Food weight

[Peggy Kinnetz]

Quick question-- although probably not a quick answer. How much weight does everyone take in food per day? Please mention how big you are, and if male or female. I'm an avg. 5'6" woman.  I've just finished packing for a week's trip, and that food bag is heavy! For four days, its nearly five lb and the maildrop for three days is also averaging about a lb & a quarter a day.   And that is after I took out some snacks, but I dare not drop too much more or risk going hungry.

I'm trying to figure out some ways to cut the weight for next trip, but at this point the obvious ones I've done, such as dehydrating, using snack size baggies instead of full size, etc. Right now, I'm looking for a cheap source for vinegar powder to replace the wet stuff. Other packets I'd like to drop are the mayo packets, and hot sauce (vinegar and hot pepper ought to do the job here). Any sources or substitutes for mayo packets?

Is there a general formula out there to calculate nutrition vs weight?

What are your favorite ways to cut weight in this area? maybe i've missed a few points along the way.

Mama Llama

[Jerry Goller]

Actually, for me, at a pound and a quarter per day you aren't doing bad.
Carrying all freeze dried or dehydrated is about the only way to do lighter.


Jerry
6' 220 but your body metabolism has greater impact than your height and
weight.


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Subject: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

Quick question-- although probably not a quick answer. How much weight does
everyone take in food per day? Please mention how big you are, and if male
or female. I'm an avg. 5'6" woman.  I've just finished packing for a week's
trip, and that food bag is heavy! For four days, its nearly five lb and the
maildrop for three days is also averaging about a lb & a quarter a day.
And that is after I took out some snacks, but I dare not drop too much more
or risk going hungry.

I'm trying to figure out some ways to cut the weight for next trip, but at
this point the obvious ones I've done, such as dehydrating, using snack size
baggies instead of full size, etc. Right now, I'm looking for a cheap source
for vinegar powder to replace the wet stuff. Other packets I'd like to drop
are the mayo packets, and hot sauce (vinegar and hot pepper ought to do the
job here). Any sources or substitutes for mayo packets?

Is there a general formula out there to calculate nutrition vs weight?

What are your favorite ways to cut weight in this area? maybe i've missed a
few points along the way.

Mama Llama



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[James D. Marco-2]

Hi Mama,
        Like Jerry says, a pound and a quarter is doing real good.
Short of switching to specialized and unappetizing food, This is
exactly what I figure: 2..25-2.5 pounds for two people per day.
        There doesn't seem to be any real formula for weight vs
nutrition out there. I am about 180#, 5'9", male. This sorta
depends on your age, metabolism, where you are hiking, how
you hike, etc. 'Corse, if you have to carry water, anyway....it doesn't
matter.... I sort'a doubt you have missed anything if you are down
to a pound and a quarter.
        I might add a little candy, but I am diabetic, soo, pushing
things too far could result in low blood sugar, despite getting
enough calories. You will have your own needs/preferences.
        I like a lot of fats and oils in my hiking diet. Soo for a percent
break down of target 4000 calorie diet(level hiking):
        40-50% comes from fats and oils
        20-30% comes from proteins
        20-30% comes from complex carbs
        This is what I try for ....
                Dried beef, pepperoni, jerky, cheese, oatmeal, rice,
macaroni, oatmeal, cocoa mix, protein bars, dried veggies,
biscuit mix, a couple chocolate bars/protein bars, chicken soups,
cashews, peanuts, dried eggs .... and lots of instant coffee.
These are the things usually packed for most extended trips. If
you need a little more weight savings, you can dehydrate the
meat and cheese a bit further in the fridge. (Remove it from the
wrapper, and cut it up into bite sized pieces and lay it out on
trays for a couple days before you pack it. This will save a couple
ounces per day, depending.)
        You can cook lots of good meals with this.
        My thoughts only . . .
                jdm
At 03:36 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:

