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by Dax Solomon Umaming-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello,

I just sent my request to Prentice Hall re:Free Books For Approved LoCo
Teams[1]. Jono Bacon has been great in giving us this opportunity to get
our hands on a hard copy of their books.

HOWEVER, my dilemma is figuring out how to share this to members of our
team. Thoughts?

[1] http://www.jonobacon.org/2009/07/29/free-books-for-approved-loco-teams/
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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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Have you asked Jono on possible options? a Photocopy version is okay with me heheh they should have some ideas on how you can share them

YM

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Dax Solomon Umaming <knightlust@...> wrote:
Hello,

I just sent my request to Prentice Hall re:Free Books For Approved LoCo
Teams[1]. Jono Bacon has been great in giving us this opportunity to get
our hands on a hard copy of their books.

HOWEVER, my dilemma is figuring out how to share this to members of our
team. Thoughts?

[1] http://www.jonobacon.org/=)2009/07/29/free-books-for-approved-loco-teams/
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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

by Dax Solomon Umaming-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Yolynne Medina wrote:
> Have you asked Jono on possible options? a Photocopy version is okay
> with me heheh they should have some ideas on how you can share them

My concern mostly revolves upon the level of trust - that the book will
indeed circulate among members who need it.

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

by Yolynne Medina :: Rate this Message:

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I'm sure they thought of a possible scheme on how the loco team heads can share the book. Otherwise.. better for them to sell it on a discounted price.


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Dax Solomon Umaming <knightlust@...> wrote:
Yolynne Medina wrote:
> Have you asked Jono on possible options? a Photocopy version is okay
> with me heheh they should have some ideas on how you can share them

My concern mostly revolves upon the level of trust - that the book will
indeed circulate among members who need it.

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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Distribute it to the other approved members and have them manage the
distribution in their respective localities would be more appropriate
rather than selling something you received for free in the first
place.

Jerome

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Yolynne Medina<yolynne@...> wrote:

> I'm sure they thought of a possible scheme on how the loco team heads can
> share the book. Otherwise.. better for them to sell it on a discounted
> price.
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:43 AM, Dax Solomon Umaming
> <knightlust@...> wrote:
>>
>> Yolynne Medina wrote:
>> > Have you asked Jono on possible options? a Photocopy version is okay
>> > with me heheh they should have some ideas on how you can share them
>>
>> My concern mostly revolves upon the level of trust - that the book will
>> indeed circulate among members who need it.
>>
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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:43 AM, Dax Solomon
Umaming<knightlust@...> wrote:
> Yolynne Medina wrote:
>> Have you asked Jono on possible options? a Photocopy version is okay
>> with me heheh they should have some ideas on how you can share them
>
> My concern mostly revolves upon the level of trust - that the book will
> indeed circulate among members who need it.

I just learned that its just two books anyway. Might as well have it
in stock for now and raffle it in an upcoming event (SFD for example).
I don't think that breaks the agreement.


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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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Dax Solomon Umaming wrote:
Yolynne Medina wrote:
  
Have you asked Jono on possible options? a Photocopy version is okay
with me heheh they should have some ideas on how you can share them
    

My concern mostly revolves upon the level of trust - that the book will
indeed circulate among members who need it.

  
I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station, I'll just hand it over the fence :p

By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

by Yolynne Medina :: Rate this Message:

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diba isa lang ang copy per loco team? are they ok with the photocopy? hehe ebooks na lang..

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:27 AM, JC John Sese Cuneta <jcjohn@...> wrote:
Dax Solomon Umaming wrote:
Yolynne Medina wrote:
  
Have you asked Jono on possible options? a Photocopy version is okay
with me heheh they should have some ideas on how you can share them
    
My concern mostly revolves upon the level of trust - that the book will
indeed circulate among members who need it.

  
I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station, I'll just hand it over the fence :p

By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Yolynne Medina<yolynne@...> wrote:
> diba isa lang ang copy per loco team? are they ok with the photocopy? hehe
> ebooks na lang..

I guess this also indicates that we ought to EB more often, huh? ;)

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

by Dax Solomon Umaming-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Yolynne Medina wrote:
> diba isa lang ang copy per loco team? are they ok with the photocopy?
> hehe ebooks na lang..

Yeah, 1 hard-copy per loco team.
No, it's not ok to photocopy it. Copyright laws still prevents us.
Although I'm sure there are exceptions for educational use (read:
teachers and students only and part of their course - hey, you're
qualified Yolynne!).

>     I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of
>     Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the
>     Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station,
>     I'll just hand it over the fence :p

Thanks, will mail it to you once I receive the copy. I just need to
worry about the shippping charge since Prentice Hall will not cover it.
hehe.

>     By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^

I think there's a paid pdf version, you can back up a copy, but not
allowed to pass it on to someone - only the hard copy.

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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Dax Solomon Umaming wrote:
    I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of
    Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the
    Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station,
    I'll just hand it over the fence :p
    

Thanks, will mail it to you once I receive the copy. I just need to
worry about the shippping charge since Prentice Hall will not cover it.
hehe.

  
    By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^
    

I think there's a paid pdf version, you can back up a copy, but not
allowed to pass it on to someone - only the hard copy.

