Nabble - Eugene Shaolin Kung Fu Club

test

2009-10-31T07:22:33Z

testing. =P

Re: Tournament Results

2008-12-09T17:10:45Z

Ditto, I want to hear about your conquests... er... yeah, right.

Sorry I've been in a shit mood this term, hopefully if I stick to eugene the next few months I will feel better. I need to come get beat up.

Tournament Results

2008-12-06T22:22:10Z

Hey guys, how did the tournament go? So far Japan is awesome, I hardly ever got to big cities....and here I find myself partying in Tokyo.

hey guys

2008-11-04T22:34:07Z

Hey. I know it's a moot point but I am leaving a message to let you know I'm sorry for not coming. I've been really down lately, not necessarily depressed, just down. I spent most of my freetime the first two weeks of the term looking for jobs and that's a lot of free time considering I'm doing 6 credits. 10 applications and 8 walk-in asks later and I still have no job, and combined with a lot of other stuff, I've jsut been bleh. I havent been coming because I have been sincerely disinterested. Not because I dont want to learn kung fu or hang with you guys, but because personally I feel like I am in a transition stage and going to class 7:30 when I just wasnt motivated has not been working. I probably wont be coming to class, because I just cant do it right now. I know that's a lame excuse, but there it is. If you dont all hate me by now, I would like to visit with you, I just have some bleh in me that I cant shake right now.

Hope things are going well. Glad Ric got real socks that dont ahve flower patterns and puppies.

Re: Wu Bu Quan Video

2008-08-20T07:14:59Z

Woohoo, sorry for the non-response, didnt watch it til now. Very nice. Your mission: find me a video of all (10?) roads, aka the stuff we were doing before I left. I am really interested in learning the rest, I need something to work out with and currently doing the two legs of the star form 10 times in a row is getting.. well.. i love king fu.... but, I want something new. PS - stuck in hillsboro = no fun. To tacoma I will go, soon I hope, but if plans dont formulate before september first my plan B is to do 4 credits in eugene and audit the metals class for studio access, so I will be doing da kung-fu fall term in that case! Woot.

-Doug (The Leo)

Wu Bu Quan Video

2008-08-11T22:50:18Z

This is the best demonstration video I have seen of Wu Bu Quan. You will notice a slight difference from what we do. He does not turn back and go the other direction when he switches sides. If you watch closely he transitions from the opening grab (or block depending on preference) and continues onward. We don't have the space to practice this way nor is one method more correct than the other.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdadeLUnEIg

Re: kung fu diet?

2008-07-18T07:32:34Z

Hmmm.. This doesn't sound like something I said. You sure? From what I understand the typical Thai diet is extremely varied with a lot of seafood (squid... jerky... blech..), tons of fruits and vegetables, and yes, rice and beans (various). One of the keys I think is that they don't typically sit down to three bit ol' means a day but instead eat little bits throughout the day. Afraid there's not much of a secret here, eat healthy, don't pig out, work real hard.

As far as the typical diet for a Shaolin monk, it depends on the period. At more successful times, it probably would have been quite comparable to the diets of any middle class folk in that region (lot of rice, vegetables, etc) and they may or may not have been vegetarians at any given time (they were allowed to eat red meat by the emperor at one point). In harder times it would have been literally whatever they could get their hands on. There are a few stories in American Shaolin regarding food and the social customs that have grown up around hardship concerning food (The mountainous regions of China have a long, fine history of crippling poverty). One story involves one monk's shame at having eaten rat when he was younger and living at the temple. This apparently was not uncommon for young monks with almost no means of support and I'm sure that it's not isolated to modern times. The diet that would have been recommended by the scholars at Shaolin during one of its high point would likely have been vegetarian, high in proteins from mung and other beans, and balanced according to traditional chinese medicine theory (there are yin and yang foods, flavors, etc and there's a whole art to cooking in support of balance).

Re: knives!

2008-07-18T07:21:26Z

I cut you bish!

kung fu diet?

2008-07-17T10:19:40Z

Questionnnnnnn.

I remember you mentioning, Brian, that in... THailand?.... because of the economy all they have to eat is rice and beans, but because of the type of rice and beans a protien is created and they actually build a lot of muscle when they work out. What type of beans are these? Rice? I'm curious.

Second part would be, what was the standard diet of a shaolin kung fu practicioner?

Made a second knife. Still stuck in hillsboro. Boooooo!

Re: knives!

2008-06-16T21:09:00Z

balance is really good, handle is waterproof by nature(thus blood proof). Solid blade. Dad's friend opened a few beer bottles with it and there's not even a scratch. Its preeeeety cool;)

Re: knives!

2008-06-15T22:41:12Z

thats COOL. like the style? how's it work? killed anybody with it yet?

Ric

knives!

2008-06-15T21:22:08Z

Made a knife, wanted to show you guys:)

More or less all me. The guy I am apprenticeing with did about 5-10% to fine tune some parts, but its all my shape and size decisions and my effort. Not bad for my first knife;)

Re: Big news, check the website!

