FW: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"
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Re: FW: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"
by Amory Meltzer
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Well I for one don't like it! *HMPH!*
That being said, the roughtype article kind of sensationalizes the results. Matching test subjects simply by internet usage doesn't really cut it. Picking 69 wikipedians will likely inherently skew the results. The researchers would have to specifically find users who will 1. Respond 2. Comply 3. Give an easy way to contact them These users are for more likely to be involved in perhaps the more Wikipedia-esque aspects (AfD, NFC, all the other Three-Letter Acronyms) and are probably yes, inherently more likely to be more comfortable online. Compare that to 70 students who spend their comparable time downloading "Single Ladies," movies, and porn, and the results almost laid out for you. Moreover, the result was that Wikipedians scored low on "scored low on agreeableness and openness." Well... those aren't exactly the traits Wikipedia needs or wants. Useful, yes, but not necessary. Wikipedia, operates on consensus, not unanimous voting. I may still hate your idea, but it's going to happen if there's consensus for it, agreeableness or not. It DOES seem to indicate that Wikipedians have at least normal conscientiousness and neuroticism, which would certainly lend well to working on an encyclopedia. ~Amory On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 18:20, Marc Riddell<michaeldavid86@...> wrote: > Very appropriate to this discussion. > > MR > ---------- > From: Eddie Tejeda <eddie@...> > Reply-To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List > <foundation-l@...> > Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:57:44 -0700 > To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l@...> > Subject: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production" > > 'Forget altruism. Misanthropy and egotism are the fuel of online social > production. That's the conclusion suggested by a new study of the character > traits of the contributors to Wikipedia. A team of Israeli research > psychologists gave personality tests to 69 Wikipedians and 70 > non-Wikipedians. They discovered that, as New Scientist puts > it<http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16349-psychologist-finds-wikipedian > s-grumpy-and-closedminded.html>, > Wikipedians are generally "grumpy," "disagreeable," and "closed to new > ideas."' > http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2009/06/the_sour_wikipe.php > > I wonder how the mailing list will react.... > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@... > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@... > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@... To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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Re: FW: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"
by Durova
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Summary: "Geeks use computers". This passes for insight?
-Durova On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 6:46 PM, <WJhonson@...> wrote: > In a message dated 6/27/2009 6:37:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > WJhonson@... writes: > > > > > > How dare you! Go away and be quiet! > > > > On a lighter note, I've never met anyone I couldn't piss off. > > > > Will "grumpy" Johnson>> > > ------------------ > > Wait a moment. > I think maybe I've confused "grumpy" with "aggressively obnoxious". > > In other words, not only am I obnoxious, but I try to recruit others to my > cause by aggressively proselytizing, that is, I annoy them to the point > where they also become equally obnoxious. The ultimate plan of course is > for > everybody to be hostile all the time. That would be the pure world of > hatred > and animosity (and redundancy) that my dark overlord requires for his > return. > > On a second note, I wonder how they selected their sample. Complacent > Wikians would be less likely I would think to respond than newly-created > activists. > > Will "grumpy and dopey all in one" Johnson > > > > > ************** > Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the > grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@... > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > -- http://durova.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@... To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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Re: FW: [Foundation-l] "antisocial production"
by Ray Saintonge
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Amory Meltzer wrote:
> These users are for more likely to be involved in perhaps the more > Wikipedia-esque aspects (AfD, NFC, all the other Three-Letter > Acronyms) and are probably yes, inherently more likely to be more > comfortable online. Compare that to 70 students who spend their > comparable time downloading "Single Ladies," movies, and porn, and the > results almost laid out for you. > It's somewhat presumptuous to insinuate that those 70 were so dominated by those who use the Internet as their way of getting laid. > Moreover, the result was that Wikipedians scored low on "scored low on > agreeableness and openness." Well... those aren't exactly the traits > Wikipedia needs or wants. Useful, yes, but not necessary. Quite the contrary > Wikipedia, > operates on consensus, not unanimous voting. I may still hate your > idea, but it's going to happen if there's consensus for it, > agreeableness or not. It DOES seem to indicate that Wikipedians have > at least normal conscientiousness and neuroticism, which would > certainly lend well to working on an encyclopedia. > Some people do believe in the myth that it operates by consensus. One mustn't confuse bully tactics with consensus. Ec _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@... To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l |
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