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by Andrew Turner-5 :: Rate this Message:

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I am adding GeoRSS support to some of my projects and wanted to get
some clarification on some of the other meta data that can be
optionally included in a georss:where node.

Relationship Tag and Feature Type Tag are two examples not really
specified in the verbage on the site, or in the GML documentation.
Should they be used as such:

<georss:where>
  <gml:featuretype>location mountaintop alps</gml:featuretype>
  <gml:relationship>is-located-at</gml:relationship>
  <gml:Point>
    <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
  </gml:Point>
</georss:where>

or
  <gml:featuretypetag>location, mountain top, alps</gml:featuretypetag>

Seems worthwhile to specify/suggest a format for multiple values
within the tags for parsers to know how to handle the values.

Andrew

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Re: Explanation of other meta data?

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featuretype and relationship are in the georss namespace, not the gml  
namespace.

As far as whether to use a gml:Point or a georss:point, I guess  
that's up to you but if you're not using any other GML and you don't  
need to have things in other coordinate reference systems, then you  
can stick with georss:point.

I'm sure when the "real" XML people on this list wake up, they will  
either have more to say or can correct me if I'm wrong...

I think we need more examples!

        Allan

On Apr 4, 2006, at 07:02, Andrew Turner wrote:

> I am adding GeoRSS support to some of my projects and wanted to get
> some clarification on some of the other meta data that can be
> optionally included in a georss:where node.
>
> Relationship Tag and Feature Type Tag are two examples not really
> specified in the verbage on the site, or in the GML documentation.
> Should they be used as such:
>
> <georss:where>
>   <gml:featuretype>location mountaintop alps</gml:featuretype>
>   <gml:relationship>is-located-at</gml:relationship>
>   <gml:Point>
>     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
>   </gml:Point>
> </georss:where>
>
> or
>   <gml:featuretypetag>location, mountain top, alps</
> gml:featuretypetag>
>
> Seems worthwhile to specify/suggest a format for multiple values
> within the tags for parsers to know how to handle the values.
>
> Andrew
>
> --
> Andrew Turner
> ajturner@...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
> http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
> _______________________________________________
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> georss@...
> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>

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Parent Message unknown Explanation of other meta data?

by Andrew Turner-5 :: Rate this Message:

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On 4/4/06, Allan Doyle <adoyle@...> wrote:
> featuretype and relationship are in the georss namespace, not the gml
> namespace.

Ok - I wasn't sure. The georss site just says there are these "Tags"
available, but has no actual specification for their namespace,
formats, etc.

> As far as whether to use a gml:Point or a georss:point, I guess
> that's up to you but if you're not using any other GML and you don't
> need to have things in other coordinate reference systems, then you
> can stick with georss:point.

I was just using the examples from the GeoRSS webpage.

>
> I'm sure when the "real" XML people on this list wake up, they will
> either have more to say or can correct me if I'm wrong...
>

vs. the 'imaginary' XML people that live in the back-left corner of my laptop.

> I think we need more examples!
>

Exactly, I don't mind putting some together (as I'm adding them to my
projects), but in order to do that, you 'higher ups' need to clarify
on unspecified formatting. :)

Andrew

>         Allan
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 07:02, Andrew Turner wrote:
>
> > I am adding GeoRSS support to some of my projects and wanted to get
> > some clarification on some of the other meta data that can be
> > optionally included in a georss:where node.
> >
> > Relationship Tag and Feature Type Tag are two examples not really
> > specified in the verbage on the site, or in the GML documentation.
> > Should they be used as such:
> >
> > <georss:where>
> >   <gml:featuretype>location mountaintop alps</gml:featuretype>
> >   <gml:relationship>is-located-at</gml:relationship>
> >   <gml:Point>
> >     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
> >   </gml:Point>
> > </georss:where>
> >
> > or
> >   <gml:featuretypetag>location, mountain top, alps</
> > gml:featuretypetag>
> >
> > Seems worthwhile to specify/suggest a format for multiple values
> > within the tags for parsers to know how to handle the values.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Turner
> > ajturner@...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
> > http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
> > _______________________________________________
> > georss mailing list
> > georss@...
> > http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
> >
>
> --
> Allan Doyle
> +1.781.433.2695
> adoyle@...
>
>
>
>


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Re: Explanation of other meta data?

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What?! I've been awake for hours!

featuretypetag and relationshiptag (and elev, floor, radius) are  
attributes of georss:where (or georss:point, etc). We / I need to  
actually post the XML schema / GML profile so that it's clear and put  
back the examples.

These attributes are not keywords but are intended to sharpen the  
meaning of georss:where, for example, so I'm not in favor of allowing  
multiple values. There are other elements in RSS / Atom for  
descriptive material.

