Free Panorama viewer for iPhone

[pangeasoft]

As many of you probably know, Apple is opening the App Store next week which allows
iPhone and iPod Touch owners to download all sorts of cool apps to run on their device.  
As you also know, the web browser on the iPhone does not work with any Flash,  Java or
QTVR panorama viewers.

So, I've written "PangeaVR" for the iPhone.  PangeaVR will be FREE, and it uses OpenGL to
display a fullscreen VR pano.  It's really, really cool!  In addition to being a viewer, it is also
a VR Panorama database which gets updated every time the app is launched.  The app is
almost done, and I'm trying very hard to have it completed by Monday which is when the
app submission deadline is for the store opening.

You can read up on PangeaVR and see some screenshots here:

http://pangeasoft.net/pano/pangeavr/


This is a good opportunity for you to get some great exposure because I would like to give
you all the chance to have your "portfolios" listed in the app when it gets released.  You'll
get to write up whatever blurb you want to say about yourself, plus you can have a link to
take users directly to your web site.  Then, of course, you can display whatever panoramas
you would like the world to see.

The information on how to setup your portfolios so that PangeaVR can view them is here:

http://pangeasoft.net/pano/pangeavr/portfolios.html


Time is of the essence since I want to get this thing out on Monday if I can debug it in
time.  So, if you have any questions, feel free to email me directly at brian@...


Thanks!

-Brian

[Henri Smeets]

Great News Brian!

Currently I'm viewing my pano's on my iPhone with CubeWorld, a great viewer with lots of customisable options like autopanning, accelerometer movement, thumbnail preview etc. It uses cubefaces of max 1024x1024 pixels, nice and sharp. No online option though.

How does the Pangeaviewer compare to the CubeWorld viewer?

[AYRTON - avi]

Hello Brian
as always, great news
Thanks

best
AYRTON

On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Brian <brian@...> wrote:

> As many of you probably know, Apple is opening the App Store next week
> which allows
> iPhone and iPod Touch owners to download all sorts of cool apps to run on
> their device.
> As you also know, the web browser on the iPhone does not work with any
> Flash,  Java or
> QTVR panorama viewers.
>
> So, I've written "PangeaVR" for the iPhone.  PangeaVR will be FREE, and it
> uses OpenGL to
> display a fullscreen VR pano.  It's really, really cool!  In addition to
> being a viewer, it is also
> a VR Panorama database which gets updated every time the app is launched.
>  The app is
> almost done, and I'm trying very hard to have it completed by Monday which
> is when the
> app submission deadline is for the store opening.
>
> You can read up on PangeaVR and see some screenshots here:
>
> http://pangeasoft.net/pano/pangeavr/
>
>
> This is a good opportunity for you to get some great exposure because I
> would like to give
> you all the chance to have your "portfolios" listed in the app when it gets
> released.  You'll
> get to write up whatever blurb you want to say about yourself, plus you can
> have a link to
> take users directly to your web site.  Then, of course, you can display
> whatever panoramas
> you would like the world to see.
>
> The information on how to setup your portfolios so that PangeaVR can view
> them is here:
>
> http://pangeasoft.net/pano/pangeavr/portfolios.html
>
>
> Time is of the essence since I want to get this thing out on Monday if I
> can debug it in
> time.  So, if you have any questions, feel free to email me directly at
> brian@...
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Brian
>
>
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>
>
>
>

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[Milko K. Amorth]

Hi Brian,

Very generous of you, in deed.

>  Then, of course, you can display whatever panoramas
> you would like the world to see.
>  
Let me just mirror what I have read so far:
Once the portfolio.xml (url) is in your database, even with only one
pano for now, it will be automatically updated as long as the domain
stays the same.
Later, down the road one can add and or change the content?

Cheers, Milko




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ph:604.561.5101
fx:604.909.5125

www.VRCanada.ca
360° Immersive Imaging
Skype: VRdundee

Check out the new release of Lucid Flash Viewer in HD!

[Andrew Crawford-2]

Brian wrote:
> So, I've written "PangeaVR" for the iPhone. PangeaVR will be FREE, and

That's awesome.

