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Re: Free Software Business ModelsHi,
Some clarifications: 2009/5/19 Dave Crossland <dave@...>: > > So I thought I'd ask here about what free software business models > there are, exactly. I understand this might become a long thread, and not too helpful to me, but, I am interested in hearing a variety of business models even if they don't appear to have any direct application to me. > As someone looking to improve free software fonts, I am not looking to maximize profit above all other concerns; I am looking to improve free software fonts, and that could be done commercially or non-commercially, but commercially so I can hire existing trained professionals will be fastest. Almost all other type designers are profit-maximisers and therefore try to obtain the strongest, most restrictive monopoly they can find. The market for that kind of font is totally saturated. For newcomers, a less restrictive model seems to work well at breaking into the existing market, and Jos Buivenga is a excellent example of this. Here is his freeware EULA from http://www.josbuivenga.demon.nl/delicious.html : "Font license information * This font is free for personal and commercial use * The font file/software may be modified to suit design of system requirements, but strictly for your own (personal or commercial) use. You may not sell or distribute it * Embedding (in PDF's, Flash files and programs) is allowed * You may use this font for Font-Face embedding, but only if you put a link to www.exljbris.nl on your page and/or put this notice /* A font by Jos Buivenga (exljbris) -> www.exljbris.nl */ in your CSS file as near as possible to the piece of code that declares the Font-Face embedding of this font. * This font may not be distributed or sold -not online nor on any media- without my permission * This font is and remains (even when modified) the intellecual property of Jos Buivenga * Exljbris (Jos Buivenga) is not liable for any damage resulting from the use of this font" He then sells fully proprietary fonts at http://www.myfonts.com/browse/foundry/exljbris/ and was one of MyFonts.com's most popular vendors last year, thanks to this freeware-loss-leader business model. Since I'm committed to free software fonts, I think it would be counterproductive to run a font business with free software fonts upselling proprietary ones in this way. Cheers, Dave |
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Re: Free Software Business Modelsbegin Dave Crossland quotation of Tue, May 19, 2009 at 03:55:42PM +0100:
> As someone looking to improve free software fonts, there are two > routes open to me: Find a way to get people who don't demand > proprietary-font-developer wages to publish free software fonts, or > find a way to pay font developers who currently work in a proprietary > software business model with a free software business model. The first business model in this area is likely to be (1) hire people to make quick-and-dirty "good enough for web" clones of proprietary fonts (2) put up an "Are your Web Fonts Licensed?" page to crawl people's sites for proprietary fonts (3) offer to sell them the clones. > So I'm very interested to hear the business models that work > for free software, so I can try to roll them out for fonts. Besides just charging for services, it seems that there are two basic business models for free software: Commoditize the Complement and Sell Options on Future Support. Commoditize the Complement http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/StrategyLetterV.html The idea is that you release the software to help you get some other business, like Mozilla releasing a free browser to get ad revenue from Google, or Cypress Semiconductor releasing Linux driver code to sell USB chips. The software doesn't have to be Free free--Adobe does the same strategy with Acrobat Reader--but you might as well make the source available to signal quality and possibly attract an outside contribution. Sell Options on Future Support http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2005/07/21/software_pricing.html Customers are willing to pay for the option to get support in the future, even if they might not use it. This is how Red Hat can survive selling software subscriptions that aren't a complement to anything else it sells. There are many other reasons to release free software, but those seem to be to be the two basic ones that count as business models. There are other ways to connect Free projects to markets, but they aren't in use as software business models yet. http://zgp.org/~dmarti/software/development-market/ -- Don Marti +1 510-332-1587 mobile http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ dmarti@... See you at OpenSource World: August 11-13, 2009 in San Francisco |
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Re: Free Software Business ModelsHi Don!
