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Re: Compiz plugins

2009-12-06T14:31:38Z

2009/12/6 Eric Tanguy <eric.tanguy@...>:

> Le 06/12/2009 10:45, Suvayu Ali a écrit :
>>
>> On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote:
>>>
>>> Le 06/12/2009 09:50, suvayu ali a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> 2009/12/6 Eric Tanguy<eric.tanguy@...>:
>>>>>
>>>>> So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i
>>>>> need
>>>>> to hold down<Control><Super> and move the mouse. I assume<Super> is the
>>>>> window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i
>>>>> have a
>>>>> problem with my keyboard.
>>>>>
>>>> First you would need to install ccsm (compiz-manager) then turn on the
>>>> plugins and make sure they are bounded to the keys you want. The keys
>>>> mentioned in the compiz wiki are the default key bindings given that
>>>> the corresponding plugin is turned on.
>>>>
>>>> I hope this is clearer. Have fun.
>>>
>>> I installed it and enabled water effects but it does not work. How to
>>> know what key is <super> ?
>>> Eric
>>>
>> The other way you can check would be to try changing any of the default
>> key bindings in ccsm, that should let you see whether compiz recognizes your
>> super key correctly.
>>
>> GL
>
> In fact, ccsm is not active by default you have to change the compiz-gtk
> script to enable ccsm (see
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229) after this water plugin
> works fine ...
> Thanks for the help
> Eric
>

Thanks a lot for posting this Eric, learned quite a bit about
compiz-config from that bug report.

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Re: Compiz plugins

2009-12-06T14:28:37Z

2009/12/6 Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@...>:

> On Sunday 06 December 2009 09:45:53 Suvayu Ali wrote:
>> On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote:
>> > How to know what key is <super> ?
>>
>> Although its usually the "Windows" key, you can check by running xev
>> from the terminal. This will give you a keycode for the key, but I don't
>> know how you can make sure that is the correct keycode.
>
> I've always found this "super" and "meta" terminology quite confusing. What
> keys do you press when you read "press <alt>+<meta3>+F9" in some instruction
> manual?
>
> Given that some keyboards might or might not have one or more "Windows" and
> similar keys present, there must be some table in X configuration files that
> maps available keyboard layout to names such as <super>, <meta1-4>, <alt>,
> <ctrl> and <shift>. The problem is where this information actually is and how
> to make it easily available for a newbie.
>

>From what I have observed, <meta> usually refers to the two ALT keys,
and <super> refers to the two WINDOWS keys. And sometimes _all_ these
modifier keys are referred to as modX where X is just a number. So it
could be something like this, <mod1> = ALT, <mod2> = CTRL, <mod3> =
SHIFT, and <mod4> = WINDOWS. (I might have mixed up the mod2 & mod3
though :-p )

> After so many years of using Linux, I myself am still not sure what are super
> and meta keys on my keyboard. I never bothered to do a serious investigation
> of this, but certainly, one should not be supposed to use google and read
> configuration files in order to find out which key is where on the keyboard...
>

That is very true, all of this is incredibly confusing. There has to
be some convention on what to use when referring to these keys and of
course all of that needs to be documented. I wouldn't know where to
start looking to get more into the details of all this mess. :(

> Or am I missing something completely obvious here?
>
> Best, :-)
> Marko

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Can't browse file shares on other computers with F11 using Samba

2009-12-06T14:25:55Z

I have a problem with F11 not browsing file shares on other machines. I can
browse file shares on the F11 box from other computers however just fine.
When I try to browse file shares, using Nautilus, on the LAN I can see
several machines out there and a folder for the local workgroup. Clicking on
one of the computers listed I get a message about not being able to mount
the location. I have F3, F5, F8 and a F12 box that all seem to work OK, just
the F11 box is not working. I set them all up the same.

After doing some research using Google I found this isn't exactly an
uncommon problem. Samba was removed and then reinstall using yum-extender,
no luck. I'm not using DHCP, all machines have a fixed IP, the firewall is
disabled, network manager is disabled, IPv4 is the only protocol running
(IPv6 is disabled) and SELinux is disabled. Some info I found tends to
suggest it's a Nautilus screw up, maybe.

Any ideas?

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Re: mplayer stop XScreenSaver ignored

2009-12-06T13:58:46Z

On 12/06/2009 04:49 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:

> I have the same problem in F12 with
> mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.x86_64 and Nvidia driver 190.42. It
> started sometime in the last few months as when I originally used the
> option, it worked. I'm using the -stop-screensaver option with
> command-line mplayer.