Any chance you will be developing a version for Google's Android
platform at some point?

Just curious,

Andrew Crawford

[John Riley-2]

AWESOME!  Brian, I knew you would come through with something amazing  
on this!  I guess I will have to get an iPhone now 8-)  I have a  
couple of questions:

Will it work on an iPod Touch as well?  I would think so....

I see that PangeaVR will have a link to open our site in a browser  
window.  Will there be something or the reverse sort: will there be  
some way for a link on our web page to open a panorama in PangeaVR on  
someone's iPhone?

Any idea of whether Apple will ever let something like this run  
directly in the browser as a plugin?

THANKS!

John

John Riley
johnriley@...
jriley@...




On Jul 3, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Brian wrote:

> As many of you probably know, Apple is opening the App Store next  
> week which allows
> iPhone and iPod Touch owners to download all sorts of cool apps to  
> run on their device.
> As you also know, the web browser on the iPhone does not work with  
> any Flash, Java or
> QTVR panorama viewers.
>
> So, I've written "PangeaVR" for the iPhone. PangeaVR will be FREE,  
> and it uses OpenGL to
> display a fullscreen VR pano. It's really, really cool! In addition  
> to being a viewer, it is also
> a VR Panorama database which gets updated every time the app is  
> launched. The app is
> almost done, and I'm trying very hard to have it completed by  
> Monday which is when the
> app submission deadline is for the store opening.
>
> You can read up on PangeaVR and see some screenshots here:
>
> http://pangeasoft.net/pano/pangeavr/
>
> This is a good opportunity for you to get some great exposure  
> because I would like to give
> you all the chance to have your "portfolios" listed in the app when  
> it gets released. You'll
> get to write up whatever blurb you want to say about yourself, plus  
> you can have a link to
> take users directly to your web site. Then, of course, you can  
> display whatever panoramas
> you would like the world to see.
>
> The information on how to setup your portfolios so that PangeaVR  
> can view them is here:
>
> http://pangeasoft.net/pano/pangeavr/portfolios.html
>
> Time is of the essence since I want to get this thing out on Monday  
> if I can debug it in
> time. So, if you have any questions, feel free to email me directly  
> atbrian@...
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Brian
>
>
>

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[William Donelson]

Brian...

Did I misunderstand?  Are OUR panos to be served from YOUR website?  Is that why the
viewer is free?

Please tell me I'm wrong, and that the Pangea home page is misleading!

Thanks
William

[Keith Martin-2]

Sometime around 3/7/08 (at 23:31 +0000) William Donelson said:

>Brian...
>
>Did I misunderstand? Are OUR panos to be served from YOUR website?

My understanding is that the XML files will be served from there, but
the URLs that you put within those will point to wherever you like -
in other words the equirect JPEG files held on your own server.

k

[Willy Kaemena-2]

Thats l also my understanding !

My  "portfolio"  was set up yesterday, trying to put my most  
impressive  panos together.

In this regard a question: Has somebody an idea how it would be  
possible to check how many  jpgs were read from my webserver??  I have  
at the moment no clue how  I could implement any webcounter there, as  
there is no html file.

Willy Kaemena

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
http://bremen.360cities.net/
http://syria.360cities.net/
http://lisbon.360cities.net/

On Jul 4, 2008, at 9:15, Keith Martin wrote:

> Sometime around 3/7/08 (at 23:31 +0000) William Donelson said:
>
> >Brian...
> >
> >Did I misunderstand? Are OUR panos to be served from YOUR website?
>
> My understanding is that the XML files will be served from there, but
> the URLs that you put within those will point to wherever you like -
> in other words the equirect JPEG files held on your own server.
>
> k
>
>

Willy Kaemena

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
http://bremen.360cities.net/
http://syria.360cities.net/
http://lisbon.360cities.net/









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[AYRTON - avi]

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 5:02 AM, <panokaemena@...> wrote:

> Thats l also my understanding !
>
> My  "portfolio"  was set up yesterday, trying to put my most
> impressive  panos together.