2009/5/19 Don Marti <dmarti@...>: > begin Dave Crossland quotation of Tue, May 19, 2009 at 03:55:42PM +0100: > >> As someone looking to improve free software fonts, there are two >> routes open to me: Find a way to get people who don't demand >> proprietary-font-developer wages to publish free software fonts, or >> find a way to pay font developers who currently work in a proprietary >> software business model with a free software business model. > > The first business model in this area is likely to be > (1) hire people to make quick-and-dirty "good enough > for web" clones of proprietary fonts Generally professional type designers, while not so wedded to proprietary monopolising that they won't work on libre fonts at all (there are some exceptions...) are not so mercenary that they don't care what they work is as long as they are getting paid: They have a principled objection to cloning others' designs. While we may or may not agree to their principle of divine creators' rights, we can see that if they clone proprietary fonts without permission from the proprietors, their economic ability to win proprietary job contracts will diminish (AKA, ruin their professional reputation.) There are also legal problems with this: the USA has no copyright on type designs, just 14 year design patents, but, the UK has the normal artistic work copyright on type designs as do other jurisdictions I imagine. I need to research this in more detail because clearly there needs to be free versions of "classic" designs (eg, Gill Sans, from 1926) but its cousin Johnston was "licensed" recently - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnston_%28typeface%29 > Commoditize the Complement > The idea is that you release the software to help > you get some other business, This is my immediate business plan: Modifiable fonts' complement is the knowledge-transfer of how to modify them. (its also the tools and the textbooks, but they ought to be free too, right :-) So I'm going to move out to Kerala where living expenses are cheap and work on a curriculum, and then travel the globe teaching commercial 2-5 day font-making workshops to anyone I can market them to. I have a friend who teaches Ericksonian Hypnosis in this way and he earns plenty (although he also sells proprietary textbook materials...) > Sell Options on Future Support Fonts tend not to need much support. However, like software, "a font is never done" so perhaps options on future development can work. My understanding of Red Hat's business is that they do indeed offer support, but, they also do more development of free software (as such, ie "upstream," rather than dumping free KLOC over the wall) than anyone else, and their business model can be viewed as such: Find 2 people (or "legal persons") who want a feature added to a free software program and would be willing to pay 100% of the cost for an exclusive implementation, and offer them both a 30% discount for a non-exclusive implementation. 70% + 70% = 140% of cost. Find 10 people? Offer them an 80% discount for 200% of cost. Then convert them to a subscription for regular development (as Red Hat do today) which benefits them as they have predictable development costs and benefits you because you have a predictable revenue stream to pay salaries with. I believe I might be able to transfer this to fonts, but I'm not quite sure. Do you know any examples of much smaller "boot strapping" companies working in these ways? |
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Re: Free Software Business Models>> As someone looking to improve free software fonts,
> > I am not looking to maximize profit above all other concerns; > > Since I'm committed to free software fonts, I think it would be > counterproductive to run a font business with free software fonts > upselling proprietary ones in this way. Welcome! Since you are interested in unrelated models... For the sake of argument, any going concern that makes money, enriches free software developers and spreads free software, is an FSB in my book. I'll only comment on my experiences with FSB models that create and sell exclusively free software: 1) Widget Frosting++ Create and maintain free software that fills a gap in the GNU domain, and package it with hardware and support services. Creating your own free software is an unnecessary complication of basic widget frosting. This model may work better with some capital up front, but generally a great business model that bootstrappers with tech expertise can handle. 2) Training Hire experts in the use of a Free Software to sell that knowledge to others. Not so much of an FSB. Only works well if you keep fixed costs to almost zero and have unique, high-quality, high-demand products. After those two, I decided to sell shovels to the miners for a while. Less frequently mentioned is that most people who write free software consider it a profit center because they become recognized experts, which increases their income potential. All this feels a bid pedantic since you seem to feel there is an opportunity with great potential in the font industry, the mechanics of which you understand, that is yet to be capitalized on. -- -Rich http://rbodo.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/complete Skype: richbodo irc: irc.freenode.net, icltlfatppl Yahoo IM: rsb_mv |
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Re: Free Software Business Models2009/5/19 Rich Bodo <richbodo@...>:
> > 1) Widget Frosting++ > > Create and maintain free software that fills a gap in the GNU domain, > and package it with hardware and support services. As http://www.digium.com did, right? > 2) Training > Less frequently mentioned is that most people who write free software > consider it a profit center because they become recognized experts, > which increases their income potential. My biggest problem isn't fully proprietary font developers, but freeware loss leaders like Jos B; freeware fonts get just as much cheap publicity/exposure as libre fonts, I think. > All this feels a bid pedantic since you seem to feel there is an > opportunity with great potential in the font industry, the mechanics > of which you understand, that is yet to be capitalized on. I don't think I'll understand free software business until I'm running a successful one :-) |
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Free Software Business ModelsDave Crossland writes:
> As someone looking to improve free software fonts, there are two > routes open to me: Find a way to get people who don't demand > proprietary-font-developer wages to publish free software fonts, or I heard an interesting anecdote recently about why all free fonts for Japanese suck: the people who have artistic talent don't want their fonts used on porn sites. This is one case where what are often called "author's moral rights" really bind on free software, I think. > find a way to pay font developers who currently work in a proprietary > software business model with a free software business model. Hm. One unusual factor is, why would a customer be willing to pay for a font in the first place? For the same reason that movie stars are willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars for designer clothing -- so they can get a unique look. In other words, such customers get positive value from high prices, because they are a barrier to entry to the *customers'* rivals. So you can sell the font under a free license because in general the customer is not going to want to give the font away. What you can do, then is sell the font "cheaply" with a free license (which the customer will value in case of defects, or a need to adjust paramters for scaling that was not originally envisioned, etc), and then charge them for exclusivity. Of course in that case you'll want to have the contract say something like "you get a free license, but *I* won't sell it to anybody else for 2/3/5 years". Eventually you want it to be not just free, but available to the public, as well. |
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Re: Free Software Business Models>> 1) Widget Frosting++
> As http://www.digium.com did, right? Very similar. > I don't think I'll understand free software business until I'm running > a successful one :-) Could be. Experience running any business will help. -- -Rich http://rbodo.blogspot.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/complete Skype: richbodo irc: irc.freenode.net, icltlfatppl Yahoo IM: rsb_mv |
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Re: Free Software Business ModelsHi Stephen!
