Error message on upgrade

[dhottinger]

I upgraded our version of mailman from 2.0.x to the newest release of  
2.1.12rc2 using ./configure --prefix=/var/mailman  
--with-cgi-gid=apache --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.4.  I started  
mailman using the mailmanctl script.  As soon as I did, I started  
getting the following error from the qrunner:
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 89, in ?
     from Mailman.Handlers import HandlerAPI
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 26, in ?
     from Mailman.pythonlib.StringIO import StringIO
ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO.

I did some googling and found quite some people with the same error,  
but no real fixes.  Does anyone have a fix for this?  Im running  
2.6.20-1.2944.fc6PAE #1 SMP Tue Apr 10 18:21:36 EDT 2007 i686 i686  
i386 GNU/Linux, on Fedora.

thanks,

ddh



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[Mark Sapiro-3]

dhottinger@... wrote:

>I upgraded our version of mailman from 2.0.x to the newest release of  
>2.1.12rc2 using ./configure --prefix=/var/mailman  
>--with-cgi-gid=apache --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.4.  I started  
>mailman using the mailmanctl script.  As soon as I did, I started  
>getting the following error from the qrunner:
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 89, in ?
>     from Mailman.Handlers import HandlerAPI
>   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 26, in ?
>     from Mailman.pythonlib.StringIO import StringIO
>ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO.

The latest official release is 2.1.12, not 2.1.12rc2. There was at
least one significant bug fix between rc2 and the final.

As far as the above error is concerned, qrunners are no longer run by
cron in mailman 2.1.x. cron is running /var/mailman/cron/qrunner which
is from 2.0 and clearly won't work. You need to update Mailman's
crontab to run the 2.1 cron jobs only.

Actually, your 2.1.12rc1 Mailman is probably working fine. It's just
that
/var/mailman/cron/qrunner should be removed and the entry that runs it
removed from Mailman's crontab.

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[dhottinger]

Quoting Mark Sapiro <mark@...>:

> dhottinger@... wrote:
>
>> I upgraded our version of mailman from 2.0.x to the newest release of
>> 2.1.12rc2 using ./configure --prefix=/var/mailman
>> --with-cgi-gid=apache --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.4.  I started
>> mailman using the mailmanctl script.  As soon as I did, I started
>> getting the following error from the qrunner:
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 89, in ?
>>     from Mailman.Handlers import HandlerAPI
>>   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 26, in ?
>>     from Mailman.pythonlib.StringIO import StringIO
>> ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO.
>
>
> The latest official release is 2.1.12, not 2.1.12rc2. There was at
> least one significant bug fix between rc2 and the final.
>
> As far as the above error is concerned, qrunners are no longer run by
> cron in mailman 2.1.x. cron is running /var/mailman/cron/qrunner which
> is from 2.0 and clearly won't work. You need to update Mailman's
> crontab to run the 2.1 cron jobs only.
>
> Actually, your 2.1.12rc1 Mailman is probably working fine. It's just
> that
> /var/mailman/cron/qrunner should be removed and the entry that runs it
> removed from Mailman's crontab.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark@...>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
>

Mark,
Thanks for the reply.  I ran mailmanctl and was still getting the same  
error.  I'll try recompiling again with 2.1.12.  Does the cron  
directory not get replaced when running make install?



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[Mark Sapiro-3]

dhottinger@... wrote:

>I upgraded our version of mailman from 2.0.x to the newest release of  
>2.1.12rc2 using ./configure --prefix=/var/mailman  
>--with-cgi-gid=apache --with-python=/usr/bin/python2.4.


I noted in another reply that 2.1.12rc2 is not the latest version.

Also, see the "Update - March 2009:" note at
http://wiki.list.org/x/pYA9 about a Mailman 2.1.12/Python 2.4
incompatibility issue that may affect you.

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[Mark Sapiro-3]

dhottinger@... wrote:

>Thanks for the reply.  I ran mailmanctl and was still getting the same
>error.  I'll try recompiling again with 2.1.12.  Does the cron
>directory not get replaced when running make install?


Files with the same names get replaced and new files get added, but
old, no longer used files don't get removed.

Also Mailman's crontab does not get updated. You need to install a new
one based on cron/crontab.in.

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[dhottinger]

Quoting Mark Sapiro <mark@...>:

> dhottinger@... wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the reply.  I ran mailmanctl and was still getting the same
>> error.  I'll try recompiling again with 2.1.12.  Does the cron
>> directory not get replaced when running make install?
>
>
> Files with the same names get replaced and new files get added, but
> old, no longer used files don't get removed.
>
> Also Mailman's crontab does not get updated. You need to install a new
> one based on cron/crontab.in.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark@...>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
>

Can I just copy cron/crontab.in from the dist?  Also, I start  
mailmanctl and it starts:

20919 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 ./mailmanctl start
20942 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
20943 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
20944 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
20945 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
20946 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
20948 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
20951 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
20952 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
--runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s

Then I start getting these errors from the mailman:

Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 89, in ?
     from Mailman.Handlers import HandlerAPI
   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 26, in ?
     from Mailman.pythonlib.StringIO import StringIO
ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO

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[Mark Sapiro-3]

dhottinger@... wrote:
>
>Can I just copy cron/crontab.in from the dist?


It depends where you put it. crontab.in in a user crontab so it needs
to go in /var/spool/cron/mailman. If that's where the existing crontab
is, that should be fine. If the existing crontab is somewhere like
/etc/cron.d/mailman, the easiest thing is to remove that one and
install crontab.in in /var/spool/cron/mailman. If you want to put it
in /etc/cron.d/mailman, you need to add the user name (mailman) in
between the times and the command on all command lines.

>Also, I start  
>mailmanctl and it starts:
>
>20919 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 ./mailmanctl start
>20942 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=ArchRunner:0:1 -s
>20943 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=BounceRunner:0:1 -s
>20944 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=CommandRunner:0:1 -s
>20945 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=IncomingRunner:0:1 -s
>20946 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=NewsRunner:0:1 -s
>20948 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=OutgoingRunner:0:1 -s
>20951 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=VirginRunner:0:1 -s
>20952 ?        S      0:00 /usr/bin/python2.4 /var/mailman/bin/qrunner  
>--runner=RetryRunner:0:1 -s

Which is exactly correct.


>Then I start getting these errors from the mailman:
>
>Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/var/mailman/cron/qrunner", line 89, in ?
>     from Mailman.Handlers import HandlerAPI
>   File "/var/mailman/Mailman/Handlers/HandlerAPI.py", line 26, in ?
>     from Mailman.pythonlib.StringIO import StringIO
>ImportError: No module named pythonlib.StringIO


And this error doesn't come from Mailman 2.1.12 at all. It comes from
the 2.0.x /var/mailman/cron/qrunner which is still being run by cron,
and which no longer works because of other changes.

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