2008-05-20T11:13:43Z

yeah, you were already signed up, bub.

Re: Big news, check the website!

2008-05-19T21:09:19Z

I'll help.

Ric

Big news, check the website!

2008-05-19T20:01:29Z

Ok, first of all.. Congrats to the guys who got their belts. You did good.

Second, I'm reducing the cost of the class to encourage more people to join. It's now $45 a month for full membership. Once a week is still $30 because half-time is not to be encouraged.

Finally, I'm going to start another class session for kids and parents that will be the same nights, right before our class (most likely). It will be for ages 9 and older (I'm hoping for mostly teen and pre-teen kids who can take it a bit more seriously) and parents who are brave enough to sign up too and train right alongside their kids will get a free membership to the adult class (so that they could get two hours a night if they like). Siblings also get a deal. Anyone interested in helping to teach this class, let me know. So if anyone knows people with kids, talk to em. I'd like to start up with at least a few kids that aren't mine.

-B

Re: Little red boxing

2008-05-12T14:53:09Z

Batman? Let's look at the facts: Agile.. Skilled in the martial arts.. Mysterious (ie- difficult to understand)... The name Bruce Wen (Wayne?)..

You be the judge..

Actually, I like his version of Xiao Hong Quan. It's obviously got a couple different interpretations here and there, but the sequence is correct and the differences (eg- the upward punch that goes way up above the head, the right hand low punch before shrinking step, etc) are ones that I've seen before so there's nothing real off the wall in there. His Chang Quan had a lot of elements I'd expect to see in any Long Fist, but I didn't immediately recognize the sequence.

Re: Rank Test- term clarifications

2008-05-09T09:58:34Z

sure.

Re: Rank Test- term clarifications

2008-05-08T11:34:16Z

Oh, well, yeah, of course. THat is definitly understood, I just meant for the purpose of our test, how would be a good way to demonstrate that? Just pull their arm across and do it...?

Re: Rank Test- term clarifications

2008-05-08T10:29:23Z

The name in pinyin is Xiao Hong Quan. I'm really partial to this Sifu's rendition of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dFKKw9V5zc&mode=related&search=

If you look around you'll see many variations on this form and a lot of personal interpretation going on. That's not so much because people have got it wrong but because the form is so old it's had lots of time for different teachers' and schools' flavors to seep into it. That's a good thing in my opinion.

Re: Rank Test- term clarifications

2008-05-08T10:25:44Z

Arm drag or something akin to it, yeah. With the Qin Na I really prefer to focus on taking techniques that show up rather than trying to set up specific ones. For example, if in the clinch or a scramble of some sort I find that my thumb is on the back of their hand and I've grabbed their wrist, I'll go for outside wrist lock almost immediately because I've spent so much time doing it that the hand position for it happens really naturally. Same sorta thing with Two Children. It's more about recognizing the position and taking what shows up. For example; say you started an arm drag with every intention of going to your opponent's back, but they pull away and you find yourself holding their hand and standing behind their arm.. bam! Bend forward, barring their arm because you recognize that place. Another one I get a lot is when someone goes for something like Face th Heavens and fall down (ie- they step behind you, but leave their arm in front) and doesn't have control of my posture. In that situation, I just bend forward and bar their arm right away to get control back.

Re: Rank Test- term clarifications

2008-05-08T09:14:36Z

Clarification: For the Two Children worship the Buddha, are there any commonly accepted ways to get behind the arm? Elbow drag? start by doing a Wild Chicken cross grab and then just step in? I know if I was defending with it I'd be able to do it but I have to practice this on my lonesome and wanted to clarify. Thanks;)

Little red boxing

2008-05-08T00:35:47Z

found a link to the form... some differances i saw but it is close enough to get the order of how we do it memorized plus the dude reminds me of the fried in "american shaolin" so i like it http://www.expertvillage.com/video-series/5309_shaolin-boxing.htm

Ric

Re: Rank Test- term clarifications

2008-05-08T00:25:37Z

Thank you sir!
the pictures help. can you post a link to "small red boxing" or the name in phonetic Chinese?

Ric

Rank Test- term clarifications

2008-05-07T20:11:58Z

Hokay.. So in response to a bit of confusion re: Shuai Jiao and Qin Na terminology, I decided to write up a post describing the ones that we'll be looking at for the Blue an Purple tests. If you forget the old-style name for something when I ask for it, at least remember the more general name so I don't have to show you what you're about to show me, eh? I'll try to grievously pirate some images from sites of identical or similar techniques to give some visual aid.

On the Blue Sash test:

White ape worships Buddha (AKA- Outside wrist lock). Takes the opponents hand and folds it back at the wrist, rotating it toward their outside while pulling the wrist downward. Should cause them to either drop to a knee in front of you or fall to one side, depending on how much rotation you add.

