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	Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by Frank Wierzbicki :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message The move for Python to hg.python.org is currently stalled on a requirement to enforce newline styles in their repository. We currently do not attempt to control line endings in the way that they do. Given this, on IRC the other day Philip Jenvey suggested that we might move to hg.python.org before Python makes the move. This would have the advantage of testing out the python.org infrastructure on our project, which has a much smaller history to deal with. And it gets us onto a DVCS, which I believe is the future for open source projects since it (IMO) lowers barriers to contribution. Dirkjan Ochtman has offered to help, and has suggested that we use the new subrepo feature of hg, which will give us a reasonable svn:externals replacement (as I understand it). So who is interested? I believe I am. Unfortunately there are some bits of our branching history that cause some trouble, but again Dirkjan has offered to take a look at the troubles (And if that doesn't work, I may try to do some svn dump hacking). The soonest that I'd consider doing this is after 2.5.1 is released. Given the above, it would likely take longer (with a test repo for a while, etc) Thoughts? -Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
	Re: Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by Jim Baker :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I am very much in favor of this early move. Mercurial is robust, so it's just a question of capturing this history. With Dirkjan's able help, I'm quite confident of this process. And it will also help the Python community as a whole. - Jim On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Frank Wierzbicki <fwierzbicki@...> wrote: The move for Python to hg.python.org is currently stalled on a requirement to enforce newline styles in their repository. We currently do not attempt to control line endings in the way that they do. Given this, on IRC the other day Philip Jenvey suggested that we might move to hg.python.org before Python makes the move. This would have the advantage of testing out the python.org infrastructure on our project, which has a much smaller history to deal with. And it gets us onto a DVCS, which I believe is the future for open source projects since it (IMO) lowers barriers to contribution. Dirkjan Ochtman has offered to help, and has suggested that we use the new subrepo feature of hg, which will give us a reasonable svn:externals replacement (as I understand it). So who is interested? I believe I am. Unfortunately there are some bits of our branching history that cause some trouble, but again Dirkjan has offered to take a look at the troubles (And if that doesn't work, I may try to do some svn dump hacking). The soonest that I'd consider doing this is after 2.5.1 is released. Given the above, it would likely take longer (with a test repo for a while, etc) Thoughts? -Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev -- Jim Baker jbaker@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
	Re: Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by Leo Soto M. :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Frank Wierzbicki <fwierzbicki@...> wrote: > The move for Python to hg.python.org is currently stalled on a > requirement to enforce newline styles in their repository. We > currently do not attempt to control line endings in the way that they > do. > > Given this, on IRC the other day Philip Jenvey suggested that we might > move to hg.python.org before Python makes the move. I think it's a great idea! -- Leo Soto M. http://blog.leosoto.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
	Re: Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by Tobias Ivarsson :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Leo Soto M. <leo.soto@...> wrote: On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Frank Wierzbicki <fwierzbicki@...> wrote: > The move for Python to hg.python.org is currently stalled on a > requirement to enforce newline styles in their repository. We > currently do not attempt to control line endings in the way that they > do. > > Given this, on IRC the other day Philip Jenvey suggested that we might > move to hg.python.org before Python makes the move. I think it's a great idea! +1 I also like the idea of using the new subrepo feature. I've tried it out a bit, it's not as powerful as svn:externals (yet), but it's good enough for us. /Tobias ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
	Re: Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by oti-3 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Has anyone tried the eclipse / hg, or netbeans / hg integration ? I desperately need an IDE to access the repo :-) Otherwise, no objections. Best wishes, Oti. On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Tobias Ivarsson <thobes@...> wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:00 AM, Leo Soto M. <leo.soto@...> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Frank Wierzbicki <fwierzbicki@...> >> wrote: >> > The move for Python to hg.python.org is currently stalled on a >> > requirement to enforce newline styles in their repository. We >> > currently do not attempt to control line endings in the way that they >> > do. >> > >> > Given this, on IRC the other day Philip Jenvey suggested that we might >> > move to hg.python.org before Python makes the move. >> >> I think it's a great idea! > > +1 > > I also like the idea of using the new subrepo feature. I've tried it out a > bit, it's not as powerful as svn:externals (yet), but it's good enough for > us. > > /Tobias > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf > _______________________________________________ > Jython-dev mailing list > Jython-dev@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
	Re: Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by Wayne Meissner :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message 2009/9/16 Oti <ohumbel@...>: > Has anyone tried the eclipse / hg, or netbeans / hg integration ? > I desperately need an IDE to access the repo :-) I use netbeans with hg for most of my projects, and it works very well. So well, its kinda painful to go back to using svn when doing jython devel, so this move also gets a big +1 from me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
	Re: Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by Alan Kennedy-2 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message [Frank] > So who is interested? I believe I am. Unfortunately there are some > bits of our branching history that cause some trouble, but again > Dirkjan has offered to take a look at the troubles (And if that > doesn't work, I may try to do some svn dump hacking). > > The soonest that I'd consider doing this is after 2.5.1 is released. > Given the above, it would likely take longer (with a test repo for a > while, etc) I suppose the only risk is that the cpython folks come across some showstopper that completely prevents them from using mercurial, and we're left as the only ones using it. But I think that's highly unlikely. So given that the move to hg is going to happen sooner or later, why not sooner? We'll be in a quiet period once the 2.5 series has settled down, so it's the ideal time. Even if it takes the cpython folks several months to move to mercurial from subversion, it should still be straightforward for us to push stuff upstream to them, regardless of what we're using. So, +1 from me. Alan. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev
	Re: Early move to hg.python.org for Jython? by Josh Juneau-3 :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message +1 Great idea! I also use the Netbeans hg integration for my projects at work and it does a fine job. Josh Juneau juneau001@... http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com Twitter ID: javajuneau On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Frank Wierzbicki <fwierzbicki@...> wrote: The move for Python to hg.python.org is currently stalled on a requirement to enforce newline styles in their repository. We currently do not attempt to control line endings in the way that they do. Given this, on IRC the other day Philip Jenvey suggested that we might move to hg.python.org before Python makes the move. This would have the advantage of testing out the python.org infrastructure on our project, which has a much smaller history to deal with. And it gets us onto a DVCS, which I believe is the future for open source projects since it (IMO) lowers barriers to contribution. Dirkjan Ochtman has offered to help, and has suggested that we use the new subrepo feature of hg, which will give us a reasonable svn:externals replacement (as I understand it). So who is interested? I believe I am. Unfortunately there are some bits of our branching history that cause some trouble, but again Dirkjan has offered to take a look at the troubles (And if that doesn't work, I may try to do some svn dump hacking). The soonest that I'd consider doing this is after 2.5.1 is released. Given the above, it would likely take longer (with a test repo for a while, etc) Thoughts? -Frank ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf _______________________________________________ Jython-dev mailing list Jython-dev@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jython-dev