Flash plugin for NetBSD Firefox testers wanted

[David Brownlee-2]

(Thanks to Geert Hendrickx and Shigeki UNO for pointing me at
  Gwenole Beauchesne's quite excellent nspluginwrapper)

NetBSD/i386 users can now use the latest Linux flash plugin including
sound in their native Firefox and similar browsers.

To test:
   - Install multimedia/ns-flash, multimedia/libflashsupport, and
     www/nspluginwrapper from pkgsrc
   - Run "nspluginwrapper -i /usr/pkg/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so"
   - Install & run firefox or another netscape plugin using browser

This has been tested under NetBSD/i386 3.99 and 4.0_BETA, with
native and modular x11.

It should also be possible to run it under NetBSD/amd64, and other
x86 Linux emulating pkgsrc platforms.

Success, and (heaven forfend) failure reports welcomed.

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[Steve Woodford]

On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:28:21 David Brownlee wrote:
> (Thanks to Geert Hendrickx and Shigeki UNO for pointing me at
>   Gwenole Beauchesne's quite excellent nspluginwrapper)
>
> NetBSD/i386 users can now use the latest Linux flash plugin including
> sound in their native Firefox and similar browsers.

Just tried it with Konqueror (from kde-3.5.6) on -current. It works,
including sound, but has a tendency to bomb out at random, dropping a
npviewer.bin.core when doing so.

I've no idea how to go about debugging this.

Cheers, Steve

[David Brownlee]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Steve Woodford wrote:

> On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:28:21 David Brownlee wrote:
>> (Thanks to Geert Hendrickx and Shigeki UNO for pointing me at
>>   Gwenole Beauchesne's quite excellent nspluginwrapper)
>>
>> NetBSD/i386 users can now use the latest Linux flash plugin including
>> sound in their native Firefox and similar browsers.
>
> Just tried it with Konqueror (from kde-3.5.6) on -current. It works,
> including sound, but has a tendency to bomb out at random, dropping a
> npviewer.bin.core when doing so.
>
> I've no idea how to go about debugging this.

  I've had two similar reports of people running 4.99.15, in
  one case he tried a linux firefox+plugin and had the same
  issue (again under NetBSD), so it sounds like an issue in
  current. I noticed Andy made some more fixes recently, are
  you on 4.99.16 by any chance?

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[Steve Woodford]

On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:57:50 David Brownlee wrote:

> are you on 4.99.16 by any chance?

4.99.15

Cheers, Steve

[David Brownlee]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Steve Woodford wrote:

> On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:57:50 David Brownlee wrote:
>
>> are you on 4.99.16 by any chance?
>
> 4.99.15

  So were they. One of them is updating to 4.99.16 as I type,
  so hopefully we'll know if it helped later...

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[Steven Bellovin]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:57:50 +0000 (GMT)
David Brownlee <abs@...> wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Steve Woodford wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:28:21 David Brownlee wrote:
> >> (Thanks to Geert Hendrickx and Shigeki UNO for pointing me at
> >>   Gwenole Beauchesne's quite excellent nspluginwrapper)
> >>
> >> NetBSD/i386 users can now use the latest Linux flash plugin
> >> including sound in their native Firefox and similar browsers.
> >
> > Just tried it with Konqueror (from kde-3.5.6) on -current. It works,
> > including sound, but has a tendency to bomb out at random, dropping
> > a npviewer.bin.core when doing so.
> >
> > I've no idea how to go about debugging this.
>
>   I've had two similar reports of people running 4.99.15, in
>   one case he tried a linux firefox+plugin and had the same
>   issue (again under NetBSD), so it sounds like an issue in
>   current. I noticed Andy made some more fixes recently, are
>   you on 4.99.16 by any chance?
>

I have some core dumps from 4.99.13.  (Actually, I thought I had
updated my kernel past that.)

The other problem I've experienced is that prefbar -- one of my
favorite extensions -- doesn't recognize this as flash, so I can't
selectively disable it.


                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Steve Woodford wrote:
> Just tried it with Konqueror (from kde-3.5.6) on -current. It
> works, including sound, but has a tendency to bomb out at random,
> dropping a npviewer.bin.core when doing so.

I tried it with Konqueror on 4.99.9 and it seemed to work as well as
with firefox but I did have to hack artsdsp to effectively be a no-op
before I could get that far (otherwise nspluginviewer was segfaulting
before even getting to the nspluginwrapper stuff).

cheers
mark

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Mark Davies wrote:
> I tried it with Konqueror on 4.99.9 and it seemed to work as well
> as with firefox but I did have to hack artsdsp to effectively be a
> no-op before I could get that far (otherwise nspluginviewer was
> segfaulting before even getting to the nspluginwrapper stuff).