  
Hi Dax,

    Hmm, if we can not photocopy it since it's "All Rights Reserved", what will happen then is I'll give the book to interested individuals then they have to return it back?

    Hehe, this is one of the moment when we can wish they used Creative Commons License :p

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

by Yolynne Medina :: Rate this Message:

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didn't quite understood this part.. how are those in the academe exempted?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Dax Solomon Umaming <knightlust@...> wrote:
Yolynne Medina wrote:
> diba isa lang ang copy per loco team? are they ok with the photocopy?
> hehe ebooks na lang..

Yeah, 1 hard-copy per loco team.
No, it's not ok to photocopy it. Copyright laws still prevents us.
Although I'm sure there are exceptions for educational use (read:
teachers and students only and part of their course - hey, you're
qualified Yolynne!).

>     I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of
>     Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the
>     Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station,
>     I'll just hand it over the fence :p

Thanks, will mail it to you once I receive the copy. I just need to
worry about the shippping charge since Prentice Hall will not cover it.
hehe.

>     By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^

I think there's a paid pdf version, you can back up a copy, but not
allowed to pass it on to someone - only the hard copy.

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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Hi Yolynne,

AFAIK, they are not exempted. Only that IP is not strictly enforced in this part of the world.


On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Yolynne Medina <yolynne@...> wrote:
didn't quite understood this part.. how are those in the academe exempted?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Dax Solomon Umaming <knightlust@...> wrote:
Yolynne Medina wrote:
> diba isa lang ang copy per loco team? are they ok with the photocopy?
> hehe ebooks na lang..

Yeah, 1 hard-copy per loco team.
No, it's not ok to photocopy it. Copyright laws still prevents us.
Although I'm sure there are exceptions for educational use (read:
teachers and students only and part of their course - hey, you're
qualified Yolynne!).

>     I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of
>     Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the
>     Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station,
>     I'll just hand it over the fence :p

Thanks, will mail it to you once I receive the copy. I just need to
worry about the shippping charge since Prentice Hall will not cover it.
hehe.

>     By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^

I think there's a paid pdf version, you can back up a copy, but not
allowed to pass it on to someone - only the hard copy.

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

by Yolynne Medina :: Rate this Message:

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hahha oo nga.. find it very weird the need to discuss proprietary  like ideologies in this mailing list and all because of an ubuntu book..

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Robert C. Reyes <bertusmagnus@...> wrote:
Hi Yolynne,

AFAIK, they are not exempted. Only that IP is not strictly enforced in this part of the world.



On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Yolynne Medina <yolynne@...> wrote:
didn't quite understood this part.. how are those in the academe exempted?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Dax Solomon Umaming <knightlust@...> wrote:
Yolynne Medina wrote:
> diba isa lang ang copy per loco team? are they ok with the photocopy?
> hehe ebooks na lang..

Yeah, 1 hard-copy per loco team.
No, it's not ok to photocopy it. Copyright laws still prevents us.
Although I'm sure there are exceptions for educational use (read:
teachers and students only and part of their course - hey, you're
qualified Yolynne!).

>     I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of
>     Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the
>     Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station,
>     I'll just hand it over the fence :p

Thanks, will mail it to you once I receive the copy. I just need to
worry about the shippping charge since Prentice Hall will not cover it.
hehe.

>     By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^

I think there's a paid pdf version, you can back up a copy, but not
allowed to pass it on to someone - only the hard copy.

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Yolynne Medina <yolynne@...> wrote:
didn't quite understood this part.. how are those in the academe exempted?

Fair use makes this so.

RA 8293 Sec. 185 states that:

"The fair use of a copyrighted work for criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching including multiple copies for classroom use, scholarship, research, and similar purposes is not an infringement of copyright. Decompilation, which is understood here to be the reproduction of the code and translation of the forms of the computer program to achieve the inter-operability of an independently created computer program with other programs may also constitute fair use. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is fair use, the factors to be considered shall include:
(a) The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for non-profit educational purposes;
(b) The nature of the copyrighted work;
(c) The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(d) The effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work."


 


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Dax Solomon Umaming <knightlust@...> wrote:
Yolynne Medina wrote:
> diba isa lang ang copy per loco team? are they ok with the photocopy?
> hehe ebooks na lang..

Yeah, 1 hard-copy per loco team.
No, it's not ok to photocopy it. Copyright laws still prevents us.
Although I'm sure there are exceptions for educational use (read:
teachers and students only and part of their course - hey, you're
qualified Yolynne!).

>     I can help with the distribution, most of the time I'm at SM Mall of
>     Asia weekly.  Or those who will get it from me can meet me at the
>     Magallanes/Mantrade MRT station - no need to get out of the station,
>     I'll just hand it over the fence :p

Thanks, will mail it to you once I receive the copy. I just need to
worry about the shippping charge since Prentice Hall will not cover it.
hehe.

>     By any chance, are there eBook or PDF versions?  I haven't seen it ^^

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allowed to pass it on to someone - only the hard copy.

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Re: Free Ubuntu Books

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Heherson Pagcaliwagan wrote:
>     didn't quite understood this part.. how are those in the academe
>     exempted?
>
> Fair use makes this so.

Ahh yes, I that's the term I'm looking for.

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