>Actually, for me, at a pound and a quarter per day you aren't doing bad.
>Carrying all freeze dried or dehydrated is about the only way to do lighter.
>
>
>Jerry
>6' 220 but your body metabolism has greater impact than your height and
>weight.
>
>
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>From: BackpackingLight@...
>[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of pkinnetz
>Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 12:36 PM
>To: BackpackingLight@...
>Subject: [BackpackingLight] Food weight
>
>Quick question-- although probably not a quick answer. How much weight does
>everyone take in food per day? Please mention how big you are, and if male
>or female. I'm an avg. 5'6" woman.  I've just finished packing for a week's
>trip, and that food bag is heavy! For four days, its nearly five lb and the
>maildrop for three days is also averaging about a lb & a quarter a day.
>And that is after I took out some snacks, but I dare not drop too much more
>or risk going hungry.
>
>I'm trying to figure out some ways to cut the weight for next trip, but at
>this point the obvious ones I've done, such as dehydrating, using snack size
>baggies instead of full size, etc. Right now, I'm looking for a cheap source
>for vinegar powder to replace the wet stuff. Other packets I'd like to drop
>are the mayo packets, and hot sauce (vinegar and hot pepper ought to do the
>job here). Any sources or substitutes for mayo packets?
>
>Is there a general formula out there to calculate nutrition vs weight?
>
>What are your favorite ways to cut weight in this area? maybe i've missed a
>few points along the way.
>
>Mama Llama

[Jerry Goller]

 
You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small tubes
of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream Life Savers.

Insulin dependant?

Jerry

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Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight


        I might add a little candy, but I am diabetic, soo, pushing things
too far could result in low blood sugar, despite getting enough calories.
 

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[Mark Verber]

As others have indicated... "It depends".  The typical rule of thumb
is 1-2.5lbs/day depending on who you ask.  1.25lb/day is on the lower
end of what people typically take. My 3 season food is typically
around 16-18oz though JDM might describe it unappetizing. I have some
notes I have made about food at:

http://www.verber.com/mark/outdoors/backpack/kitchen.html#food

If you are trying to minimize food weight there are two basic issues:

#1 how many calories are needed: there are lots of formulas to do this
which get affected by how much body fat you carry and how hard you are
going to be working.,

#2 how much weight for those calories: when it comes to calories, fats
are denser than protein which is denser than carbs.  People who are
trying to minimize food weight do things like add olive oil to food
whenever possible.

--mark

[Cara Lin Bridgman]

In college, in the outdoor programs, we were recommended to add powdered
milk to everything.  If it is full-cream powdered milk, then it is a
good source of fat as well as protein.

CL

Mark Verber wrote:
> People who are
> trying to minimize food weight do things like add olive oil to food
> whenever possible.

[dicentra]

Another option to add fat/calories is coconut creme powder (avail at asian markets). It can be added to oatmeal, beverages, dinners, soups... Good stuff!

~Dicentra
 
http://www.onepanwonders.com ~ Backcountry Cooking at its Finest
http://www.freewebs.com/dicentra

 




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From: Cara Lin Bridgman <shokulan@...>
To: BackpackingLight@...
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 10:36:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

 
In college, in the outdoor programs, we were recommended to add powdered
milk to everything. If it is full-cream powdered milk, then it is a
good source of fat as well as protein.

CL

Mark Verber wrote:
> People who are
> trying to minimize food weight do things like add olive oil to food
> whenever possible.





     

[Jerry Goller]

Yup, and it helps make a great curry sauce for FD chicken.
 
Jerry
 
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Another option to add fat/calories is coconut creme powder (avail at asian
markets). It can be added to oatmeal, beverages, dinners, soups... Good
stuff!
 
~Dicentra
 
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Cooking at its Finest
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From: Cara Lin Bridgman <shokulan@...>
To: BackpackingLight@...
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 10:36:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

 

In college, in the outdoor programs, we were recommended to add powdered
milk to everything. If it is full-cream powdered milk, then it is a
good source of fat as well as protein.

CL

Mark Verber wrote:
> People who are
> trying to minimize food weight do things like add olive oil to food
> whenever possible.









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[Specracer]

This will depend a lot based on menus, but I plan 2lbs/day. I'm 210 and 6ft.
I bring real sugar, powdered milk for tea, foil meat packs, and even a cheesecake mix from time to time.
I just did a 10 day trip in New Mexico and never went hungry, but I also lost 16lbs.  I've never eaten enough
to offset what I burn, but I always have a menu of foods I like and enough so I don't feel empty.  I put a lot
of effort into foods I like and don't worry about weight. I can get down to 1.5lbs/day if I skimp on some
favorites.  These numbers assume I unpack and dispose of all packaging.  I repack everything into ziplocks.

