Epson 4490 in Debian

[Julien BLACHE-2]

Olaf Meeuwissen <olaf.meeuwissen@...> wrote:

Hi,

>> (It's painful enough with all those rebranded scanners, so if
>> manufacturers like Epson could stick to having only one model name...)
>
> Model names for EPSON devices vary by geographic region :-(

Ah, it's even worse than I thought, then :/

> I would quite call the communication horrible, but it probably leaves
> to be desired and things get "lost in translation".

Sorry, my Politically-Correct checker missed that one :>

> If something like that would materialise, I suggest we also drag in
> the CUPS and ghostscript packagers to get the EPSON AVASYS printer
> drivers on the right track as well.
> # Johannes Meixner has already contacted us, Till Kamppeter just did.

That'd be nice indeed. I don't know if the printer drivers are
packaged in Debian, but they certainly could be once they'll be free
:)

JB.

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[Julien BLACHE-2]

Johannes Meixner <jsmeix@...> wrote:

Hi,

>> And the answer will probably be "it would confuse our users even
>> more"
>
> Of course it must be terrible confusing for the poor users,
> when they have out of the box Linux support for their devices
> in all Linux distributions on all hardware platforms ;-)

Eh, we all agree here, I guess :)

> I don't care about model names or whatever else when I get a free
> normal working driver for all those models ;-)

That one was just a counter-example ;)

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[Till Kamppeter]

Julien BLACHE wrote:
>>If something like that would materialise, I suggest we also drag in
>>the CUPS and ghostscript packagers to get the EPSON AVASYS printer
>>drivers on the right track as well.
>># Johannes Meixner has already contacted us, Till Kamppeter just did.
>
>
> That'd be nice indeed. I don't know if the printer drivers are
> packaged in Debian, but they certainly could be once they'll be free
> :)

The free printer drivers from Epson Avasys are packaged in Debian, as
they are built into ESP GhostScript ("gs-esp").

   Till

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[Olaf Meeuwissen]

First of all, apologies to all the non-interested people on sane-devel
who think this is going way off-topic.  If we should take this
discussion elsewhere, please say so, but I would like to get this
archived somewhere other than our private mailboxen.

Till Kamppeter <till.kamppeter@...> writes:

> Julien BLACHE wrote:
>>>If something like that would materialise, I suggest we also drag in
>>>the CUPS and ghostscript packagers to get the EPSON AVASYS printer
>>>drivers on the right track as well.
>>># Johannes Meixner has already contacted us, Till Kamppeter just did.
>>
>>
>> That'd be nice indeed. I don't know if the printer drivers are
>> packaged in Debian, but they certainly could be once they'll be free
>> :)
>
> The free printer drivers from Epson Avasys are packaged in Debian, as
> they are built into ESP GhostScript ("gs-esp").

True, but there is also a boatload of inkjet printer drivers (not 100%
free) that might be accommodated somehow in the long run.  I know
Johannes (added to Cc:) is looking at them, you sent me two messages
about it this morning ...

# Desparately trying to tie in the scanners so this is marginally on
# topic for sane-devel ;-P
Then there are also the all-in-ones ...

Another thought occured during lunch, maybe we should also poll Red
Hat/Fedora Core to see if they'd be interested.  IIRC, Tim Waugh is
doing their scanner and printer packages.

If several major distributions show active interest in bundling our
drivers, EPSON may get the hint and give us a (tiny) green light to
make (some of) the changes needed to make bundling easier ...

FTR, I have tried to summarise what's going on here (as well as thru
other channels) and thrown that towards my boss.  Let's see what gets
thrown back.
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[Fredrik]

Olaf Meeuwissen <olaf.meeuwissen@...> writes:
> Your scanner can scan at 4800dpi optical.  However, the support level
> of the epkowa (and epson) backend only allow settings in the list you
> included :-(  The iscan frontend does the other ones in software.
>
> To add support for resolutions > 3200 modifications in both the
> frontend as well as the backend are required.

In that case, the claimed "complete" support for this scanner (meaning
that "the backends supports everything the device can do"), in the
SANE supported scanners database, is quite an overstatement, is it
not?

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[Olaf Meeuwissen]

Fredrik Sandstrom <fs@...> writes:

> Olaf Meeuwissen <olaf.meeuwissen@...> writes:
>> Your scanner can scan at 4800dpi optical.  However, the support level
>> of the epkowa (and epson) backend only allow settings in the list you
>> included :-(  The iscan frontend does the other ones in software.
>>
>> To add support for resolutions > 3200 modifications in both the
>> frontend as well as the backend are required.
>
> In that case, the claimed "complete" support for this scanner (meaning
> that "the backends supports everything the device can do"), in the
> SANE supported scanners database, is quite an overstatement, is it
> not?

It is.  I will sync the epkowa.desc file with epson.desc that's in CVS
and some tidbits about EPSON devices in unsupported.desc and submit a
patch after iscan-2.1.0 is released.
# The idea is to have info on *all* EPSON devices in epkowa.desc.

Hope this helps,
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