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Fennec: wap/wml support?

by Bernward Meyknecht :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

I have a question concerning wap/wml support for the mobile Mozilla
Fennec browser,
have been told that the Fennec guys are not planning to provide this
support for the
Fennec for Windows Mobile devices.

Are you planning to provide such an add-on for the Fennec on Windows Mobile?
This would be great and make the Fennec an alternative for the Opera browser
for me. Would enjoy to have my favorite desktop browser to be also my
favorite mobile browser, without wap/wml this won't be the case.
Think for mobile devices it is much more important to have the wml support
than for the desktop environment.

Thnks a lot for an answer and best regards,

Bernie



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Re: Fennec: wap/wml support?

by Matthew Wilson-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Bernward Meyknecht wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a question concerning wap/wml support for the mobile Mozilla
> Fennec browser,
> have been told that the Fennec guys are not planning to provide this
> support for the
> Fennec for Windows Mobile devices.
>
> Are you planning to provide such an add-on for the Fennec on Windows
> Mobile?
> This would be great and make the Fennec an alternative for the Opera
> browser
> for me. Would enjoy to have my favorite desktop browser to be also my
> favorite mobile browser, without wap/wml this won't be the case.
> Think for mobile devices it is much more important to have the wml support
> than for the desktop environment.

Hi,

   I don't have a device capable of running Fennec so I can't easily get
this working. If someone can beta-test then I can try to knock up a test
version of the extension to see if it works.

Matthew
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by Bernward Meyknecht :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Matthew,

my device is running Fennec and I could make a beta test of
an extension for wap/wml if you like to prepare one.
Just send me.
Think it is really a necessary feature for a mobile browser.

Bernie


Bernward Meyknecht wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a question concerning wap/wml support for the mobile Mozilla
> Fennec browser,
> have been told that the Fennec guys are not planning to provide this
> support for the
> Fennec for Windows Mobile devices.
>
> Are you planning to provide such an add-on for the Fennec on Windows
> Mobile?
> This would be great and make the Fennec an alternative for the Opera
> browser
> for me. Would enjoy to have my favorite desktop browser to be also my
> favorite mobile browser, without wap/wml this won't be the case.
> Think for mobile devices it is much more important to have the wml support
> than for the desktop environment.

Hi,

   I don't have a device capable of running Fennec so I can't easily get
this working. If someone can beta-test then I can try to knock up a test
version of the extension to see if it works.

Matthew







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Re: Fennec: wap/wml support?

by Matthew Wilson-4 :: Rate this Message:

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bernward.meyknecht@... wrote:
> Hi Matthew,
>
> my device is running Fennec and I could make a beta test of
> an extension for wap/wml if you like to prepare one.
> Just send me.
> Think it is really a necessary feature for a mobile browser.

I've put a release at
http://downloads.mozdev.org/wmlbrowser/wmlbrowser-0.7.20-fennec.xpi

This release should now be making its way out to the mirrors, so if it
doesn't work right away it might be worth trying again in a couple of hours.

Please let me know how it goes.

Matthew
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Re: Fennec: wap/wml support?

by Bernward Meyknecht :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Matthew,

just a fast info and good news for you: installed the wmlbrowser
extension on my device (HTC Touch Pro, Win Mobile)
by visiting the download page, and - the extension has been installed!!

Tested a first wml page and it showed up! The representation is as  I
know  from  the desktop browser.
The wml page contained several cards and all have been shown on one
single browser page.
Fonts are small. Is there a chance to have them bigger?

Can you imagine to have the extension working like showing the cards on
different pages, the wml page will have the links for
navigation between the cards. Thinking of the way how Opera does that:
one card per page and fonts are adapted to be
big enough for easy clicking on links on touchscreen device (also with
bigger fingers... ;-))
Is something like that possible?
For the desktop version it is of course fine to have it like it is.

Will test some other pages this evening.

Thanks a lot for fast provision of the extension and best regards,

Bernie




Matthew Wilson schrieb:

> bernward.meyknecht@... wrote:
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> my device is running Fennec and I could make a beta test of an
>> extension for wap/wml if you like to prepare one.
>> Just send me.
>> Think it is really a necessary feature for a mobile browser.
>
> I've put a release at
> http://downloads.mozdev.org/wmlbrowser/wmlbrowser-0.7.20-fennec.xpi
>
> This release should now be making its way out to the mirrors, so if it
> doesn't work right away it might be worth trying again in a couple of
> hours.
>
> Please let me know how it goes.
>
> Matthew
>
>

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Re: Fennec: wap/wml support?

by Matthew Wilson-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Bernward Meyknecht wrote:
>
> Hi Matthew,
>
> just a fast info and good news for you: installed the wmlbrowser
> extension on my device (HTC Touch Pro, Win Mobile)
> by visiting the download page, and - the extension has been installed!!

Great news. Thanks for testing and reporting back.

> Tested a first wml page and it showed up! The representation is as  I
> know  from  the desktop browser.
> The wml page contained several cards and all have been shown on one
> single browser page.
> Fonts are small. Is there a chance to have them bigger?

The default fonts for the browser should be used.

> Can you imagine to have the extension working like showing the cards on
> different pages, the wml page will have the links for
> navigation between the cards. Thinking of the way how Opera does that:
> one card per page and fonts are adapted to be
> big enough for easy clicking on links on touchscreen device (also with
> bigger fingers... ;-))
> Is something like that possible?

I'd like to be able to, I'm not totally sure whether it's possible.

Matthew

> For the desktop version it is of course fine to have it like it is.
>
> Will test some other pages this evening.
>
> Thanks a lot for fast provision of the extension and best regards,
>
> Bernie
>
>
>
>
> Matthew Wilson schrieb:
>> bernward.meyknecht@... wrote:
>>> Hi Matthew,
>>>
>>> my device is running Fennec and I could make a beta test of an
>>> extension for wap/wml if you like to prepare one.
>>> Just send me.
>>> Think it is really a necessary feature for a mobile browser.
>>
>> I've put a release at
>> http://downloads.mozdev.org/wmlbrowser/wmlbrowser-0.7.20-fennec.xpi
>>
>> This release should now be making its way out to the mirrors, so if it
>> doesn't work right away it might be worth trying again in a couple of
>> hours.
>>
>> Please let me know how it goes.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: Fennec: wap/wml support?

by Matthew Wilson-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Matthew Wilson wrote:

> Bernward Meyknecht wrote:
>>
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> just a fast info and good news for you: installed the wmlbrowser
>> extension on my device (HTC Touch Pro, Win Mobile)
>> by visiting the download page, and - the extension has been installed!!
>
> Great news. Thanks for testing and reporting back.
>
>> Tested a first wml page and it showed up! The representation is as  I
>> know  from  the desktop browser.
>> The wml page contained several cards and all have been shown on one
>> single browser page.
>> Fonts are small. Is there a chance to have them bigger?
>
> The default fonts for the browser should be used.

I found that there is a Fennec release for Windows so I was able to do
some testing myself (although of course there may still be differences
against a real mobile device).

I took the following screenshots:
http://wmlbrowser.mozdev.org/screenshots/fennec1.png (WML)
http://wmlbrowser.mozdev.org/screenshots/fennec2.png (HTML)

Also I found that a scrolling the mousewheel changed the font size. I
don't know how that translates to a mobile device.

Matthew
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