Sorry, meant to say -stop-xscreensaver. I'm a little confused about the
two Screensaver entries under System->Preferences in Gnome for
XScreenSaver and Gnome Screensaver (I'm using the second, as I always
have, including when -stop-xscreensaver was working). However, I
believe VLC disables the screensaver properly.

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Re: Grub timeout ignored?

2009-12-06T13:57:44Z

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Clemens Eisserer <linuxhippy@...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am running Fedora 12, and I have the problem that grub seems to
> ignore the timeout-value set.
> In /etc/grub.conf I've set timeout=5

Set timeout to 10. For some reason, 5 is too short.

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Re: Advantages of 64-bit on my laptop?

2009-12-06T13:54:24Z

Robert Nichols wrote:

> Is there any real advantage to running the
> 64-bit version of Fedora on a laptop that
> is limited to 2GB RAM?

I discovered by accident that my desktop is 64-bit
capable about a year ago. I had 2 GB of RAM and fedora
64-bit seemed slow, so I bought an additional 2 GB of
RAM and now it smokes.

Probably, you will have to install and test.

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Re: mplayer stop XScreenSaver ignored

2009-12-06T13:49:05Z

On 12/06/2009 04:42 PM, Dj YB wrote:

> hello list,
> I am using fedora 11
> mplayer version SVN-r29701-4.4.1
> (but the problem appeared in earlier versions as well)
> NVIDIA driver version 190.42
> X server version number 11.0
> server vendor version 1.6.3.901 (10603901)
> NV control version 1.20
>
> I have toggled "stop XScreenSaver" in mplayer misc tab
> and my screen saver is still running while mplayer is playing in full screen.

I have the same problem in F12 with
mplayer-1.0-0.111.20091029svn.fc12.x86_64 and Nvidia driver 190.42. It
started sometime in the last few months as when I originally used the
option, it worked. I'm using the -stop-screensaver option with
command-line mplayer.

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Re: Logrotate frustration - Selinux & Fail2Ban

2009-12-06T13:44:21Z

On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 12:59 +0100, Dominick Grift wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 09:38:32AM +0000, Arthur Dent wrote:
> >

[Snip]

> The rule with the initrc_t type is due to missing policy. It is encouraged to implement policy for all init daemons.
>
> With regard to the other rules you can, i guess, basically allow the access required,
>
> But always go through the checklist:
>
> 1. are the parties in an interaction labeled correctly? (matchpatchcon/restorecon/semanage/chcon)
> 2. are there any booleans or types that facilitate a certain interaction? (audit2allow)
> 3. is there a misconfiguration in some application? (see if a program should be able to do what it wants)
> 3. is there a bug in some application? (is the denial due to a bug in an application?)
> 4. is there a bug in the selinux policy? (missing policy to allow a certain interaction?)
> 5. is it a break in attempt (is the application compromised.
>
> taking these 5 golden rules into concideration. i have some questions:
>
> allow logrotate_t fail2ban_var_run_t:sock_file write
> - why would logrotate have to write to a fail2ban sock file? (this may be a bug in fail2ban, maybe leaked file descriptor. does this denial cause any loss in functionality? if not consider silently denying it)
>
> allow logrotate_t squid_log_t:lnk_file rename;
> - why does squidgaurd, or whatever managed squid_log_t lnk_file, create a lnk_file in /var/log/... This is obviously not common behaviour afaik. That may be the reason why is denied.
>
> withregard to the rules with mail_spool_t type i would like to know if and why logrotate wants to rotate spool files. is this expeected behaviour of logrotate or are the mail_spool_t object mislabeled?
>
> so in conclusion the only denial that i am somewhat comfortable with is the squid link file denial. This may be some uncommon behaviour of squid/squidgaurd that selinux policy currently does not support (when confirmed that squidgaurd indeed creates a lnk file in /var/log for some reason , then implement policy to allow logrotate to rename the link (and what else it may need to do with the lnk_file.)
>
> See what runs initrc_t (ps auxZ) and consider writing policy for this init daemon. By implementing policy for init daemon you prtect the system plus you achive that confined domain do not have to interact with the unconfined initrc_t domain.

OK - I'm going to change the focus of this question slightly here.

