noticed these on the page.
>
> > >   -- Scott
>
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[Scott Sauyet-2]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM, barb <barbara.woolums@...> wrote:
> You're right it is happening every drag, but seems to get worse each
> time.

Interesting, I am still not seeing it at all.  I've tested FF 3.5.4,
Chrome 3.0.195.27, Safari 4.0.3, IE 8, and Op 9.64, all on Win XP SP2
I don't see it anywhere.

  -- Scott

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[barb-14]

I'm running vista, don't know if that affects anything?

On Nov 3, 4:59 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:
> > You're right it is happening every drag, but seems to get worse each
> > time.
>
> Interesting, I am still not seeing it at all.  I've tested FF 3.5.4,
> Chrome 3.0.195.27, Safari 4.0.3, IE 8, and Op 9.64, all on Win XP SP2
> I don't see it anywhere.
>
>   -- Scott

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[Scott Sauyet-2]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:28 PM, barb <barbara.woolums@...> wrote:
> I'm running vista, don't know if that affects anything?

Probably.  Vista affects everything else!  :-(

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[Fontzter-2]

Weird!  Seems to be more apparent when you drag slowly.  I'm
suspicious of the :hover css styles.  Can you try coding them out and
retesting?  It would be good if we could reproduce this in a minimal
fashion on jsbin.  The other thing you may want to try is to comment
out the tree menu call and see how these items drag if that code is
not applied to them.

Hth,

Dave


On Nov 3, 12:28 pm, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:

> I'm running vista, don't know if that affects anything?
>
> On Nov 3, 4:59 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 11:16 AM, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:
> > > You're right it is happening every drag, but seems to get worse each
> > > time.
>
> > Interesting, I am still not seeing it at all.  I've tested FF 3.5.4,
> > Chrome 3.0.195.27, Safari 4.0.3, IE 8, and Op 9.64, all on Win XP SP2
> > I don't see it anywhere.
>
> >   -- Scott

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[Scott Sauyet-2]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Fontzter <dmfontz@...> wrote:
> Weird!  Seems to be more apparent when you drag slowly.

What OS are you using?  It's happening for Barb in Vista, but not for me in XP.

  -- Scott

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[Fontzter-2]

XP SP2; FF 3.5.4

Dave

On Nov 3, 1:10 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Fontzter <dmfo...@...> wrote:
> > Weird!  Seems to be more apparent when you drag slowly.
>
> What OS are you using?  It's happening for Barb in Vista, but not for me in XP.
>
>   -- Scott

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[barb-14]

Still doesn't explain why some people are seeing this and others
aren't though.

On Nov 3, 6:37 pm, Fontzter <dmfo...@...> wrote:

> XP SP2; FF 3.5.4
>
> Dave
>
> On Nov 3, 1:10 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Fontzter <dmfo...@...> wrote:
> > > Weird!  Seems to be more apparent when you drag slowly.
>
> > What OS are you using?  It's happening for Barb in Vista, but not for me in XP.
>
> >   -- Scott

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[barb-14]

I'll try that again.

Dave, I tried commenting out the hover for my menu items, that made no
difference. So I tried commenting out the link to my css file
completely ..and no more trails.

What I don't understand is it it's css related then why are some
people seeing this behaviour and not others?

On Nov 3, 7:52 pm, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:

> Still doesn't explain why some people are seeing this and others
> aren't though.
>
> On Nov 3, 6:37 pm, Fontzter <dmfo...@...> wrote:
>
> > XP SP2; FF 3.5.4
>
> > Dave
>
> > On Nov 3, 1:10 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Fontzter <dmfo...@...> wrote:
> > > > Weird!  Seems to be more apparent when you drag slowly.
>
> > > What OS are you using?  It's happening for Barb in Vista, but not for me in XP.
>
> > >   -- Scott

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[Scott Sauyet-2]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:59 PM, barb <barbara.woolums@...> wrote:
> What I don't understand is it it's css related then why are some
> people seeing this behaviour and not others?

So far I seem to be the only one in the thread who can't duplicate it.  Bizarre!

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[Fontzter-2]

Barb,

I've got the solution...just make Scott your first client, or at least
make him lead on your unit testing :)

I can't understand the why on the css stuff, but I was suspicious that
it was an issue.  Try commenting out different sections and see if you
can locate the troubling rule.  This can go pretty quick with
bifurcation.  Just remove half of the CSS file and see if the trouble
is in the removed or remaining half.  Then whichever it is, remove
half of that...etc...etc.

Let us know if you narrow it down.  I'm kinda curious.

Hth,

Dave

On Nov 3, 3:02 pm, Scott Sauyet <scott.sau...@...> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 2:59 PM, barb <barbara.wool...@...> wrote:
> > What I don't understand is it it's css related then why are some
> > people seeing this behaviour and not others?
>
> So far I seem to be the only one in the thread who can't duplicate it.  Bizarre!

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[Scott Sauyet-2]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Fontzter <dmfontz@...> wrote:
> I've got the solution...just make Scott your first client, or at least
> make him lead on your unit testing :)

Bring it on!  Recipes, hmm... while the kids' soccer and basketball
seasons are overlapping, I'm lucky if I can find time to cook
spaghetti, but why not?!

I really wonder if most others are seeing the same behavior.  I'm
afraid I won't be much help, though, in actually running the problem
down. :-)


> Let us know if you narrow it down.  I'm kinda curious.

Ditto.

  -- Scott

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[fichtre.diantre]

Hi,

I could test it on my Win7/FF3.5.4 and Ubuntu9.10/FF3.5.4 and, why not,
other browsers (ie, opera, safari, chrome, ...), but, would you give
again the
URL of the test site?


Fred

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[Scott Sauyet-2]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:08 AM, fichtre.diantre
<fichtre.diantre@...> wrote:
> I could test it on my Win7/FF3.5.4 and Ubuntu9.10/FF3.5.4 and, why not,
> other browsers (ie, opera, safari, chrome, ...), but, would you give
> again the
> URL of the test site?

http://webrecipemanager.com/menuplanner.php

log in with demo/demo99

and revisit the URL.  Drag menu items to Monday.  I can't see the drag
artifacts in any of my browsers.

  -- Scott

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[fichtre.diantre]

ok, your yellow lines came from the ClearType anti-aliasing of fonts
in conjonction to a default of the FF rendering.
Try adding a small padding to your Draggable, it could resolve your issue.

hope it would work,
Fred

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