F11 musings (was Re: duplicity question)

[Brian Johnson-10]

Hey Michael,

thanks for the reply....Iactually meant to reply sooner and answer my own question, but Seth beat me to it...all I needed was my gpg keys to get back my backups. All worked well.

As for the larger tgz file, I actually tar'd it on the same media that had my other backups, so fortunately I didn't make that mistake (though I've done exactly what you're talking about in the past!). Fortunately I didn't end up with a > 400G tgz file (which is the size of the partition I was using), so it was only bigger than the stuff I was tarring up. I do recall, at one point, seeing the names of the files, and it looked something like this:

/home/mbjohn/../mbjohn/directory/filename
/home/mbjohn/../mbjohn/directory/filename2
/home/mbjohn/../mbjohn/directory2/filename
etc

which makes me wonder if I got my files in there twice.

As for Fedora 11, as always, the Fedora folks have done a great job. Doing a new install means a lot of work to get back to where it was, so I haven't gotten there yet, but I'm working on it. For one thing, I'm very happy that, for the first time since FC4, I was able to get my Broadcom wireless card in my Lat D610 working without ndiswrapper!

Just to throw this out there, I am using F11 on my laptop, which spends most of its time docked. I installed the system-config-display package and have everything set up correctly in there -- it recognizes the attached monitor as a Dell 1905FP, has the correct resolution (1280x1024). However, when docked, I can tell that I've got portions of my desktop going off the monitor -- at login, I don't see the options at the bottom for language, session, etc. When I'm logged in, maximized apps stop at the edges, as does my panel at the top, but when I put on a wallpaper with cute penguins at the center of it, and use "center", a quarter of the penguins end up at the bottom quarter of my screen. When I go to 'display' under 'preferences' (as opposed to 'administration', I'm shown that I have a laptop monitor and an unknown monitor. I click on 'detect monitors', but nothing happens. Outside of a few other config things there, there's not much that I can find that might help that issue. Everything comes up correctly when I'm undocked on my laptop.

I can definitely tell a speed improvement (it was running Fedora (Core? I can't remember) 9) and I like having my partitions encrypted.

Brian

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Michael Ansel <dulug@...> wrote:

Afraid I can't help with duplicity, but a question about the grossly
over-sized tar backup: Is that 20G larger than will fit on the
partition, or 20G larger than the data? I only ask because just last
week I goofed on my backup script and caused it to tar up the
directory containing the destination tar file. Needless to say, it
didn't like that very much and the infinite loop filled up the entire
drive pretty quick. So, I just wanted to throw that out there in case
you made the same mistake as me.

Also, while I can't speak for the other members of the list, I for one
would be interested in hearing how the migration to F11 goes: I'm
probably going to switch my laptop over Sunday, after I get back from
SouthEast LinuxFest. Good luck with the install!

Michael

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Brian Johnson<voyager.106@...> wrote:
> First off, a big, belated thanks to Seth for the duplicity recommendation a
> while back for backups. It's worked very well on the two Fedora boxes I
> have!
>
> Now, the question:
>
> During lunch today, I'm planning on celebrating Fedora 11 release day
> by...installing Fedora 11! On my laptop. And I'd like to take advantage of
> everything ext4 has to offer such as encryption and some speed improvements.
> So, I'd like to completely do away with my /home partition (or the stuff in
> it) and start over from scratch. I've used duplicity to back up /home and
> actually did a tar cvzf on /home/mbjohn last night to be on the safe side,
> but my tgz file ended up being about 20G larger than my home directory,
> which, um, has me worried. Ultimately, I'd like to know that if I need to, I
> can restore needed files from my encrypted duplicity backups. In short, is
> there a file in my home directory now that I need in place after the
> installation so that I can install files from my duplicity backups? I did
> some looking and couldn't find exactly what I needed.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Brian
>
> --
> Brian Johnson
> "And I will be even more undignified than this, and will be humble in my own
> sight." (2 Samuel 6:22)
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[Bill Day-2]

On Thu, 11 Jun 2009, Brian Johnson wrote:

> Hey Michael,
>
> thanks for the reply....Iactually meant to reply sooner and answer my own
> question, but Seth beat me to it...all I needed was my gpg keys to get back
> my backups. All worked well.
...>
> As for Fedora 11, as always, the Fedora folks have done a great job. Doing a
> new install means a lot of work to get back to where it was, so I haven't
> gotten there yet, but I'm working on it. For one thing, I'm very happy that,
> for the first time since FC4, I was able to get my Broadcom wireless card in
> my Lat D610 working without ndiswrapper!

> Just to throw this out there, I am using F11 on my laptop, which spends most
> of its time docked. I installed the system-config-display package and have

Happy with F11 here, too: Tested F11 on a p4 toshiba a30 because
ubuntu-9.04 with 2.6.28 kept locking up and folks blamed that kernel.
(Memtest, smart and others found no hardware issues, and win7 ran ok
without lockups). F11 has run fine for the few hours I've used it, but I
was worried when I had the same hard-lockup twice in middle of the install
that I see in ubuntu: mouse and keyboard dead, no ssh, need to do hard
power-off and nothing useful in logs. Saw same symptoms in ubuntu904 about
every 20-30minutes. But I'm it looks like the installer boots a 2.6.28
kernel, so after a second try selecting fewer items to install, it
finished up before a lockup. After editing /etc/sysconfig/hddtemp to
"hddtemp -d /dev/sda" the gai-temp gives me hard-drive temperature in the
panel so I can watch for overheating, which this laptop is known for.
The acpi detection is iffy, even with newest (2007) bios... But so far it
looks to me like the 2.6.28 kernel has an issue at least on some laptops,
and I think F11 seems to confirm that.

--Hope this helps,
Bill Day

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