Many of my AVCs do in fact relate to Fail2Ban and in fact running ps
auxZ shows the following:

# ps auxZ | grep init
system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 root 1 0.0 0.0 2008 164 ? Ss Dec02 0:03 /sbin/init
system_u:system_r:initrc_t:s0 ddclient 1673 0.0 0.7 10228 2956 ? S Dec02 1:00 ddclient - sleeping for 130 seconds
system_u:system_r:initrc_t:s0 root 1827 0.1 0.5 75940 2156 ? Sl Dec02 6:52 /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/fail2ban-server -b -s /var/run/fail2ban/fail2ban.sock -x
system_u:system_r:initrc_t:s0 root 1830 0.0 0.0 2904 348 ? S Dec02 0:17 /usr/libexec/gam_server
unconfined_u:system_r:initrc_t:s0 clamav 13149 0.3 28.8 220652 109928 ? Ssl 05:50 1:30 /usr/local/sbin/clamd
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 root 14886 1.0 0.1 4200 720 pts/0 S+ 12:08 0:00 grep init

My Fail2Ban policy has also grown over the months and now looks like
this:
===============8<====================================================
module myfail2ban 11.1.3;

require {
type iptables_t;
type system_mail_t;
type fail2ban_t;
type usr_t;
type syslogd_t;
type sendmail_t;
type initrc_t;
class file read;
class unix_stream_socket { read write };
class unix_dgram_socket { read write sendto };
}

#============= fail2ban_t ==============
allow fail2ban_t self:unix_dgram_socket write;
allow fail2ban_t syslogd_t:unix_dgram_socket sendto;

#============= iptables_t ==============
allow iptables_t fail2ban_t:unix_stream_socket { read write };
allow iptables_t fail2ban_t:unix_dgram_socket { read write };
allow iptables_t initrc_t:unix_dgram_socket { read write };

#============= system_mail_t ==============
allow system_mail_t fail2ban_t:unix_stream_socket { read write };
allow system_mail_t fail2ban_t:unix_dgram_socket { read write };
allow system_mail_t usr_t:file read;

#============= sendmail_t ==============
allow sendmail_t initrc_t:unix_dgram_socket { read write };

===============8<====================================================

I am concious that this is not ideal and so I have asked on the fail2ban
list if someone with more technical expertise than me can help clean up
fail2ban with respect to selinux.

Fortunately Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman, one of the developers, has
offered to take a look at this. (I am also copying this email to the
fail2ban list).

I would very much appreciate it if Dominick, Daniel, and anyone else who
can help, could liaise with Arturo so that this important security
package could work cleanly with selinux.

I will do what I can too - but I should just point out that I can just
about spell "patch" and only if I'm really desperate would I ever try to
apply one!

Thanks in advance.

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mplayer stop XScreenSaver ignored

2009-12-06T13:42:00Z

hello list,
I am using fedora 11
mplayer version SVN-r29701-4.4.1
(but the problem appeared in earlier versions as well)
NVIDIA driver version 190.42
X server version number 11.0
server vendor version 1.6.3.901 (10603901)
NV control version 1.20

I have toggled "stop XScreenSaver" in mplayer misc tab
and my screen saver is still running while mplayer is playing in full screen.
please advise...
thanks,
YB.

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Re: Advantages of 64-bit on my laptop?

2009-12-06T13:40:39Z

On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:32:25 -0600
Robert Nichols <rnicholsNOSPAM@...> wrote:

> I just noticed that the CPU in my Lenovo laptop is 64-bit capable. It
> came with a 32-bit OS installed, so I never bothered to check. Is
> there any real advantage to running the 64-bit version of Fedora on a
> laptop that is limited to 2GB RAM? Just wondering. The F-12 x86_64
> Live CD does boot and run just fine. I've been running the i686
> versions of F-11 and (now) F-12.

Performance - anything above about 900MB is much happier 64bit

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Advantages of 64-bit on my laptop?

2009-12-06T13:32:25Z

I just noticed that the CPU in my Lenovo laptop is 64-bit capable. It
came with a 32-bit OS installed, so I never bothered to check. Is
there any real advantage to running the 64-bit version of Fedora on a
laptop that is limited to 2GB RAM? Just wondering. The F-12 x86_64
Live CD does boot and run just fine. I've been running the i686
versions of F-11 and (now) F-12.

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Re: Getting rid of /boot

2009-12-06T13:30:14Z

On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Robert Nichols
<rnicholsNOSPAM@...> wrote:

> This sounds like you've been doing your installs from a Live CD, where
> your options are indeed quite limited. The installation CD set or DVD
> includes a perfectly good partitioning tool that allows you to set up
> partitions and mount points pretty much any way you want, and also
> allows you to switch to a text console and run 'fdisk' if you need to
> rearrange an existing partitioning scheme.

Exactly. I've never seen any use at all for live CD's, I don't know
what Fedora includes in one or even if they include any sort of
partitioning tool at all.

