FreeBSD (How vague can I get? ;) )

[Allen-37]

Hi list,

First, I want to say thank you. To anyone who's ever used FreeBSD,
you've either loved it outright, or been in awe. How is it possible that
something so complex as an OS can be done without cash to everyone doing
it? Now think about this; How can this OS be so much better than one
money can buy?

I thought about this for a minute before sending this message, and
figured why not? Those Credit Card commercials you see on TV always say
"Something something, 5 dollars, something something 50 dollars, and
something something 300 dollars, getting to do this; Priceless!"

Well, let's try this with FreeBSD:

A PC from 10 years ago your neighbor tossed in the trash because Vista
won't even install on it let alone run slower than someone on a bicycle
racing someone in a McLaren F1 because they were using  Windows 98 on it
and XP crawls on the thing:

0 Dollars

A new bottom of the line PC with non onboard video card, but only 16 MBs
of Video memory, and two monitors used:

50 dollars

An Internet Connection you need anyway these days, about 150 dollars a
year...

An Epiphany that Microsoft's newest OS is going to cost almost 500
dollars and you can't afford it or the crap you'll be getting on your
machine running it and finding FreeBSD, downloading it for free and
getting a couple burnable CDs from a friend... PRICELESS!

After almost 10 years, from the day I walked into Best Buy here in
Michigan, and saw on the shelf Mandrake Linux 7.1 and "The FreeBSD
PowerPak" with FreeBSD 4.0 + 6 CD toolkit, + "The Complete FreeBSD" 3.0
book for less than a hundred dollars, I've always been a fan of FreeBSD
and how much power I got for so little.

Some friends of mine make fun of me for paying for free software saying
it's stupid to buy something and spend money on something I can get
online, and I continue to buy FreeBSD stuff to help support whenever I
can. My last order was over 500 dollars getting FreeBSD on CD-ROM, and a
new version of "The Complete FreeBSD" book, The FreeBSD Handbook, and
then the newer ones Vol1 and Vol2, and stickers for my Laptop and
Desktops, and of course a FreeBSD mouse pad and label pin, and I'm glad
I did.

I also bought "20 Years of Berkeley Unix" on DVD, with MKM as the
speaker. I can say proudly that my Wife thinks he's amazing and wants to
go see him talk one day.
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[Saifi Khan-6]

On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Allen wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> First, I want to say thank you. To anyone who's ever used FreeBSD, you've
> either loved it outright, or been in awe. How is it possible that something so
> complex as an OS can be done without cash to everyone doing it? Now think
> about this; How can this OS be so much better than one money can buy?
>

FreeBSD and *BSD needs some loving and your mail is a wonderful step in that direction.
With the support of the community, anything is possible.


> I thought about this for a minute before sending this message, and figured why
> not? Those Credit Card commercials you see on TV always say "Something
> something, 5 dollars, something something 50 dollars, and something something
> 300 dollars, getting to do this; Priceless!"
>

iirc, that sounds like the Standard chartered credit card ad, here in India.

> Well, let's try this with FreeBSD:
>
> A PC from 10 years ago your neighbor tossed in the trash because Vista won't
> even install on it let alone run slower than someone on a bicycle racing
> someone in a McLaren F1 because they were using  Windows 98 on it and XP
> crawls on the thing:
>
> 0 Dollars
>
> A new bottom of the line PC with non onboard video card, but only 16 MBs of
> Video memory, and two monitors used:
>
> 50 dollars
>
> An Internet Connection you need anyway these days, about 150 dollars a year...
>
> An Epiphany that Microsoft's newest OS is going to cost almost 500 dollars and
> you can't afford it or the crap you'll be getting on your machine running it
> and finding FreeBSD, downloading it for free and getting a couple burnable CDs
> from a friend... PRICELESS!
>
> After almost 10 years, from the day I walked into Best Buy here in Michigan,
> and saw on the shelf Mandrake Linux 7.1 and "The FreeBSD PowerPak" with
> FreeBSD 4.0 + 6 CD toolkit, + "The Complete FreeBSD" 3.0 book for less than a
> hundred dollars, I've always been a fan of FreeBSD and how much power I got
> for so little.
>
> Some friends of mine make fun of me for paying for free software saying it's
> stupid to buy something and spend money on something I can get online, and I
> continue to buy FreeBSD stuff to help support whenever I can. My last order
> was over 500 dollars getting FreeBSD on CD-ROM, and a new version of "The
> Complete FreeBSD" book, The FreeBSD Handbook, and then the newer ones Vol1 and
> Vol2, and stickers for my Laptop and Desktops, and of course a FreeBSD mouse
> pad and label pin, and I'm glad I did.
>
> I also bought "20 Years of Berkeley Unix" on DVD, with MKM as the speaker. I
> can say proudly that my Wife thinks he's amazing and wants to go see him talk
> one day.
>

Wow, unbelievable !
That reads like a teenager's adoration for a rock star ;-)
i'd go for Def Leppard.

