Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor

[trevordixon]

I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find very useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that it's at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10, but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.

Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they save, it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original.

This could be useful for:

• Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess with.
• Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular development environment.
• Perhaps as your main editor someday.

Future features might include:

• Ability to open and save to your hard drive.
• Ability to open and save to Dropbox.
• Open to suggestions.

See it at: http://lily.sytes.net

Let me know how it works for you!

[Nils Hammerfest]

Very good!

I think this will benefit many people. I always wanted to quickly share some notes with other people.
Like pastebin.com for music!

And think of the possibilites:
Wikipedia and other sites use Lilypond to show (snippets of) music.

If you create a modular editor like TinyMCE it could be the web standard to edit lilypond for websites, blogs etc.

Nils




On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 01:51:46 -0800 (PST)
trevordixon <trevordixon@...> wrote:

>
> I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find very
> useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that it's
> at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as
> expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested
> it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10,
> but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
>
>
> Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they save,
> it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original.
>
>
> This could be useful for:
>
>
> Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess with.
> Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular development
> environment.
> Perhaps as your main editor someday.
>
>
> Future features might include:
>
>
> Ability to open and save to your hard drive.
> Ability to open and save to Dropbox.
> Open to suggestions.
>
>
> See it at:  http://lily.sytes.net http://lily.sytes.net 
>
>
> Let me know how it works for you!
>
> --
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[Nils Hammerfest]

Just tested it. Good work, again.
It even accepted the font change.

http://lily.sytes.net/keorwxc4n29/2



On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 01:51:46 -0800 (PST)
trevordixon <trevordixon@...> wrote:

>
> I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find very
> useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that it's
> at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as
> expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested
> it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10,
> but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
>
>
> Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they save,
> it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original.
>
>
> This could be useful for:
>
>
> Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess with.
> Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular development
> environment.
> Perhaps as your main editor someday.
>
>
> Future features might include:
>
>
> Ability to open and save to your hard drive.
> Ability to open and save to Dropbox.
> Open to suggestions.
>
>
> See it at:  http://lily.sytes.net http://lily.sytes.net 
>
>
> Let me know how it works for you!
>
> --
> View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Experimental-Web-based-Lilypond-Editor-tp33242123p33242123.html
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[flup2]

Hello,

It works fine for me (using Chrome and Safari).

Do you plan to update lilypond engine to the last stable release (2.14) ?

I also tried weblily.net that's unfortunately stuck with 2.12.

Philippe

[trevordixon]

Yes, I will upgrade it. 2.12 is what's in Ubuntu's repository, but I think an upgrade to 2.14 will be trivial. I'll do that soon. Will it almost always be desirable to use the latest LilyPond release, or would it benefit a lot of people to be able to choose from multiple versions of LilyPond?

flup2 wrote:

Hello,

It works fine for me (using Chrome and Safari).

Do you plan to update lilypond engine to the last stable release (2.14) ?

I also tried weblily.net that's unfortunately stuck with 2.12.

Philippe

On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:51 AM, trevordixon wrote:

Let me know how it works for you!

Excellent work.

I'll pass it on to the French users list.

Cheers,

MS

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[Marc Hohl]

Am 01.02.2012 11:18, schrieb trevordixon:
> Yes, I will upgrade it. 2.12 is what's in Ubuntu's repository, but I think an
> upgrade to 2.14 will be trivial. I'll do that soon. Will it almost always be
> desirable to use the latest LilyPond release, or would it benefit a lot of
> people to be able to choose from multiple versions of LilyPond?

Great work!

If I were to decide, the latest stable and perhaps the latest unstable
would be great to work with...

Regards,

Marc


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[Xavier Scheuer]

On 1 February 2012 11:08, Nils <list@...> wrote:
> Just tested it. Good work, again.

Yeah, great work.
Is this web-based Lily editor a free software too?  It would be nice
if we would be able to install it for instance on our own server.

> It even accepted the font change.
>
> http://lily.sytes.net/keorwxc4n29/2

It accepted the font change but AFAICS TeX Gyre Pagella is not installed
on the server and the font displayed is not TeX Gyre Pagella, it's a
"fall-back" font (sans serif).

Cheers,
Xavier

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[Helge Kruse-3]

2012/2/1 trevordixon <trevordixon@...>:
> expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested
> it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10,
> but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
>

> Let me know how it works for you!
>
It doesn't work here. I tried Internet Explorer 9.0 and Firefox Portable 7.0.