Hope that helps.
Derek




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From: pkinnetz <kinnetz@...>
To: BackpackingLight@...
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 11:35:30 AM
Subject: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

 
Quick question-- although probably not a quick answer. How much weight does everyone take in food per day? Please mention how big you are, and if male or female. I'm an avg. 5'6" woman. I've just finished packing for a week's trip, and that food bag is heavy! For four days, its nearly five lb and the maildrop for three days is also averaging about a lb & a quarter a day. And that is after I took out some snacks, but I dare not drop too much more or risk going hungry.

I'm trying to figure out some ways to cut the weight for next trip, but at this point the obvious ones I've done, such as dehydrating, using snack size baggies instead of full size, etc. Right now, I'm looking for a cheap source for vinegar powder to replace the wet stuff. Other packets I'd like to drop are the mayo packets, and hot sauce (vinegar and hot pepper ought to do the job here). Any sources or substitutes for mayo packets?

Is there a general formula out there to calculate nutrition vs weight?

What are your favorite ways to cut weight in this area? maybe i've missed a few points along the way.

Mama Llama





     

[Specracer]

I like my powdered milk mixed with a coffee creamer.  The fat gives the milk a better consistency. 
I've carried olive oil for years.  I put in on everything.

Derek




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From: Cara Lin Bridgman <shokulan@...>
To: BackpackingLight@...
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 10:36:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

 
In college, in the outdoor programs, we were recommended to add powdered
milk to everything. If it is full-cream powdered milk, then it is a
good source of fat as well as protein.

CL

Mark Verber wrote:
> People who are
> trying to minimize food weight do things like add olive oil to food
> whenever possible.





     

[James D. Marco-2]

Jerry,
        No...no insulin, yet...just pills...luckily. But on occasion I will
get down to the low 40's before I realize it.
         jdm
At 09:07 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>
>You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small tubes
>of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream Life Savers.
>
>Insulin dependant?
>
>Jerry

[jbuchus]

--- In BackpackingLight@..., "pkinnetz" <kinnetz@...> wrote:

> Is there a general formula out there to calculate nutrition vs weight?
>
> What are your favorite ways to cut weight in this area? maybe i've missed a few points along the way.
>
> Mama Llama
>

There is a sort of formula for weight and nutrition as indexed by calories (not vitamins, minerals, ...), but it assumes you are quite knowledgeable about food, or can read food labes quite well.

Calorie Computing
If everything is in packages with labels, just add up the calories on the labels. Your calorie needs depend upon your metabolism, weight and activity. A rule of thumb will ballpark daily calorie needs while backpacking at 3,000 to 4,000+ calories per day. You may also use any of the books on calorie counts for foods and add up the entries from that.

Calories come from certain macronutrients. There ae some non-calorie macronutrients to dispense with first.

Non-Calorie Macronutrients
Fiber
Water
....

Calorie Carrying Macronutrients
Fat 9 Calories per gram
Protein 4 Calories per gram
Carbohydrates 4 Calories per gram
Alcohol varies 3 to 7 Calories per gram

Meat, for example, is often about 25% protein, some percent fat and the balance water.

General Guesstimate Approach
About 1.5 lbs of food per day
About 1.75 lbs of food per day
About 2 lbs of food per day.

Depends.... on the type of food you carry, Dehydrated or freeze dried has virtually little water, so no wasted weight...... how much work you will do when backpacking which includes your metabolism and the nature of the trip and trail such as how many miles, how many hills, total weight carried.....

For a weekend trip, you can go hungry and be OK and you can carry too much food and be OK too. Just the next time carry less or more whichever is appropriate.

For a resupply trip, often you can buy more food where you get resupplied. If you send yourself more food than you'll need, based on how you feel after you get to the resupply point, you can either carry the extra food, send it back or give it away. If you don't send yourself enough food, hopefully you can buy some more before you go back to hiking. You might just tough it out on too little food too.

It is really best to already have an idea of how much food you need, based on prior experience, before going off on a resupply long trip. Experience is good to have.