Wild chicken spreads wings (AKA - Inside wrist lock). Folds the opponent's hand back at the wrist, rotating it toward their inside so their fingers point straight up, then turning them forward, toward them while pulling the wrist in. The rotational opposite of White ape worships.

Two children worship Buddha (Aka- Inside body arm bar). Standing behind the opponent's arm, you capture their wrist or hand, then bow forward through their elbow with your shoulder, causing them to likewise bow forward (hence the name). Almost always immediately followed up with a sweep or other control. Can't find a picture of this one so you'll just have to freakin' remember.

Scissors sweep - As in the scissor sweep from the star form. Step into a front scissor stance, catching the opponent's foot while your hands drive their shoulders back the other way.

Elbow drop and scissors sweep - Ok, this was a confusing name and it's my fault. The elbow drop portion of the throw is where your opposite hand comes in to the inside of the opponent's elbow while the same-side hand has their wrist, you bend their arm and try to press the point of their elbow into the ground behind them. The scissors sweep simply means to step behind them and catch their foot as you do this so they have a harder time stepping back out of it. Had I been following my usual terminology, I would have called that an outside bow stance sweep. Here's a picture of the arm portion of the throw. I couldn't find a variation with a sweep.

Two leg uproot - This is what the rest of the known universe calls a double-leg takedown. There are numerous variations. I care about the ability to change levels well, maintain posture, and control the takedown. If you don't know what I mean, just Google double-leg takedown.

On the purple sash test (Justin.. this means you..)

Send the devil to heaven.

This one.. Aikidoists call it Sankyo, meaning third technique.. How boring is that?

Lion worships buddha

This one, minus the wrist lock that Dr. Yang has masterfully applied with his rear hand. I tend to put my hand on the back of their head in this one, but that's just me. I suspect his form is more technically correct. This starts by bringing your opposite hand up under their elbow while the same -side hand holds their wrist (as if to arm drag), but then they raise their elbow so you shoot through and wrap the elbow, while turning the body to move them forward off their center.

Twist the wing

This one, minus the extra wrist english. You capture their wrist, bring it up next to their shoulder and just to the outside, then support the arm with your opposite arm and pull their wrist down behind them to rotate against their shoulder.

Face the heavens and fall down

Like the guys on the right. Step behind your opponent's shoulder, put your arm or hand under their chin and make them look up, then knock them down backward.

Their are some Shuai Jiao on the purple test that Justin and I will need to review the names for because trying to describe or find pictures will likely only add to the confusion. They're simple throws that we've done a lot though, so don't stress.

Re: whoops! May 13th

2008-05-06T22:50:13Z

I really resent having to miss class so much this term. 16 credits was a bad idea.

Re: whoops! May 13th

2008-05-05T12:26:30Z

Good thing cause I am out of town then. In fact, I will be missing thursday class, sadly, so I'll practice extra.... not sure if I am ready... heh.

eh, anyways, may 13th
woot
-Doug

Re: not necessarily applicable

2008-04-27T23:55:01Z

Hee hee. That's neat.

I was about to say that I want some of that armor, but no, then you guys would all beat the crap out of me.

Re: shaolin health?

2008-04-25T13:52:19Z

I do have a pretty good book on cooking and diet from the standpoint of traditional chinese medicine, lemme see if I can find it. On the other hand, if you want to lose some weight it's a pretty simple formula, really;

-eat right, reduce your calorie intake
-increase the number of calories you burn by building muscle and using it more every day.

Re: shaolin health?

2008-04-24T23:55:25Z

ok for a real response. you want to cut back on SOME carbs. not all of them, and sugars. eating carrots and celery are good because they burn more cals then they have so you lose some weight just by eating them.
ok to sound like a nerd fro a minute it's all about balance. http://www.honestfoodguide.org/downloads/21407.0_HonestFoodGuide.pdf has a real food guide on it that i have been trying to follow and it has made me feel much better.

hope that helps a little
Ric

Ric

Re: shaolin health?

2008-04-24T22:44:36Z

Yeah, I'm totally crying on the inside.

Ramen noodles are apparently a good way of tricking your digestive system into thinking it's getting nutrition. I heard that somebody died of malnutrition because he ate nothing but ramen noodles. Isn't that neat?

Re: shaolin health?

2008-04-24T21:02:23Z

haha. Ok. That was sarcasm. Forget that it doesn't translate into text;)

Re: shaolin health?

2008-04-23T22:19:17Z

Your attempt at humor is painfully ineffective..

Re: shaolin health?

2008-04-23T22:05:34Z

A pocket knife, a spoon, and some duct tape.

shaolin health?

2008-04-23T20:43:53Z

So I know the diet in asia is perfect for this, but for those of us surviving on student wages in the US, what's a good source for nutrition guides?

More specifically. If I wanted to drop 10lbs of excess body fat, what would be an awesome way to do that?

Re: Cool short documentary on Bokator

2008-04-22T09:04:47Z

Yeah, welcome to southeast asia. This is what you look like when you eat basically rice, fish, and veggies and train every day. nothin but muscle.