How do you see the *BSD community evolving today ?
Is there something that can be done better that makes *BSD capture more mindshare ?

i'm a newbie and thank you for your time in advance.


thanks
Saifi.

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[Dag-Erling Smørgrav]

Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@...> writes:
> Allen <GedankeZauberer@...> writes:
> > I thought about this for a minute before sending this message, and
> > figured why not? Those Credit Card commercials you see on TV always
> > say "Something something, 5 dollars, something something 50 dollars,
> > and something something 300 dollars, getting to do this; Priceless!"
> iirc, that sounds like the Standard chartered credit card ad, here in
> India.

It's a series of MasterCard ads.

"Some things in life are free.  For everything else, there's MasterCard."

DES
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[Kevin Kinsey]

Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

> Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@...> writes:
>> Allen <GedankeZauberer@...> writes:
>>> I thought about this for a minute before sending this message, and
>>> figured why not? Those Credit Card commercials you see on TV always
>>> say "Something something, 5 dollars, something something 50 dollars,
>>> and something something 300 dollars, getting to do this; Priceless!"
>> iirc, that sounds like the Standard chartered credit card ad, here in
>> India.
>
> It's a series of MasterCard ads.
>
> "Some things in life are free.  For everything else, there's MasterCard."
>
> DES

Hmm, makes me wonder.  Would we get sued for this?

"Doing a couple things with computers requires {proprietary software}.
For the rest, there's FreeBSD!!!"

Kevin Kinsey

P.S.  "Paddle faster, honey, I'm trolling in shallower water now!"


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Real computer scientists don't comment their code.  The identifiers are
so long they can't afford the disk space.

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[Allen-37]

Kevin Kinsey wrote:

> Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
>> Saifi Khan <saifi.khan@...> writes:
>>> Allen <GedankeZauberer@...> writes:
>>>> I thought about this for a minute before sending this message, and
>>>> figured why not? Those Credit Card commercials you see on TV always
>>>> say "Something something, 5 dollars, something something 50 dollars,
>>>> and something something 300 dollars, getting to do this; Priceless!"
>>> iirc, that sounds like the Standard chartered credit card ad, here in
>>> India.
>>
>> It's a series of MasterCard ads.
>>
>> "Some things in life are free.  For everything else, there's MasterCard."
>>
>> DES
>
> Hmm, makes me wonder.  Would we get sued for this?
>
> "Doing a couple things with computers requires {proprietary software}.
> For the rest, there's FreeBSD!!!"
>
> Kevin Kinsey
>
> P.S.  "Paddle faster, honey, I'm trolling in shallower water now!"

You can't get sued for it ;) The US has a law here that states a parody
of something isn't a rip off. which I think was one of the better laws
made. That's how Dennis Leary got away with the "Peanuts and Charlie
Brown" thing he did without permission since it was a parody.

Besides, Visa probably runs BSD on their servers anyway lol.

Someone said something or other about me and FreeBSD as a rockstar and
said Def Leopard. I don't agree, I think FreeBSD would be more suited
with Cannibal Corpse or Slayer, it's way fast ;)
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[Dag-Erling Smørgrav]

Allen <GedankeZauberer@...> writes:
> You can't get sued for it ;) The US has a law here that states a
> parody of something isn't a rip off.

There is no such law, only legal practice, and the US is only a small
part of the world.

> Besides, Visa probably runs BSD on their servers anyway lol.

VISA != MasterCard

DES
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[Allen-37]

Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> Allen <GedankeZauberer@...> writes:
>> You can't get sued for it ;) The US has a law here that states a
>> parody of something isn't a rip off.
>
> There is no such law, only legal practice, and the US is only a small
> part of the world.

Yes, but BSD was started in California, and making a parody shouldn't be
a problem. I'm pretty sure commercials seen here show up in other parts
of the world, I'm not one of those people who thinks there is only one
law all over the World. I live right near another country and go there
often.

>> Besides, Visa probably runs BSD on their servers anyway lol.
>
> VISA != MasterCard


Yea sorry about that it was a typo. I was kind of exhausted when I typed
that as it probably shows in how I typed, I hadn't slept well. I'm
pretty sure they use BSD too ;)

> DES

-Allen

PS; Your initials are neat, DES, like the encryption, that's awesome heh  :)
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[Dag-Erling Smørgrav]

Allen <GedankeZauberer@...> writes:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav <des@...> wrote:
> > Allen <GedankeZauberer@...> writes:
> > > You can't get sued for it ;) The US has a law here that states a
> > > parody of something isn't a rip off.
> > There is no such law, only legal practice, and the US is only a
> > small part of the world.
> Yes, but BSD was started in California, and making a parody shouldn't
> be a problem.

If only life were so simple.

DES
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