I'm kind of lost in the english text explaining how to prepare the XML  :-(
I'm gonna try to read it once again, to see if I get it better

AYRTON

>
>
> In this regard a question: Has somebody an idea how it would be
> possible to check how many  jpgs were read from my webserver??  I have
> at the moment no clue how  I could implement any webcounter there, as
> there is no html file.
>
> Willy Kaemena
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> http://syria.360cities.net/
> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
>
> On Jul 4, 2008, at 9:15, Keith Martin wrote:
>
> > Sometime around 3/7/08 (at 23:31 +0000) William Donelson said:
> >
> > >Brian...
> > >
> > >Did I misunderstand? Are OUR panos to be served from YOUR website?
> >
> > My understanding is that the XML files will be served from there, but
> > the URLs that you put within those will point to wherever you like -
> > in other words the equirect JPEG files held on your own server.
> >
> > k
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Willy Kaemena
>
> http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
> http://bremen.360cities.net/
> http://syria.360cities.net/
> http://lisbon.360cities.net/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Milko K. Amorth]

Hi Willy,
> Thats l also my understanding !
>
>  
I not sure, that is why i was trying to mirror Brian, but he is not
answering.

Not that i have an iphone yet ( Canada still doesnt sell an official
version yet), but  I understand it differently.

- I prepare the xml and keep it on my server in a dedicated directory.
- I can have as many as 200 <panorama> listed.
- I try it out with the viewer to confirm its working (can't because I
dont have the phone---emulator?) but its a simple structure.
- Once confirmed its working, I send the url of the xml to Brian
- He puts the url into his database, which is auto updated to the apps

Meaning all content is on my own server and Brians database only holds
url, name and descriptions.


I wanted to have that confirmed. Because if it is, all you have to do is
to prepare one xml with at least one pano....and build from there,
regardless the deadline.

Cheers, Milko


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ph:604.561.5101
fx:604.909.5125

www.VRCanada.ca
360° Immersive Imaging
Skype: VRdundee

Check out the new release of Lucid Flash Viewer in HD!

[William Donelson]

Yes, my point exactly.

We are depended on Pangea for production and distribution of our panos.

They tie us to them.

This is NOT "free" as we must pay allegience.

That may be fine for some, thanks Brian.

We will forgoe your kind offer.

William


--- In PanoToolsNG@..., Keith Martin <keith@...> wrote:
>
> Sometime around 3/7/08 (at 23:31 +0000) William Donelson said:
>
> My understanding is that the XML files will be served from there, but
> the URLs that you put within those will point to wherever you like -
> in other words the equirect JPEG files held on your own server.
>
> k
>

[William Donelson]

And if Brian's server goes down?

And if there are changes made to their system?

And if they decide to start advertising?

And if they decide to start charging us?

This is far to risky for us.

William



--- In PanoToolsNG@..., "Milko K. Amorth" <panotools@...> wrote:

>
> I not sure, that is why i was trying to mirror Brian, but he is not
> answering.
>
> Not that i have an iphone yet ( Canada still doesnt sell an official
> version yet), but  I understand it differently.
>
> - I prepare the xml and keep it on my server in a dedicated directory.
> - I can have as many as 200 <panorama> listed.
> - I try it out with the viewer to confirm its working (can't because I
> dont have the phone---emulator?) but its a simple structure.
> - Once confirmed its working, I send the url of the xml to Brian
> - He puts the url into his database, which is auto updated to the apps
>
> Meaning all content is on my own server and Brians database only holds
> url, name and descriptions.
>
>
> I wanted to have that confirmed. Because if it is, all you have to do is
> to prepare one xml with at least one pano....and build from there,
> regardless the deadline.
>
> Cheers, Milko
> --
> Milko K.Amorth
> ph:604.561.5101
> fx:604.909.5125
>

[pangeasoft]

Sorry for the confusion.  No, everything is hosted on *your* site.  You put the XML file and
the panoramas on your site.  The only thing that is on our site is the master list of sites.