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Re: Getting rid of /boot

2009-12-06T13:24:39Z

Gene Heskett wrote:
> If you know how to make the 'installer' partition a drive according to your
> wishes without its refusing to accept say a 400 Mbyte /boot partition, or
> demanding that /root & /var MUST live on /, then please write up a
> downloadable, printable PDF on how to do that since that data to guide one
> around the fedora imposed toll gates is not available during the install. Do
> so, let us know where it can be pulled from and I will gladly, gleefully kill
> a tree. And should we ever meet, the first 3 are on me. ;)

This sounds like you've been doing your installs from a Live CD, where
your options are indeed quite limited. The installation CD set or DVD
includes a perfectly good partitioning tool that allows you to set up
partitions and mount points pretty much any way you want, and also
allows you to switch to a text console and run 'fdisk' if you need to
rearrange an existing partitioning scheme. You do have to select
"Create custom layout" in the first partitioning dialog. The only
problems I've ever run into with the built-in partitioning tool is its
refusal to deal with anomalies such as partitions not in physical disk
order or the use of "limit capacity" jumpers back in the days of disks
larger than what the BIOS would support.

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Re: Grub timeout ignored?

2009-12-06T13:15:20Z

On 12/06/2009 03:37 PM, Clemens Eisserer wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am running Fedora 12, and I have the problem that grub seems to
> ignore the timeout-value set.
> In /etc/grub.conf I've set timeout=5
>
> however grub always skips the menu, and loads the first/default entry
> immediatly.
> Any ideas what could be the problem?
>
> Thank you in advance, Clemens
>

You probably sitll have the menu hidedn. Look for the line in your
/boot/grub/grub.conf that says:

hiddenmenu

and comment it out with a #.

Will

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Re: Replacing corrupted package

2009-12-06T13:11:25Z

On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 14:40 -0600, Brian Wood wrote:
> I ran yum remove librsvg2, but it wanted to remove 19 packages,
> so I didn't allow it to do that. How can I replace the already
> installed
> and apparrently corrupted package using the rpm that I downloaded?
> TIA.

With yum
# yum reinstall package
or with rpm
# rpm -ivh --replacepkgs /path/to/package.rpm

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Replacing corrupted package

2009-12-06T12:40:44Z

I'm trying to use consolehelper on F10 to move to F11. When I run it it
says: Unable to load image-loading module. And it says /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so.2
has an invalid ELF header. I ran rpm --verify librsvg2 and it gives:
S.5..... /usr/bin/rsvg-convert
S.5..... /usr/lib/librsvg-2.so..2.22.3

I downloaded librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm

I tried yum install librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm

but it says:
librsvg2-2.22.3-1.fc10.i386.rpm: does not update installed package.

I ran yum remove librsvg2, but it wanted to remove 19 packages,
so I didn't allow it to do that. How can I replace the already installed
and apparrently corrupted package using the rpm that I downloaded?
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mouse cursor weirdness

2009-12-06T12:39:18Z

Fedora 12, fluxbox (fluxbox-1.1.1-5.fc12.x86_64). Keyboard multimedia
buttons (XF86AudioNext, XF86AudioPrev, XF86AudioPlay) are bound to
rhythmbox-client. When pressing the button the mouse cursor gets thrown
in upper-left corner of the screen. It is quite annoying, I must say.

Dont remember such thing on F9 (my previous one). Any suggestions whom
to blame (fluxbox, xorg, evdev)?

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Grub timeout ignored?

2009-12-06T12:37:17Z

Hello,

I am running Fedora 12, and I have the problem that grub seems to
ignore the timeout-value set.
In /etc/grub.conf I've set timeout=5

however grub always skips the menu, and loads the first/default entry
immediatly.
Any ideas what could be the problem?

Thank you in advance, Clemens

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Re: thunderbird-3.0-3.13.rc2.fc12.i686

2009-12-06T12:19:06Z

2009/12/6 James J Catchpole <james_j_catchpole@...>:

> I have Thunderbird RC2 installed from the Thunderbird Download
> site in private libraries and it works fine. When I install the package
> from Fedora 12 it fails with the following message:
>
> "Sending of message failed: Please verify that the Mail and Newsgroups
> Accounts settings are correct and try again."
>
> There appears to be no difference between the two particularly as
> they are using the same user preferences. It seems to me that there
> must be something different between the two:
>
> Following are the two installations I have installed:
>
> thunderbird-3.0-3.13.rc2.fc12.i686
> thunderbird-3.0rc2.tar

I've had this happen because I had enigmail installed. Removing
enigmail or installing an updated version from Remi Collet's repos
fixed it.

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Re: dd question, what am I doing wrong?