[scriv.ener]

The National Outdoor Leadership School, nols.edu, suggests 1.5 to 2 pounds a day, higher end in winter, lower in summer.  Some of your more general questions (not about particular supplies, as NOLS tends to simply purchase from a grocery store rather than a specialized supplier) are answered in this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0811731081

But, of course, it's not that simple.  Those out for more than a few days discover that under stress appetite diminishes for a while and then returns with a vengeance.

How long (and vigorous) a hike are you talking?

--- In BackpackingLight@..., "pkinnetz" <kinnetz@...> wrote:

>
> Quick question-- although probably not a quick answer. How much weight does everyone take in food per day? Please mention how big you are, and if male or female. I'm an avg. 5'6" woman.  I've just finished packing for a week's trip, and that food bag is heavy! For four days, its nearly five lb and the maildrop for three days is also averaging about a lb & a quarter a day.   And that is after I took out some snacks, but I dare not drop too much more or risk going hungry.
>
> I'm trying to figure out some ways to cut the weight for next trip, but at this point the obvious ones I've done, such as dehydrating, using snack size baggies instead of full size, etc. Right now, I'm looking for a cheap source for vinegar powder to replace the wet stuff. Other packets I'd like to drop are the mayo packets, and hot sauce (vinegar and hot pepper ought to do the job here). Any sources or substitutes for mayo packets?
>
> Is there a general formula out there to calculate nutrition vs weight?
>
> What are your favorite ways to cut weight in this area? maybe i've missed a few points along the way.
>
> Mama Llama
>

[Jon Belcher]

Mama
I carry 1.5# per day.   5 ft 7 - 165lbs
My down fall is my hot cocoa, 2 cups in the morning with my oatmeal and 2 cups before going to bed each night. That makes for 4 oz per day of empty calories plus fuel, but it helps keep my spirits high.

If you real want to cut weight to extreme follow Scott Williamson example and leave the stove at home.

Here is a quote from
 http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=130003862332
regarding Scott and Adam's latest record PCT thur hike.

*- FOOD – What did you eat? How many calories did you need each day *and how did you make sure to get them without ending up lugging a *heavy pack?

**I wish I knew my exact caloric intake, but I don't. I more know *what I need to eat on a daily basis so as not to go hungry or bonk. *I pretty much dumped something in my gut every hour on the hour. I *am a big fan of Hammer Nutrition products, Clif Bar and Pro Bar. I *also carried dried fruit, dark chocolate, pistachios, cheese, *tortilla chips, and dehydrated refried beans. The beans would be *re-hydrated by pouring them into a plastic container, adding water *and giving them about 30 minutes. Then we would crush corn tortilla *chips in them, little bit of queso and bam! You have cold beans. I *cannot claim this brainchild, it is Scott Williamsons own imprint on *the ultralight hiker scene. No need to carry a stove, stove fuel, *pot and pot stand; no measuring fuel, no lighting stoves and no *stirring. Food definitely outweighed gear carried, however it is *like fuel in a rocket. As it diminishes, the miles come easier. If *we had done our food correctly, we came into town running on vapors.

To learn more on Scott and his methods Google "Scoot Williamson PCT"

"til later
Jon

--- In BackpackingLight@..., "pkinnetz" <kinnetz@...> wrote:

>
> Quick question-- although probably not a quick answer. How much weight does everyone take in food per day? Please mention how big you are, and if male or female. I'm an avg. 5'6" woman.  I've just finished packing for a week's trip, and that food bag is heavy! For four days, its nearly five lb and the maildrop for three days is also averaging about a lb & a quarter a day.   And that is after I took out some snacks, but I dare not drop too much more or risk going hungry.
>
> I'm trying to figure out some ways to cut the weight for next trip, but at this point the obvious ones I've done, such as dehydrating, using snack size baggies instead of full size, etc. Right now, I'm looking for a cheap source for vinegar powder to replace the wet stuff. Other packets I'd like to drop are the mayo packets, and hot sauce (vinegar and hot pepper ought to do the job here). Any sources or substitutes for mayo packets?
>
> Is there a general formula out there to calculate nutrition vs weight?
>
> What are your favorite ways to cut weight in this area? maybe i've missed a few points along the way.
>
> Mama Llama
>

[Jerry Goller]

I'm usually shaking by the 50s. So far I've been able to tell when I'm at 80
or below pretty easily.