I see on the right pane no PDF. When I click on Preview, Save, or
Download PDF nothing happens. I am behind a firewall. Can this affect
the experience?

Regards,
Helge

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[Helge Kruse-3]

>> Let me know how it works for you!
>>
> It doesn't work here. I tried Internet Explorer 9.0 and Firefox Portable 7.0.
>
> I see on the right pane no PDF. When I click on Preview, Save, or
> Download PDF nothing happens. I am behind a firewall. Can this affect
> the experience?

Just installed Firefox 10.0. Still doesn't work though.

Helge

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[temp files]

On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Helge Kruse <helge.kruse@...> wrote:

> 2012/2/1 trevordixon <trevordixon@...>:
> expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested
> it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10,
> but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
>
>
> Let me know how it works for you!
>
>

It works for a simple file on my iPad2 (iOS 5.0.1) using Safari. Could be interesting!

Stan


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[trevordixon]

Now upgraded to 2.14.2.

flup2 wrote:

Hello,

It works fine for me (using Chrome and Safari).

Do you plan to update lilypond engine to the last stable release (2.14) ?

I also tried weblily.net that's unfortunately stuck with 2.12.

Philippe

[trevordixon]

I installed tex-gyre on the server. Now does it use the right font?

Xavier Scheuer wrote:

On 1 February 2012 11:08, Nils <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Just tested it. Good work, again.

Yeah, great work.
Is this web-based Lily editor a free software too?  It would be nice
if we would be able to install it for instance on our own server.

> It even accepted the font change.
>
> http://lily.sytes.net/keorwxc4n29/2

It accepted the font change but AFAICS TeX Gyre Pagella is not installed
on the server and the font displayed is not TeX Gyre Pagella, it's a
"fall-back" font (sans serif).

Cheers,
Xavier

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[trevordixon]

Yes, it's very likely your firewall is crippling it. I'll see if I can tweak some things to make it work from behind a firewall.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 4:53 AM, Helge Kruse <helge.kruse@...> wrote:

>> Let me know how it works for you!
>>
> It doesn't work here. I tried Internet Explorer 9.0 and Firefox Portable 7.0.
>
> I see on the right pane no PDF. When I click on Preview, Save, or
> Download PDF nothing happens. I am behind a firewall. Can this affect
> the experience?

Just installed Firefox 10.0. Still doesn't work though.

Helge

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[Tim Reeves-3]

> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 12:51:18 -0600
> From: Stan Sanderson <stansand@...>
> To: trevordixon <trevordixon@...>
> Cc: "lilypond-user@..." <lilypond-user@...>
> Subject: Re: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor
> Message-ID: <5BAA1542-E5B8-497F-B717-B861EDAA534F@...>
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii
>
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:32 AM, Helge Kruse <helge.kruse@...>

wrote:
>
> > 2012/2/1 trevordixon <trevordixon@...>:
> > expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only
tested
> > it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9
or 10,
> > but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
> >
> >
> > Let me know how it works for you!
> >
> >
>
> It works for a simple file on my iPad2 (iOS 5.0.1) using Safari. Could
be
> interesting!
>
> Stan


Works fine for me on Chrome 16 but does not seem to work on Opera 11.61.

Should be very useful I think.

I agree with whomever said it would be good to be able to run the latest
stable as well as the latest unstable, but I think running the latest
unstable means a lot of maintenance for the webpage maintainer and might
not be practical.


Tim Reeves

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[-Eluze]

trevordixon wrote:

I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find very useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that it's at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10, but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.</p>
<p>Let me know how it works for you!</p>

nice on firefox - thanks!

does not work with opera 11.61 on windows(7), though

Eluze

[Helge Kruse-2]

Am 01.02.2012 20:03, schrieb Trevor:
> Yes, it's very likely your firewall is crippling it. I'll see if I can
> tweak some things to make it work from behind a firewall.
>

Ah. I see, you use TCP connections to port 3001 to communicate with
"socket.io". If this is a fixed port, I could talk with our IT.

But it would be nice when this could also be mapped to port 80. Talking
with our IT would not help other guys.

