Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

[Rey Bango-2]

Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
Part of that is pro-actively approaching Ajax notables in the ColdFusion
community in an effort to get them to give some face time to jQuery.
Well I'm happy to announce that it looks like I've converted one of the
notables in the ColdFusion community; Joe Danziger. Joe's written
several articles on Ajax primarily focusing on Prototype/Scriptaculous
with ColdFusion. You can read about it here as well as his comments
about jQuery:

http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2006/12/6/Why-jQuery-Rocks-or-How-I-Got-Joe-Danziger-to-Convert

The reason that I'm posting this is to encourage everyone to be
pro-active in approaching the top names in your respective areas and
development tools and telling them about jQuery. It seems that many
folks either don't know about jQuery or have a misconception about what
it does. In my Joe thought it was just some javascript library until he
actually saw the plugins and functionality included in it.

I was fairly disappointed not seeing jQuery mentioned in this recent
comparison:

http://www.dzone.com/rsslinks/an_open_source_ajax_comparison_matrix.html

so I'm going to continue to push hard to get the word out. I hope
everyone joins me in those efforts.

If you see Joe on this mailing list, please make him feel at home. I've
talked to him about writing another article for AjaxWorld about using
jQuery with ColdFusion and he seems pretty excited about doing it.

I will be out of town until Monday so if you reply to me and don't get a
response back, I'll get back to you then.

Rey...
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[thumblewend]

Hi Rey,
This is slightly off-topic of me but I'm not sure how else to get in  
contact with you. I just want you to know that I replied to your  
direct email a few weeks ago (regarding the case study), but I think  
my email didn't get past your junk filter. Please advise if you are  
still interested, and maybe add my email to your address book so I  
get through to you.
Sorry for this email everyone else, please forgive me.

Joel Birch.

On 08/12/2006, at 12:45 AM, Rey Bango wrote:

> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.


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[Sean O]

Hey Rey,


Someone posted an alternate comparison in the comments that did feature jQuery:
http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/UP3/Javascript+Toolkit+Comparison

However, they gave it one star for "widgets"!  Huh? What?  Did this person not even take a brief glance at the Plugins page?  And developer community got a measly 2 stars.  They obviously don't know about this list, and didn't bother to look.  Perhaps the forthcoming (?) forums will help exposure.  At least the Nabble interface gets some jquery-ish keywords out there...

________
SEAN O

Rey Bango-2 wrote:

Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
Part of that is pro-actively approaching Ajax notables in the ColdFusion
community in an effort to get them to give some face time to jQuery.
Well I'm happy to announce that it looks like I've converted one of the
notables in the ColdFusion community; Joe Danziger. Joe's written
several articles on Ajax primarily focusing on Prototype/Scriptaculous
with ColdFusion. You can read about it here as well as his comments
about jQuery:

http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2006/12/6/Why-jQuery-Rocks-or-How-I-Got-Joe-Danziger-to-Convert

The reason that I'm posting this is to encourage everyone to be
pro-active in approaching the top names in your respective areas and
development tools and telling them about jQuery. It seems that many
folks either don't know about jQuery or have a misconception about what
it does. In my Joe thought it was just some javascript library until he
actually saw the plugins and functionality included in it.

I was fairly disappointed not seeing jQuery mentioned in this recent
comparison:

http://www.dzone.com/rsslinks/an_open_source_ajax_comparison_matrix.html

so I'm going to continue to push hard to get the word out. I hope
everyone joins me in those efforts.

If you see Joe on this mailing list, please make him feel at home. I've
talked to him about writing another article for AjaxWorld about using
jQuery with ColdFusion and he seems pretty excited about doing it.

I will be out of town until Monday so if you reply to me and don't get a
response back, I'll get back to you then.

Rey...
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[Edwin Martin]

Rey Bango wrote:
> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
>  
I think it would be a good idea to have jQuery on sites like gotapi.com.

They're open for contributions (code, that is).

Site: http://www.gotapi.com/

How to contribute your API: http://www.gotapi.com/contribute/index.html

Edwin Martin (jquery-enthousiast since a week).