I'm insulin dependant.

Jerry


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-----Original Message-----
From: BackpackingLight@...
[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of James D. Marco
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:57 AM
To: BackpackingLight@...
Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

Jerry,
        No...no insulin, yet...just pills...luckily. But on occasion I will
get down to the low 40's before I realize it.
         jdm
At 09:07 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>
>You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small
>tubes of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream Life
Savers.
>
>Insulin dependant?
>
>Jerry



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[James D. Marco-2]

Jerry,
        Yeah, 80's is OK...wakes me up a little. That's when I eat a couple
gum drops or lifesavers. 70 or less and I have a hard time remembering
which day of the week it is, though months are easy...know I need sugar,
though.
        How do you keep your needles?
        One of lifes little pleasures...
                jdm
At 01:08 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
>I'm usually shaking by the 50s. So far I've been able to tell when I'm at 80
>or below pretty easily.

       

>I'm insulin dependant.
>
>Jerry
>
>
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>reviews and tests on the planet.
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: BackpackingLight@...
>[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of James D. Marco
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:57 AM
>To: BackpackingLight@...
>Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight
>
>Jerry,
>        No...no insulin, yet...just pills...luckily. But on occasion I will
>get down to the low 40's before I realize it.
>         jdm
>At 09:07 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small
>>tubes of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream Life
>Savers.
>>
>>Insulin dependant?
>>
>>Jerry

[Sheldon Miller-2]

This exchange between James and Jerry provides an opening for a question
I've been meaning to ask someone. My glucometer goes wacky below about 50 F.
How do you check blood sugar when in gets cold?

Sheldon
----- Original Message -----
From: "James D. Marco" <jdm27@...>
To: <BackpackingLight@...>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

> Jerry,
>        Yeah, 80's is OK...wakes me up a little. That's when I eat a couple
> gum drops or lifesavers. 70 or less and I have a hard time remembering
> which day of the week it is, though months are easy...know I need sugar,
> though.
>        How do you keep your needles?
>        One of lifes little pleasures...
>                jdm
> At 01:08 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
>>I'm usually shaking by the 50s. So far I've been able to tell when I'm at
>>80
>>or below pretty easily.
>
>
>
>
>>I'm insulin dependant.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>
>>http://www.BackpackGearTest.org : the most comprehensive interactive gear
>>reviews and tests on the planet.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: BackpackingLight@...
>>[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of James D. Marco
>>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:57 AM
>>To: BackpackingLight@...
>>Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight
>>
>>Jerry,
>>        No...no insulin, yet...just pills...luckily. But on occasion I
>> will
>>get down to the low 40's before I realize it.
>>         jdm
>>At 09:07 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>>
>>>You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small
>>>tubes of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream Life
>>Savers.
>>>
>>>Insulin dependant?
>>>
>>>Jerry
>
>
>
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[Jerry Goller]

The needles are easy. Since the needle and plunger both have caps on them
they are no problem. I store the used ones in a disposable water bottle.
Keeping my insulin cool is easy, too. I use an evaporative pouch with gel in
it. I wet it thoroughly and it will keep my insulin cool for a couple of
days, depending on the humidity.

The tricky part is keeping it from freezing in winter but still below 90
F........

Jerry


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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:29 PM
To: BackpackingLight@...
Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

Jerry,
        Yeah, 80's is OK...wakes me up a little. That's when I eat a couple
gum drops or lifesavers. 70 or less and I have a hard time remembering which
day of the week it is, though months are easy...know I need sugar, though.
        How do you keep your needles?
        One of lifes little pleasures...
                jdm
At 01:08 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
>I'm usually shaking by the 50s. So far I've been able to tell when I'm
>at 80 or below pretty easily.