2009-12-06T12:17:56Z

Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 11:02 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>
>> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 16:13 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The problem I have specifically with rsync (or tar, or cp) is that
>>>> it does not save ACLs, file attributes too well, and so on that I
>>>> gave up using it. Perhaps the problem in this case is not to use
>>>> the -a option but to use the manual options to save everything
>>>> about the files that you can.
>>>>
>>>> Specifically:
>>>> rsync manual:
>>>> -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)
>>>> -H, --hard-links preserve hard links
>>>> -A, --acls preserve ACLs (implies -p)
>>>> -X, --xattrs preserve extended attributes
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Do you mean that you've tried these (particularly -A and -X) and they
>>> don't work? If so, have you filed a bug report?
>>>
>>>
>> I am not certain that it's a bug per-se, it's just that there are
>> cases, or so it seems, where it is not clear how to deal with
>> the issue on my part. For example, hard links (-H). How are
>> hard links handled on one drive to be copied over to another
>> and is it guaranteed to work? I could not get my mind around
>> this one so I did not want to take a chance.
>>
>
> Well, you could try it. Since you're copying to a fresh drive anyway,
> there's no harm in doing it and checking the result.
>
> Hard links are an easy case in fact, and trivial to check. Create file A
> and hard link B to it. Rsync A and B to a different filesystem, using
> the -H option. Use "ls -i" on the copied files to see that they both
> have the same inode. That's all a hard link is.
>
>
>> As for ACLs (-A),
>> what exactly is being handled here and does this work for ALL
>> Oses concerned - do they follow the same "standard"?
>>
>
> WTF? Of course not. I thought we were talking about Linux here. In fact
> there's been no indication in this thread of anything to the contrary.
> There is no "standard" for this stuff across OSes (I suppose Posix might
> be considered a standard but I'd be very careful about relying on it).
> We're doing low-level system maintenance here. Don't expect anything to
> be portable.
>
>
>> I am thinking
>> about Vista in particular, so I did not want to experiment on this
>> one either.
>>
>
> I wouldn't dream of doing this on a non-Unix system.
>
>
>> As for extended attributes (-X), I have no clue exactly
>> what this is. I guess I have to someday take the time to do more
>> research before messing around with these rsync options. This is a
>> particular reason why I am using dd/rescue & resizing - it works sans
>> Vista, which I have yet to try.
>>
>
> Again, rsync is a *Unix* utility, designed for *Unix* filesystems
> *only*. If you'd said at the beginning that you wanted to move a Vista
> partition we could have saved ourselves a lot of time.
>
> poc
>

I was being general. The same issue applies to linux when it comes
to rsync. If one relies on rsync to keep all the file atttibutes with -a
option, there are surprises as I mentioned. I threw in Vista just to
make a point that rsync does not work with Vista (or Xp), as you
already know. It pays to know what these rsync options do and
what OSes rsync works with, again which you already know, but
it is written here for those that don't - me included. I learned the
hard way by testing it all out so that I know what works and what
doesn't. I found that rsync does copy the data on Xp or Vista, but
sans the file attributes. At least with a failing drive most of the data
was "saved" when in a hurry. It sure is fast.

Getting back on topic - it is dd/rescue that works for (some) OSes and
so far it does. I discovered that it definitely works with XP so as long
as the partition copied from source to destination is the same partition#
- otherwise, one is forced to 'fixBoot' because somehow the partition
data (boot.ini) and the partition "MBR" are not "in sync". Vista on the
other hand does not work even if dd'ing source to destination, with the
same partition#s.

I am fighting a battle on another system trying to get XP & Vista's boot
partition to work where the partition to partition copy are not the same,
local or to different drives.

FWIW,
Dan

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Re: Virtualização no Fedora 12 com KVM

2009-12-06T12:10:42Z

João,

Qual o seu processador? Eu acho que essa flag do processador que fala
na documentação é a flag de suporte a virtualização (Intel VT-x ou
AMD-V). Você precisa ter um processador com esse suporte e ter
habilitado essa característica na BIOS da placa-mãe.

Se o seu processador tiver suporte, só falta habilitar na placa-mãe o
suporte e efetuar a criação da VM.

Não conheço muito o KVM mas acho que ele só usa o suporte de
virtualização do processador. Como alternativa você pode criar VMs
utilizando o VMware, já que ele não necessita do suporte do
processador às extensões de virtualização.
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2009/11/23 João Salvatti <salvatti@...>:

> Senhores,
>
> Tentei criar uma máquina virtual no meu Fedora 12 utilizando o KVM, eu
> instalei todos os sfotwares necessários para habilitar o suporte a
> virtualização, porém quando quero criar a máquina, usando o
> virt-manager, ele não deixa. Lendo alguns documentos verifiquei que é
> necessário uma flag do processador para poder habilitar a instalação.
> Gostaria de saber se somente com essa flag posso criar VM's no Fedora
> 12 com KVM.
>
> Desde já agradeço o tempo desperdiçado com este e-mail.
>
> Cordialmente.
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Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB

2009-12-06T12:07:56Z

On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:46:19 -0600, Steven Stern wrote:

> On 12/06/2009 11:46 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote:
[....]