2009/5/19 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@...>: > Dave Crossland writes: > > > As someone looking to improve free software fonts, there are two > > routes open to me: Find a way to get people who don't demand > > proprietary-font-developer wages to publish free software fonts, or > > I heard an interesting anecdote recently about why all free fonts for > Japanese suck: the people who have artistic talent don't want their > fonts used on porn sites. This is one case where what are often > called "author's moral rights" really bind on free software, I think. Hah. I know the OSI was involved in rubber-stamping the license for http://ossipedia.ipa.go.jp/ipafont/ recently, which are said to be high quality Japanese fonts. I know nothing about CJK writing systems though so cannot comment on this. > > find a way to pay font developers who currently work in a proprietary > > software business model with a free software business model. > > Hm. One unusual factor is, why would a customer be willing to pay for > a font in the first place? ... exclusivity Yes, custom type design is the main breadwinner of most font development companies, and software freedom at a lower price than normal (always available for a price, but never using freedom itself as a marketing angle) may be an effective way to crack that part of the market. However, as you say - > Eventually you want it to be not just free, but available to > the public, as well. - and I expect that offering such bespoke services is much easier after a brand becomes known in the market place for published works, and that revenues generated this way can be reinvested into growing revenues for published works too. Thanks! -- Regards, Dave |
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Re: Free Software Business ModelsDave Crossland writes:
> Hah. I know the OSI was involved in rubber-stamping the license for > http://ossipedia.ipa.go.jp/ipafont/ recently, which are said to be > high quality Japanese fonts. The reason this came up on the LUG list is that a local OSS advocate needs TeX fonts for use in presentations at his place of employment, and the IPA fonts were specifically rejected as ugly. I consider them technically high quality (they scale well and don't produce artifacts at any (reasonable) transformation), though. |
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Re: Free Software Business ModelsHi Dave,
* Dave Crossland <dave@...> [2009-05-19 15:55:42 +0100]: > So I thought I'd ask here about what free software business models > there are, exactly. Perhaps you will also be interested in this article: "What makes a Free Software company?" http://blogs.fsfe.org/greve/?p=260 Best wishes, Matthias -- Deputy German Coordinator, Fellowship Coordinator Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) [] (http://fsfe.org) Join the Fellowship of FSFE! [][][] (http://fsfe.org/join) Your donation powers our work! || (http://fsfeurope.org/donate) |
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Re: Free Software Business Modelsbegin Dave Crossland quotation of Tue, May 19, 2009 at 05:29:47PM +0100:
> Fonts tend not to need much support. However, like software, "a font > is never done" so perhaps options on future development can work. New startup will be offering hosted fonts: http://www.kottke.org/09/05/typekit-real-fonts-for-the-web There might be room for a service that offers a drop-in Free replacement with the same interface -- if the new company becomes the "Twitter API" of fonts, someone could become the identi.ca of FaaS. -- Don Marti +1 510-332-1587 mobile http://zgp.org/~dmarti/ dmarti@... See you at OpenSource World: August 11-13, 2009 in San Francisco |
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Re: Free Software Business Models2009/5/31 Don Marti <dmarti@...>:
> begin Dave Crossland quotation of Tue, May 19, 2009 at 05:29:47PM +0100: > >> Fonts tend not to need much support. However, like software, "a font >> is never done" so perhaps options on future development can work. > > New startup will be offering hosted fonts: > http://www.kottke.org/09/05/typekit-real-fonts-for-the-web Yes, thanks for mentioning it and I'm tracking it already :-) > There might be room for a service that offers a > drop-in Free replacement with the same interface -- > if the new company becomes the "Twitter API" of fonts, > someone could become the identi.ca of FaaS. openfontlibrary.org is positioned for this :-) |
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