So, when PangeaVR launches it downloads the list of known portfolios from our site.  Then
it gets the data for each portfolio from your individual sites.  That way you can update it
any time you want.  You can add or delete panos as you like and you don't need us to
know about it.

Now that's only if you want your stuff public.  If you want to keep it private then you do
the exact same thing, but don't tell us to add it to the master database. You can still
access your portfolio by entering the URL and then adding it to your bookmarks list.  That
way only you have access to it.

-Brian


--- In PanoToolsNG@..., Keith Martin <keith@...> wrote:

>
> Sometime around 3/7/08 (at 23:31 +0000) William Donelson said:
>
> >Brian...
> >
> >Did I misunderstand? Are OUR panos to be served from YOUR website?
>
> My understanding is that the XML files will be served from there, but
> the URLs that you put within those will point to wherever you like -
> in other words the equirect JPEG files held on your own server.
>
> k
>

[Matthew Rogers-2]

Yeah :) The problem is Brian people hardly ever take the time to  
actually read and understand something before posting BS :( I don't  
think there's anything you can ever do to change this though. It's  
just the nature of the internet and lazy people.

Matt

On 4 Jul 2008, at 13:28, Brian wrote:

> Sorry for the confusion. No, everything is hosted on *your* site.  
> You put the XML file and
> the panoramas on your site. The only thing that is on our site is  
> the master list of sites.
>
> So, when PangeaVR launches it downloads the list of known portfolios  
> from our site. Then
> it gets the data for each portfolio from your individual sites. That  
> way you can update it
> any time you want. You can add or delete panos as you like and you  
> don't need us to
> know about it.
>
> Now that's only if you want your stuff public. If you want to keep  
> it private then you do
> the exact same thing, but don't tell us to add it to the master  
> database. You can still
> access your portfolio by entering the URL and then adding it to your  
> bookmarks list. That
> way only you have access to it.
>
> -Brian
>
> --- In PanoToolsNG@..., Keith Martin <keith@...> wrote:
> >
> > Sometime around 3/7/08 (at 23:31 +0000) William Donelson said:
> >
> > >Brian...
> > >
> > >Did I misunderstand? Are OUR panos to be served from YOUR website?
> >
> > My understanding is that the XML files will be served from there,  
> but
> > the URLs that you put within those will point to wherever you like -
> > in other words the equirect JPEG files held on your own server.
> >
> > k
> >
>
>
>

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[Milko K. Amorth]

Hi Brian,

Thanks for the response.
You did validate my understanding.
> Now that's only if you want your stuff public.  If you want to keep it private then you do
> the exact same thing, but don't tell us to add it to the master database.
Meaning just to have a 'public' url for you and your database and a
'VIP'  url for whom ever  i sent or publish the url.

Fine.

I think this is great marketing for your viewer an our VR (including
yours, of course). Thanks for the 'free' opportunity!

Cheers, Milko


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www.VRCanada.ca
360° Immersive Imaging
Skype: VRdundee

Check out the new release of Lucid Flash Viewer in HD!

[Keith Martin-2]

Sometime around 4/7/08 (at 12:28 +0000) Brian said:

>Sorry for the confusion. No, everything is hosted on *your* site.
>You put the XML file and the panoramas on your site. The only thing
>that is on our site is the master list of sites.

>If you want to keep it private then you do the exact same thing, but
>don't tell us to add it to the master database. You can still access
>your portfolio by entering the URL and then adding it to your
>bookmarks list.

Brian, thanks for the clarification!

(William, I presume you were using the 'royal we' in your recent
email? I for one will certainly *not* forgo Brian's kind offer. I
think it is fantastic news and I'll be setting up my XML and
equirects later today.)

k

[Milko K. Amorth]

Hi Matt,
As usual, a very condescending and inproper response to an international
audience.
If you understand everything so lucid and confidently, why don't you
support us?