Helge

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[Urs Liska-4]

Am 01.02.2012 11:45, schrieb Marc Hohl:

> Am 01.02.2012 11:18, schrieb trevordixon:
>> Yes, I will upgrade it. 2.12 is what's in Ubuntu's repository, but I
>> think an
>> upgrade to 2.14 will be trivial. I'll do that soon. Will it almost
>> always be
>> desirable to use the latest LilyPond release, or would it benefit a
>> lot of
>> people to be able to choose from multiple versions of LilyPond?
>
> Great work!
>
> If I were to decide, the latest stable and perhaps the latest unstable
> would be great to work with...

I'd second this. To be able to choose from the latest stable and
unstable release would be perfect.
As long as this isn't possible, I'd suggest always to use the "latest
stable release".

Best
Urs

>
> Regards,
>
> Marc
>
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[Jan Terje Augestad]

Hi,

A web-based editor is GREAT! I've wanted a web-based notation software for a years, and this is really perfect. This would definitely be my main editor if it met the following (very few) criteria:

* Use of the latest stable release

* Ability to open and save to hard drive or Dropbox (if you were able to create accounts which linked to a Dropbox account/folder, that'd be perfect)

I use two different computers nearly every day, and it would be very nice to always keep the same setup on each computer. Not to mention being able to do quick projects on iPad. 

This is a very exciting project, and I really hope you are able to continue to develop this into a stable release one day. I will gladly volunteer as a tester if you need it.

Enthusiastically,

JanTerje

PS. I may add that I'm a very recent Lilypond convert, so I don't have more than a couple of months experience. 

I had also the firewall issue, and wasn't able to preview or save anything.

On 1. feb. 2012, at 10:51, trevordixon wrote:

I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find very useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that it's at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10, but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.

Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they save, it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original.

This could be useful for:

• Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess with.
• Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular development environment.
• Perhaps as your main editor someday.

Future features might include:

• Ability to open and save to your hard drive.
• Ability to open and save to Dropbox.
• Open to suggestions.

See it at: http://lily.sytes.net

Let me know how it works for you!

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[Markus W. Kropp]

look at this

http://www.scorio.com/de/web/scorio/

it´s webbased, too, but not as good as lilypond. lilypond rules!

greets, musix


Am Wed, 01 Feb 2012 23:38:32 +0100
schrieb Jan Terje Augestad <janterje@...>:

> Hi,
>
> A web-based editor is GREAT! I've wanted a web-based notation software for a years, and this is really perfect. This would definitely be my main editor
> if it met the following (very few) criteria:
>
> * Use of the latest stable release
> * Ability to open and save to hard drive or Dropbox (if you were able to create accounts which linked to a Dropbox account/folder, that'd be perfect)
>
> I use two different computers nearly every day, and it would be very nice to always keep the same setup on each computer. Not to mention being able to
> do quick projects on iPad.
>
> This is a very exciting project, and I really hope you are able to continue to develop this into a stable release one day. I will gladly volunteer as a
> tester if you need it.
>
>
> Enthusiastically,
> JanTerje
>
> PS. I may add that I'm a very recent Lilypond convert, so I don't have more than a couple of months experience.
>
>
>
> I had also the firewall issue, and wasn't able to preview or save anything.
>
> On 1. feb. 2012, at 10:51, trevordixon wrote:
>
> > I've been working on something I think the LilyPond community may find very useful: a web-based editor. Before you check it out, keep in mind that
> > it's at a pre-alpha stage. It's likely that certain things won't work as expected, and it will probably crash and be down at times. I've only tested
> > it in Chrome 15 and Firefox 9. It should work in Internet Explorer 9 or 10, but will almost certainly not work in IE8 or earlier.
> >
> > Saving will create a new URL that you can share with others. If they save, it will be saved as a new revision, preserving your original.
> >
> > This could be useful for:
> >
> > Posting example code that you'd like others to look at and mess with.
> > Quick projects when you don't have access to your regular development environment.
> > Perhaps as your main editor someday.
> > Future features might include:
> >
> > Ability to open and save to your hard drive.
> > Ability to open and save to Dropbox.
> > Open to suggestions.
> > See it at: http://lily.sytes.net
> >
> > Let me know how it works for you!
> >
> >
> > View this message in context: Experimental Web-based Lilypond Editor
> > Sent from the Gnu - Lilypond - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > lilypond-user@...
> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
>

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