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[Tane Piper]

Here is some notes I took on my blackberry.  Sometimes I just get
ideas like this and like to take them down.  It's for getjquery.com
which could be a great way to promote the library.

Getjquery.org site ideas:

Create a site in a similar vein to getfirefox.org, promoting the
features and values of the Jquery library.

The site is build aroud x ideas:
- what is jQuery? (Introduction and Faq)
- jQuery in action (both onsite and offsite), jQuery in the press.
- get jQuery (offer several downloads I.e. Lite, developer and roll-your-own)
- jQuery tutorials (onsite, offsite, video and podcasts)
- your jQuery - user submission such as sites running jQuery, code
snipits, photos (conferences, sillyness, etc).
- jQuery swag - t-shirts, mugs, mouse mats, etc.
- support us - donations

Site runs on Drupal, with modulles to build a community site, get
advocates od jQuery from the mailing list to contribute to design and
function, come up with unique content for site. Look at either
creating a tour in flash, or someone write it in jQuery (to show the
power!!)

Aim of the site is to raise awareness and take up of the jQuery
library. Show that some big sites (technorati, drupal) are using
jQuery, get quotes and soundbites and plaster them on the site.

Create a central pot of funds for running hosting, getting advertising
and donating to jQuery related projects. Possibly offer awards for
excellent projects decided by a panel.  Could also go towards funding
speakers at events to promote jQuery.

Feel free to expand on this, or just ignore it but I thought I'd throw
it into the pot.

Tane
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk

On 12/7/06, Rey Bango <rey@...> wrote:

> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
> Part of that is pro-actively approaching Ajax notables in the ColdFusion
> community in an effort to get them to give some face time to jQuery.
> Well I'm happy to announce that it looks like I've converted one of the
> notables in the ColdFusion community; Joe Danziger. Joe's written
> several articles on Ajax primarily focusing on Prototype/Scriptaculous
> with ColdFusion. You can read about it here as well as his comments
> about jQuery:
>
> http://www.reybango.com/index.cfm/2006/12/6/Why-jQuery-Rocks-or-How-I-Got-Joe-Danziger-to-Convert
>
> The reason that I'm posting this is to encourage everyone to be
> pro-active in approaching the top names in your respective areas and
> development tools and telling them about jQuery. It seems that many
> folks either don't know about jQuery or have a misconception about what
> it does. In my Joe thought it was just some javascript library until he
> actually saw the plugins and functionality included in it.
>
> I was fairly disappointed not seeing jQuery mentioned in this recent
> comparison:
>
> http://www.dzone.com/rsslinks/an_open_source_ajax_comparison_matrix.html
>
> so I'm going to continue to push hard to get the word out. I hope
> everyone joins me in those efforts.
>
> If you see Joe on this mailing list, please make him feel at home. I've
> talked to him about writing another article for AjaxWorld about using
> jQuery with ColdFusion and he seems pretty excited about doing it.
>
> I will be out of town until Monday so if you reply to me and don't get a
> response back, I'll get back to you then.
>
> Rey...
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>
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[Alex Cook]

From: discuss-bounces@... [mailto:discuss-bounces@...] On
Behalf Of Rey Bango
Subject: [jQuery] Efforts to Convert Folks to jQuery

The reason that I'm posting this is to encourage everyone to be
pro-active in approaching the top names in your respective areas and
development tools and telling them about jQuery. It seems that many
folks either don't know about jQuery or have a misconception about what
it does. In my Joe thought it was just some javascript library until he
actually saw the plugins and functionality included in it.

------

Did anyone ever see that 'Learn Ruby in 15 Minutes' app that floated
around prolly a year ago now?

http://tryruby.hobix.com/

I've been poking at trying to do something similar for jQuery.
Hopefully this weekend I'll have something to share.

-ALEX

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[Solid Source]

Of particular importance to JQuery I believe is finding a way to help developers understand VERY OBVIOUSLY that this is not another Prototype/Dojo///, but rather a very different way to address the issue of DOM interaction in a concise not overly verbose manner. I have used every major(and minor for that matter) lib out there for various projects/apps and I am absolutely committed to JQuery after all my experimenting.