>> Afaict, Anaconda never gets launched from the DVD.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to get the Constantine
>> option out of there?
>>
>> If so, is it enough to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf? Or do I have to
>> find and dig out everything it refers to? Or what??
>
> I've found that the only way to get my Dell desktop to boot from the USB
> key is to turn off all other USB devices. The Dell sees the memory card
> slots in my printer before it sees the USB key and reports it can't find
> a bootable device. Turning off the printer solves this. So, try
> unplugging or powering down all other USB devices and see if the Dell
> will boot from the external USB.

Weird; but I tried it. No joy. It just brought up the same grub
screen as ever.
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Re: Recent texlive anyone?

2009-12-06T12:03:53Z

Am Sonntag, den 06.12.2009, 00:40 +0200 schrieb Jussi Lehtola:

> On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 18:43 +0100, Christoph Höger wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > has anybody seen some rpm packaging for the current texlive
> > distribution? Since fedora switched over things look stalled.
>
> Have a look at
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
>
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Nice. You've saved my diploma thesis.

Btw.: Is it intentional that installing texlive leaves you without
anything usable (fonts, epstopdf etc.)?

And floatflt does not work anymore.

regards

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Re: Slow gnome startup with compiz enabled

2009-12-06T12:02:43Z

Am Sonntag, den 06.12.2009, 11:38 -0600 schrieb Dan Burkland:
> Hi all,
>
> I've noticed that when starting gnome up for the first time after boot
> it takes at least 10 seconds before I can navigate the desktop. I have
> enabled compiz using the "System=>Preferences=>Desktop Effects" menu. I
> have tried re-enabling metacity and that seems to solve the problem. Has
> anybody else noticed this and possibly found a way to speed up the load
> times with compiz enabled?

Yep.

Same for me too. Since f12, I noticed a huge boot delay (I did not
measure but would say > 20s).

This only happens on my laptop (intel) and not on my desktop (radeon
experimental).

I am going to test if disabling compiz will help.

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thunderbird-3.0-3.13.rc2.fc12.i686

2009-12-06T11:55:59Z

I have Thunderbird RC2 installed from the Thunderbird Download
site in private libraries and it works fine. When I install the package
from Fedora 12 it fails with the following message:

"Sending of message failed: Please verify that the Mail and Newsgroups
Accounts settings are correct and try again."

There appears to be no difference between the two particularly as
they are using the same user preferences. It seems to me that there
must be something different between the two:

Following are the two installations I have installed:

thunderbird-3.0-3.13.rc2.fc12.i686
thunderbird-3.0rc2.tar

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Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB

2009-12-06T11:18:56Z

On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 12:08:49 -0600, Mikkel wrote:

> Try doing a USB boot instead of a DVD boot. I suspect that the BIOS does
> not see the USB DVD-RW drive as a DVD drive.

I thought I had, but I rebooted and went through everything, line
by line. No joy.

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Re: Getting rid of /boot

2009-12-06T11:10:19Z

On Sunday 06 December 2009, Marc Wilson wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:20 PM, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@...>
wrote:

>> I need to install F12 here at some point, and it sure would be a hell of
>> a lot easier if F10 had enough libraries installed to run gparted to
>> prepare a drive the way _I_ want it and tell anaconda to go pound sand.
>> For instance, why will it not accept a /boot partition specified for
>> more than 199 megabytes?
>>
>> Why will it not accept a separate /root partition?
>>
>> Why will it not accept a separate /var partition?
>>
>> Or a separate /etc partition?
>
>I did all of those things with the *installer*. IMHO if you've
>already decided you need to use gparted before you get started, you're
>part of the problem, not the solution.

I sincerely don't believe so Marc, so I'm going to call your bluff a wee bit.

If and when fedora actually gives us a working partitioning tool that doesn't
suffer from the entirely false limitations imposed by fedora, I'll use it.

But when I move a fedora install with rsync -avc to a drive partitioned the
way I want it, and its at least 2x faster when done, then something is very
seriously broken in the fedora approved version. And that IS the end of the
discussion at this campfire gathering.