       

>I'm insulin dependant.
>
>Jerry
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: BackpackingLight@...
>[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of James D. Marco
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:57 AM
>To: BackpackingLight@...
>Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight
>
>Jerry,
>        No...no insulin, yet...just pills...luckily. But on occasion I
>will get down to the low 40's before I realize it.
>         jdm
>At 09:07 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>
>>You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small
>>tubes of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream
>>Life
>Savers.
>>
>>Insulin dependant?
>>
>>Jerry

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[Jerry Goller]

It stays inside my coat during the day and in my sleeping bag at night. I
have a small, relatively light kit I carry for all my diabetic supplies. The
weight is annoying but, what can you say....  =o(

I use the long lasting insulin so rigorous testing isn't absolutely
necessary for me. I worry much more about hypoglycemia than being too high.
I can tell low blood sugar before it starts to effect my judgment.....so
far.

I mostly just wing it. I know about how hard I've been working and keep a
steady intake of gorp without over doing it. It's worked so far.....   ;o)
 

Jerry

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-----Original Message-----
From: BackpackingLight@...
[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of Sheldon Miller
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:32 PM
To: BackpackingLight@...
Subject: Re: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

This exchange between James and Jerry provides an opening for a question
I've been meaning to ask someone. My glucometer goes wacky below about 50 F.

How do you check blood sugar when in gets cold?

Sheldon
----- Original Message -----
From: "James D. Marco" <jdm27@...>
To: <BackpackingLight@...>
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight

> Jerry,
>        Yeah, 80's is OK...wakes me up a little. That's when I eat a couple
> gum drops or lifesavers. 70 or less and I have a hard time remembering
> which day of the week it is, though months are easy...know I need sugar,
> though.
>        How do you keep your needles?
>        One of lifes little pleasures...
>                jdm
> At 01:08 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
>>I'm usually shaking by the 50s. So far I've been able to tell when I'm at
>>80
>>or below pretty easily.
>
>
>
>
>>I'm insulin dependant.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>
>>http://www.BackpackGearTest.org : the most comprehensive interactive gear
>>reviews and tests on the planet.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: BackpackingLight@...
>>[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of James D. Marco
>>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:57 AM
>>To: BackpackingLight@...
>>Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight
>>
>>Jerry,
>>        No...no insulin, yet...just pills...luckily. But on occasion I
>> will
>>get down to the low 40's before I realize it.
>>         jdm
>>At 09:07 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>>
>>>You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small
>>>tubes of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream Life
>>Savers.
>>>
>>>Insulin dependant?
>>>
>>>Jerry
>
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[James D. Marco-2]

Sheldon,
        Keep it in your pocket,  an inside pocket. For me, it is not a big
deal... more for record keeping, watching trends.  If you are on insulin,
you need it to adjust your dosage...I will turn it over to Jerry. But, I would
not be surprised to find out he carries two. You really need them. Though,
you can get a feel for where your blood sugar is, it can be dangerous
to guess with a needle.
        jdm

At 03:32 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

>This exchange between James and Jerry provides an opening for a question
>I've been meaning to ask someone. My glucometer goes wacky below about 50 F.
>How do you check blood sugar when in gets cold?
>
>Sheldon
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "James D. Marco" <jdm27@...>
>To: <BackpackingLight@...>
>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 3:28 PM
>Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight
>
>
>> Jerry,
>>        Yeah, 80's is OK...wakes me up a little. That's when I eat a couple
>> gum drops or lifesavers. 70 or less and I have a hard time remembering
>> which day of the week it is, though months are easy...know I need sugar,
>> though.
>>        How do you keep your needles?
>>        One of lifes little pleasures...
>>                jdm
>> At 01:08 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
>>>I'm usually shaking by the 50s. So far I've been able to tell when I'm at
>>>80
>>>or below pretty easily.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I'm insulin dependant.
>>>
>>>Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.BackpackGearTest.org : the most comprehensive interactive gear
>>>reviews and tests on the planet.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: BackpackingLight@...
>>>[mailto:BackpackingLight@...] On Behalf Of James D. Marco
>>>Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 1:57 AM
>>>To: BackpackingLight@...
>>>Subject: RE: [BackpackingLight] Food weight
>>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>        No...no insulin, yet...just pills...luckily. But on occasion I
>>> will
>>>get down to the low 40's before I realize it.
>>>         jdm
>>>At 09:07 PM 10/18/2009, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>You, too, huh. I'm the only backpacking I know that carries two small
>>>>tubes of cake icing in one of his hipbelt pockets along with cream Life
>>>Savers.
>>>>
>>>>Insulin dependant?
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>
>>
>>
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