You all know why ... :)

The only reason it took so long for me to convert was that I saw JQuery initially as just another lib. JQuery was less publicized at the time and that made for easy oversight of it's true value.

If you/we find a way to make it obvious at first glance(wherever the first glance lives) what we have here is special in a way you haven't experienced yet in your libquest(s), along with a very concise and simple(layman's terms) why, I feel this would be a huge benefit.

So I pointed out a problem so here's a few ideas/solutions:

1. Change the slogan "New Wave Javascript" to something more along the lines of explaining what it does or how it does it rather than what it is. Everyone thinks they are new wave right? :)

2. The jquery.com homepage has this text as the first paragraph at the top, "jQuery is a new type of Javascript library. It is not a huge, bloated framework promising the best in AJAX - nor is it just a set of needlessly complex enhancements - jQuery is designed to change the way that you write Javascript.". Along with the first section heading, "What is jQuery?".

Why did this not sink in for me the first few times I visited the site? I'll choose some libraries that I have used in the past, before converting, and break out their home pages ...
1. dojo: "Dojo is the Open Source JavaScript toolkit that makes professional web development better, easier, and faster."
2. prototype: "Prototype is a JavaScript framework that aims to ease development of dynamic web applications"
3. scriptaculous/proto: "script.aculo.us provides you with easy-to-use, cross-browser user interface JavaScript libraries to make your web sites and web applications fly."
4. mochikit: "Makes JavaScript suck less." - I love this one
5. rico: "An open-source JavaScript library for creating rich internet applications. Rico provides full AJAX support, drag and drop management and a cinematic effects library."

commonalities: they all make JavaScript development better, easier, and faster of course :). This was what stuck everytime I crawled the web for a new library, so I was looking unconsciously for something to stand out other than the obvious.

I think the JQuery homepage explanation is very honest, but it "sounded" like it was going to make my development better, easier, and faster. I didn't want to spend the time(I hit JQuery after proto,script,mochi,rico) to try yet another lib, especially if it is less known - probably meaning rel. cycles are low, community is small, plug ins obsolete. I might have taken the time if I had somehow "got it" without having to dig around a commit a lot of time. So ... long winded point comes ... if the homepage featured very little text describing JQuery, and a lot more functional concise examples, and talk of community, plugins, etc ... I think the segways from what do I need, to hey that looks nice, to let me try that with my problem, to why didn't I start using this sooner mean new JQuery users faster.

closing example: JQuery homepage-marketing landing page

JQuery - "some catchy, maybe slightly off topic phrase" - remember Mochi - "Makes JavaScript suck less."

example
brief expl. 1 $() method, maybe - why is this different than prototype?

brief how
dom manipulation example 1 - link to demos

brief how
effects example 1 - link to demos

brief how
dom manipulation example 2 - link to demos

 - start hitting the what and whys of JQ

brief how
.get() - .post() - .load() example 1 - link to demos

...

...

 - really get into the what and whys of JQ

Thinking out loud here :).

thumblewend wrote:

Hi Rey,
This is slightly off-topic of me but I'm not sure how else to get in  
contact with you. I just want you to know that I replied to your  
direct email a few weeks ago (regarding the case study), but I think  
my email didn't get past your junk filter. Please advise if you are  
still interested, and maybe add my email to your address book so I  
get through to you.
Sorry for this email everyone else, please forgive me.

Joel Birch.

On 08/12/2006, at 12:45 AM, Rey Bango wrote:

> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.


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[Tane Piper]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying.  The jQuery site, though a
useful tool is a little dull and as you say doesn't tell you how
"fresh" things are.

I think a leaf could be taken out of what some other communities on
the web do and look at making the jQuery homepage more like a
community hub, and less like a "this is jQuery" page.

A few additional ideas to what I had before:

Have a "today" box telling you all the freshest information such as
current build of jQuery, latest/updated plugins, links to tutorials
for beginners on the front page, clearer nacvigation.