Of course I could have just unticked the box that said "Use artsdsp to
pipe plugin sound through aRts".

cheers
mark

[Steven Bellovin]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:10:48 +0000 (GMT)
David Brownlee <abs@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Steve Woodford wrote:
>
> > On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:57:50 David Brownlee wrote:
> >
> >> are you on 4.99.16 by any chance?
> >
> > 4.99.15
>
>   So were they. One of them is updating to 4.99.16 as I type,
>   so hopefully we'll know if it helped later...
>

It didn't help me -- it still dumps core very, very frequently, at
least on Youtube.

                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

[David Brownlee]

On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:10:48 +0000 (GMT)
> David Brownlee <abs@...> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Steve Woodford wrote:
>>
>>> On Thursday 22 March 2007 23:57:50 David Brownlee wrote:
>>>
>>>> are you on 4.99.16 by any chance?
>>>
>>> 4.99.15
>>
>>   So were they. One of them is updating to 4.99.16 as I type,
>>   so hopefully we'll know if it helped later...
>>
> It didn't help me -- it still dumps core very, very frequently, at
> least on Youtube.

  Are you running a -gtk1 firefox - Someone switched from
  firefox2-gtk1 to firefox2 and thst fixed their issue...

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[Steven Bellovin]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:05:21 +0000 (GMT)
David Brownlee <abs@...> wrote:


> > It didn't help me -- it still dumps core very, very frequently, at
> > least on Youtube.
>
>   Are you running a -gtk1 firefox - Someone switched from
>   firefox2-gtk1 to firefox2 and thst fixed their issue...
>
Nope:

Information for firefox-2.0.0.3:

Comment:
Lightweight gecko-based web browser

Requires:
xorg-libs>=6.9.0nb2
jpeg>=6bnb2
libIDL>=0.8.6nb1
gtk2+>=2.8.17nb1
cairo>=1.0.4nb1
png>=1.2.9nb2
Xft2>=2.1.7nb2

I could try to rebuild everything again on 4.99.16, I suppose.

I tried running gdb, but it indicated it couldn't be very help.  For
what it's worth, though, here's the trace:

(gdb) bt
#0  0xbae2f3a2 in ?? ()
#1  0x080872a0 in ?? ()
#2  0xb9d01900 in ?? ()
#3  0xb9d0190c in ?? ()
#4  0x00000000 in ?? ()



                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

[Steve Woodford]

On Friday 23 March 2007 10:05, David Brownlee wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> > It didn't help me -- it still dumps core very, very frequently, at
> > least on Youtube.
>
>   Are you running a -gtk1 firefox - Someone switched from
>   firefox2-gtk1 to firefox2 and thst fixed their issue...

FWIW, firefox-linux (linux binary running under emulation) crashes in
pretty much the same way. So it definitely looks like a kernel
COMPAT_LINUX issue.

Cheers, Steve

[David Brownlee]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Steve Woodford wrote:

> On Friday 23 March 2007 10:05, David Brownlee wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Mar 2007, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>>> It didn't help me -- it still dumps core very, very frequently, at
>>> least on Youtube.
>>
>>   Are you running a -gtk1 firefox - Someone switched from
>>   firefox2-gtk1 to firefox2 and thst fixed their issue...
>
> FWIW, firefox-linux (linux binary running under emulation) crashes in
> pretty much the same way. So it definitely looks like a kernel
> COMPAT_LINUX issue.

  OK. I wonder if its an newlock2 issue or a more general
  compat_linux breakage. Could you file a PR?

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[Lubomir Sedlacik]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 01:18:31PM +0000, David Brownlee wrote:
> OK. I wonder if its an newlock2 issue or a more general compat_linux
> breakage. Could you file a PR?

the linux firefox binary is this unstable with flash as long as i can
remember (which means for years), at least for me.

regards,

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[David Brownlee]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Lubomir Sedlacik wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 01:18:31PM +0000, David Brownlee wrote:
>> OK. I wonder if its an newlock2 issue or a more general compat_linux
>> breakage. Could you file a PR?
>
> the linux firefox binary is this unstable with flash as long as i can
> remember (which means for years), at least for me.

  OK, though we are seeing a number of people finding it working
  well under NetBSD-4, and every under 4.99.15 finding it crashes
  very quickly, so it appears that something has changed...