Josh

On Apr 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Allan Doyle wrote:

> featuretype and relationship are in the georss namespace, not the  
> gml namespace.
>
> As far as whether to use a gml:Point or a georss:point, I guess  
> that's up to you but if you're not using any other GML and you  
> don't need to have things in other coordinate reference systems,  
> then you can stick with georss:point.
>
> I'm sure when the "real" XML people on this list wake up, they will  
> either have more to say or can correct me if I'm wrong...
>
> I think we need more examples!
>
> Allan
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 07:02, Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I am adding GeoRSS support to some of my projects and wanted to get
>> some clarification on some of the other meta data that can be
>> optionally included in a georss:where node.
>>
>> Relationship Tag and Feature Type Tag are two examples not really
>> specified in the verbage on the site, or in the GML documentation.
>> Should they be used as such:
>>
>> <georss:where>
>>   <gml:featuretype>location mountaintop alps</gml:featuretype>
>>   <gml:relationship>is-located-at</gml:relationship>
>>   <gml:Point>
>>     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
>>   </gml:Point>
>> </georss:where>
>>
>> or
>>   <gml:featuretypetag>location, mountain top, alps</
>> gml:featuretypetag>
>>
>> Seems worthwhile to specify/suggest a format for multiple values
>> within the tags for parsers to know how to handle the values.
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Turner
>> ajturner@...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
>> http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
>> _______________________________________________
>> georss mailing list
>> georss@...
>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
>
> --
> Allan Doyle
> +1.781.433.2695
> adoyle@...
>
>
>
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Re: Explanation of other meta data?

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On Apr 4, 2006, at 09:57, Josh@oklieb wrote:

> What?! I've been awake for hours!
>
> featuretypetag and relationshiptag (and elev, floor, radius) are  
> attributes of georss:where (or georss:point, etc). We / I need to  
> actually post the XML schema / GML profile so that it's clear and  
> put back the examples.
>
> These attributes are not keywords but are intended to sharpen the  
> meaning of georss:where, for example, so I'm not in favor of  
> allowing multiple values. There are other elements in RSS / Atom  
> for descriptive material.

So can you construct Andrew's example properly for our collection,  
please?

        Allan

>
> Josh
>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Allan Doyle wrote:
>
>> featuretype and relationship are in the georss namespace, not the  
>> gml namespace.
>>
>> As far as whether to use a gml:Point or a georss:point, I guess  
>> that's up to you but if you're not using any other GML and you  
>> don't need to have things in other coordinate reference systems,  
>> then you can stick with georss:point.
>>
>> I'm sure when the "real" XML people on this list wake up, they  
>> will either have more to say or can correct me if I'm wrong...
>>
>> I think we need more examples!
>>
>> Allan
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 07:02, Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I am adding GeoRSS support to some of my projects and wanted to get
>>> some clarification on some of the other meta data that can be
>>> optionally included in a georss:where node.
>>>
>>> Relationship Tag and Feature Type Tag are two examples not really
>>> specified in the verbage on the site, or in the GML documentation.
>>> Should they be used as such:
>>>
>>> <georss:where>
>>>   <gml:featuretype>location mountaintop alps</gml:featuretype>
>>>   <gml:relationship>is-located-at</gml:relationship>
>>>   <gml:Point>
>>>     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
>>>   </gml:Point>
>>> </georss:where>
>>>
>>> or
>>>   <gml:featuretypetag>location, mountain top, alps</
>>> gml:featuretypetag>
>>>
>>> Seems worthwhile to specify/suggest a format for multiple values
>>> within the tags for parsers to know how to handle the values.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Turner
>>> ajturner@...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
>>> http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> georss mailing list
>>> georss@...
>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Allan Doyle
>> +1.781.433.2695
>> adoyle@...
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> georss mailing list
>> georss@...
>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>
> _______________________________________________
> georss mailing list
> georss@...
> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>

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Re: Explanation of other meta data?

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OK, I have every intention of being awake after this cup of tea.

GeoRSS GML:

<georss:where featuretypetag="mountain" relationshiptag="summit-of">
   <gml:Point>
     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
   </gml:Point>
</georss:where>

GeoRSS Simple:

<georss:point featuretypetag="mountain" relationshiptag="summit-
of">2.366813 11.106217</georss:point>


On Apr 4, 2006, at 10:05 AM, Allan Doyle wrote:

>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 09:57, Josh@oklieb wrote:
>
>> What?! I've been awake for hours!
>>
>> featuretypetag and relationshiptag (and elev, floor, radius) are  
>> attributes of georss:where (or georss:point, etc). We / I need to  
>> actually post the XML schema / GML profile so that it's clear and  
>> put back the examples.
>>
>> These attributes are not keywords but are intended to sharpen the  
>> meaning of georss:where, for example, so I'm not in favor of  
>> allowing multiple values. There are other elements in RSS / Atom  
>> for descriptive material.
>
> So can you construct Andrew's example properly for our collection,  
> please?
>
> Allan
>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Allan Doyle wrote:
>>
>>> featuretype and relationship are in the georss namespace, not the  
>>> gml namespace.
>>>
>>> As far as whether to use a gml:Point or a georss:point, I guess  
>>> that's up to you but if you're not using any other GML and you  
>>> don't need to have things in other coordinate reference systems,  
>>> then you can stick with georss:point.
>>>
>>> I'm sure when the "real" XML people on this list wake up, they  
>>> will either have more to say or can correct me if I'm wrong...
>>>
>>> I think we need more examples!
>>>
>>> Allan
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 07:02, Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am adding GeoRSS support to some of my projects and wanted to get
>>>> some clarification on some of the other meta data that can be
>>>> optionally included in a georss:where node.
>>>>
>>>> Relationship Tag and Feature Type Tag are two examples not really
>>>> specified in the verbage on the site, or in the GML documentation.
>>>> Should they be used as such:
>>>>
>>>> <georss:where>
>>>>   <gml:featuretype>location mountaintop alps</gml:featuretype>
>>>>   <gml:relationship>is-located-at</gml:relationship>
>>>>   <gml:Point>
>>>>     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
>>>>   </gml:Point>
>>>> </georss:where>
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>   <gml:featuretypetag>location, mountain top, alps</
>>>> gml:featuretypetag>
>>>>
>>>> Seems worthwhile to specify/suggest a format for multiple values
>>>> within the tags for parsers to know how to handle the values.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Turner
>>>> ajturner@...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
>>>> http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> georss mailing list
>>>> georss@...
>>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Allan Doyle
>>> +1.781.433.2695
>>> adoyle@...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> georss mailing list
>>> georss@...
>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> georss mailing list
>> georss@...
>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
>
> --
> Allan Doyle
> +1.781.433.2695
> adoyle@...
>
>
>
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Re: Explanation of other meta data?

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The GeoRSS Simple page had an example of this, but was overwritten recently. I've restored the page, with an example

----- Original Message ----
From: "Josh@oklieb" <josh@...>
To: georss@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2006 3:13:19 PM
Subject: Re: [georss] Explanation of other meta data?

OK, I have every intention of being awake after this cup of tea.

GeoRSS GML:

<georss:where featuretypetag="mountain" relationshiptag="summit-of">
   <gml:Point>
     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
   </gml:Point>
</georss:where>

GeoRSS Simple:

<georss:point featuretypetag="mountain" relationshiptag="summit-
of">2.366813 11.106217</georss:point>


On Apr 4, 2006, at 10:05 AM, Allan Doyle wrote:

>
> On Apr 4, 2006, at 09:57, Josh@oklieb wrote:
>
>> What?! I've been awake for hours!
>>
>> featuretypetag and relationshiptag (and elev, floor, radius) are  
>> attributes of georss:where (or georss:point, etc). We / I need to  
>> actually post the XML schema / GML profile so that it's clear and  
>> put back the examples.
>>
>> These attributes are not keywords but are intended to sharpen the  
>> meaning of georss:where, for example, so I'm not in favor of  
>> allowing multiple values. There are other elements in RSS / Atom  
>> for descriptive material.
>
> So can you construct Andrew's example properly for our collection,  
> please?
>
>     Allan
>
>>
>> Josh
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Allan Doyle wrote:
>>
>>> featuretype and relationship are in the georss namespace, not the  
>>> gml namespace.
>>>
>>> As far as whether to use a gml:Point or a georss:point, I guess  
>>> that's up to you but if you're not using any other GML and you  
>>> don't need to have things in other coordinate reference systems,  
>>> then you can stick with georss:point.
>>>
>>> I'm sure when the "real" XML people on this list wake up, they  
>>> will either have more to say or can correct me if I'm wrong...
>>>
>>> I think we need more examples!
>>>
>>>     Allan
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2006, at 07:02, Andrew Turner wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am adding GeoRSS support to some of my projects and wanted to get
>>>> some clarification on some of the other meta data that can be
>>>> optionally included in a georss:where node.
>>>>
>>>> Relationship Tag and Feature Type Tag are two examples not really
>>>> specified in the verbage on the site, or in the GML documentation.
>>>> Should they be used as such:
>>>>
>>>> <georss:where>
>>>>   <gml:featuretype>location mountaintop alps</gml:featuretype>
>>>>   <gml:relationship>is-located-at</gml:relationship>
>>>>   <gml:Point>
>>>>     <gml:pos>42.366813 11.106217</gml:pos>
>>>>   </gml:Point>
>>>> </georss:where>
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>   <gml:featuretypetag>location, mountain top, alps</
>>>> gml:featuretypetag>
>>>>
>>>> Seems worthwhile to specify/suggest a format for multiple values
>>>> within the tags for parsers to know how to handle the values.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Turner
>>>> ajturner@...        42.4266N x 83.4931W
>>>> http://highearthorbit.com              Northville, Michigan, USA
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> georss mailing list
>>>> georss@...
>>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Allan Doyle
>>> +1.781.433.2695
>>> adoyle@...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> georss mailing list
>>> georss@...
>>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> georss mailing list
>> georss@...
>> http://lists.eogeo.org/mailman/listinfo/georss
>>
>
> --
> Allan Doyle
> +1.781.433.2695
> adoyle@...
>
>
>
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