Tane
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk

On 12/7/06, Solid Source <matthew.taylor.a@...> wrote:

>
> Of particular importance to JQuery I believe is finding a way to help
> developers understand VERY OBVIOUSLY that this is not another
> Prototype/Dojo///, but rather a very different way to address the issue of
> DOM interaction in a concise not overly verbose manner. I have used every
> major(and minor for that matter) lib out there for various projects/apps and
> I am absolutely committed to JQuery after all my experimenting.
>
> You all know why ... :)
>
> The only reason it took so long for me to convert was that I saw JQuery
> initially as just another lib. JQuery was less publicized at the time and
> that made for easy oversight of it's true value.
>
> If you/we find a way to make it obvious at first glance(wherever the first
> glance lives) what we have here is special in a way you haven't experienced
> yet in your libquest(s), along with a very concise and simple(layman's
> terms) why, I feel this would be a huge benefit.
>
> So I pointed out a problem so here's a few ideas/solutions:
>
> 1. Change the slogan "New Wave Javascript" to something more along the lines
> of explaining what it does or how it does it rather than what it is.
> Everyone thinks they are new wave right? :)
>
> 2. The jquery.com homepage has this text as the first paragraph at the top,
> "jQuery is a new type of Javascript library. It is not a huge, bloated
> framework promising the best in AJAX - nor is it just a set of needlessly
> complex enhancements - jQuery is designed to change the way that you write
> Javascript.". Along with the first section heading, "What is jQuery?".
>
> Why did this not sink in for me the first few times I visited the site? I'll
> choose some libraries that I have used in the past, before converting, and
> break out their home pages ...
> 1. dojo: "Dojo is the Open Source JavaScript toolkit that makes professional
> web development better, easier, and faster."
> 2. prototype: "Prototype is a JavaScript framework that aims to ease
> development of dynamic web applications"
> 3. scriptaculous/proto: "script.aculo.us provides you with easy-to-use,
> cross-browser user interface JavaScript libraries to make your web sites and
> web applications fly."
> 4. mochikit: "Makes JavaScript suck less." - I love this one
> 5. rico: "An open-source JavaScript library for creating rich internet
> applications. Rico provides full AJAX support, drag and drop management and
> a cinematic effects library."
>
> commonalities: they all make JavaScript development better, easier, and
> faster of course :). This was what stuck everytime I crawled the web for a
> new library, so I was looking unconsciously for something to stand out other
> than the obvious.
>
> I think the JQuery homepage explanation is very honest, but it "sounded"
> like it was going to make my development better, easier, and faster. I
> didn't want to spend the time(I hit JQuery after proto,script,mochi,rico) to
> try yet another lib, especially if it is less known - probably meaning rel.
> cycles are low, community is small, plug ins obsolete. I might have taken
> the time if I had somehow "got it" without having to dig around a commit a
> lot of time. So ... long winded point comes ... if the homepage featured
> very little text describing JQuery, and a lot more functional concise
> examples, and talk of community, plugins, etc ... I think the segways from
> what do I need, to hey that looks nice, to let me try that with my problem,
> to why didn't I start using this sooner mean new JQuery users faster.
>
> closing example: JQuery homepage-marketing landing page
>
> JQuery - "some catchy, maybe slightly off topic phrase" - remember Mochi -
> "Makes JavaScript suck less."
>
> example
> brief expl. 1 $() method, maybe - why is this different than prototype?
>
> brief how
> dom manipulation example 1 - link to demos
>
> brief how
> effects example 1 - link to demos
>
> brief how
> dom manipulation example 2 - link to demos
>
>  - start hitting the what and whys of JQ
>
> brief how
> .get() - .post() - .load() example 1 - link to demos
>
> ...
>
> ...
>
>  - really get into the what and whys of JQ
>
> Thinking out loud here :).
>
>
>
>
> thumblewend wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rey,
> > This is slightly off-topic of me but I'm not sure how else to get in
> > contact with you. I just want you to know that I replied to your
> > direct email a few weeks ago (regarding the case study), but I think
> > my email didn't get past your junk filter. Please advise if you are
> > still interested, and maybe add my email to your address book so I
> > get through to you.
> > Sorry for this email everyone else, please forgive me.
> >
> > Joel Birch.
> >
> > On 08/12/2006, at 12:45 AM, Rey Bango wrote:
> >
> >> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > jQuery mailing list
> > discuss@...
> > http://jquery.com/discuss/
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7744856
> Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
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[Klaus Hartl-3]