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[Steven Bellovin]

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:09:10 +0000 (GMT)
David Brownlee <abs@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Lubomir Sedlacik wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 01:18:31PM +0000, David Brownlee wrote:
> >> OK. I wonder if its an newlock2 issue or a more general
> >> compat_linux breakage. Could you file a PR?
> >
> > the linux firefox binary is this unstable with flash as long as i
> > can remember (which means for years), at least for me.
>
>   OK, though we are seeing a number of people finding it
> working well under NetBSD-4, and every under 4.99.15 finding it
> crashes very quickly, so it appears that something has changed...
>

This is *much* worse than flash with firefox-bin under 3.1, or under
-current as of a few months ago.  In fact, it's unusable.  Go to
youtube.com, watch almost anything, and it will probably die within a
minute.


                --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb

[David Brownlee]

  As an update to the previous message. multimedia/ns-flash
  9.0.31nb1 or later now has an nspluginwrapper option (enabled
  by default for non Linux x86 platforms).

  It will automatically:
   - install multimedia/libflashsupport and www/nspluginwrapper
   - Run "nspluginwrapper -i \
     ${PREFIX}/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so" on install
     and cleanup on uninstall

  Effectively this means you can install firefox and ns-flash and
  have flash pages 'Just Work'.

  Known to work:
  - NetBSD/i386 3.99 and 4.0_BETA
  - modular, native, and xorg x11
  - www/firefox, www/firefox2

  Known not to work:
  - NetBSD/i386 4.99.15, 4.99.16
  - www/firefox-gtk1, www/firefox2-gtk1

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[jcarnat]

Hi,

I'm using NetBSD 4.0_BETA2/i386 with the following packages:
xorg-6.9.0nb3
firefox-2.0.0.2
libflashsupport-1.0.2098
nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.3
ns-flash-9.0.31nb2

When I browse http://www.flash.com/, I don't see the flash part.
On the xterm where I start firefox, I can see:
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_NewStream() wait for reply: Connection closed
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_URLNotify() invoke: Connection closed
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Destroy() invoke: Connection closed
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Destroy() invoke: Connection closed
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Destroy() invoke: Connection closed
*** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NP_Shutdown() invoke: Connection closed

Any ideas ?
TIA,
        Jo

On Fri, Mar 23 2007 - 19:11, David Brownlee wrote:

> As an update to the previous message. multimedia/ns-flash
> 9.0.31nb1 or later now has an nspluginwrapper option (enabled
> by default for non Linux x86 platforms).
>
> It will automatically:
>  - install multimedia/libflashsupport and www/nspluginwrapper
>  - Run "nspluginwrapper -i \
>    ${PREFIX}/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so" on install
>    and cleanup on uninstall
>
> Effectively this means you can install firefox and ns-flash and
> have flash pages 'Just Work'.
>
> Known to work:
> - NetBSD/i386 3.99 and 4.0_BETA
> - modular, native, and xorg x11
> - www/firefox, www/firefox2
>
> Known not to work:
> - NetBSD/i386 4.99.15, 4.99.16
> - www/firefox-gtk1, www/firefox2-gtk1
>
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[Mark Thomas-2]

On 3/22/07, David Brownlee <abs@...> wrote:
> (Thanks to Geert Hendrickx and Shigeki UNO for pointing me at
>   Gwenole Beauchesne's quite excellent nspluginwrapper)
>
> NetBSD/i386 users can now use the latest Linux flash plugin including
> sound in their native Firefox and similar browsers.


>
> Success, and (heaven forfend) failure reports welcomed.

Works here most of the time on 3.1 and Firefox 1.5.0.9.

thanks!

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[David Brownlee]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2007, Joel CARNAT wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm using NetBSD 4.0_BETA2/i386 with the following packages:
> xorg-6.9.0nb3
> firefox-2.0.0.2
> libflashsupport-1.0.2098
> nspluginwrapper-0.9.91.3
> ns-flash-9.0.31nb2
>
> When I browse http://www.flash.com/, I don't see the flash part.
> On the xterm where I start firefox, I can see:
> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_NewStream() wait for reply: Connection closed
> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_URLNotify() invoke: Connection closed
> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Destroy() invoke: Connection closed
> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Destroy() invoke: Connection closed
> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_Destroy() invoke: Connection closed
> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NP_Shutdown() invoke: Connection closed

  What does about:plugins report? It should include a section:

     Shockwave Flash

     File name: npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
     Shockwave Flash 9.0 r31

     MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
     application/x-shockwave-flash Shockwave Flash swf Yes
     application/futuresplash FutureSplash Player spl Yes

  How about: nspluginwrapper -l

     /usr/pkg/lib/firefox/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
       Original plugin: /usr/pkg/lib/netscape/plugins/libflashplayer.so
  Wrapper version string: 0.9.91.3

  What version of suse_base doe you have installed?
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