Equivalent of \downbow/\upbow on bar lines?

[David Kastrup]

Hi,

I am just setting a piece for accordion.  Accordion notes have push and
pull symbols that are somewhat similar to downbow/upbow (I use the
latter for now as a somewhat dissatisfactory substitute).  Now the
problem is that it is rather common with the accordion to not change
bellows direction often.  As a consequence, the equivalents of
upbow/downbow tend to hold for whole measures.  If this is the case, the
symbol is typically placed above the bar line, or at least between
notes.  Whereas putting a direction sign directly on a note is more
commonly done when the direction is just used for a single note or
chord.

Any idea how to go about this?  It would probably be ok to just place
the sign a bit to the left of the starting note, like a \breathe tends
to be placed behind it.

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[Mats Bengtsson-4]

The simplest is to do
\mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }
and
\mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.downbow" }

    /Mats

David Kastrup wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am just setting a piece for accordion.  Accordion notes have push and
> pull symbols that are somewhat similar to downbow/upbow (I use the
> latter for now as a somewhat dissatisfactory substitute).  Now the
> problem is that it is rather common with the accordion to not change
> bellows direction often.  As a consequence, the equivalents of
> upbow/downbow tend to hold for whole measures.  If this is the case, the
> symbol is typically placed above the bar line, or at least between
> notes.  Whereas putting a direction sign directly on a note is more
> commonly done when the direction is just used for a single note or
> chord.
>
> Any idea how to go about this?  It would probably be ok to just place
> the sign a bit to the left of the starting note, like a \breathe tends
> to be placed behind it.
>
>  

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[Francisco Vila-5]

2009/10/15 Mats Bengtsson <mats.bengtsson@...>:
> The simplest is to do
> \mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }
> and
> \mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.downbow" }
>
>   /Mats

For some reason this gives an oversized glyph; you could also try the following

  \override BreathingSign #'text = \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }
  \breathe

and then

  \revert BreathingSign #'text
  \breathe

if you need standard breathes.
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[David Kastrup]

Francisco Vila <paconet.org@...> writes:

> 2009/10/15 Mats Bengtsson <mats.bengtsson@...>:
>> The simplest is to do
>> \mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }
>> and
>> \mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.downbow" }
>>
>>   /Mats
>
> For some reason this gives an oversized glyph; you could also try the following
>
>   \override BreathingSign #'text = \markup { \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }
>   \breathe
>
> and then
>
>   \revert BreathingSign #'text
>   \breathe
>
> if you need standard breathes.

Looks like a case for \once\override.  Anyway, can breathing signs be
placed on bar lines?

The advantage this has over marks is that breathing signs are per-voice.

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[Mats Bengtsson-4]

Francisco Vila wrote:

> 2009/10/15 Mats Bengtsson <mats.bengtsson@...>:
>  
>> The simplest is to do
>> \mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }
>> and
>> \mark \markup{ \musicglyph #"scripts.downbow" }
>>
>>   /Mats
>>    
>
> For some reason this gives an oversized glyph;

For the simple reason that rehearsal marks use font-size = +2 by default.
Definitions like the following may be useful:
push = \markup{ \override #'(font-size . 0) \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }

which you then can use like
\relative c'{ c d e f \mark \push | g e c2 }

     /Mats


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[Steve Martin-4]

Mats Bengtsson <mats.bengtsson <at> ee.kth.se> writes:

> push = \markup{ \override #'(font-size . 0) \musicglyph #"scripts.upbow" }
>

I like it!
I always thought the upbow was too big in comparison to the downbow,
plus the articulation is now drawn above the fingering, not below it.




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