> 4. mochikit: "Makes JavaScript suck less." - I love this one

First I liked it too, after I thought about it, I don't like the
attitude. Who said, JavaScript sucks...? I wouldn't want to program in a
language that I think it sucks, with or without an API.

I'm really wondering if the gurus think that JavaScript sucks?



-- Klaus

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[Klaus Hartl-3]

digital spaghetti schrieb:
> Here is some notes I took on my blackberry.  Sometimes I just get
> ideas like this and like to take them down.  It's for getjquery.com
> which could be a great way to promote the library.

I like that idea very much! getwhatever.com seems to become a quasi
standard for these kind of pages, think of the new getfirebug.com...

ha, gettabsplugin.com ;-)


-- Klaus

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[Solid Source]

Every Java/PHP/etc developer I have ever met hates interaction with the DOM via javascript, mostly because each browser has it's quirks and things in the JavaScript/DOM interaction don't work as consistently as say type casting a variable in Java/PHP - when you write public String myVar = "my value"; it always works, when you want to position a positioned, nested, floated, absolutely positioned element for a menu via JavaScript/DOM ... you see what I mean :).

I guess what Mochi could say to be more accurate is "Makes interacting with the client side suck less", but I guess substituting JavaScript makes more sense to a broader audience?

Klaus Hartl-3 wrote:

> 4. mochikit: "Makes JavaScript suck less." - I love this one

First I liked it too, after I thought about it, I don't like the
attitude. Who said, JavaScript sucks...? I wouldn't want to program in a
language that I think it sucks, with or without an API.

I'm really wondering if the gurus think that JavaScript sucks?



-- Klaus

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[Solid Source]

Absolutely!

Current events, recent library additions, recent links from digg/techn, dev snapshots, who uses Jquery!! (what sites etc ...) etc etc. would definitely raise the visibility of how active the community and development is.

digital spaghetti wrote:

I agree with a lot of what you are saying.  The jQuery site, though a
useful tool is a little dull and as you say doesn't tell you how
"fresh" things are.

I think a leaf could be taken out of what some other communities on
the web do and look at making the jQuery homepage more like a
community hub, and less like a "this is jQuery" page.

A few additional ideas to what I had before:

Have a "today" box telling you all the freshest information such as
current build of jQuery, latest/updated plugins, links to tutorials
for beginners on the front page, clearer nacvigation.