Cool it man and send me the clasp :-)

Cheers, Milko



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[Matthew Rogers-2]

More frustration from having to deal with dozens of people on a weekly  
basis that are too lazy to do any research or reading for themselves.  
The more information and content you provide the less people read  
hence the more questions you get asked. This phenomenon seems to be  
getting worse and worse by the month. I guarantee you that you can  
read any list or forum almost at any point in time and someone is  
posting a question that they could very easily answer for themselves  
if they could be bothered. But I guess it's far "EASIER" to just get  
some other sucker to do the work for you. Or maybe these people have  
no human interaction or friends and just need an excuse to converse  
with someone.

I actually read an interesting article about the fact the prolific use  
of Facebook by teenagers is now seriously starting to effect their  
ability to have meaningful long-term relationships and friendships. I  
know this is off topic but it goes back to the fact the people are  
starting to rely to much on others to fulfil their personal and  
information needs.

OK, this is an international list but they are dozens of such lists  
and forums relating to panoramic photography in almost every language  
spoken if non-native speakers are having problems. Plus for a fact,  
the people complaining are native English speakers. I'm not sure  
what's so difficult to understand about:

"When you select one of their portfolios, it will then download the  
latest list of panoramas from the photographer's web site, and present  
them to you to view."

note "from the photographer's web site" and

"This is very easy to do. It simply involves filling out an XML file  
with the URL links to each of your JPEG files, putting that XML file  
on your web site, and then letting us know about it."

note "your JPEG files" and "your web site,"

Nowhere does it mention that you have to upload anything to Brian's  
server, why would Brian host everyone else's panos ? So where did the  
idea that you had to upload content to Brian come from ? Again this is  
a very time wasting phenomenon this is becoming far too prolific.

It just takes one person that couldn't be bothered reading the page to  
then post wrong info on the list and Brian is left to answer a barrage  
of questions that his website clearly answers.

Matt

On 4 Jul 2008, at 13:49, Milko K. Amorth wrote:

> Hi Matt,
> As usual, a very condescending and inproper response to an  
> international
> audience.
> If you understand everything so lucid and confidently, why don't you
> support us?
>
> Cool it man and send me the clasp :-)
>
> Cheers, Milko
>
>
>
> --
> Milko K.Amorth
> ph:604.561.5101
> fx:604.909.5125
>
> www.VRCanada.ca
> 360° Immersive Imaging
> Skype: VRdundee
>
> Check out the new release of Lucid Flash Viewer in HD!
>
>
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>
>

[Willy Kaemena-2]

That is my understanding too, Milko !!

therefore  Brian checked already some of my panos in the "portfolio"  
and when time permits, next days I will extend my XML file  with more  
stunning panoramas  for the  coming iPhone world  out there....( I  
dont have an iPhone nor an iPodtouch )

Willy Kaemena

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
http://bremen.360cities.net/
http://syria.360cities.net/
http://lisbon.360cities.net/

On Jul 4, 2008, at 12:18, Milko K. Amorth wrote:

> Hi Willy,
> > Thats l also my understanding !
> >
> >
> I not sure, that is why i was trying to mirror Brian, but he is not
> answering.
>
> Not that i have an iphone yet ( Canada still doesnt sell an official
> version yet), but I understand it differently.
>
> - I prepare the xml and keep it on my server in a dedicated directory.
> - I can have as many as 200 <panorama> listed.
> - I try it out with the viewer to confirm its working (can't because I
> dont have the phone---emulator?) but its a simple structure.
> - Once confirmed its working, I send the url of the xml to Brian
> - He puts the url into his database, which is auto updated to the apps
>
> Meaning all content is on my own server and Brians database only holds
> url, name and descriptions.
>
> I wanted to have that confirmed. Because if it is, all you have to  
> do is
> to prepare one xml with at least one pano....and build from there,
> regardless the deadline.
>
> Cheers, Milko
>
> --
> Milko K.Amorth
> ph:604.561.5101
> fx:604.909.5125
>
> www.VRCanada.ca
> 360° Immersive Imaging
> Skype: VRdundee
>
> Check out the new release of Lucid Flash Viewer in HD!
>
>
>

Willy Kaemena

http://homepage.mac.com/wkaemena/FSPanos/Menu268.html
http://bremen.360cities.net/
http://syria.360cities.net/
http://lisbon.360cities.net/









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