If you know how to make the 'installer' partition a drive according to your
wishes without its refusing to accept say a 400 Mbyte /boot partition, or
demanding that /root & /var MUST live on /, then please write up a
downloadable, printable PDF on how to do that since that data to guide one
around the fedora imposed toll gates is not available during the install. Do
so, let us know where it can be pulled from and I will gladly, gleefully kill
a tree. And should we ever meet, the first 3 are on me. ;)

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Re: Compiz plugins

2009-12-06T11:04:56Z

Le 06/12/2009 10:45, Suvayu Ali a écrit :

> On Sunday 06 December 2009 01:39 AM, Eric Tanguy wrote:
>> Le 06/12/2009 09:50, suvayu ali a écrit :
>>> 2009/12/6 Eric Tanguy<eric.tanguy@...>:
>>>> Le 05/12/2009 20:12, suvayu ali a écrit :
>>>>> 2009/12/5 Eric Tanguy<eric.tanguy@...>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there somewhere a howto or something like that about compiz
>>>>>> plugins. I
>>>>>> don't know which plugins are in fedora, which one could be add and
>>>>>> how to
>>>>>> use it (key combinations). I try to test the water one and i can't
>>>>>> achieve
>>>>>> to find the keys to use or the keys does not work ...
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizPlugins
>>>>> http://wiki.compiz.org/CompizFusionPlugins
>>>>>
>>>> So according to http://wiki.compiz.org/Plugins/Water to activate it i
>>>> need
>>>> to hold down<Control><Super> and move the mouse. I assume<Super> is
>>>> the
>>>> window key. it does not work so either the plugin does not work or i
>>>> have a
>>>> problem with my keyboard.
>>>>
>>> First you would need to install ccsm (compiz-manager) then turn on the
>>> plugins and make sure they are bounded to the keys you want. The keys
>>> mentioned in the compiz wiki are the default key bindings given that
>>> the corresponding plugin is turned on.
>>>
>>> I hope this is clearer. Have fun.
>> I installed it and enabled water effects but it does not work. How to
>> know what key is <super> ?
>> Eric
>>
>
> Although its usually the "Windows" key, you can check by running xev
> from the terminal. This will give you a keycode for the key, but I
> don't know how you can make sure that is the correct keycode.
>
> The other way you can check would be to try changing any of the
> default key bindings in ccsm, that should let you see whether compiz
> recognizes your super key correctly.
>
> GL

In fact, ccsm is not active by default you have to change the compiz-gtk
script to enable ccsm (see
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532229) after this water
plugin works fine ...
Thanks for the help
Eric

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Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12

2009-12-06T11:02:49Z

On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 09:28 -0700, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 16:11 +0000, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
>
> > VirtualBox works for me (to the extent of synching my old Palm Tx) but
> > you have to use the non-free version as the free one doesn't have USB
> > support.
>
> How much does it cost to get a home user license for the non-free
> version?

For personal use, it costs nothing, but check the Web page to be sure:
http://www.virtualbox.org.

poc

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Re: Compiz plugins + OT keyboard layouts ?!?

2009-12-06T10:48:20Z

Hi;

Although the subject of keyboard layouts is moving off topic and should
be a new thread ...

On Sun, 2009-12-06 at 17:20 +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

It's a confusion you won't get rid of -- it is far too steeped in
history and nostalgia.

> Given that some keyboards might or might not have one or more "Windows" and
> similar keys present, there must be some table in X configuration files that
> maps available keyboard layout to names such as <super>, <meta1-4>, <alt>,
> <ctrl> and <shift>. The problem is where this information actually is and how
> to make it easily available for a newbie.
>
In Gnome, System => Preferences => Keyboard => Layouts => Layout
Options; tries to show the different keyboard options that you have.
Along the way, it kind of points to what is Super key and what is a Win
key etc. It is not really satisfying as a guide, but it was the
simplest demonstration I could find.

> After so many years of using Linux, I myself am still not sure what are super
> and meta keys on my keyboard. I never bothered to do a serious investigation
> of this, but certainly, one should not be supposed to use google and read
> configuration files in order to find out which key is where on the keyboard...
>
> Or am I missing something completely obvious here?
>

A couple of years ago I spent more than two weeks chasing down the real
meaning of the various key designations, key codes, keyboard layouts
etc., etc. The whole subject is quite arcane, convoluted and
prehistoric, loaded with repressed emotional content. It seems to boil
down to a quite common rule employed by the scientific and technological
community. "Those few who truly understand it won't explain it, and
those of us who only understand some of it can't explain it."