Tane
http://digitalspaghetti.me.uk

On 12/7/06, Solid Source <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> Of particular importance to JQuery I believe is finding a way to help
> developers understand VERY OBVIOUSLY that this is not another
> Prototype/Dojo///, but rather a very different way to address the issue of
> DOM interaction in a concise not overly verbose manner. I have used every
> major(and minor for that matter) lib out there for various projects/apps and
> I am absolutely committed to JQuery after all my experimenting.
>
> You all know why ... :)
>
> The only reason it took so long for me to convert was that I saw JQuery
> initially as just another lib. JQuery was less publicized at the time and
> that made for easy oversight of it's true value.
>
> If you/we find a way to make it obvious at first glance(wherever the first
> glance lives) what we have here is special in a way you haven't experienced
> yet in your libquest(s), along with a very concise and simple(layman's
> terms) why, I feel this would be a huge benefit.
>
> So I pointed out a problem so here's a few ideas/solutions:
>
> 1. Change the slogan "New Wave Javascript" to something more along the lines
> of explaining what it does or how it does it rather than what it is.
> Everyone thinks they are new wave right? :)
>
> 2. The jquery.com homepage has this text as the first paragraph at the top,
> "jQuery is a new type of Javascript library. It is not a huge, bloated
> framework promising the best in AJAX - nor is it just a set of needlessly
> complex enhancements - jQuery is designed to change the way that you write
> Javascript.". Along with the first section heading, "What is jQuery?".
>
> Why did this not sink in for me the first few times I visited the site? I'll
> choose some libraries that I have used in the past, before converting, and
> break out their home pages ...
> 1. dojo: "Dojo is the Open Source JavaScript toolkit that makes professional
> web development better, easier, and faster."
> 2. prototype: "Prototype is a JavaScript framework that aims to ease
> development of dynamic web applications"
> 3. scriptaculous/proto: "script.aculo.us provides you with easy-to-use,
> cross-browser user interface JavaScript libraries to make your web sites and
> web applications fly."
> 4. mochikit: "Makes JavaScript suck less." - I love this one
> 5. rico: "An open-source JavaScript library for creating rich internet
> applications. Rico provides full AJAX support, drag and drop management and
> a cinematic effects library."
>
> commonalities: they all make JavaScript development better, easier, and
> faster of course :). This was what stuck everytime I crawled the web for a
> new library, so I was looking unconsciously for something to stand out other
> than the obvious.
>
> I think the JQuery homepage explanation is very honest, but it "sounded"
> like it was going to make my development better, easier, and faster. I
> didn't want to spend the time(I hit JQuery after proto,script,mochi,rico) to
> try yet another lib, especially if it is less known - probably meaning rel.
> cycles are low, community is small, plug ins obsolete. I might have taken
> the time if I had somehow "got it" without having to dig around a commit a
> lot of time. So ... long winded point comes ... if the homepage featured
> very little text describing JQuery, and a lot more functional concise
> examples, and talk of community, plugins, etc ... I think the segways from
> what do I need, to hey that looks nice, to let me try that with my problem,
> to why didn't I start using this sooner mean new JQuery users faster.
>
> closing example: JQuery homepage-marketing landing page
>
> JQuery - "some catchy, maybe slightly off topic phrase" - remember Mochi -
> "Makes JavaScript suck less."
>
> example
> brief expl. 1 $() method, maybe - why is this different than prototype?
>
> brief how
> dom manipulation example 1 - link to demos
>
> brief how
> effects example 1 - link to demos
>
> brief how
> dom manipulation example 2 - link to demos
>
>  - start hitting the what and whys of JQ
>
> brief how
> .get() - .post() - .load() example 1 - link to demos
>
> ...
>
> ...
>
>  - really get into the what and whys of JQ
>
> Thinking out loud here :).
>
>
>
>
> thumblewend wrote:
> >
> > Hi Rey,
> > This is slightly off-topic of me but I'm not sure how else to get in
> > contact with you. I just want you to know that I replied to your
> > direct email a few weeks ago (regarding the case study), but I think
> > my email didn't get past your junk filter. Please advise if you are
> > still interested, and maybe add my email to your address book so I
> > get through to you.
> > Sorry for this email everyone else, please forgive me.
> >
> > Joel Birch.
> >
> > On 08/12/2006, at 12:45 AM, Rey Bango wrote:
> >
> >> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > jQuery mailing list
> > [e-mail]
> > http://jquery.com/discuss/
> >
> >
>
> --
> View this message in context:
> http://www.nabble.com/Efforts-to-Convert-Folks-to-jQuery-tf2774482.html#a7744856
> Sent from the JQuery mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>
>
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[Subway]

Rey Bango-2 wrote:

Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.

My inbox says yes. ;-)

My two cents:

1. There really should be a main menu on the frontpage (Download, Documentation, Community, Plugins, Tutorials ...)
2. A page where jQuery code is compared to code of other libs (real world examples)
3. jQuery Site/Project of the week on the frontpage ... and maybe plugin of the week

Fredi

[Rey Bango-2]

Hey Joel,

I'm out of town (I'm replying from the airport) and will be back on Monday.

I'm definitely interested and will buzz you when I get back into town.
I'm sorry I didn't get your reply and will provide you with a couple of
emails in case your replies are getting caught by my filters.