End of rant. If anyone wants to respond, be fair to the OP and start a
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Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB

2009-12-06T10:46:19Z

On 12/06/2009 11:46 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote:

>
> My #3 PC is a handed-down Dell PowerEdge sc1420, now running F11,
> which began life as a server for a list I help manage. (The list is now
> hosted elsewhere.) I call it BBB (Big Black Beast), since it's so much
> larger and blacker than any of my others.
>
> I also have a Lite-On external USB DVD-RW drive, which the BBB
> sees perfectly well when it's plugged into it. I can read the files on
> it, which look normal afaict -- in fact, I have installed F12 on two
> other machines from the same DVD.
>
> And I have the boot sequence in the BIOS set to start with the
> DVD drive, in order to upgrade to F12 that way. But it doesn't.
>
> I'm pretty sure I've installed Fedora releases on BBB before,
> using the DVD drive (certainly the first one, when the it first came to
> me).
>
> I have previously tried "preupgrade" on the BBB several times;
> the grub screen now shows an F11 kernel, then the preupgrade option, then
> more F11 kernels. When Anaconda starts at all, it's because I've clicked
> that second (Constantine) option -- and then it hits the dread lack of
> space, and aborts.
>
> Afaict, Anaconda never gets launched from the DVD.
>
> What am I doing wrong? Do I just need to get the Constantine
> option out of there?
>
> If so, is it enough to edit /boot/grub/grub.conf? Or do I have to
> find and dig out everything it refers to? Or what??

I've found that the only way to get my Dell desktop to boot from the USB
key is to turn off all other USB devices. The Dell sees the memory card
slots in my printer before it sees the USB key and reports it can't find
a bootable device. Turning off the printer solves this. So, try
unplugging or powering down all other USB devices and see if the Dell
will boot from the external USB.

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Re: Poor Sound recording on Intel MB DG965SS [partially solved]

2009-12-06T10:11:21Z

Apologies,

I thought that I had tried all of the options before I sent my request. As
it turns out, I had the volume set too high on my tape player and that
resulted in a poor digital recording.

However, I still do not hear the sound from an external input device like
an PMP (my Creative Zen) or a tape player when recording using gnome sound
recorder. It is only when I playback that I hear what I recorded (make
sense?).

Is it possible to simultaneously listen and record at the same time using
gnome sound recorder?

Thanks.

Max Pyziur
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On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Max Pyziur wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Several years ago, sometime during the earlier releases of Fedora, I was
> able to listen to and record from external devices like my Creative Zen
> and Sony cassette tape recorder/player; while playing or recording I could
> hear the sound from the devices on my system speakers.
>
> These days, I'm trying to listen and record from the same devices on my
> F12 Intel MB DG965SS home-built system but only with weak success.
>
> I can play wav and mp3 audio files using mpg321 and mplayer from a
> command line, and xmms and rhytymbox in the gnome desktop.
>
> However, unlike in previous releases (upto FC8?), I can't plug in an
> external device, run it through the line-in line (blue input), and hear it
> through the system's speakers.
>
> I can record from my tape recorder, but with very poor quality; while I'm
> recording, I can't hear it through the system's speakers, as I did
> previously.
>
> I've tried to review fedora-list threads pertinent to the subject. So far,
> the one application that has facilitated recording is the gnome sound
> recorder available through from the gnome-media-apps rpm. However, there
> is a considerable amount of distortion that sounds like poor grounding.
> I've used the cables previously with success and there do not seem to be
> any cracks.
>
> Looking at the sound preference setting, the hardware tab is set to Analog
> Stereo Duplex, the input tab is set to Line-in/line-out and the Internal
> Audio Device radio button is active for sound input.
>
> My MoBo is an Intel MB DG965SS and it has sound built-in (Line-in,
> line-out, and microphone-in).
>
> Any help in this regard would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Max Pyziur
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>

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Re: OT?? Refusal to boot from external USB

2009-12-06T10:08:49Z

On 12/06/2009 11:46 AM, BeartoothHOS wrote:

Try doing a USB boot instead of a DVD boot. I suspect that the BIOS

does not see the USB DVD-RW drive as a DVD drive.

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Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12

2009-12-06T10:04:25Z

On 12/06/2009 10:11 AM, Greg Woods wrote:
>
> The problem is that the device appears to be recognized just fine, but I
> can never establish a sync connection.
>
You can try Sun's VirtualBox. For something like the Palm, that only
appears when you hit the sync button/icon, so you need to create a
USB filter for it. That way, the VM will grab it as soon as it is
created.

Another option would be to use VB with the network in the Bridge
mode, and do a network sync. Pilot-link supports a USB/serial
network sync client.

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Re: Using USB devices in VMs under KVM fc11 or fc12

2009-12-06T09:59:52Z

On 12/06/2009 12:48 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

> I'm using VirtualBox (not the OSE version) to run an XP VM that I use
> with for iTunes/iPhone and a Logitech Harmony remote control. It seems
> to handle USB well.

Funnily enough there is a linux package for that controller too ...
(concordance / congruity) tho I have not tried it as I dont own one.

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