Thanks for following up.

Rey...

Joel Birch wrote:

> Hi Rey,
> This is slightly off-topic of me but I'm not sure how else to get in  
> contact with you. I just want you to know that I replied to your  
> direct email a few weeks ago (regarding the case study), but I think  
> my email didn't get past your junk filter. Please advise if you are  
> still interested, and maybe add my email to your address book so I  
> get through to you.
> Sorry for this email everyone else, please forgive me.
>
> Joel Birch.
>
> On 08/12/2006, at 12:45 AM, Rey Bango wrote:
>
>> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
>
>
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[Rey Bango-2]

Hey everyone, great feedback. I'm planning on aggregating all of your
suggestions and presenting them to John to see how the jQuery effort can
  be better promoted. I'll be back on Monday and will collect all your
suggestions and then send out an email for everyone to check out.

Keep the suggestions flowing so that jQuery can get the exposure it
truly deserves.

Rey

Subway wrote:

>
> Rey Bango-2 wrote:
>> Guys, some of you may know of my efforts to get jQuery more exposure.
>
> My inbox says yes. ;-)
>
> My two cents:
>
> 1. There really should be a main menu on the frontpage (Download,
> Documentation, Community, Plugins, Tutorials ...)
> 2. A page where jQuery code is compared to code of other libs (real world
> examples)
> 3. jQuery Site/Project of the week on the frontpage ... and maybe plugin of
> the week
>
> Fredi

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[Chris Domigan]

1. There really should be a main menu on the frontpage (Download,
Documentation, Community, Plugins, Tutorials ...)

I believe there is.

2. A page where jQuery code is compared to code of other libs (real world
examples)

The blog has 2 or 3 comparisons like this, but they probably need to have a home on the "main" site too.

3. jQuery Site/Project of the week on the frontpage ... and maybe plugin of
the week

Excellent idea!

I understand a new site is in the works anyway - anyone know if any of these suggestions are to be featured?

Chris

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[Citrus]

Keep in mind that Bob Ippolito is a Python guru, and he specifically wrote
mochikit to make JS behave a bit more like Python.  To him, any language
sucks if it uses C-family idioms.  :)

We can choose to be more positive, using a phrase like, "Makes programming
Web 2.0 fun!"  Or, something.

- Brian

>> 4. mochikit: "Makes JavaScript suck less." - I love this one
>
> First I liked it too, after I thought about it, I don't like the
> attitude. Who said, JavaScript sucks...? I wouldn't want to program in a
> language that I think it sucks, with or without an API.
>
> I'm really wondering if the gurus think that JavaScript sucks?
>
>
>
> -- Klaus

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[Subway]

Chris Domigan wrote:

> 1. There really should be a main menu on the frontpage (Download,
> Documentation, Community, Plugins, Tutorials ...)

I believe there is.

In the page footer, yes (and linked inside the frontpage text), but there should be a real menu near the top of the page. I honestly didn't see those footer "menu" links the first few days I started with jQuery.

Fredi

[Christopher Jordan]

Subway wrote:
> In the page footer, yes (and linked inside the frontpage text), but there
> should be a real menu near the top of the page. I honestly didn't see those
> footer "menu" links the first few days I started with jQuery.
>
> Fredi
>  

I didn't see them for the first few days either. I think they're oddly
placed. They should be more prominent. ]

Chris

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[Klaus Hartl-3]

Brian Miller schrieb:
> Keep in mind that Bob Ippolito is a Python guru, and he specifically wrote
> mochikit to make JS behave a bit more like Python.  To him, any language
> sucks if it uses C-family idioms.  :)
>
> We can choose to be more positive, using a phrase like, "Makes programming
> Web 2.0 fun!"  Or, something.
>
> - Brian

I liked Dave's (or was it Dan - cannot find it anymore) quite recent
quote. Something like:

jQuery - makes JavaScript as short as if it read your mind.


Um, I shouldn't become a marketing texter :-)

Dan/Dave, Please recap!


-- Klaus

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